Topic: Stoner Rock........ uh, what was i sayin again? (Read 13957 times)

Jooooosh · « **on:** 21 Jan 2006, 23:19 »

What is your Favorite Stoner Rock band?

mine currently is Explosions in the Sky

Aram · « **Reply #1 on:** 21 Jan 2006, 23:20 »

Sadly, I don't listen to any... Is it really worth listening to? What's the -best- band, when looking at it unbiasedly.

ozphactor · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 Jan 2006, 23:39 »

I thought Explosions in the Sky were post-rock. Isn't stoner rock more like Queens of the Stone Age, etc.?

almost thursday · « **Reply #3 on:** 21 Jan 2006, 23:49 »

i thought so too...

favourte band to listen to while stoned (i think this is what you meant) is zeppelin.

El Opium · « **Reply #4 on:** 21 Jan 2006, 23:50 »

Explosions in the Sky are stoner rock? My personal faves in the genre are Skullflower, though they somewhat push the envolope of the classification. I also like Kyuss, Orange Goblin and Sleep. I seriously need to get Electric Wizard's Dopethrone, I ordered it once before but the distro was out.

RUMBLEMOOSE · « **Reply #5 on:** 21 Jan 2006, 23:51 »

I've mentioned this before, but I don't get high and yet I listen to Kyuss, Sleep, and a bunch of other "stoner" acts. Kyuss' Blues For the Red Sun is a great place to start if you're new to the genre I think.

Outshined · « **Reply #6 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 00:02 »

I wonder if Pinback falls into this category? It is kind of hard to pinpoint what it is, exactly, that makes this band really great to me. Maybe it's the low quality production of the sound, with it's fuzzy, warm edges, or maybe it's the novel lyrics and unconventional descriptions the vocalist brings to his songs. They have a very pleasing hypnotic quality about them that makes you zone out in a good way, anyway.

Disgustipated · « **Reply #7 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 00:34 »

I think people need to update their stoner rock definitions :/

I listen to quite a bit of stoner rock/metal.

Orange Goblin, Witchcraft, Yob and, of course, The Melvins are all among my favourites.

negative creep · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 03:02 »

kyuss all the way. and dopethrone is a very good album indeed. but explosions in the sky? not really stoner rock as far as i know.

Luke C · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 03:35 »

Quote from: ozphactor

I thought Explosions in the Sky were post-rock. Isn't stoner rock more like Queens of the Stone Age, etc.?

IF QOTSA count then they are my favourite stoner rock band.

ASturge · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 04:16 »

Olivia Tremor Control have an element of Stoneryness too them i guess...

KharBevNor · « **Reply #11 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 04:43 »

Quote from: El Opium

I seriously need to get Electric Wizard's Dopethrone

Yes, yes you do.

The amount of stoner rock and metal I listen to would probably suggest I smoke the good stuff a lot more than I actually do. Acid Bath are my favourite of all time, followed closely by Ewigkeit, Orange Goblin, Old Pink Floyd, Sleep, Hawkwind and Electric Wizard. I personally have a somewhat loose definition of stoner rock of course: songs about taking drugs are not necessary, as long as it is patentyly obvious that the songs were written on drugs. I also tend to drop a wider family of drugs into the stoner rock category: as long as a band has a few dope-tastic songs they can get away with a bit of ketamine, mushrooms or heroin on other tracks. Or even just extreme drunkenness.

I would suspect a lot of people round here might like stuff like Placebo, as opposed to ultra-heavy stoner groove whatsits. I must say I do personally have a bit of a soft spot for them, especially the tracks 'Special K', 'Pure Morning', 'Every Me Every You', 'Teenage Angst' and 'Brick Shithouse'.

TrueNeutral · « **Reply #12 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 07:01 »

Pure morning has got to be one of the funniest songs ever.

normz · « **Reply #13 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 07:09 »

my friend and i are well known for breaking out into verses from pure morning at random drunken moments altho i still think brian molko is a whiny motherfucker

fave stoner rock band would have to be old floyd, or maybe king crimson (are they even stoner rock)

Kai · « **Reply #14 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 07:18 »

King Crimson aren't really sotner rock; You can get stoned to them, sure, why the hell not, but I don't imagine Robert Fripp ever actually smoking any, and it doesn't sound like they were really on drugs when writing any of it.

also:
FUCKING HAWKWIND

And alot of the ones Khar mentioned.

