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Ozymandias:
^ Everything but a USB cable and big enough memory card.

Inanimate Object:

--- Quote from: Ozymandias ---^ Everything but a USB cable and big enough memory card.
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True, but consider this:

Many people already have a USB cable. I had one from my digital camera. Any standard Mini-USB to Large USB cable will work.

For the import price on a Play-Yan (link above) you can get a 1GB memory stick. That's enough to hold two or three full length movies. If you get a Play-Yan, you still have to buy an SD card. If you don't have that much to spend, there are cheaper alternatives too. 256MB sticks run about $30, and I've seen 512s for $50. It also depends on how much video you want to store. I can store about 10 minutes of good quality video on the 32MB stick that came with the PSP.

Symp:

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--- Quote from: Inanimate Object ---Note that NDS doesn't play audio or video at all.
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Absolute BS
1. You can buy some cartoons in cart format for the gba, which will also play on the DS
2. http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=6&products_id=6239&

Also the DS can play the entire gba library, so that should factor in to a buying decision, especially if you dont already have a gba
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1. I forgot about the cartoons they have for GBA, but those are mostly Cartoon Network kids stuff. Great if that's your thing, but otherwise pretty unappealing.

2. The Play-Yan is not available in the USA yet. You have to import it. It's quite expensive to do so, and all the software is in Japanese. You also have to buy an SD card before you can do anything. PSP comes with everything you need (except a USB cable) out of the box.
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The Play-Yan is not really that expensive, only $79.90 and probably a little bit more for the overseas shipping so........

NDS + Play-yan + Large SD card = Less than the price of a PSP with a large duo card

Inanimate Object:

--- Quote from: Symp ---
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--- Quote from: Inanimate Object ---Note that NDS doesn't play audio or video at all.
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Absolute BS
1. You can buy some cartoons in cart format for the gba, which will also play on the DS
2. http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=6&products_id=6239&

Also the DS can play the entire gba library, so that should factor in to a buying decision, especially if you dont already have a gba
--- End quote ---


1. I forgot about the cartoons they have for GBA, but those are mostly Cartoon Network kids stuff. Great if that's your thing, but otherwise pretty unappealing.

2. The Play-Yan is not available in the USA yet. You have to import it. It's quite expensive to do so, and all the software is in Japanese. You also have to buy an SD card before you can do anything. PSP comes with everything you need (except a USB cable) out of the box.
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The Play-Yan is not really that expensive, only $79.90 and probably a little bit more for the overseas shipping so........

NDS + Play-yan + Large SD card = Less than the price of a PSP with a large duo card
--- End quote ---


Price comparison (I rounded everything to the nearest dollar):

Nintendo DS:
NDS: $150
Play-Yan: $80
Cheapest 512MB SD Card listed on dealram.com: $33 link
Total price: $263

Sony PSP:
PSP Value pack: $250
Cheapest Memory Stick Duo on dealram.com: $61 link
Total price: $311

Also, if you subtract the price of the 32MB stick you get with the system you take $25 off. Total: $286 link Then take off anothe $25 for the headphones that come with the PSP. Final total: $261 link

The reason I took off the stick and headphones was that NDS doesn't come with any of that stuff. This is a direct comparison of the two individual systems, and what they need to play videos.

Ozymandias:
You can deduct all you want, but you're still forced to buy them. Might as well deduct $35 from the DS price while you're at it since you get a free game.

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