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« Reply #50 on: 16 Sep 2005, 15:07 »

Deal.  Head or chest?
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« Reply #51 on: 16 Sep 2005, 15:10 »

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The great thing about Ulver is that they achieved such electronic success after creating some of the greatest forest metal of all time. Not to mention that they almost certainly kicked off all post-black metal.


I know, they are such a great band. Bergtatt is in my opinion the greatest black metalalbum ever recorded. I love it. And Kraftwerk is facken awesome.
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« Reply #52 on: 16 Sep 2005, 16:05 »

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Fuck YES

*Listens to 'Bomb'*

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The Echoing Green


Are they nam,ed after that poem by that guy? it's a great poiem
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« Reply #53 on: 16 Sep 2005, 17:52 »

Electronica is largely foreign to me, but I do know A few things I like:

http://www.djriotradio.com/?section=albumography&title=Omega-5
Omega-5, a trance album by DJ riot, a portland OR DJ, I got it from his posting on a forum I frequent.

And Fatboyslim..... LIVE. Yeah, I'm having a hard time navigating electronica, it is so foreign, anyone reccomend some trance?
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« Reply #54 on: 16 Sep 2005, 21:30 »

I've found DJ Tiesto to be a pretty solid reccomendation for trance.
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« Reply #55 on: 17 Sep 2005, 06:59 »

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Are they nam,ed after that poem by that guy? it's a great poiem


1. Bomb is one of the greatest EBM anthems ever :)

2. I'm not sure really, they're an awesome band though. Download "The Story Of Our Lives", it's their biggest song (The "Epic Mix" if you can get it, but any version kicks ass)

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« Reply #56 on: 17 Sep 2005, 10:19 »

maybe i'm wrong here (and maybe i'm a little drunk), but everything anyone's ever called EBM comes off as some really, really weak, depressing, boring 4/4 trance with someone monotonously droning over the top of it about how shite their life is and how black their soul is.

...so someone tell me that EBM and i got off on the wrong foot, and give me a solid recommendation.

please?
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« Reply #57 on: 17 Sep 2005, 10:42 »

Well, I'm not primarily an electronic music fan, and as such I can't really be expected to have much in the way of taste. Hell, I'm not even sure of the precise definition of ebm*. I probably have a far too wide definition of it. All I know, from my philistine, uneducated, heathen position, is that it rocks the cock off Aphex Twin. If you really want something 'innovative' or whatnot that I've always considered EBM, try :wumpscut:, specifically the tracks 'Funeral Diner', 'Black Death [French Concept]', 'Default' and 'Fear in Motion'. I think those deviate somewhat from your description anyway.


*Given that I technically make EBM music**, this is a pretty sorry state of affairs.

**or at least I think I do...
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« Reply #58 on: 17 Sep 2005, 10:57 »

Please note that as I mentioned above, my definitions suck cock. For a more solid definition of EBM and other genres, look up www.allmusic.com, I've been told their genres are pretty much spot on.

However, it tends to be used to describe the "heavier" and usually somewhat older stuff (there's a common notion going around at the moment that EBM is "dead", and indeed that's the URL for Neuroticfish's website so whether they make the stuff or not is debatable)

Anyway, recommendations for stuff which I feel fairly safe in describing as EBM:

Frontline Assembly - Anything from "Civilisation", esp. Maniacal and Psychosomatic
Front 242 - Headhunter v3.0
Advance and Follow/PTF-era VNV Nation - Cold and Joy are good songs to start with
KBN's recommended :Wumpscut: tracks, as well as Capital Punishment
Early Funker Vogt counts too, I think.

The more techno/trancy stuff tends to be called Futurepop (coined by one of the guys in VNV, I believe) or just dark synthpop. To be honest though, to me it's all the same kind of stuff. I never bothered much with genres. Heavy guitar music is "metal", medium is "rock" and light is "indie". Stuff that goes "beep" is "synthpop" and stuff that goes "beep thudda thudda bang" while some angry German guy shouts at me is "industrial". ;)

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« Reply #59 on: 17 Sep 2005, 11:08 »

EBM is just down somewhere in my mind as 'industrial wot is dancey'.

I generally just loathe the idea of listening to anything whose genre has the word pop in it, though I know  I do. In my mind, 'pop' is anathemic to the whole goth/gothic/cyber/darkwave aesthetic. I don't even care if it's supposed to be ironic or something. I liken calling a song 'poppy' or saying a band has 'pop sensibilities' to calling a painting 'nice' or 'pretty', ie utterly damning criticism.
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« Reply #60 on: 18 Sep 2005, 01:54 »

It depends whether it's poppy like Belle and Sebastian and The Fiery Furnaces or poppy like Kylie. I take my definition of pop as something generally light and catchy.

