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Can you recommend any Indie Christian music?

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sp2:
Personally, I have no interest in christian music.  Generally it is either an ironic attempt to cultivate "moral" messages in "debaucherous" media (like Christian death metal) or it is generally low quality.  Sometimes it's both.  I'm sure people can do it well, but really, it's not something that I think "oh gee, I want to hear my musicians singing about how Jesus loves them."  

I don't like God.  I don't believe God exists, and I do believe that the concept of God is detrimental to the human condition and prevents people from seeking self-actualization by creating a moral block on questioning authority and the dominant philosophies in our society.  When I look at the people who have done what I consider to be great things, I find that a majority of them are in fact not christian, or at least keep religion to a very limited portion of their life.  I can listen to music that has a message I disagree with (e.g. The International Noise Conspiracy....I disagree with communism for various reasons, such as that communism destroys the human spirit).  But I find christian music particularly condescending and masturbatory, not to mention offensive for some reason or another.


As for Sufjan, I think I'm the one person who didn't jump on the Sufjan bandwagon.  And really, I don't care.

RUMBLEMOOSE:
There's a fair amount of Christian hardcore around, probably because it's a short step from vegan-preachy or straightedge-preachy to Jesus-preachy. Some of it's not even that bad (Crucified, Overcome, Living Sacrifice).

Is Starflyer 59 Christian, or just on a Christian label? Kinda shoegazerish pop.

sp2:
Straightedge is the worst thing that ever happened to punk.

Well, second worst.  After Good Charlotte.

Luke:

--- Quote from: sp2 ---But I find christian music particularly condescending and masturbatory, not to mention offensive for some reason or another.
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Well, it's pretty much given that Christian music is going to be offensive to some people. This is because a main basis of most any religion is that any other belief system that contradicts that religion is wrong. It's to be expected.

soak:

--- Quote from: RUMBLEMOOSE ---vegan-preachy or straightedge-preachy to Jesus-preachy.
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Not all vegans are preachy and veganism is somewhat at odds with mainstream christianity.

Me I'm an Athiest-Vegan, so all you meat eaters can goto hell!

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