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[KharBevNor]

wow that's uh

that's pretty metal

Indeed it is.

I personally have never seen the appeal of DEP. I saw them live, and it was really boring. There was nothing in the music to grab you and make you even want to tap your foot along. Just a load of random crap. To be frank, in my opinion it's a better measure of technical skill to be able to right a tight fucking song than play your drop-K tuned guitar upside down on fire in 6/-17 time on fire whilst jumping around like a very scene frog. People keep telling me they're uber-gods of music. Screw that shit, I know lots of reasonably average musicians who can play their stuff. Tony Iommi or Ritche Blackmore could chop 'em into pieces and feed them to Roger Daltrey's trout.

[Rizzo]

- Most Relaxing:
Lullaby or Close To Me

Sir, I object to this statement on the grounds of Lullaby's being about a freaky-ass spider demon nightmare, something that I personally find uniquely unrelaxing. Off Disintegration, perhaps Plainsong or Pictures of You might be more relaxing? I don't know.

Still, thanks for the overview thing. I have a few of the Cure's albums and I'm wondering which of the earlier ones are good? Also, I'd read bad stuff about Wild Mood Swings but maybe I'll check it out now. The used CD store seems to always have it.

I guess lyrically it's not a very relaxing song but musically it's uber chilled. High is also very chilled.

If you haven't already got it then get Japanese Whispers and Pornography. Those are my two favourites. Then get the re-release of wild mood swings. Then get the two bests ofs, 77-87 and 87-97. Then get the rest. Don't bother with Three Imaginary Boys or The Top, they're both fucking terrible. TIB is slightly less terrible but not much. The most recent album is pretty awful compared to their older work but it's alright I guess.
Yeah, I'm a ridiculous fanboy.

Would someone be able to do Crüxshadows and Type O Negative for me?

Also Khar, which 3 Inches of Blood song is about robots?

[KharBevNor]

Wykydtron.

"Programmed to crush
Programmed to destroy
Its brainwaves only wired for death

It's wired to kill
All on the Earth
Nuclear bound - you'll fear his name
Hey it's The Wykydtron
It's The Wykydtron
Hey it's the Wykydtron
Whoa-oh!"

Great live sing-along.

Band Name: Type O Negative

Genre: Heavy goth metal/thrash (early)

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9

Best Album: October Rust

Songs:
- Best All Around: Black #1 (full version)
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': Xero Tolerance
- Most Relaxing: Christian Woman
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Black #1 gets some video play
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Black #1 again, or maybe Love You to Death

Bands Like This Band: They're a straigh combo of goth rock and heavy metal, which is somewhat unusual in goth metal. A natural comparison would probably be Danzig. Older 69 Eyes stuff also has the same sort of humour a lot of the time.

Coolest Thing About This Band: Their wicked sense of humour and parody/self-parody. Best typified in, well, Black #1, which is one of my favourite songs of all time:

"YEAH YOU WANNA GO OUT 'CAUSE IT'S RAINING AND BLOWING,
BUT YOU CAN'T GO OUT CAUSE YOUR ROOTS ARE SHOWING,
DIE 'EM BLACK! OH DIE 'EM BLACK!
BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK NUMBER ONE!
BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK NUMBER ONE!"

[Rizzo]

Have you heard "I know you're fucking someone else"? Damn that's a funny song.
I also love the fact that the issue of Playgirl with Peter Steele in it was the worst selling ever.
Cheers.

[KharBevNor]

I don't see why. Pete's a beast! I love the way he plays that double bass slung over his shoulders in the Black #1 video.

And yeah I have. Technically, it's only a part of a song though (Unsuccessfully Coping With The Natural Beauty Of Infidelity [c. I Know You're Fucking Someone Else] to be precise). Most of the songs on 'Slow, Deep And Hard' are cut up like that.

Actually, I'll tell you the COOLEST thing about Type O Negative, and that's Nosferatu: The First Vampire, which is a version of the classic silent film with it's soundtrack replaced with Type O Negative songs. It is awesome.

