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Objectivity in Music
Merkava:
--- Quote from: trolley ---I think it's definately objective. I think Pink Floyd are are consistantly dull and unremarkable, and yet dads the world over were dribbling with anticiapation at them playing yesterday. It all comes down to your environment and what you're adapted to liking.
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Gryff:
This is a philosophical idea which basically boils down to "what is art?", which is an impossible question to answer definitively.
Having said that, it's interesting to look at some different perspectives on the subject. It can be argued that there are standards of taste that are common to everyone but are more developed in some people, through combinations of natural ability and training (in this case listening to a lot of music). Consider that the aforementioned Cheeky Girls are widely regarded as bad, while The Beatles are widely regarded as good. Are these standards of taste or merely widespread opinion?
The opposing viewpoint might say that absolutely everything is subjective, and that there is equal validity in stating that The Cheeky Girls are the best band in history as there is in saying that of the Beatles.
Initially you might think "well, there's no way that The Cheeky Girls could be considered better than the Beatles, so there must be at least some standards of taste" but surely you can just as easily argue that "beauty is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder".
As with most philosophical debate there is no right answer.
ASturge:
That's correct on many levels....
But come one. The Cheeky Girls?
Jesus. Have a little dignity.
Gryff:
That's the thing, isn't it?
I'm sure that everyone on this board believes that The Cheeky Girls could not be considered good in any way, shape or form. However, does that mean that there is no validity at all to someone's personal preference to the Cheeky Girls?
Maybe it does. So would it therefore be feasibly possible to figure out the essential properties of good music?
Maybe it doesn't. Who's to say that our appreciation (or lack thereof) of The Cheeky Girls is a universal truth and is unaffected by cultural, societal and personal factors?
ASturge:
Damnit!
We're talking about the Cheeky Girls here!
Not a band which many people have differing opinions on.
I can except other peoples opinions on Pink FLoyd. Some like em, some dont.
But the cheeky girls!?
bah, humbug!
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