Iwan · « **Reply #15 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 08:46 »

On Stonerrock.com, Gary Arce said something about the term "stonerrock". He was not very pleased with it because most people put bands with an heavy groove next to the more ambient Yawning Man. Also, Josh Homme and Nick Oliveri aren't too happy with being labeled "stonerrock", even with the amount of drugs that they do.
And going by the bands that are being named here, "stonerrock" is pretty vague.
Stonerbands I listen to; Kyuss, Monster Magnet, recently discovered Hawkwind, Hypnos 69 are pretty good too, Yawning Man.
Not too many people mentioned Mastodon.

Maybe it's just me but I feel that stonerrock is gaining popularity. A lot of people seem appealed by it; youngsters who are looking for something heavier then your average pop and rock and headbangers who are fed up with the current state of the metal scene.
At one hand, I think it's great that those bands will get attention (most of it is great live music).
On the other hand, I'm a bit scared that some people will try to make money out of it by overexposition.

Kai · « **Reply #16 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 09:59 »

Yes, but if they do try to make money off it, what will they use that money on? More drugs. Which means more stoner rock and more money for more drugs.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #17 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 10:32 »

Quote from: Kai

Yes, but if they do try to make money off it, what will they use that money on? More drugs. Which means more stoner rock and more money for more drugs.

That was basically the manifesto of one of my favourite bands Spacemen 3:
Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs to (also the title of a bootleg).

Cpt.Fantastic · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 10:42 »

It has to be Hawkwind and Kyuss for me.

'Doremi Fasol Latido' sounds so awesome on a record player.

nescience · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 11:03 »

Fuckin' A on the "Brick Shithouse" deal. That shit got me through high school.

Aram · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 13:02 »

If QotSA is stoner rock, then I like that part of the genre :P

Ficus · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 13:16 »

Quote from: RUMBLEMOOSE

Kyuss' Blues For the Red Sun is a great place to start if you're new to the genre I think.

I couldn't agree more. It's the album that single-handedly got me into Stoner Rock.

ASturge · « **Reply #22 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 13:25 »

I really don't see Kyuss in that way...

negative creep · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 14:39 »

in what way DO you see kyuss then?

Aram · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 15:02 »

Kyuss? Is that even stoner rock?

ASturge · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 15:18 »

No, they are not.

I see them in the ....quite....good music way.

Aram · « **Reply #26 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 15:27 »

Well, what genre are they then?

negative creep · « **Reply #27 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 15:32 »

well, yea, of course, kyuss are "desert rock" but hey....

Aram · « **Reply #28 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 15:44 »

Desert rock? Now you're just making stuff up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_Of_The_Stone_Age
According to this, they're Alt Rock/Hard Rock/Stoner Rock

Disgustipated · « **Reply #29 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 15:54 »

Stoner rock doesn't refer to any rock music that people get stoned to :s Explosions in the Sky are not even close to stoner rock. King Crimson and Pink Floyd aren't really either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock

Mr. Oysterhead · « **Reply #30 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 19:06 »

Quote from: ASturge

Olivia Tremor Control have an element of Stoneryness too them i guess...

Olivia Tremor Control just do weird shit. Either way I like them.

Bearer · « **Reply #31 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 19:08 »

Quote from: Disgustipated

Stoner rock doesn't refer to any rock music that people get stoned to :s Explosions in the Sky are not even close to stoner rock. King Crimson and Pink Floyd aren't really either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock

Then whats up with the whole, "Dark side of the Moon to the Wizzard of OZ" thing then?
Still, from what I've heard of them, Kyuss is pretty good, I should probably get another listen in though. My friend described them as "Blues inspired rock with a bit of psychadelic" (and I know I butchered that spelling >.<)

Disgustipated · « **Reply #32 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 19:24 »

Just because some stoner figured it was cool if DSoTM and the Wizard of Oz were played at the same time doesn't make them stoner rock. Its a genre, not a term to explain anything a stoner has listened to.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #33 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 19:24 »

That's basically stoner rock.

In my canon, Stoner rock = generally quite groovy/heavy (in the hippie sense or the sonic sense)/bluesy rock music obnviously inspired by depressant or hallucinogenic drugs. Big umbrella term. Covers a lot of different types of doom metal, psychedelic rock, ultra-heavy blues (the kind of stuff that the first couple of Black Sabbath records really are) etc.

Interestingly, the flipside of stoner rock would probably be thrash and speed metal, which, whilst not directly inspired by drugs were inspired by Motorhead. And we all know the main reason Motorhead played so fucking fast is because Lemmy was and is off his face on speed almost all the time.