[Kai]

Khar, can you do Inkubus Sukkubus and Celtic Frost for me? Assuming that you listen to Celtic Frost.

[KharBevNor]

I don't listen to enough Celtic Frost to do it properly, but I can confidently say you need to go out and buy To Mega Therion and Morbid Tales. Like, now.

As for the other:

Band Name: Inkubus Sukkubus (also Incubus Succubus and, briefly, Children of the Moon)

Genre: Pagan rock

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9/10

Best Album: Vampyre Erotica

Songs:
- Best All Around:
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': hard to say. They're a very atmospheric group. Either earlier, rawer stuff like Wytches* or Song to Pan*, or latter day rockers like Vampyre Erotica or Vampire Punk Rockers From Hell (They're a thematic one-trick horse)
- Most Relaxing: Wytches Chant '98
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Er. Fuck knows.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Wytches*

Bands Like This Band: Self proclaimed heavy influence from Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy, but there's wierd, celtic rhythms and exotic touches to their music that draws them apart from the old guard of goth rock. Another rather individual group. Killing Miranda, possibly, come close, and also London After Midnight, but mainly through shared influences.

Coolest Thing About This Band: They really excel at the brutally mutilated cover version like few others. For me, there's also the religious aspect, but for others, they're brilliantly cheesy goth rock, who know how to play all the cliches perfectly in the most-self knowing way imaginable.


*Various versions of these exist. Get the ones from the album 'Wytches', unless you want to hear the cheesiest keyboard production in history.

[La Creme]

DO CELTIC FROST!

Also, Type O Negative would kick ass if Peter Steele didn't exist. Sorry, I just hate bad low-voiced mumble-gargling. Not my bag.

[Rizzo]

Also, Type O Negative would kick ass if Peter Steele didn't exist. Sorry, I just hate bad low-voiced mumble-gargling. Not my bag.

Well low-voiced mumble-gargling hates you!!! Peter Steele rocks and I hate you for having different opinions to me!

I rather enjoy Wytches, it was before IS started repeating their drum loops. They've pretty much had the same one for... 5 albums I think?
And listening to IS for any prolonged period of time leaves me with a desire to go out and kill pagans with an axe. Seriously, so pretentious in large doses.

Can someone do The Misfits for me? I only heard them properly for the first time a few days ago.

[yggdrasil]

I guess lyrically it's not a very relaxing song but musically it's uber chilled. High is also very chilled.

Another Cure fanboy here. I'd say Closedown or Untitled are the most chilled songs off Disintegration. Of other songs, the first that springs to mind is A 1000 Hours, also Ueya Sound and loads of others I imagine.

Best Cure albums to get are 17 Seconds, Faith and Pornography in my book. Then Disintegration.

[Rizzo]

I hate you for having different opinions to me!

[yggdrasil]

Hehehe.

I must say I am very surprised that you recommended Wild Mood Swings. I like that album less than The Top...

Edit: Also, I thought Mew and the Glass-Handed Kites was totally fucking amazing.

[Rizzo]

I dunno, I just dig WMS. There are so many good albums so it's hard to choose just one. Actually, in retrospect I'd say Mixed Up is my favourite. Not the best, just my fav.

[yggdrasil]

I don't have Mixed Up, but I really like the version of The Caterpillar on it.

I didn't read the discussion on previous pages of this thread so sorry if you've mentioned this before, but what would your choices of best/definitive songs be?

[thesonglessbird]

Band Name: Cathedral

Genre: Doom metal (think Black Sabbath)

Your Rating Of Them (1-10):  10 (they're my favouritest band ever)

Best Album: Tough one. Depends what you're after. If you want Sabbathy riffs (and probably the best collection of riffs put to CD) check out The Carnival Bizarre. If you want DOOM and heaviness, check out Endtyme. If you just want an acessible album, The Ethereal Mirror is for you.