Bringing it back on topic: How awesome is synthpop? Ladytron are so much more awesome than I remember.
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« Reply #61 on: 19 Sep 2005, 06:51 »

I have no clue if they qualify as electronica, but I'm bloody well gonna list them anyway :p Depeche Mode!
The single of the new album sounds at least remotely promising that it won't be such an utter piece of junk like Exciter...

Also worthy of special mention, Frank Klepacki for excellence in the field of awesome music. (Like the entire Command & Conquer soundtrack with the exception of Generals) you can listen to high quality versions of all his songs at http://www.frankklepacki.com'>http://www.frankklepacki.com

Further more:
Apoptygma Berzerk
Delerium
Front Line Assembly
KMFDM, though I mostly stick to WW3, I find a lot of the early cd's too repetetetetetetetive
Switchblade Symphony
The Cynic Project (some of their songs can be downloaded at http://www.tcpmusic.com">http://www.tcpmusic.com/
Blue Man Group
Front 242
Skinny Puppy
New Order
and various game soundtracks esspecially the soundtracks of Unreal Tournament, UT2003. Both Ragnarok Online and The Sims 2 have some very catchy tunes as well.
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« Reply #62 on: 19 Sep 2005, 06:57 »

Oh jesus, kill me now. How did I forget Delerium?

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« Reply #63 on: 19 Sep 2005, 10:37 »

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KMFDM, though I mostly stick to WW3, I find a lot of the early cd's too repetetetetetetetive

Then new album, Hau Rock, is really good. I never got around to WW3, because the few prior to it (XTORT, ADIOS) were pretty lame.

Also, I loves me some Squarepusher and Plaid. I'm quite surprised the lack of Squarepusher in this thread (except Martin). It's like Richard D. James spent a few months listening to nothing but jazz. And I highly recommend Plaid to everyone here. This is the group I automaticly think of when I hear the term IDM.

And, to join the list bands crew:  Daft Punk, Massive Attack, Tricky, Bjork (if she counts here), Aphex Twin, Autechre, Boards of Canada, Wagon Christ, Zero 7.
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« Reply #64 on: 19 Sep 2005, 11:42 »

Wagon Christ is fucking awesome. Ninjatune put out some great stuff :D

WWWIII is so far superior to Xtort it's hard to believe you're listening to the same band. Give it a chance ;)

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« Reply #65 on: 19 Sep 2005, 12:02 »

You're not really listening to the same band...

I dunno, I thought WW3 was a sorta dodgy album. Some good tracks, but a lot of it didn't really do much for me. I'd rather have Angst tbh. 'Last Things' and 'Bullets, Bombs and Bigotry' were very good tracks though.

And what's particularly wrong with XTORT?
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« Reply #66 on: 19 Sep 2005, 14:18 »

In the chiptunes subgenre:

> AY Riders
->> Factor 6
->> Gasman
->> X-agon
->> Yerzmyey
> firestARTer
> i, cactus
> Role Model
> rugar
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« Reply #67 on: 19 Sep 2005, 14:48 »

KBN are you gonna go see KMFDM live in October?

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« Reply #68 on: 19 Sep 2005, 15:11 »

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And what's particularly wrong with XTORT?

Nothing in particular. It just wasn't as good as Nihil or Angst. Power kicks a hell of a lot of ass, I'll grant you that. But then again, listening to Hau Ruck and Nihil sounds like different bands. Different bands that kick ass.
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« Reply #69 on: 19 Sep 2005, 15:15 »

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KBN are you gonna go see KMFDM live in October?


Nope. Didn't even know they were playing anywhere. I'm booked out gig-wise. It's first come, first served when you live on the Isle of Wight. Nowhere is simple to get to.
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« Reply #70 on: 19 Sep 2005, 15:44 »

Ah, fair enough, that is a bugger.

London is Sunday 30/10 at Scala if you change your mind :)

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« Reply #71 on: 21 Sep 2005, 02:00 »

Some stuff I like:

BT (consistently chunky, musically subtle housey stuff. Amazing remixes, too).
Juno Reactor (reliably awesome psytrance).
Shpongle (something of an acquired taste, but amazing).
Deep Dish (yes, I know Flashdance pisses you off. It pisses me off too. I care about the other 9 and a half years of brilliant house).
Danny Howells (solid tech-house, and he went off live).
Propellerheads (Echo And Bounce. Enough said.)
Layo & Bushwacka (decent breaksy house, with a few absolute gems)
Aphex Twin (and I've been a fan for years, so don't call me a bandwagon-jumper).
Crystal Method (phat beats).
The Freestylers (lovely, danceable breaks).
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« Reply #72 on: 21 Sep 2005, 03:01 »

M83        probally one of the best electronica ive heard in a long time big fan... :D
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« Reply #73 on: 21 Sep 2005, 10:23 »

I love me some M83 :) see the "song of the moment" thread...

New additions to my list: Spetsnaz, OVNI, Neikka RPM, Nebula H and Mono Chrome are all awesome. :D
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