Prediction: next DoA will be 4 panels of Joyce screaming.
It's inevitable (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/inevitable/).
Is she going to punch Sara?
Also, a request. I've only read DoA, so could people not spoil things from other Willis comics?
How?
Something tells me she got thrown out.Probably after she came out to her parents. Thats my guess. :oops:
And/or came out at school. Didn't she go to a very small Christian university, she said? They often have morality clauses.
In an entirely different universe Soggies may rule now.
I'll admit that I was slightly disappointed with the last Shortpacked! ever. But well. It's over.
Over forever? I still haven't read any of it.
If her eyes turn red and she starts speaking in tongues then we'll know.
"poops"
I feel like there's still years to goHopefully.
I feel like there's still years to goHopefully.
This just in: gay people are puppiesEthan says Sasquatch. :-P
What sound does a drama alarm make?
Amazi-Girl really needs to hunt down this Ryan fellow. Really, how hard is it to find a guy with a fresh facial scar?
I really hope they catch Ryan soon, so Joyce can stop worryingI am afraid tha'ts not how this trauma thing works...
Becky, come one. You saying Ethan should of forced himself on her by now?
(Off topic... I freaking hate touch screen keyboards. Loathe them.)
The Google Keyboard is a ducking agile (fucking asshole) about not wanting to swear.
But if you have to do it four times, then it will have so much more feeling in it!That takes on a new, interesting meaning after reading this link Jeph posted on his Twitter account (http://jerkcity.com/_jerkcity737.html).
What? JOYCE
is evolving!
JOYCE evolved
into GOODFRIEND!
Yeah, I don't really care for Becky too much either. I can't even read the comment section on days with Becky because they're always just talking about how wonderful she is. The more I feel like they're trying to make me like her, the more annoyed I am with her. But honestly, there just isn't anything in particular about her that I enjoy. For me, she's primarily annoying. I like the complexity of her back-story and such, but she's the type of person I would not get along with. She reminds me of someone I know, a person that I have referred to as Maleficent on here before. It's not just that they're aggressively assertive about "LOOK AT ME; I'M A LESBIAN." There's a lot of neediness that shows in how they want someone to be paying attention to them every moment of the day. That's something they have in common, and they also are very much about their own needs, especially in terms of "If you have a problem with me being insensitive and rude, then it's just because ~you can't handle me.~" Ugh.
Only the Yakusa 'Apology Method' will redeem themI can't eat sushi. Rice spikes my blood sugar too much. Even brown rice.
And I don't like Sushi. Nothing personal, it's just the way i feel about it.
Becky reminds of a lot of young GLB kids I have met (including myself). It's a whole new world and we tend to be so excited by the fact we can finally be open, that we don't think so much about how much we might annoying the shit out of our friends.* She just needs time to adjust to all the changes in her life and find a nice medium
*This is a condition that one of my friends lovingly refers to as "Baby Gay Syndrome."
Becky is so jelly right now.She looks so jilted and jelly.
Would it even raise an eyebrow at the university to find a TA was having relations with a student? [...] Not to mention it's most likely Sal who would be in trouble if she's underage, which I think she is. "What are you doing here?" "I stopped at the pub and found this student of mine half drunk, so I got her back to her dorm." Some people might not believe him.. but considering he can get the bartenders there to back him up likely that they didn't come in together and Sal was drinking before he showed he wouldn't get in trouble over it.
I wondered if that was the same Kugai over there.
Why doesn't he just use incognito mode?
Why doesn't he just use incognito mode?Or, as I call it, porn mode.
we see C-3P0 first though :-P
I'm intrigued to see Becky's possible new look.
But you still call it porn mode?
Right, it's a knife, not a "meat cutting thing". It does many things.
But you still call it porn mode?
That all depends
I never heard of a RA until Dumbing of Age. But then, I never lived in a university dorm. I don't think they have RAs here, I could be wrong.That all depends
It depends on who's looking, and whether they'll tell.
I'm too new to know these characters that are watching, but I've done what Joyce is doing, sheltered someone in my dorm room against school policy, so I know that it's okay for students to know, but it can't get back to faculty. In my case, it wasn't even a big secret to anybody that knew me or my friend. Then again, we had no RA, just an old guy in charge of the entire dorm as a unit, so it was easier to keep the information out of the wrong peoples' hands.