Songs:
- Best All Around: Midnight Mountain
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': Carnival Bizarre
- Most Relaxing: The Caravan or Astral Queen.
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Hopkins (The Witchfinder General)
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Utopian Blaster

Bands Like This Band: Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath. Saint Vitus. Trouble.

Coolest Thing About This Band: The track, Utopian Blaster. One of the best riffs ever AND the best lyric ever; "HUGGY BEAR, OH YEAH!". Oh, and Gaz Jennings, their guitarist writes the best riffs ever.

[Rizzo]

I don't have Mixed Up, but I really like the version of The Caterpillar on it.

I didn't read the discussion on previous pages of this thread so sorry if you've mentioned this before, but what would your choices of best/definitive songs be?

I'd say Love Cats and Just Like Heaven are probably the most Cure'y songs they do. That and a forest for it's use of synths and bass.

[Kai]

Since when has Black Sabbath been Doom metal?


And Khar, could you do Ephel Duath for me? All I have is Pain Necessary to Know, and it kicks ass.

[thesonglessbird]

Since when has Black Sabbath been Doom metal?

Since forever.

Perhaps they didn't know it at the time, but they were the first. Unless of course you are confusing doom metal (Cathedral, Saint Vitus, Trouble, The Obsessed, Electrc Wizard etc.) with doom/death metal (My Dying Bride after their initial death metal stage, early Anathema, Mourning Beloveth, Primordial, November's Doom etc.)

[KharBevNor]

Doom metal was truly invented on the first chord of Sabbath's 'Electric Funeral'.

I only actually have the ED you have as well as 'The Painters Palette' and some random tracks off their early stuff.

Suffice to say, 'The Painters Palette' slays. I've seen most of it live.

@Thesonglessbird: Do you know Candlemass? It's just they seem conspicuously absent whenever you list slaying old-school Doom bands.

[thesonglessbird]

Candlemass I never think of for some reason. Dont know why. I just tend to think of Wino fronted bands, heh.

[Kai]

BUMP




Seriously, this thread cannot die, it is too awesome.

[cibohphobic]

I'd be appreciative if someone would do the Flaming Lips for me. I've heard a handful of songs and they seem fantabulous. More info? Suggestions? Anyone? Bueller?

[Kai]

If someone could do Yes, since I just don't have enough of them. And Emerson, Lake and Palmer if possible.

[Aram]

Hmm... I was wondering.. What's the difference between Black Metal, Doom Metal, Death Metal, Heavy Metal. I never reallly understood the differences. Anyone got some answers?

And to make this actually part of the thread... I know nothing about Opeth.. Anyone can help me out?

[Kai]

Go check out www.anus.com/metal

[Aram]

Oh hey, thanks man :D
I appreciate it.

[RUMBLEMOOSE]

I can do the Flaming Lips but with a catch: I don't remember their old stuff very well and I haven't listened much to their new stuff, so I can cover them from In a Priest Driven Ambulance to Clouds Taste Metallic. Be advised that they had three or four albums before this period and have released probably their two or three most successful albums afterwards.

Band Name: The Flaming Lips (1990-1996)

Genre: Back when "alternative rock" was a genre and not a confession of being really confused as to what genre a band really was, the Lips were alternative rock

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 8.9

Best Album: I will say In A Priest Driven Ambulance, although Clouds Taste Metallic is criminally underrated

Songs:
- Best All Around: When You Smile
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': God Walks Among Us Now (Jesus Song No. 6)
- Most Relaxing: Evil Will Prevail
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: She Don't Use Jelly (at least for their mid 90s material)
- Song That Best Represents The Band: Slow Nerve Action

Bands Like This Band: Mercury Rev (sometimes), Starlight Mints (I think)

Coolest Thing About This Band: They were a one-hit wonder in 1993, they are "rock pioneers" now, and their back catalog extends to 1984. Also, their early and mid-90s records honestly do sound better when the volume is all the way up, just like it says on the back of Transmissions From the Satellite Heart

[cibohphobic]

Thank you.

