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Der Tattoo Thread.
ackblom12:
Kind of, the Swastika's he's referring to look a bit different from the Nazi Swastika. Doesn't change that a good number of folks still get them for Neo-Nazi relations, but there has been a large and growing number of people getting Hindu Swastikas over the last 20 or so years within the body modification community. Please keep in mind this is being written to that community. You can make plenty of discussion over cultural appropriation and Noble Savage descriptions of the origins of tattoos within the community, but that's a different subject entirely.
Also could you guys maybe not shit all over the dead guy's obituary?
nekowafer:
I don't think they meant any offense to ManWoman or his obituary.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: nekowafer on 14 Nov 2012, 07:39 ---I don't think they meant any offense to ManWoman or his obituary.
--- End quote ---
Not in the least. The visual difference between the two swastikas is a matter of 45 degrees, something which not many practitioners acknowledge in their art. As a person of jewish descent, I just get nervous when I see them. It's fine when they are done as devotional items, but seeing them that way is rare in the US outside certain cultural enclaves.
When my little brother shaved his head in the 80's because of his thick hair (he worked as an ice cream vendor in the heat of the beaches on cape cod), my mother's reaction was horror- shaving your head was someting that, at the time, was a symbol of neonazism. She knew full well why he did it, and told him straight out that it wasn't the shaved head she was upset about, but what it stood for in the eyes of others. The best of intentions behind a ruined symbol mean nothing in the panicked eye of the beholders.
ackblom12:
Ahhh, right. I forget that not everyone is aware of how most swastika tattos for non neo-nazi's look nowdays. First off, they're rarely done on their own if they are the more familiar style of Swastika, they pretty much always have Hindi context included with them nowdays, though some of the older reclamation tattoos did not. Some of the more modern ones that don't are done in ridiculously different styles. Here are some examples of more modern styles done through the last 10 years or so that I've been aware of them.
Part of ManWoman's collection, lot of these are 20 - 30 years old:
And others:
ackblom12:
Keeping in mind I'm not saying this is anything that anyone should be forced to accept it. Personally, I think it's an admirable thing to be doing, especially since the art style surrounding it has changed over the years, but I have a lot to say about the issue of a bunch of white dudes and ladies in the Western World culturally appropriating Hindi/Bhuddist symbolism, however well meaning it is.
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