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Nurture or Nature, both, neither?

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jeremy:
Interesting topic.

I grew up in a very musical family. Both my parents were in fairly successful local rock'n'roll bands in the 60's/70's, and my father has made a career in the major music industry for the past 25 years. So being interested and involved in music has always seemed like a very natural thing to me.

Apart from some 60's records and a few silly new wave albums that were given to me after my mother passed away when I was 14, I can't recall having ever dug too deeply into either of my parents' record collections, or finding much of anything interesting if I did. By 14, I had developed seemingly opposing tastes for 60's rock (thanks, mom!) and punk rock. I bought a copy of the first Clash LP on the same day as I bought a copy of Jimi Hendrix's "Band of Gypsies" LP. I don't know what happened to the Hendrix LP, but the Clash LP is still with me today.

But I think there are some additional cultural aspects that are at play, as well. For one, I grew up speaking two languages. That's important not only because I was exposed to a lot of music that most, uh, "normal" white people (hahaha) probably think is just a bunch of castaneta-driven gibberish, but because it's also helped to sorta relax my ears and brain so that it doesn't seem strange to me to listen to singing in languages other than English. I've noticed that a lot of people I play music around say things like "it's good, but what are they saying?", or "somebody needs to record this song in English!", implying that this music WOULD be good, if it were only recorded in English. This whole approach towards music (or anything, really) strikes me as bizzare, and I think that's a result of my upbringing.

Incidentally, I mostly listen to African and Slavic music. I don't speak any African language, and my knowledge of Russian is rudimentary at best (and generally doesn't help me actually enjoy the music, since I know just enough to sing along with most things, but in many cases not enough to explain what they're about when people ask). Hmmm.

So...nature or nuture? Well, I can't say anyone I grew up with or am currently accquainted with (including my family) has ever asked to borrow any CD from me. So I don't know. If this were a poll, my vote would be for neither, but only in my case.

Oh, and since I like those charts, too, here:

Cream > Clash > Grazhdanskaya Oborona > Hirut Beqele

It seems like I'm missing about a million steps there, but then I remember that it doesn't have to make sense in a linear way. Hahaha.

normz:
I think it's a mixture of all. I mean I still like alot of the stuff my mum played for me as a kid (I have a weird affinity for showtunes, Jazz and 80' rock and pop) but I also got influences from my teen angst stage when i went all 'omg i totally relate to this music' (which was something like Korn or slipknot) but I also had classical training in Piano and voice so I sort of like a bit of the good ole classical works....... and now through my own discovering my taste leans more towards Rock/Punk/Indie ...... really any music with awesome drumming/ cool basslines/ lyrics that are just plain weird or really meaningful. So yeah I'm a bit eclectic combining all the best of nature and nuture in my musical tastes

JLM:
It's hard to gauge something like that.  A lot of what I like is electronic based, and doesn't really have any precedence in any of my parents' musical tastes.  I think you eventually start gravitating towards certain patterns and rhythms, and at some point simply embrace multiple styles of music. Sometimes you never go back, though.  I used to be quite into metal years and years ago but eventually I just stopped listening to it altogether because what I was hearing wasn't really appealing to me.

as far as band patterns go it's a bit hard, being a child of the 80's, but it went something like this:

Culture Club>Twisted Sister>U2>Slayer>Soundgarden>Sonic Youth>Ministry>Orbital>Photek>what I currently listen to

salada:

--- Quote from: Kelamin ---I think my taste in metal developed something like this

Prodigy -> Korn -> Rammstein -> Fear Factory

Kind of an odd start but it works for me
--- End quote ---


i more or less started on the prodigy. but instead of going all metal-ish, i got a copy of their first album after a while and turned into a junglehead.

other stuff's changed a bit -- indie stuff, hip-hop, jazz, i go through phases -- but jungle/drum and bass has been my constant musical, er, thing.

(is it just me, or does everyone who likes drum and bass just like it instantly (or conversely: you don't like it now, you didnt like it then)? kinda the wrong forum to be asking this, but i'm interested all the same)

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: jeremy ---Incidentally, I mostly listen to African and Slavic music. I don't speak any African language, and my knowledge of Russian is rudimentary at best (and generally doesn't help me actually enjoy the music, since I know just enough to sing along with most things, but in many cases not enough to explain what they're about when people ask). Hmmm.

--- End quote ---


Given that some of my favourite genres are folk metal, black metal and industrial, I listen to HUGE amounts of stuff in unknown languages, everything from Irish gaelic to Ukrainian to French to Finnish. I love it, tbh. Industrial music actually helped boost my German vocabulary when I did the language in school, and I've developed a reasonable rudimentary Swedish vocabulary just listening to Finntroll (though mostly I can only say things like "My sword thirsts for christian blood") But then, one of my first musical loves was Rammstein, and I even went through a brief J-Rock phase back when I was a hardcore Otaku (though it was in a large part anime music videos that pointed me down the right path). Such things have never really been an issue for me.

I rememer a topic some time back where we did this progression thing in a slightly different form, but taking it from the first time I started listening to music (when I was about 4) it would be:

The Beatles > Johnny Cash > Bob Dylan > Meatloaf > Pink Floyd > Rammstein > Metallica (only the black album at first...then I heard  Master Of fuckin' Puppets) > Cradle of Filth > Edge of Sanity > Immortal > Finntroll > Burzum > Skyclad and everything else. That's the main progression, slightly odd I know. Plus, never really having a phase where I listened to anything totally dire, I still like pretty much all these bands: my 'nu-metal phase' was brief, and I never really liked the stuff much anyway.

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