Somebody want to do Of Montreal for me?

[Kai]

I'm pretty sure they've been done.




LIKE FOUR TIMES. STOP REQUESTING THE ARCADE  FIRE/BSS/OF MONTREAL/ETC.


Someone (Mostly Khar or Storm, probably) mind doing Therion?



Also, someone needs to post somethign I can do.

[Storm Rider]

Don't know a thing about them. That's Khar's territory.

If anyone asked about some obscure progressive band I'd actually have something to do.

Now I'm going to go flood the Forced Listening thread. I will get somebody on this board besides Khar to like Iced Earth.

[Kai]

I like Iced Earth too! Don't exclude people, it's not cool. Granted, I only have one album, but.

[Storm Rider]

Oh, I thought they were on your Artists to Check Out list. My mistake.

[Kai]

They were, but I've been pirating like crazy and they were one of the things I happened to have gotten. Agoraphobic Nosebleed were on there too but I just can't get into them.

[Rizzo]

Can one of you spooky people do Skinny Puppy or :Wumpscut:?
Thanks in advance.

[cibohphobic]

I'm pretty sure they've been done.




LIKE FOUR TIMES.

I apologize.

[Valrus]

I'm telling you, this thread needs a fucking index. I'm fixin' to make one myself.

[Kai]

While I don't have enough of either to give you a full thing, I can tell you to go pick up Skinny Puppy's Too Dark Park. Tis great.

[KharBevNor]

Therion?

Band Name: Therion

Genre: To Ho Drakon, Ho Megas, Death metal. From there to about Lepaca Kliffoth, odd melodic death metal. Theli on, Operatic Metal: somewhere in between Dark Tranquillity, Avantasia and Richard Wagner.

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9/10. Stonking band.

Best Album: Theli or Lemuria

Songs:
- Best All Around: You have to be shitting me. Impossible choice.
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': A Black Rose (Covered in Tears, Blood and Ice), Riders of Theli, or basically the entire album 'Beyond Sanctorum'
- Most Relaxing: Lemuria
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: To Mega Therion, and their Abba cover, Summer Night City*.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: To Mega Therion

Bands Like This Band: Early stuff is relatively standard Swedish sound DM. The next stage can find sort-of-analogues in Gallery era Dark Tranquillity, a bit of Old Amorphis I suppose... Later stuff is pretty unique. Try Winds, Avantasia...jeez, I dunno. They're pretty unique.

Coolest Thing About This Band: I think the coolest thing is that they're all members of a hermetic cult called the Dragon Rouge, whose leader does a lot of their lyrics and I think may actually appear on several tracks. Oh, and the fact that there's only three proper members at the moment, but there were about 250+ musicians on the last album.

*Get the video. SO AWESOME.

[Kai]

250 Musicians? SO BADASS.

[KharBevNor]

Full orchestra, full choir, and a load of guest musicians and vocalists. This is a band that does unusual stuff. Where else are you going to find a metal band that credits three balalaika soloists?

[CaptainLorax]

request: to rocco rot, umphrey's mcgee, gentle giant

[Rizzo]

Can one of you spooky people do Suicide Commando or :Wumpscut:?
Thanks in advance.

[Storm Rider]

Damn, I have some good memories of this thread.

Khar, you should do Agalloch for me. I've heard good things about them, but don't know much about their styles or where to start.

EDIT: And Sabbat, for that matter.

[timehat]

Quorthon's tale actually takes stock parts from several sagas or folk-tales. It's as attempt at a kind of Tolkienesque uberlegend. It's a bit of a Bears Son Folktale (as if anyone here would understand that term).

Band Name: Opeth

Genre:  Progressive Death Metal.

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 7.5

Best Album: Blackwater Park

Songs:
- Best All Around: "Bleak"
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': "Karma" *
- Most Relaxing: "Harvest" *
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Again, no idea.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: "The Moor"

- Bands Like This Band: They mainly rip off Edge of Sanity :p. Agalloch and Mid-period Amorphis are also pretty similiar.

