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Iwan:

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2. I believe Lars is a better drummer then most people think. I mean; look at all the (ex-)Metallica members. Jaymz, Kirk, Robert Trujillo, Jason, CLIFF BURTON, Dave Mustaine.
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First of all, Lars was responsible for kicking Mustaine out of the band in the first place, and Metallica's fame is a sick zombie of Mustaine's creative ideas in the first place. And I certainly wouldn't call Trujillo or Newstead 'first-rate' musicians. Hell, I would say we can't even tell how good Burton was, because on Metallica's early recordings you can't even hear the bass (Although because of Orion, we know he could write songs).

Secondly, go listen to Master of Puppets for a few minutes, and make sure you listen carefully to the drumming. There's absolutely nothing interesting going on there. I know 13-year-olds (literally) who can drum better than he does in that song.

And finally, Metallica may have played some from AJFA live early on, but I know that they stopped doing so.
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You're either pulling my leg or you don't know your metal history... With the risk of making a total ass out of myself.

If anyone was responsible for sacking Mustaine, it was Burton. Lars and James will never admit it but there are a lot of people who will tell you that that Cliff was the leader of Metallica. He and Mustaine never got along in the first place.

When I say "first rate musicians" I'm talking about musicians with high technical skills. Maybe that you're a brilliant bassplayer but I would say that Jason and Robert are fuckin bass monsters. I've heard Robert do a solo and it was impressive.
Jason however indeed wasn't much of a songwriter. And it's a bit early to say anything about Robert.
If you search the Internet long enough, you shouldn't find it very hard to find some Cliff Burton footage (from Trauma to Metallica).
And you should be able to hear bass on the early Metallica songs...
Anaesthasia (pulling teeth) which is a 4 minute bass solo...
The intro of "For whom the bell tolls". Yes, it's a bass...
The Call of Ktulu

The only album where the basses are mixed in the background is ...And justice for all.

And no, they still play songs from ...And justice for all. Maybe they didn't play many songs when opening for the Stones but they did play at least 3 songs from AJFA on the last tour.

Storm Rider:
I don't play bass, but I can think of plenty of bassists that are better than Newstead or Trujillo.

But I was under the impression that Lars and James kicked out Mustaine for his heroin addiction, not that Burton kicked him out because their personalities clashed.

And isn't Trujillo out of the band now anyway?

SpacemanSpiff:
Most great drummers were mentioned already, I especially agree with Jon Theodore, Brian Chippendale, Danny Carey and Gavin Harrison.

I would like to add:

Doug Scharin (June of 44, among other things)

Todd Trainer (Shellac, Brick Layer Cake)


Mark Trombino (Drive Like Jehu)
I can't find a picture.

Damon Che (Don Caballero)


Weasel Walter (The Flying Luttenbachers, xbxrx, To Live And Shave In LA 2, Hatewave, whatever the fuck else)


John Davis (Q And Not U)

StrikeThePostman:
Kevin O'Donnell of Squirrel Nut Zippers, Andrew Bird's Bowl of Fire, and Kevin O'Donnell's Quality Six.  Other things too, maybe.  He's a pretty cool guy.

Kai:

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Dude, Mustaine doesn't get along with ANYBODY. That guy is a prick.

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