Nah, just some little Catholic liberal arts college.Hogwarts?
I think I'd like to take a break from DoA and all of its drama, but I compulsively check it because it's one of my only comics that actually updates every day. :S
maybe I just need to find some other long-running webcomics to distract me...
Thanks. :) I'm kind of treading water for the next few weeks, but there's a lot at stake. :/I think I'd like to take a break from DoA and all of its drama, but I compulsively check it because it's one of my only comics that actually updates every day. :S
I've been trying to do the same recently, not for the same reasons as you (and I hope you find a way to cope with your issues--my early-mid twenties kinda sucked too, but hang in there, the mid-late twenties get slightly better, kinda, I think?), but because I spend way too much time compulsively checking updates as well. Same with QC. I wish I had the patience to build up a 1-2 week backlog of strips to read at my leisure, rather than watching Jeph's Twitter and checking the time every few minutes to see if it's 11:01 PM local time yet, but I haven't quite succeeded yet. Although I did manage to take a two-week hiatus during Faye's hospitalization by binge-reading Dumbing of Age, so maybe I just need to find some other long-running webcomics to distract me...
Second on Guilded Age. Also Gunnerkrieg Court, Girl Genius, Waspi Square, El Goonish Shive, Flaky Pastry.. and many more. All excellent comics I've been reading for years and would recommend. Oh, and something called Questionable Content, if you're into that sort of thing...
Have you not read from the beginning of DoA? Why would you jump in without catching up?
Fair enough, it's just weird to me to start in the middle and keep going from where you started instead of going back and catching up, even if that takes a while.
It is for me, too. Never done it before. My job is finishing up tomorrow, I'll likely spend part of my unemployment reading through the rest of it
New strip made me sad and go awww, what do we call that?Saaaawww?
DOOM PARTY."As the Doom Party's nominee for President, I promise that upon entering office, I will start a nuclear war with everyone."
She's just barely coming to terms with the idea that being gay may not be the Worst Thing Ever. If you introduced her to bisexuality at this point her head may go *pop*.Would it really?
Look closely. There's hidden references referencing Book 4 all the way back in Book 1. It's genius.
What future (well, present or less past) event does that predict?
Ah, gotcha. I'm not usually one for binge-reading, but DoA somehow worked out that way. On the other hand, I'm enjoying Gunnerkrigg Court at a nice leisurely pace, and will probably take a few weeks to catch up.
No, see, I began my read-through, then three days later, Danielle announced she was finishing up
No, see, I began my read-through, then three days later, Danielle announced she was finishing up
Not as bad because it was announced a year in advance but when I finally read all of Shortpacked! I finished on the day Willis announced he was ending it.
Ok, who is Dana again?
Also is that just a random girl we've never seen before or is that a character?
I guess maybe this is a setup for Raidah showing that she's changed for the better and apologising? I certainly hope so.
Oh man, you had the worst timing. At least I had a year or so with GwS before it ended. (Unless you did it because it ended.)I discovered Dar Comic 2 weeks before it ended.
The really worrying thing about today's strip really suggests Joyce has some kind of plan in work. It's worrying because Joyce isn't typically any good at that sort of thing.She's truly awful at it, if truth be told.
I personally identify with Dina a lot, she and my younger self have a lot in common. Except when I did similar things, I was read as difficult and when she does it, she's being read as naive but endearing, for the most part.Oh, I'm not the only one who identifies with Dina a lot?
I personally identify with Dina a lot, she and my younger self have a lot in common. Except when I did similar things, I was read as difficult and when she does it, she's being read as naive but endearing, for the most part.Oh, I'm not the only one who identifies with Dina a lot?
To be fair I think Sarah was interested in Jacob. She's just so determined to sabotage all of her relationships that she pushes most people away.
To be fair I think Sarah was interested in Jacob. She's just so determined to sabotage all of her relationships that she pushes most people away.Yeah, I think so, too.