- Coolest Thing About This Band: Pretty fucking luscious guitar wankery. Never let any man say that they cannot swing their sticks and axes. They can summon up a pretty good atmosphere as well, I like their aesthetic.

*These are both rather problematic as, with all the best will to them, most of Opeths songs are actually 3 different tracks bridged together, none I can think of is continuosly rawr, and Harvest is the only one that I can think of as continuously soft. Bear in mind this is skewed by the fact I don't own Damnation or Deliverance (Their completely 'hard' and 'soft' albums. Which are doubtless replete with some tracks).

Whilst Opeth are a pretty cool band, they are horribly over-rated. Almost every kid that raves about them has never heard Edge of Sanity, Amorphis or Agalloch, or any of the classic progressive acts that influence them, and thus view Opeth as something incredibly unique and zomgincredible, when in fact they aren't really.

I agree. Blackwater Park is my favorite of theirs, and I think more people should check out the classic prog stuff if they like Opeth. I will say that Agalloch is boring though. Anyone have anything to say about Tom Ze'?

[timehat]

...

[KharBevNor]

Khar, you should do Agalloch for me. I've heard good things about them, but don't know much about their styles or where to start.

EDIT: And Sabbat, for that matter.

Band Name: Agalloch

Genre: Neo-folk/prog metal

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9.5/10.

Best Album: Pale Folklore

Songs:*
- Best All Around: hmn... '...And the Great Cold Death of the Earth'
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': 'I Am The Wooden Doors' or 'She Painted Fire Across the Skyline'.
- Most Relaxing: 'Foliorum Viridium'
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: ...nah.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: 'As Embers Dress the Sky'

Bands Like This Band: Opeth, old Amorphis and mid-period Tiamat all have echoes of their style, but they also take a lot from non-metal bands, particularly Sol Invictus and Swans. Some SI songs (ie. 'Let us Prey') could easily be Agalloch tracks, and vice versa.

Coolest Thing About This Band: Apart from the way the band members bring their relatively broad musical palette to bear on their music, it's the way they bring a very post-rock compositional sensibility and pure folk playing styles to the writing of metal, for a very unique sound. And, given that apart from Sol Invictus and Swans they also list Ulver, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nick Cave, Arvo Part and Fields of the Nephilim as influences, if there's any true, awesome metal band that hipsters are gonna like, it's probably Agalloch.

*Agalloch are an album band if ever I've heard one. If you want to check them out before buying, please get a whole album.




Band Name: Sabbat

Genre: Thrash fucking metal

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 8/10.

Best Album: History of a Time to Come


Songs:
- Best All Around: 'Mythistory'/'Horned is the Hunter'
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': 'A Cautionary Tale'
- Most Relaxing: Haha. 'Happy Never After (Outro)' maybe?
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: 'For Those Who Died'
- Song That Best Represents The Band: 'For Those Who Died'

Bands Like This Band: No-one's QUITE like Sabbat. Your old German thrash Gods are probably the best bet.

Coolest Thing About This Band: If they'd had a better drummer, they would probably have been the best thrash band ever.

[Misereatur]

Could someone have a go at Sunn 0))) for me?

Band Name: SunnO))

Genre: Drone/Sludge/Doom

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9.3

Best Album: White1

Songs:
- Best All Around: My Wall
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': It Took The Night To Believe/HELL-O)))-WEEN
- Most Relaxing: A Shaving of the Horn that Speared You
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: No clue.
- Song That Best Represents The Band: The Gates of Ballard

Bands Like This Band: Boris, Earth, Teeths Of Lions Ruled The Divine.

[jcknbl]

Ok, so this is going back to page 5 and before I started posting here (but I thinkI was lurking back then)

has anyone requested Deerhoof yet?  i'd like to know more about them.

Yes!

