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Valrus:
Probably because in America we don't have to put up with them. ;)

Kai:
TAKE THAT BRITAIN, WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU SOMEHOW




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Also, that's awesome.

TH89:
Wooo this is a good thread for me

Anyway, my problem with gangsta rap is simply what a huge chunk of the genre it now occupies, and how that in turn is influencing the portion of youth who listen to it.  I can't say I know it's perpetuating gang rivalries, but it's definitely not helping.  That said, while Anticon and Rhymesayers and such are great bunches of dudes, there's more stuff out there.  My preferred artists, I guess, would be...
-Jurassic 5 (mainly for 2na and Cut Chemist, the rest of the MCs seem kinda dull and NuMark's production, while good, doesn't have enough energy to support J5's lyrics)
-Dilated Peoples
-Blackalicious
-Roots Manuva
-Alias
-Atmosphere
-MC Frontalot
-Optimus Rhyme
-Public Enemy
-Dalek
-Fine Arts Militia
-Delinquent Habits
-Grandmaster Flash & TFF

And as a scratch DJ, I've always been a fan of the DJs and instrumental producers as well...
-The Herbaliser
-DJ Spooky
-DJ Qbert
-Mixmaster Mike
-DJ Shadow
-Jack Dangers (some of his stuff at least qualifies as hip-hop)
-DJ JS-1
-Baddd Spellah

I prolly forgot a bunch.  Oh well. :P

Kai:
Optimus Rhyme FTW.

Bunnyman:
For overwhelming nerdiness, up to and on occasion exceeding the high standard set by MC Front, one need only to look to MC Paul Barman, the only MC I've ever heard name-drop Noam Chomsky and Tipper Gore.

"Nice graphics, but that's just half-ass agitprop to piss off a traffic cop."

"I once loved a place...the Breakfast Nook.  I loved and loved, but that nook never loved me back.  Love people, not places."

My take Gangsta is that it works when (A) The artist still busts insanely fat rhymes that don't rely on tacking on suffixes (ne '-izzle' and suchlike) to fill space; (B) the artist recognizes at some level that the genre's gone from being an expression of impovrished city life to a self-perpetuating caricature that's more based on Scarface than Queensbridge.  And, yes, NaS fits all those qualifications, even in Stillmatic.

And, goddamnit, I don't give two shits about how cool you are.  Prove it to me.  Jesus.  Battle tracks are so damn boring unless you do something awesome, like crib rhymes off Norse Mythology or

I had a track on my computer a while back called "The Real Fredrich Nietzche."  It was based of exactly what you think it was, and it kicked ass.  Unfortunately, it seems to have dissappeared into the mists of time.

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