Optimistically, what Raidah is saying in today's comic is that Sarah is toxic to her. Being around Sarah makes her behave in a way she doesn't like and do things that she would normally never consider doing.
Pessimistically, she's trying to slander Sarah to get Jacob's sympathy and aid.
Optimistically, what Raidah is saying in today's comic is that Sarah is toxic to her. Being around Sarah makes her behave in a way she doesn't like and do things that she would normally never consider doing.
Pessimistically, she's trying to slander Sarah to get Jacob's sympathy and aid.
Walky has a near-flawless gaydar/bidar.Ha, there's no way Walky meant it like that.
I really don't get why everyone likes Dina so much. She's such a onenote character
What's wrong with her
What's wrong with her
Walkyverse Dina has implied she is neurodivergent (http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2189).
But what if she's two things or >gasp< three things at once?? (http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2186).
Aha! Caught!He occasionally used Coffee of Doom as a setting in Shortpacked. The tag links underneath those comics contain the tag "Plagiarism of Doom" or something like that. There's another one with Faye in it, that Jeph recognized by putting Amber in a QC comic saying the same line.
Benched, maybe, but Dorothy seems more amused in that last panel than disgusted.
In other news, regarding my quest to complete Shortpacked, CLAIRE appeared in a strip! I was sure it was her on sight, but the only confirmation I could get was that he definitely namechecked Jeph in the post beneath. it wasn't to give credit, though, at least not directly.
Aha! Caught!
Benched, maybe, but Dorothy seems more amused in that last panel than disgusted.
In other news, regarding my quest to complete Shortpacked, CLAIRE appeared in a strip! I was sure it was her on sight, but the only confirmation I could get was that he definitely namechecked Jeph in the post beneath. it wasn't to give credit, though, at least not directly.
He occasionally used Coffee of Doom as a setting in Shortpacked. The tag links underneath those comics contain the tag "Plagiarism of Doom" or something like that. There's another one with Faye in it, that Jeph recognized by putting Amber in a QC comic saying the same line.
as the sliding timescale overcomes that date, assume it's a vacation weekend she has planned for sophomore year
What's wrong with her
What's wrong with herIt's assumed by many, including me, that she has Aspergers Syndrome. Which is part of the Autism spectrum.
Hey! This is Sal, whaddaya expect!
Hey! This is Sal, whaddaya expect!
I still find it strange. Have you played Apples To Apples? It's not the most sexually charged card game out there.
I'm curious for details, but not in a kinky way. Just out of scientific curiosity. This is a bizarre phenomenon.
It was a long time ago. Which is why when Sal sees Amber she's more likely to recognize her as the girl who ambushed her at Walmart a couple days ago rather than the girl who stabbed her years ago.
Sal has already seen Amber near the elevator. Amber flipped out and Sal just stared at her in a confused way and said "weirdo" or something like that. So she clearly doesn't remember.
How much power does a TA really have though? It was my understanding that they really just dealt with the things the teacher was to busy or to disinterested to deal with. I would think the Billie/Ruth relationship is more of a power imbalance than Sal/Jason.
Masterpiece, I don't know your situation, but you seem a decent-enough person that you'd have made it clear this girl wouldn't be receiving any different treatment as far as class is concerned. That's the major problem with that sort of power-imbalanced-relationship, and while the school system might not recognize the difference, a reasonable person would. If reasonable people don't see it as problematic, it's less-likely to be reported, which isn't a promise, but it's better than nothing.
I wish Becky had someone else she is close to, so that she could get some distance between her and Joyce for a bit. This must be painful. (Not that I think Joyce is doing anything wrong here; it's just a shitty situation.)
Billie officially moves to Carla's room
Back to comic: Nooooo, don't leave, Sal! Amber hasn't come back from patrol yet!
Carla occupies a single dorm, most likely because she's trans.Wait, what? When was this established?
No, not anything. Going home would probably be worse.
There has to be a third option. It won't be easy, but she'll probably have to go off on her own at some point. I can't see her going home.No, not anything. Going home would probably be worse.
Yet that's the only other option... Sad.
Going to Leslie might be the best idea at this point.
This could be the beginning of a beutiful friendship
In either case, I'm expecting some sadness (as usual).
