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The (International) Noise Conspiracy

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blindsuperhero:
I get the feeling they played support the last time I saw Bad Religion. As far as I can remember, everyone hated them.

Azathoth:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---Refused had the originality...
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Have you listened to Nation of Ulysses?  Every Dennis Lyxzen band is pretty much has it's origin in a facet of Nation of Ulysses' sound.  Check em out -  Brendan Canty's (Fugazi, Rites of Spring) brother is in the band.

mp3: http://www.southern.com/southern/band/ULYSS/17971_audio.html

I do like Refused better.  T(I)NC never had a record as solid as the shape of punk to come.

T(I)NC are on a major label now. For someone who prints anti-capitalist manifestos on his liner notes that seems kinda hypocritical.  Not only are Nation of Ulysses on Dischord, an independent among independent record labels, but they at least tend to be tongue in cheek their 20+ page CD booklets lambasting capitalism and consumerism (yeah, Lyxzen got that from them too).

a pack of wolves:
That would be James Canty who's now in French Toast, he was their drummer. He was in the Make-Up too, who T(I)NC are massively indebted to, I'd say far more so to them than Nation of Ulysses.

I'm not denying Refused took inspiration from the Nation (and no bad thing, they were an amazing band), but no art's totally original. I still say Refused pushed things in a new direction with The Shape of Punk To Come. And although T(I)NC are on a major, The Shape... was first released on the then independent Swedish label Burning Heart. What happened afterwards I don't feel detracts from it.

ebullientsoul:

--- Quote from: boeuf ---*Is currently rocking out hard to them*

I know I make posts like this a lot, but I feel this band deserves to be discussed.

Better than Refused?
Vice Versa?
YOU tell ME!

Me, I love them so so so so much. I've been listening to them nonstop for about a week now.
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In my mind, Refused blows (I)NC out of the water. But hey, that's just my headspace.

To me, the real question is, Lost Patrol or (I)NC?

zekterellium:
refused > international noise conspiracy

lost patrol > international noise conspiracy

refused > lost patrol

or so i see it.

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