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Butt_Munki

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« on: 12 Dec 2005, 21:55 »
Does anyone play it? And how much does Island 3 suck ass?
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« Reply #1 on: 12 Dec 2005, 22:46 »
1 or 2?
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« Reply #2 on: 12 Dec 2005, 23:35 »
Gaah...Black and White was a brilliant concept...as a PSP game.  I mean, I'd love a game where you care for and nuture/horribly abuse your beastie.  A perfect follow on to the Tamagotchi(tm) legacy.

The game itself was saddled with too much downtime and busywork.  I got bored throwing flaming rocks at my oppressors to scare them, instead of engaging in impromptu dance competitions and all the things I *really* wanted to do.

This is why it'd make a great distributed MMORPG, like the PSP is set up to do so well.
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ExiledSmarmy

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« Reply #3 on: 13 Dec 2005, 06:09 »
Black and White was revolutionary, especially at the time of its release when unoriginal crap bowed the shelves.  B&W2 is just B&W, with better graphics.  :(

I still love you Peter Molyneux!  Don't use any god powers on me.  Please.
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« Reply #4 on: 13 Dec 2005, 06:28 »
villagers need food.

that game annoyed me... i only lasted 10 minutes with it.
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Mnementh

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« Reply #5 on: 13 Dec 2005, 06:58 »
I hate that you can't skip the tutorial, that killed the replay value for me.
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ramenXnoodles

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« Reply #6 on: 13 Dec 2005, 13:25 »
Yeah you can. Just beat the first island and start a new game, and it will give you 4 different options.
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The Cosmic Fool

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« Reply #7 on: 21 Dec 2005, 20:58 »
Fantastic game. Ended up almost beating it, and having a 65 year old creature.

I kinda' miss the bastard. I trained him well.
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eagle14

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« Reply #8 on: 22 Dec 2005, 20:18 »
ah the memorys, tossing humans, tossing boulders and moving trees
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Micolithe

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« Reply #9 on: 22 Dec 2005, 22:32 »
Black and White 1 was the best game that was not fun.
Black and White 2 is better, but it plays more like Sim City than the first game. And the villagers are incompetent.
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« Reply #10 on: 23 Dec 2005, 03:58 »
I think if you go to the official site you can download a patch that lets you choose where you want to start. I haven't tried it yet but apparently you can skip the tutorial and stay on the island (to build up your creature?) and do the silver scrolls- and there is always a teleport ready- or something like that.
The patch also sorts out a few bugs in later islands and stops worshippers from being as hungry. There are some downsides- the bit where if you do a wood miriacle over a workshop and click really fast so you get loads of wood- doesn't work as well. They also got rid of 'death' everytime someone died (obviously), which was handy before because I tended to sacrifice dead bodies.- Black and White 1 by the way.

Black and White is addictive- but island 3 does suck a bit- especially that monk guy on the hill. For christs sake! You can't see me!
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« Reply #11 on: 25 Dec 2005, 07:08 »
It was a fun game. But the levels we're huge.

Plus once you've done island 3 and you're like "YASSS Finally I got my creature back. The game's fun again!" you get to island 4 where you're creature is like "Actually, fuck you. I'm off to do stuff on my own for this level" and you just have to sit at your village casting the protection spell every two minutes to try and save your temple. Inbetween each casting trying to fly about the Island and complete the level...

Pfft.


I think I might install it again :-)
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« Reply #12 on: 25 Dec 2005, 09:20 »
i'd install it again if it worked on XP
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« Reply #13 on: 25 Dec 2005, 23:29 »
I really enjoyed the first game until the third island, at which point I got pissed off and stopped playing.

The sequel seems to have a lot better gameplay in terms of managing the villages and that sort of thing, so I'm gonna give it a try when I can finally run it.
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« Reply #14 on: 26 Dec 2005, 15:56 »
it's fun planning the cities out to get extra influence


but it's a bit short, i finished it in about 3 days

not constant playing obviously
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« Reply #15 on: 26 Dec 2005, 16:52 »
I just remember how I did the third island quite quickly.

