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a pack of wolves:
There's more to politics than lyrical content though. The way in which the music is treated as a product, attitudes to gender and sexuality, methods of performance, and has been pointed out the political environment the artist comes from... all these add political dimensions. I can't think of a piece of art which is apolitical. I can think of very few things which are myself.
KharBevNor:
To be blunt, that's a wanky socialist student view of politics that I don't really ascribe to. Politics and personal philosophy are seperate but related things. There is no political statement being made in a My Dying Bride song, for example. Just 'fuck, I'm depressed'. The band don't wear black clothes because they're showing their support with the waffen SS or mourning the death of socialism. Rhapsody don't sing about the rain of a thousand flames as a metaphor for the US bombing of Afghanistan and Viking Skull don't set themselves on fire during concerts in sympathy for buddhist monks.
normz:
Hey Khar chill out a little .... I can sort of see both sides of the fence I mean the lyrics may not be directly related to politics as such; in fact as i said before i think most songs are more bound to human experiences (don't think i can find a broader mroe ambiguous sounding term for it lol) but that every person does put some form of bias into their artwork. So although not all songs are Political, they still have SOME political influences on them in the form of the artists bias. And don't call social students wanky dammit ........ *sulks in the corner* You'll be sorry when i finish my Law and Public Policy degree and take over the world :-P
KharBevNor:
I wasn't, just that viewpoint. Hell, I'm an art student. I can agree with your point pretty much though.
The thing is, anything more is over-analysis: I'm big on the idea that one should try and see something as what the author intended it to be, rather than making up your own meaning to it.
a pack of wolves:
I can see where you're coming from Khar with the first part, although I'd argue that that's a very narrow view of what can be meant by the term 'political'. And given the examples you use you're still talking about what could be called overt politics. My Dying Bride aren't making an overt political statement with their clothes or lyrics, no. But their music is sold, and sold in a certain manner. That's political. You might call it a wanky left-wing student view, and I hold my hand up to at least those last two terms, but there it is.
So you ascribe to the view that the author imparts meaning in the role of the 'author-god' then?
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