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The recent popularity of good bands.

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maxusy3k:
I still just don't get the whole thing with 'before they were popular' or whatever anyway. I mean, I've always been a mainstream kinda guy, I'll hear bands through the radio or music television, buy their album and then, if I like them enough, backtrack through their discography. I didn't like them before they were popular but I don't understand how that can put me in a position where my opinion is disregarded...

The Limp Bizkit thing was a perfect example... the earlier albums were way better than the recent ones, but I heard about them when they released Chocolate Starfish, same as most other people did. It pisses me off that the moment I say 'yeah, I only heard about them when "Rollin'" came out' then the hardcore peeps feel my opinion is irrelevant.

On the flipside... I love it when bands I've liked start recieving the recognition they deserve. It gives a whole world of new conversation... somebody says they like whatever band and, even though they've only just got into them when they got popular, it at least gives you the room to say 'X album is better, also you might like Y band'. Whether they liked them four years ago or not, they still like them now, and isn't that what matters?

Okay, so there probably isn't a point to that... just my opinion.

MilkmanDan:

--- Quote from: Kai ---I just saw that post. Seriously, not everybody knows exactly what defines an independent label, asshole. I didn't even know exactly. And where the hell are you supposed to tell which labels are affiliated with the RIAA?
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www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp

The RIAA isn't some secret cult with handshakes and shit. They do tell you which labels are affiliated. Though the idea of labels secretly being members of the RIAA amuses me greatly. They'd sell a bunch of records to hipster kids and then announce 'Unlucky guys, we're cunts too! You just bought RIAA endorsed record. Bye Bye, indie cred'. That would rule. But no.

Anyway, I'll tell you why bands becoming popular pisses me off. It's because I'm incredibly lazy bastard, and I like being able to judge people based on their music taste. When a band is really small, you can assume that you'll probobly get on pretty well with any other fans you meet, because you're clearly into similer sorts of things. When a band gets a bigger fan base, you can't tell so much about people just from the fact they listen to the band. So you actually have to talk to them and shit. Hassle.

Lazy, that's all. Other than, it's all sweet.

Kai:
See, the thing is, before this, I couldn't care less which labels are a part of major labels or not. What the fuck does it matter to me? I don't know.

-sam:

--- Quote from: sp2 ---
If you're going to be working with recording, then you should learn the recording equipment.  It's as easy as that.  You shouldn't hire some fucktwit to get all involved in your music.  Know your equipment and how to use it properly (and how to abuse it properly if you're playing that sort of music) and do it all yourself.  Keep someone who has no personal investment in your band besides his cut of the profits out of the picture.

There are labels out there that don't pressure you to have a producer.  Go to one of them.
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So what you're saying is that George Martin was holding the Beatles back?  

-sam

Inlander:
Yeah, I don't know where all this stuff about producers came from.  A good producer is like a good editor: he or she will colaborate with the artist, offering suggestions and objective opinions about where the music could be changed and how the recording could be improved to best bring out what the musicians are trying to communicate.  Sometimes you need that outside voice who's a little more removed from the music.  This whole cult of the artist thing that's built up over the last century is sometimes really annoying: producers, editors, whoever - they're not some evil entity trying to fundamentally alter the artist's work, often they're people who care passionately about the art and want to help make what it's trying to communicate as clear as possible.

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