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KharBevNor:
You know what, I need to make a shocking admission here.

I barely listen to any pure shred. I don't have any Vai or Satriani, and like one Rising Force record. Tbh, it kinda bores me. I have lots of insane metal, but it's always in context. I mean, Alexi Laiho or Henrik Flyman or Michael Amott or Tipton/Downing can do things with their guitars which make me spontaneously ejaculate with glee, but all the virtuosity for virtuosities sake stuff I've heard is kinda...dull. Maybe this is the making it musical at speed thing. I dunno. All I know is, fuck, opening solo to King Diamond - Waiting. All of Judas Priest - All Guns Blazing or the third minute of Arch Enemy - Angelclaw, or (fuck the rest of the album) the opening of Children of Bodom - Needled 24/7.

Fuck.

Bastardous Bassist:

--- Quote from: Kai ---No. Which is why I added the WOAH at the end. I should have probably thrown in a "PARADOX ZOMG" and "GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIAICIESYIS" for good measure.
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I actually kind of figured that, but I'm not familiar with this whole "post [genre]" terminology, so I was kind of adding something that would allow me to figure out what post rock means, without having to directly ask you and fully expose my ignorance, which I'm doing now anyways.  I do this all the time.  I'll not do something because it'll make me look stupid, but then I'll tell about wanting to do it anyways, which will make me look stupid anyways...

Bastardous Bassist:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---You know what, I need to make a shocking admission here.

I barely listen to any pure shred. I don't have any Vai or Satriani, and like one Rising Force record. Tbh, it kinda bores me. I have lots of insane metal, but it's always in context. I mean, Alexi Laiho or Henrik Flyman or Michael Amott or Tipton/Downing can do things with their guitars which make me spontaneously ejaculate with glee, but all the virtuosity for virtuosities sake stuff I've heard is kinda...dull. Maybe this is the making it musical at speed thing. I dunno. All I know is, fuck, opening solo to King Diamond - Waiting. All of Judas Priest - All Guns Blazing or the third minute of Arch Enemy - Angelclaw, or (fuck the rest of the album) the opening of Children of Bodom - Needled 24/7.

Fuck.
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Well, that's the thing.  Making it musical all requires that the playing fast enhances the music.  So, just playing fast for the sake of playing fast is inherently unmusical!  However, on top of the fact that it needs to enhance the music, it also has to be well-executed with technical facility, a good musical sense, and melody.  No matter how fast something is, it must have melody (which is why I hate it when people describe slow solos as "melodic" solos), unless the point is not to have melody, but very, very little rock has assimilated that concept from concert music.

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