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Fungicon:
Man, elitism totally hits groups of friends with a vengeance. I guess music is one of the simplest ways to hook into one's emotions, which like you guys are saying means you have to tread carefully.

What always blows me away is how much I want to hate a band because of other people who like them. It's so stupid. But at the same time I've been to enough concerts now to know the crowd at a show can totally make or break the experience for me, and that feeling seeps into my opinion of the band.[/url]

Kai:
Man, what's with all the Phish hate? Earlier in the thread and in that article. Bleh.

Fungicon:
Easy target, I guess. Plus maybe some market-correction for those six months several years back when they seemed to be everywhere, even on network TV.

sp2:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves ---You're being very subjective when you say that experimentalism makes a band better.
--- End quote ---


No.  Experimentalism is what made Blonde Redhead good.  When they took that away and made stereotypical indie rock, they pretty much sold out and lacked that piece of them that made them interesting (i.e the avant stuff).  It's like if, say, the Weakerthans decided to start playing stereotypical death metal.  Maybe they'd play decent death metal, I don't know, but they have something going right now which is well done, and to sell it out for something more stereotypical is stupid.

Changing your music to fit a trend is selling out, and that's exactly what BR did.  While a lot of indie kids might like Misery is a Butterfly, I really could care less.  It's a sellout album, and selling out is not my idea of good music.

yipjumpmusic:
So you know they made that album in attempts to copy a style?  They write that in their band journal or what?  Just because something fits in more with a certain music type, does not mean they did it just to do so unless there is some proof you forgot to mention.  Also even if they purposely attempted to get a certain sound, just because it fits into an existing genre does not make them sell outs.  Hell, almost every band existing would be sellouts unless they mixed genres that aren't mixed usually or if a band somehow created a new genre.  Still, show me this proof besides pointing at the music and saying it sounds like indie music.  Maybe they did not feel like doing experimental stuff that time around and not because it was not profittable but maybe just because...you cite pitchfork liking the new CD like they knew exactly how pitchfork would react but this is all after the fact of the music they made so is not much for proof of anything.  Anyways, doesn't matter, you've made up your mind and even with intellegent debate we'll get this thread locked soon enough I bet if we keep on this issue though I must say elitism is still within this debate.

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