Kai · « **Reply #34 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 20:10 »

Isn't Motorhead a term for someone who's on speed? WAY TO BE SUBTLE, LEMMY, JEEZ

Aram · « **Reply #35 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 20:33 »

Well, people screw up genres all the time. They label stuff like Fall Out Boy as Emo and all. Seems quite apropos for them to do it with other genres as well.

Disgustipated · « **Reply #36 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 21:31 »

You're right, and everyone is always trying to classify everything and ech.

Still genretically (lol) speaking, some people have been mentioning bands they probably shouldn't have.

Aram · « **Reply #37 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 22:29 »

Yeah, obviously. It's hard to stay within genre boundries.

Paulbot · « **Reply #38 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 22:40 »

I don't know about you guys, but I always seem to enjoy Deerhoof a lot more when I'm stoned, even if they aren't 'stonerrock' per se.

Paulbot · « **Reply #39 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 22:42 »

I don't know about you guys, but I always seem to enjoy Deerhoof a lot more when I'm stoned, even if they aren't 'stonerrock' per se.

Paulbot · « **Reply #40 on:** 22 Jan 2006, 22:42 »

I don't know about you guys, but I always seem to enjoy Deerhoof a lot more when I'm stoned, even if they aren't 'stonerrock' per se.

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #41 on:** 23 Jan 2006, 00:53 »

I was secretly waiting and praying for this thread all along.

I got into stoner rock via QOTSA, which led me to Kyuss (which is effectively the definitive stoner rock band, seeing as how they're the greatest the genre has ever produced and in some ways were the blueprint for every "stoner rock" band that followed), and onward into all sorts of drug-induced music.

Stoner rock, as far as I can see, contains a great deal of variation. There's the wandering desert rock of Yawning Man and Kyuss's slower tracks, the riff-and-solo sludge metal of early Sabbath and Orange Goblin, the super-heavy, super-distorted monoliths of Electric Wizard and Sleep (I won't even get into SUNN0))), which gave me the single most intense sonic experience of my life at a show once), and the spacier stuff, like Pink Floyd and Hawkwind.

Many of the best stoner rock bands don't even sound like any of these. Dead Meadow, Isis, Masters of Reality, Hypnos 69, Bardo Pond ... each has a VERY distinctive and unique sound and while they're all very obviously drug-influenced heavy rock, it's really impossible to compare them on any other level. It makes it sorta weird to say you enjoy the genre when there are so many things that it could encompass.

Because it might help, I'll post a list of bands I believe to make excellent stoner rock.

Kyuss - Really incredible stuff, just really well-done bass-heavy riff rock with ... oh, just go get an album already.
QOTSA - The closest stonerrock has come to the mainstream ... check out the self-titled debut for the stoner-rock-iest stuff they did.
Masters of Reality - They do everything from Cream-y blues rock to experimental weirdness to acoustic folk, but there's always a joint and a good ear for music involved.
Hypnos 69 - Riff-rock in space with lots of drugs and jazz.
Dead Meadow - Otherworldly guitars doing very heavy and/or psychedelic things. Sounds like a wizard's dream. (Currently my personal favorite band, definitely check them out).
Sleep - Black Sabbath taken to places it should not go. Insanely heavy and slow stuff.
Bardo Pond - Weird and heavy soundscapes mixed with strange vocals and acoustic guitars.
Wolfmother - Everything the 70's did right with rock, except a year old.

For the record, I do a lot of drugs. But I listened to mostly this sort of music before I did any.

almost thursday · « **Reply #42 on:** 23 Jan 2006, 04:28 »

Quote from: Paulbot

I don't know about you guys, but I always seem to enjoy Deerhoof a lot more when I'm stoned, even if they aren't 'stonerrock' per se.

we heard you the first time.

guys, don't use wikipedia to back up yr statements, that shit is wrong like half the time.

negative creep · « **Reply #43 on:** 23 Jan 2006, 06:12 »

Quote from: Aram

Desert rock? Now you're just making stuff up.

actually, i'm not. you seem to like wikipedia, so give it a try...

Aram · « **Reply #44 on:** 23 Jan 2006, 06:23 »

I think I'll check out Kyuss, since everyone seems to think highly of it.

negative creep · « **Reply #45 on:** 23 Jan 2006, 06:59 »

that, good sir, is a very wise decision you made there.

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Aram

almost thursday

El Opium

RUMBLEMOOSE

Outshined

Disgustipated

ASturge

TrueNeutral

normz

Iwan

Cpt.Fantastic

nescience

Aram

Ficus

ASturge

Aram

ASturge

Aram

Aram

Disgustipated

Mr. Oysterhead

Disgustipated

Aram

Disgustipated

Aram

Paulbot

Paulbot

Paulbot

almost thursday

Aram