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Radiohead
Dara:
radiohead are pretty cool. not my favorite, but i like them. favorite album is either The Bends or Hail to the Thief
Thrillho:
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yeah, they're alright.
tend to attract pretentious dickheads for fans though. same with tool.
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i find Radiohead also tends to attract some pretentious detractors as well. the type of people who are Pink Floyd fans but trash Darkside of the Moon and would literally marry (okay maybe not) Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
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Hmm...well I'm a quarter of the way there.
Sideways:
I've heard a lot of comments, over the years, about how Radiohead have pretentious fans... but in all the Radiohead forums I've been a part of, everyone is just plain awesome.
I've seen people come into these forums /just/ to bash Radiohead, and 99% of the reaction is; "Oh... well you obviously don't like them. That's cool."
I think the pretention comes from people who refuse to like Radiohead because it was so fashionable to like them for such a long time... after all, you can't be an indie kid if you like something that happens to be a critical darling, can you? Nope... can't be independant unless you pay way too much for new clothing that looks worn, and then try to 'out-obscure' your peers with your musical tastes... can you?
To be as objective as I possibly can, even though I'm one of the biggest Radiohead fans alive, I have to say this;
Their musical composition, ever since The Bends (and /especially/ OK Computer) is amazing. Some people call it genius... I've even been known to say the same... but to tone things down, and take them out of the realm of fanboydom, their compositions are unique, experimental and intelligent. Unlike many bands they have constantly evolved. No two albums have ever sounded alike, and no two songs on any album seem similar to one-another. They put on one of the most entertaining live shows in the business, bringing their electronic influences, classical instruments and energy to the stage with ease. Watching Johnny Greenwood literally dash across the stage during live renditions of 'Idioteque', playing with dozens of different mixers/samplers/EQs/etc... it's truly awesome (in the proper sense of the word, not the overused one).
To be objective, Thom's voice would probably bother a LOT of people. It can take some getting used-to, and depending on the song, it can vary greatly. People who've only ever listened to Paranoid Android, Just, Creep, Knives Out (etc) are probably going to think he's a terrible singer... but when you listen to the last minute and a half of 'Let Down' or songs like 'Pyramid Song', 'I might Be Wrong', 'Go To Sleep' or 'In Limbo', there's little denying the man has an INCREDIBLE vocal range.
Radiohead is not for everyone, obviously... and claiming that they are reshaping music is too bold a claim for even the biggest fans to make. They are, however, undeniably talented, experimental, and should be respected for what they've accomplished. Anyone claiming that they 'suck' is simply being ignorant.
Valrus:
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I'm not sure if that's just a matter of tuning into whatever deeper, pretentious (pretentious? Moi?) meaning-space they were coming from
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Since you're referring to a group of other people as pretentious, I believe it should be "Pretentious? Eux?"
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Kai:
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Keep in mind I am not interested in over the top bullshit. It would be nice if what I'm listening to actually resembles a song. And it would probably help if they were at least known enough to make getting shit imported to Australia not a giant kick in the balls.
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I was going to suggest The Residents, but some of their stuff is REALLY over the top, as is many of the others I was going to list (Captain Beefheart, Edgar Varese/other modern composers)
THere are a bunch of stuff I can still reccomend. I don't know how big you have to be to be imported to Austrialia, but alot of Buckethead's stuff is experimental-while-still-listenable-to-the-normal-person. Although he goes under a bunch of names, does alot of "guest starring", if you will, and has been in a big amount of bands, so here's a good list:
The Deli Creeps (Which were one of Mike Patton's favorite bands, if that interests you)
Buckethead
Death Cube K
Giant Robot
Zillatron
Cobra Strike
Praxis
El Stew
Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains
Cornbugs
Thanatopsis
Company 91
Gorgone
I also reccomend John Zorn (Naked City is usually mentioned with his name) and various Les Claypool projects. also, many a Mike Patton things are really good (Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, General Patton Vs. The Executioners). And Crotchduster.
EDIT: How the hell could I forget Zappa? Frank Zappa totally wins this post 3 times over.
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