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GTA: AO
nexus:
[double post -- sorry I'm on an unstable internet connection]
nexus:
Well, first of all Take2 and Rockstar out and lied and said that the sex mini-game was added by the 3rd party mod. That was bad for the whole industry and I think they should be penalized for it somehow (although that won't happen).
Second, the differences between the 'M' and 'Ao' ratings are incredibly minor if you read the ESRB's description of them. It could be argued that San Andreas (as well as all the GTA3 iterations and many other games) deserve an Adults Only rating regardless of the existence of the 'Hot Coffee' mod. I would add that the only reason they weren't given that rating was because very very few retailers sell 'Ao' games.
This leads to the possibility that the industry isn't properly labelling games in order to sell more product. The ESRB and the gaming industry should never have put themselves in that position because now politicians and sleazy lawyers and 'activists' have a foothold to once again decry gaming as the end-of-all-humanity.
So now the current release of San Andreas is labelled 'Ao' and becomes a collectors item. Retailers who do not sell 'Ao' games will pull it from shelves and lose millions. A "new" version of San Andreas sans-sex mini-game will be released very soon and will retain the original Mature rating. And Take2 once again makes a buttload of money, this time by putting the whole industry in the middle of a wonderful new political attack.
Good job guys.
PS- $50 bucks says the 'Hot Coffee' content will be stripped from the original version and offered as a mod for the "cleaned-up" version
Gryff:
A lot of good points here. What's the age restriction on AO games? In NZ all the GTA games have been R18, which I think is a pretty accurate rating for a game that encourages the indisciminate killing of innocent people and police officers. I enjoy playing GTA:SA but if I had kids I wouldn't want them playing it, not because of anything sexual, but because of the violence!
It was stupid of Rockstar to deny involvement in the Hot Coffee feature, but by the sounds of it the Hot Coffee content is no worse than what you can see in other games, and it takes a very dedicated effort to unlock it.
Just another excuse to blame the downfall of civilisation on a freakin' game.
IronOxide:
In America the difference between M and AO is nothing, really.
M means 17+
AO means 18+
salada:
australia doesn't even have an R, X, or AO classification for games. i think the OFLC (office of film and literature classification, who also do games) max out video games at MA (you have to be over the age of 15 to purchase it). so anything higher than that can't get a commercial release in australia.
gamers, developers, and anticensorship people have been pushing for one for a while now. the fact that we don't have one is pretty fucked.
since this hot coffee thing hit the news here, a bunch of retailers have pulled GTA:SA from their shelves, even though there's been no word from the OFLC. hopefully, this'll create some sort of watershed for a R rating in games here (apparently GTA's this season's best selling videogame here).
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