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Apple on Intel
Mnementh:
--- Quote from: nickyandthefuture ---EDIT: Really though. The Red Sox won the world series, Deap Throat was revealed, Bush got re-elected, and Apple just switched to Intel. Who fucking broke the universe?
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Seriously!
-sam:
--- Quote from: nickyandthefuture ---I'm kind of mixed on the whole thing. I think that if Intel will make better chips, that's cool - I don't really care about the logo on a piece of my computer that I'll never look at. I just hope the transition goes well and I don't get fucked over for having a PPC computer. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on throughout the Mac community since we've been convincing ourselves for years that PowerPC is a better system, but if the new Macs run well, I doubt that anyone will care for very long.
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QFT. IBM and Moto both have been dicking Apple for years. I still think that the PPC line is a more elegant solution than x86, but if PPC isn't going to be able to get Apple where they need to go then go with the solution that will work. I've heard a lot of predictions about the PPC roadmap that have never seen the light of day (dual-core G4's, Altivec-equipped G3s, 3ghz G5s), and over on the x86 side they just keep rolling along -- shipping dual-core chips for one. PPC is stagnanting, sorta. And the future of desktop/laptop market seems to be with x86. Doesn't mean I won't miss G5/Altivec though :(
What also bugs me is having to put up with all the Intel fanboys who will undoubtably start talking shit because of this decision.
--- Quote from: nickyandthefuture ---EDIT: Really though. The Red Sox won the world series, Deap Throat was revealed, Bush got re-elected, and Apple just switched to Intel. Who fucking broke the universe?
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That's going on my whiteboard at work tomorrow.
-sam
Addius:
The x86 architecture is also stagnating so I'm a but unsure that Apples decision was that good but we'll have to wait and see..
As for the world series, how can you call it the world series when only people from not even a fifth of the world competes? wth?
-sam:
--- Quote from: Addius ---The x86 architecture is also stagnating so I'm a but unsure that Apples decision was that good but we'll have to wait and see..
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It's progressing faster than the PPC750, there are dual-core procs aren't a pipedream for on...
--- Quote from: Addius ---As for the world series, how can you call it the world series when only people from not even a fifth of the world competes? wth?
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a) MLB is an international league, b) Teams are composed of the best players from around the world, c) if i hear one more smart-arse prattling about this i'll be very cross
-sam
mosfet:
I 've been hearing the rumors for a while, and I've been really hoping that by x86, they were meaning AMD.
I'd love to see a dual-proc dual-core Opteron PowerMac.
The whole Intel thing I'm really sad about. Intel dual core chips are such a technical jerry-rig, not to mention the P4's issues. Apple really should have gone for the AMD line or possibly a modified Pentium-M with SSE2 (which I guess could still happen).
Theres some interesting reads out there on this. Inside Mac Games has thoughts and comments from game developers.
I saw mention of running OSX on a Dell, and Darwin has been available (sort of) for x86 for a while, but i kind of doubt they'll ship a "PC" version of OSX for retail. I think selling OSX for PCs would likely have a huge impact on Mac System sales.
sigh. In my dream world we would have G5 or Opteron PowerMac's with SSE2 and OSX with Direct X, and Pentium-M iMacs, iBooks, and Powerbooks. The day I see a P4 Apple machine will be the day Apple loses "Quality" points for me.
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