Theres a guy that sits on his own on the beach (near the stupid monks mountain) who you can pick up (even though he's out your area) and throw about. If he lands near a village you are trying to influence you A) Get influence 'cause you just chucked a dude at them and B) have a short amount of time in which to cast miracles or whatever and gain more influence even though it's out your area. you can just keep picking him up and throwing him to every village. :-)
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« Reply #16 on: 29 Dec 2005, 14:19 »
I bought black and white 2 today JUST because of this thread. It was £19.99 and I had £20 in vouchers from Christmas. DAMN YOU QC FORUM!

It should be cool :-)
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ramenXnoodles

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« Reply #17 on: 30 Dec 2005, 10:26 »
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i'd install it again if it worked on XP

It works on XP...
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DarthCat

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« Reply #18 on: 01 Jan 2006, 17:50 »
B&W 2 was underwhelming because of the existence of a few different "formulas" for constructing a city that meant you would always win by virtue of your city's impressiveness. Not that it wasn't fun in the meantime (that is, when trying to derive said formulae), the whole experience just seemed a little short.
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illu45

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« Reply #19 on: 08 Jan 2006, 08:24 »
It does indeed work on XP... I think one of the patches screws it up.

I played the first one... There were some serious problems with it, though. Firstly, the villager/food thing was really annoying. From what I understand, the game used a special algorithm and said that 1 villager needs x food per day... Then, if you didn't have that much, they'd want food. This sounds good on paper, but once you get villages of a couple hundred people, you'd have a ton of food, but id simply wouldn't be enough...

Also, the food vs. children thing annoyed me, too. If you gave your villagers the food they wanted, they'd want children, who would then want more food, and if you gave them more food, they'd want children. Repeat ad neaseum. It may be more realistic that you can never please your village, but its a game, I'm not playing it to be realistic.

I haven't played the second one, although I've heard that its underwhelming at best. Still, I hope they fixed the micromanagment stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: 22 Jan 2006, 13:14 »
I remeber buying this game looking for something really different. Maybe it was just me, but this game sucks. No matter which one I picked, my creature was dumb as shit. His hunger would be at about 30%, so I would give him some fish, and when he ate it, I'd rub him thinking he'd get "Oh, when I'm around 30% hunger, I should eat." Instead he got, "Oh, I get rubbed right after I ate, and my hunger hit 100%. I should keep eating so I get more rubs.

The whole game was way too much effort for not enough reward. I got annoyed with having to constantly feed my villagers, and what's my reward for feeding them? I don't have to feed them for awhile. Oh yeah, great incentive.
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Aram

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« Reply #21 on: 22 Jan 2006, 13:25 »
I've played it, it was pretty cool. I never got into it though. I was playing it for a while, I was pretty evil. My hand went all red and bony and all. It was pretty cool, like I said. I wish I could play it now.
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Jiperlee

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« Reply #22 on: 26 Jan 2006, 23:21 »
I made a massive village in Black and White 1.

Took about 10 minutes for it to load each time, but damn, it was awesome- basically, take your starting point in the second map, and spread from there. Massively.

I even had a city at the "auto heal" thingy you got after doing a sub-mission- had a few 200 year olds in that town.....
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« Reply #23 on: 27 Jan 2006, 10:18 »
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I bought black and white 2 today JUST because of this thread. It was £19.99 and I had £20 in vouchers from Christmas. DAMN YOU QC FORUM!

It should be cool :-)


OH AND BY THE WAY! Damn you to hell.

I paid £19.99 for it and now I have to buy a new graphics card with a pixel shader or something...*mumbles*

:-) it's cool though I guess...I need to do up my computer.
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« Reply #24 on: 29 Jan 2006, 15:27 »
black and white 1 kicked ass. but i never got to play black and white 2. i forgot about that game until now but i think i'll definitely try and buy it once i get ym shit together.
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