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« on: 11 Nov 2005, 11:25 »
dayam, Sony is really going off the deep end with DRM technology.  Someone was just telling me how blu-ray discs can be locked to specific players (insanity) and then I saw this.  Seriously Sony, wtf?
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« Reply #1 on: 11 Nov 2005, 13:29 »
I would definitely boycott any/all sony products if this were to happen, and I'd suggest that many should do it with me.
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« Reply #2 on: 13 Nov 2005, 14:01 »
Sony is going to end up shooting itself in the foot if it keeps up with this.
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« Reply #3 on: 13 Nov 2005, 14:26 »
Well the Sony Rootkit (TM)  was a bit of an own goal to start with. Can you say LITIGATION?
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« Reply #4 on: 15 Nov 2005, 11:50 »
Obviously, I think the rootkit thing sucks. The attitude shown towards the whole issue by Sony sucks even more (installers don't work and require registration first, spokesmen say stupid shit).
But I hope this whole thing backfires horribly.

In the meantime, I have some good news for you all: There are tons of other CDs out there with that rootkit-copy-protection. The list.
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« Reply #5 on: 15 Nov 2005, 12:11 »
The whole purpose of selling games on a portable media device is to allow for it to be transferred from place to place.  Sony hasn't said they will be implementing this feature in the PS3, and I seriously doubt they will... they're not that stupid.

It would mean losing your entire library of games if your PS3 went splat, and you had to replace it.  It would mean not being able to bring a game over to a buddy's house, or purchase a pre-owned game...

There's no way they'll do this.
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« Reply #6 on: 15 Nov 2005, 12:28 »
Way to go sony! Take both your legs off at the knee BEFORE THE RACE EVEN STARTS.
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« Reply #7 on: 15 Nov 2005, 14:31 »
Sony will be the first ones up against the wall when the revolution comes
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« Reply #8 on: 15 Nov 2005, 18:05 »
I think they are just applying for the patent for the sake of having the patent.

Things like this already exist, to a lesser degree. Phantasy Star Online for the GC can lock multiplayer to one console. If you sell the game or your GC busts and you have to get a new one it become single player only.
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« Reply #9 on: 16 Nov 2005, 05:31 »
Seriously?  For a game with the word "online" in its title that is hella shitty.
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« Reply #10 on: 16 Nov 2005, 05:52 »
boing boing is doing quite a good job of tracking sony's descent into DRM madness.
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« Reply #11 on: 16 Nov 2005, 06:54 »
I love how their EULA is saying that if you declare bankruptcy you're legally obligated to delete all your sony music...
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« Reply #12 on: 16 Nov 2005, 22:39 »
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Seriously?  For a game with the word "online" in its title that is hella shitty.


Essentially it means don't sell your game to someone else unless the GC goes with it. Oh, and don't let your Cube break... then you're screwed.

Crap, I think I'm still paying the monthly for that game too... Haven't played in a year.
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« Reply #13 on: 20 Nov 2005, 13:25 »
I think from now on, if a band is on Sony I will download their CD if I want it.

Too bad no good bands are on Sony.
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« Reply #14 on: 20 Nov 2005, 15:19 »
there is a lot of hype and hyperbole running around regarding Sony's latest exploits.  seriously though, it seems to be just one PR nightmare after another for them lately doesn't it?

the rootkit fiasco and the way they have handled it hasn't done them any favours.  i am not sure how they have reacted to the news that Australians can now legally chip their units to get around region encoding either.  the PS2 High Court decision would probably hold over to the PS3, so i am pretty sure that if they tried to implement the blu-ray locking technologies we'd have legal modchips in about two seconds.

i really hope that they try something like it, actually.  i would like to see how the current PS2 modchip precedent will affect future modchip litigation in regards to restrictive DRM practices, and whether Sony will get the hint or not (although i am guessing "not").

i see Sony acting from a position of arrogance.  they are effectively saying "if you want to use our products, you will use them in this fashion".  obviously this is no way to run a business, and i can see this rootkit fiasco plus the hype surrounding the xbox360 and the Revolution, plus the earlier xbox360 ship date possibly contributing to the PS3 losing its top spot in the console market.

unless http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/20/sony_insider_drm_is_.html">this information is actually true, and people within Sony (and the artists they represent) are starting to get their message through to the thick-heads at the top of the management chain.
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« Reply #15 on: 20 Nov 2005, 17:52 »
Particularly hilarious is how they stole GPL-licensed code (including DVD-Jon's DRM removal code, iirc) for their rootkit. That means they...

committed copyright infringment by stealing anti-drm code in order to illegally install drm software to prevent copyright infringement.

I mean, seriously, wtF.
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« Reply #16 on: 21 Nov 2005, 11:02 »
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Add that to rising number of anti-DRM voices within in the company who have been against DRM as only hurting "the people that are doing the right thing and buying our music."

How long have people been telling that to the record labels?  I really hope they're finally getting it.  Now if only software makers would learn that same lesson.
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« Reply #17 on: 22 Nov 2005, 00:33 »
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« Reply #18 on: 22 Nov 2005, 07:54 »
Sony would like the Internet to fuck off and die.  If you take a broad view of their products, they're trying to come up with a Sony network - a happy world where everything is Sony, and only Sony can talk to other Sony stuff.  Full of DRM, of course.  Micropayments are the future!  You bought a Sony CD?  Want to listen to it on your portable Sony player?  It'll cost you!

Sweet sweet DRM.
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« Reply #19 on: 27 Nov 2005, 02:41 »
if sony pulls this i cant say ill miss them. the ps2 was great but now im just losing all interest in their company.
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