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From Autumn to Ashes
sp2:
A)
--- Quote ---Yeah, why don't you just ask the mods to lock this topic, if you're gonna do it that way.
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Wrong. I simply denied that no one was trying to be an asshole. This could have been referring to the fact that we were being music snobs, or the fact that this thread even exists in the first place. Seriously, if I posted on here with colored text and everything how I thought that people should stop bashing on Good Charlotte because really they're talented and I like them and that's my right to like them, so stop being music snobs wah! I would be inciting a flame war. Now, I think Good Charlotte are shit. I think they're an affront to my opinions on what punk should be about and what the punk scene should attempt to be. But even if I liked them, posting something like that is BEGGING for flame replies. Same with this thread. There is no respect here for FATA. They suck. Want to discuss them? This is not the place.
B)
--- Quote ---I started this thread to talk about FATA, one of my favorite bands, and ended up having to read people totally bash on them, its some bullshit.
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Hey, at least we're talking about your band instead of rambling about something else, like Skyclad or Siobhan or Constantines or Dismemberment Plan or whatever. Be glad this has (mostly) stayed on topic.
C)
--- Quote ---People have differing opinions. Also, ending the post with "fucking bitches" is not a good idea. What with it, y'know, making you come across as a cock and all.
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Man, and here I thought liking From Autumn to Ashes made him come across as a cock. Thanks for setting me straight.
sp2:
Okay, a serious post before this gets locked...
The original post in this thread suggested that any music snob should like From Autumn to Ashes because they put in so many different things to satisfy everyone. This concept is offensive. This is called "pandering to the audience" among other things. It is not restricted to FATA, it extends to many, many other bands, the obvious example for me being Coldplay, but really, there are countless examples in the indie scene (Interpol, for example, but there are many others), the mainstream scene (most of the mainstream scene, really), the goth scene, the punk scene, and just about any other scene.
Many of us do not listen to music for a certain sound or a certain musical element. I listen to everything from the Pixies to Frontline Assembly to The Mars Volta to Arcade Fire to Dead Kennedys to My Bloody Valentine to...you get the picture. What I do look for in music is sincerity and an attempt to do your own thing. I don't WANT to hear someone cynically hashing together elements from several genres in the attempt to attract a crossover audience. That not only doesn't interest me, but that offends me as both a producer and a consumer of music. I am offended as a musician because, although I am nowhere nearly as talented as these mainstream musicians, I put more effort into making my music my own than these guys do, and music isn't even my career. I am offended as a music fan because such behavior shows that these musicians pretty much only view me as a target market or some other bullshit marketing term that turns me into a statistic.
FATA do not try anything new. They do not take chances. They do not make music for the sake of the music. And that is offensive and bashworthy.
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---People only saying they like a band = circle jerk.
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But see, there's the thing. It doesn't have to be a circle jerk, as long as we keep it civil. Yes, it's possible; I go to high school every day and go home without punching anyone, yet I have discussions about music all the time, and not just with my friends.
--- Quote from: sp2 ---posting something like that is BEGGING for flame replies
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No, honestly, it's begging for a lock. It's begging for us not to even dignify it with a response, not for us to get into a flame war.
sp2:
--- Quote from: Johnny C ---I go to high school every day and go home without punching anyone
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Man, I wish I went to your high school. Back when I was in high school it was less the punchings and more the knifings.
Johnny C:
Drunks of my school's level aren't co-ordinated enough to shiv. FACT.
Anyways, look! Forum rules!
--- Quote ---Don't be a dick. If someone creates a thread about x genre of music that is not an invitation for fans of y genre to jump all over x thread because they don't like it, or because x isn't y. Further, don't then go and attempt to make everything about genre y.
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