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MyLordIsInfinite:
Jeez, we have a lot of musical snobbery here.

Screamo, or any genre of music, should be what the LISTENER makes of it, not some asshole on the internet bashing on the listener's views of good music. If someone wants to call post-hardcore screamo, then fucking let them guys, don't bash on them because they might be a little misguided, just let them be because they are happy with how they feel about music.

SpacemanSpiff:
I beg to differ with that statement for a couple of reasons. First:

--- Quote from: MyLordIsInfinite ---Screamo, or any genre of music, should be what the LISTENER makes of it, not some asshole on the internet bashing on the listener's views of good music. If someone wants to call post-hardcore screamo, then fucking let them guys, don't bash on them because they might be a little misguided,
--- End quote ---

No, for you see, the idea of the genre is to allow everyone to classify music sort of universally. So you can say "band A is genre B" and you have a faint idea of what they might sound like.
Now, this concept as such is already flawed as soon as someone tries to instantiate it but there's no need to make it even worse by claiming that genres are completely down to personal interpretation. There's already a lot of room there (more room than we need, thanks to the room we have discussions like this), no need to make even more.
"To me, the A*Teens are Death Metal." ... No.

--- Quote ---just let them be because they are happy with how they feel about music.
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Right, since when does feeling good about the music you like and assigning genre tags correlate? "I sure would love that band, but they're hardcore, so I can't like them"? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

ManlyMan:
I don't think anyone is trying to be a real ass in here. Genres and labels were created to organize all types of things (mainly entertainment).

Calling an action movie a drama because it has 5 minutes of dramatic scenes isn't very accurate. Especially if 1 hour and 30 minutes of that movie was shoot out scenes.

There are obviously some crossovers, when bands change or when they're just plain strange, and move from one genre to the next in each song. Generally though, labels and genres were created for some organization. Letting people think whatever they want about genres creates confusion....like how almost nobody knows what punk, emo, or screamo is.

Genres and labels are also very good for describing music. That's what I think, anyway. You're free to think what you want.



"You're not punk, and I'm telling everyone". Heh.

sp2:
My point is that the term "emo" is often used as an insult.  When someone calls something that clearly isn't emo "emo" or an emo-derivative and means it as an insult, they're a moron.  Especially if they're a supposed death-metal fan who likes Slipknot.  That makes them a moron.  A MORON.

Basically, if you don't know what genre something is, throwing a name at it randomly as an insult is stupid.  Especially if you're a self-described music fan who doesn't know shit about music, but are trying to be "cooler" than someone who actually does.

Also:


--- Quote ---I don't think anyone is trying to be a real ass in here.
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Wrong.

trolley:
Most of the music of the past five years or so that has been slapped into the emo genre is just lazy classifying. Pretty much all "nu-emo" bands could be classified better than it is at the moment, and would probably be alot more useful. For instance, whether you like or loathe them, an accoustic driven band like dashboard confessional is hardly in the same genre as a shouty loud band such as From Autumn To Ashes.

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