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MP3 Players: iPod / iriver / Zen

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blindsuperhero:
Well, they look a bit minging for a start, and the general consensus of the people I'd talked to was that iRiver were the shit, basically. But anyway, apart from the capacity, there's nowt wrong with it.

KharBevNor:
And, what is actually the problem with a WMA?

Seriously, unless you're going to plug BeyerDynamics into your mp3 player device, there is fuck all you are going to hear between 128kpbs and 172kpbs (cd standard). Tbh, bitching about stuff like that is still yet more audiophiliac bollocks. Hell, I rip all my CD's at 96 kpbs. Guess what? They still sound fine. Also, if your computer doesn't have USB 2.0, then I fart in your general direction. All your other criticisms are, basically, drivel.

If you're buying an mp3 player for aesthetics then you are, essentially, a tool. The zen comes in a black leather carry-case anyway, so you don't even have to look at it.

blindsuperhero:
Fun fact: On my iRiver, I can hear MP3 distortion on songs recorded at 192kbps. CDs are not 172kbps, they are 689kbps. And as for the BeyerDynamics comment, iRiver H10s actually come with Sennheiser headphones, which are equally high-class. I used to rip CDs at 96kbps, and to be honest, they sound shit. Back when I was a damn fool about these things I used to burn mix CDs from MP3s, and they just sound absolutely lame compared to the original.

Oh, and I take aesthetics into consideration on most things I buy. It is by no means the only thing, but it is always a concern, and I think few people could honestly say they don't consider it.

KharBevNor:
16-bit PCM coding at a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz was 172 kbps on an mp3 last time I looked, but ok. mp3 quality doesn't really map to cd's in any real way anyway.

I've no idea what this mp3 distortion you're talking about is. The slight hollowness on lower bit-rate recordings? Only thing I've really noticed in mp3 copy CD's made with 128+s is an unwillingness to play at a loud volume.

Signum_Tenebrae:
I generally prefer my MP3s at 192..  128 is okay, 96 I can start to hear distortion..

It's not that big of a deal since a lot of stuff I listen to (and Khar probably as well) is made to sound like shit on purpose.

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