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CamelFilters:
i like political music although the damn lyrics must be masked under some good metaphore. i mean i can't stand obvious statements like the ones morrisey put out in his last album.

SuperSUGA:

--- Quote from: zekterellium ---khar, the lord of the rings was written during the second world war, gandalf was a metaphor for moses and sauron was a metaphor for hitlet. the hobbits represented the working class and the elves represented the upper class, abandoning middle earth (europe) the first chance that they got.
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Apologies in advance if you were being sarcastic, or you meant it was political on a subconcious level. I remember reading somewhere (sorry for not having a source here) that Tokien went out of his way to write the Lord of the Rings without any allegory whatsoever. Unfortunately for him too many people saw the book as being filled with allegory, which annoyed him somewhat, as he was all about creating a myth.

Just as something that seems innocent can be allegory, something that appears as an allegory can be perfectly innocent.

Johnny C:
A large chunk of the book was completed before the commencement of World War II; if anything, parts of the book (the mechanization of warfare, the destruction of the environment to service the army's needs) would be based on Tolkien's observations during his service with the British Army in World War I, and even then they would have to be subconsciously based on those experiences.

Titan:
Though not a fan of Tolkien's work by any means (especially the last in the trilogy), I'll back up Super here.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/5014/interview.html

3/4 down this interview he states absolutely and completely, "I dislike allegory whenever I smell it." in response to such ideas.

I'm with Khar on this one; if you are going to take Pack's approach you might as well blame teacups for genocide.

maxusy3k:
Going way back towards the start of the thread... I don't mind a slight undertone in my music, be it political or whatever, something that, once you figure out the lyrics, let's you go 'huh' and understand that the artist is talking about bigger things. System are, I feel, a good example of this.

That being said, the new single is a little too much... kind of goes out of its way to make its statement, which makes it come off pretty badly.

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