Band Name: Deerhoof

Genre: Art Punk, Noise Pop

Your Rating Of Them (1-10): 9.5-9.8

Best Album: Consensus seems to be The Runners Four

Songs: (This mostly applies to their more recent stuff, earlier works didn't really do the whole "song thing", at least not the way most bands do it)
- Best All Around: My favorite happens to be L'Amour Stories but for the most part most of the songs are at the same level of awesomeness
- Loudest/Hardest/Most Rockin': Giga Dance? Almost all of their songs have a ton of energy
- Most Relaxing: Bone-Dry (Deerhoof isn't really a band for relaxing)
- Most Played/A song by them you may have heard: Panda Panda Panda (Its been around the blogs and Jeph made some jokes about it, maybe a friend shared it?)
- Song That Best Represents The Band: The Magnificent Bird Will Rise, Panda Panda Panda, and Twin Killers will do a decent job- one track would force me to leave out changes in their sound over the years.

Bands Like This Band: Animal Collective and the Unicorns but with more noise.

Coolest thing about this band: If you can get past the vocals that some find annoying you'll find a really awesome experiment contrasting noise with twee melody- Get past that and you'll find incredibly catchy pop songs. They've gotten more accessible and have dropped a good bit of their noise influences and twee vocals but they've gotten better and better at writing songs.

[Tropylium]

I request adding to the first post of this thread a list of all bands described so far, preferrably also mentioning on which page they appear.

And to contribute something … nobody asked, but I'm simply fanatic about them, so here goes:

Band name: Tangerine Dream

Genre:

• 1967 to 1973 ("The Pink Years"): Krautrock
  
• 1973 to 1980 ("The Classic Period"): Berlin School
  
• 1980 to 1985 ("The Hyperborean Era"): Crossfades from Berlin School to New Age. I don't think this kind of music has any specific name, but it's pretty close to some New Wave… I'm tentatively calling it "Citruscore".
  
• 1985 onwards ("Blue", "Melrose", "Seattle" and "Millenium Years"): New Age with numerous forays into rock and dance music directions - lately also opera.[/list:u]
  
  My Rating Of Them: By the divisions above, I give 7/10, 10/10, 10/10 and 7/10.
  
  Best Album: Hard to say, but Poland (1983), Rubycon (1975) and Force Majeure (1979) are mentioned on most fans' top 5 lists.
  
  Songs
  • Best: There's no way in hell to name just one as objectively best, but I'm not alone in the opinion that Ricochet, Part Two (1975) is utter and insurmountable genius.
    
  • Most Rockin': IMO, Cool Breeze of Brighton (1986) and Cloudburst Flight (1979). The former is a perfect example of "sequencer-rock", while the latter concentrates purely on guitar.
    
  • Loudest/Hardest: Any fantapes from the 1977 tour (especially the Montreal and Detroit gigs.) The official tour album "Encore" is pretty tame in comparision.
    
  • Most Relaxing: They've done hours and hours of ambient, but Rubycon and Love On A Real Train usually top the fan-polls of this sort.
    
  • A Song Of Them You May Have Heard: the aforementioned Love on a Real Train, from the Risky Business soundtrack (1983), as well as the whole soundtrack to Legend (1985).
    
  • Song That Best Represents The Band: If you only have time for one, make it Horizon (from the Poland album), and make sure you hear it in its 20-minute entirety. If you have more time, Green Desert (1973) is a good primer to their early style, Stratosfear (1976) crystallizes their late 70s style, and Lamb with Radar Eyes (1996) is a good example of their 90s style.[/list:u]
    
    Bands Like This Band: A few same-generation names to look out for are Klaus Schulze, Ash Ra Tempel and Jean-Michel Jarre. Out of newer (80s-90s) followers, I'll name Robert Schroeder, Arcane, Redshift and Airsculpture.
    
    Coolest Thing About This Band: All 70s concerts were improvised, which is good news for collectors like me.

[nancygirl]

I don't see why. Pete's a beast!

He is such a TANK!! Man I used to have the biggest crush on him...now I think he's actually pretty scary looking. I still have a poster of him in my room though.