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dancarter:
wow, touchy subject. more fuel on the fire!
okay, being that i'm of an age where i'm not really the target demographic for some hustler in a suit trying to find the pulse of the current trendy subculture (and i'm not saying that that makes me anymore informed than anyone else), my perspectives come from an outside looking in standpoint.
as an example, the metal thing: the tendency for people to relate it as being dumb, loud, obnoxious, etc. is that in certain respects, the aggressiveness carries a sort of testosterone fueled male dominant tag. while that's not entirely fair in many respects, people need labels to identify things. no reviewer just says that a certain author is a simply a writer who writes. it's 'horror maven stephen king' or 'lower intestine freezing danielle steele'. it's a category that develops a stereotype based on not learned knowledge of the genre, culture or people, but of the assumed behaviours of said peoples, musics, cultures. by and large, if you're on the outside and don't understand or are willing to take a chance on learning to appreciate the variety and skills of the types of music, you'll assume negative stereotypes about it and its listeners as a way of distancing yourself from them.
second, and here, using goth as an example: i wear a lot of black. am i a goth? no. do i like some of the music? yeah, sure. but i also like a ton of other things that have nothing to do with goth or the quasi-goth culture that permeates a lot of the current market. part of the reason that there is so much mockery of certain genres is that an image has been built around them by people trying to sell you that image or sell you on staying away from it. they don't sell the lifestyle, just the either glossy or wretched surface pattern. what you end up getting is some sort of kraft sliced cheese product version and that gets some people with loud voices who are within the actual culture very upset and they start making up their own little jokes and jabs about the culture. but that's fine. nothing should ever take itself so seriously, so things need to have the piss taken out of them every so often.
and hip-hop, rave and all the others? they all have their own built up attitudes and biases, stereotypes and whatnot. it's easier for people to dismiss than to try and understand. but when you consider the middle of the road, safe,sorta-culture that permeates the popular concious, what it all ends up looking like is some great big arguement over things because we have nothing important to actually argue about. people hear the worst and assume the worst.
okay, end rant.
Storm Rider:
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@ Kai: I believe the necrowizard, the necrowitch, necroyetis, mt. necrodeathmortum, azabagorath and associated fjords, transylvanian wintermountains, necrobobsledders and necrotobogganers, moongoats (satanic or otherwise), grimness, frostbitteness, grim frostbitteness, gay bars and the incessent hailing of all the above are the normal lyrical themes of INM.
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OK, I officially need to check out this band.
Kai:
http://inm.necrobation.org/
aahz:
Well then. As I read throught this I almost stopped and went off on the metal sterotype. But then I saw others did it for me. As for my view on stereotypes, it is always the people that listen only to that genre and nothing else that fall victim. Ex.
Bob only listens to Slayer. Any band other than Slayer sucks. If you even mention another band in the same sentence as Slayer, Bob tries to verbally remove your head. One would guess that Bob wears jeans/black pants, a Slayer t-shirt, has long hair and drinks far more than anyone should. He is also most likely very dumb.
Every "metalhead" (I am including myself in this one) that could ever string a coherent sentence together liked all sorts of things besides metal. While my favorite band is Nevermore, I also enjoy the Allman Brothers. Stereotypes simply apply to ignorant followers of the genre.
negative creep:
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Why did the term 'Metallian' never really spread outside of 80's Germany anyway?
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maybe because of sailor moon
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