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KharBevNor:
Hmm, last time I checked I think it was 'Raise £150,600,000 for charity and make Africa a global issue'.

But yeah, I get your point. I personally eradicate third world debt and save the whales. Every tuesday.

Kid Amnesiac:
Did anyone bother to even give a shit before Bob Geldoff started Live Aid? How many people do you honestly believe gave contributions for this cause before they put big names and shitty music behind it? It's the typical way to go about doing things in this world. No one knows or cares about anything until a celebrity gets involved. And that's about as ignorant as you can be.

SpacemanSpiff:
To some extent, I agree with the people who said that Live 8 was just a way for celebrities to get even more positive media coverage.

Live 8 wanted to raise awareness - good idea. But eridicating the debt is a stupid idea. It won't help Africa, and interestingly, that's also what the African press said. That might also be part of the reason why the Live 8 show in Johannesburg didn't attract as many people.
If we wanted to help third world countries, especially Africa, we would stop subsidising our farm industry and abolish all tariffs on farm products immediately.
As this would result in bankruptcy for lots of local farmers however (who, from the economical point of view on a global scale, have no right to exist in their current form in the first place), this is something Live 8 does not demand. Could be because it's less popular, even if it makes a hell of a lot more sense and would yield better results.

Inlander:

--- Quote from: Kid Amnesiac ---Did anyone bother to even give a shit before Bob Geldoff started Live Aid? How many people do you honestly believe gave contributions for this cause before they put big names and shitty music behind it?
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This is precisely the kind of attitude that gives me the shits (and that I was trying to send up in my above post).  Who honestly gives a fuck why people donate money, as long as it's donated?

SpacemanSpiff: good points you make there.

Kid Amnesiac:

--- Quote from: Inlander ---
This is precisely the kind of attitude that gives me the shits (and that I was trying to send up in my above post).  Who honestly gives a fuck why people donate money, as long as it's donated?
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What I'm saying is give something because you want to, not because Bono tells you. Addition, who the fuck are we to make light of the horrors of Africa to the American people to get money out of them? I think there are far too many problems here in our own country for us to be shoving our noses into other countries' affairs. Sure the severity is not the same, but I say we should deal with our own shit first before we run to the aid of a hopeless cause.

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