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My Aim Is True:
Ok, I'm not quite up to the task of making an emo FAQ (maybe I'll give ti a shot later though), but I always get sort of bummed when seems like people (whether they love it OR hate it) think emo means Something Corporate and Dashboard Confessional, or Taking Back Sunday, or whatever other craptastic band can't find anything to sing about besides a broken heart.

Declarations of SPIN and Alternative Press aside, none of that shit is emo. (Also, From Autumn To Ashes and Thursday are not screamo)

On a board like this, I'd almost take it for granted that people are at least passingly familiar with the old Dischord school of emo, but does anyone have a clue about any emo bands between 1986 and whenever these sad sack bands got popular? Does anyone realize that real emo bands are usually more like hardcore bands, and that hardcore is not all that angsty metal screaming break stuff shit?


GOOD EMO-

Rites Of Spring
Embrace
Turning Point
Hot Water Music
Paint it Black
Trial By Fire
Four Walls Falling
Strike Anywhere
Cap'n Jazz
Waxwing
early Piebald
Dag Nasty
Nation Of Ulysses
Drive Like Jehu
Texas is The Reason
Planes Mistaken For Stars
Unbroken
Twelve Hour Turn
Small Brown Bike
Sparkmarker
Endpoint
Jawbreaker

TrueNeutral:
I do believe From Autumn To Ashes is Emocore. Of course, I could be wrong. I am still not clear on the whole emo mess.

My Aim Is True:
FATA is metalcore.

if a band wears girl pants and eyeliner, and there are no girls in the band, then there is a 99.99% chance they are not an emo band, hardcore band, or very good.

My Aim Is True:
oh yeah, I should note that I'm not trying to say I'm more old school or smarter about emo, or anything like that, just that I have learned more. Back in 1999 when almost all I listened to was ska, punk, and new wave, I HATED what I thought emo was. I couldn't stand bands like The Get Up Kids and Saves The Day (who both have their roots in emo, but have moved away from it). And it only got worse as all the pop-punk bands turned sad and started calling themselves emo.

Se7en:
Embrace are emo? I think this is stretching genre definitions to the point of meaninglessness, embrace have absolutely nothing in common with any of the bands that actaully identify themselves as "emo" or some variation of it.
If you try and expand the definition of emo to "music with emotions in it" then everything qualifies as emo.

Then again, i have always always catergorised dashboard confessional et all as "wuss-rock".

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