All I'm saying is that someone had better start making out soon.
Dina's an Ace.Do we know this for sure?
It's pretty clear from the comic Gladstone posted that she is.Really? I don't think it's that clear.
I'm thinking that Becky isn't really taking any of this in, rather is just enjoying looking at Dina's face whilst not worrying about the noises coming out of her mouth.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/permanent/ (NSFW)You know, I remember being puzzled why that first one would be a hate crime. I never caught on about the trans thing.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/purpleandskates/
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/introductions/ (states that she gets a single room, given the other context, it implies that it's for official reasons)
I think that today's comic has Sal's life at a turning point. If she messes up Malaya, Marcie may dump her, not wanting such a person as her friend. I have a bad feeling that, without Marcie to help her control her impulses, Sal may go off the deep end and try to destroy her own life in a massive acting out for attention and affection.
Naturally, doing this will just ruin her life and leave her future in serious doubt; how many academic suspensions/demerits can she rack up before the college throws her out? I honestly wonder if Sal will be the first would-be suicide that Amazi-Girl talks off a ledge.
Then I remembered what comic we were talking about.Really? You think this comic would go that far?
Then I remembered what comic we were talking about.Really? You think this comic would go that far?
I dunno, Garfield's gone to some pretty dark places. Remember the one where we find out where Garfield hates Mondays? Tragic.
And then they fucked
*Shrug* Anything's possible.
that punch is impossible from that position.You are, however 100% correct. Dammit. Now it's bothering me, too
that punch is impossible from that position.You are, however 100% correct. Dammit. Now it's bothering me, too
I just read every strip Malaya's been in and I still don't get why they hate each other.
Dave has said more than once that what happened in Shortpacked has nothing to do with this universe.But he did say that the sexualities of the characters in his previous comics carries over (e.g. Ethan is still gay)...
I'm wondering if she is potentially a girlfriend to Marcie, not a friend-friend...There. Even if it was a Shortpacked spoiler, apparently :/
HUGS MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER, FUCK ALL THE REST OF EVERYTHING
Stay away, you huggy person. Do *not* attempt to touch the hedgehog.
All about the unconsensual surprise hugs.
But, but! Friend hugs! Frugs!
Stay away, you huggy person. Do *not* attempt to touch the hedgehog.
I thrive on consent. You're cool.
Also, how. Fucking much vodka did Billie bring, that she, walky, AND Dorothy are all fucked up.
New slant:
Praty for Joyce:
Everyone gets smashed. Not cool towards Joyce's beliefs.
And like Joyce, I was raised as a nondenominational fundamentalist (nonaligned Protestant), which means she’s not Catholic.
Also, how. Fucking much vodka did Billie bring, that she, walky, AND Dorothy are all fucked up.
I don't think that Dorothy and Walky are experienced drinkers. Enough hard stuff to knock them out probably would barely make Billie's liver raise an eyebrow!
But Danny and Ethan are bigger.And drunk, right next to each other...
Comic relief can be pretty damn important.
Also wait, why would Sarah be in the same dorm room two years in a row?
Also, Raidah needs to leave now.
Especially since what's inside is made of apples… well, mostly apples.
It was never mentioned. It was a reference to a fictional alcoholic drink in the Discworld 'verse, that is consumed in *very* small amounts, and would require Billie to be using a shiny plastic flask, rather than a metal one.Especially since what's inside is made of apples… well, mostly apples.
*raises eyebrow*
Did we ever get verification of what's in the flask? I figured vodka.
I'm just sayin' chaos, first time in awhile I've been flabergasted by this comic.
Re-reading, I ship Becky-Dinah. I ship Binah.
Re-reading, I ship Becky-Dinah. I ship Binah.
Pfft, it's clearly Dinky.
Also, I, too, did not expect this.
Well.
Let's wait and see if she did that just to prove that she doesn't always act 12, or whether she's actually attracted to Becky.
Let's wait and see if she did that just to prove that she doesn't always act 12, or whether she's actually attracted to Becky.
Wow, people are being unbelievably shitty to Dina.Yeah, I found that pretty off-putting. Everyone's been such a turd lately.
What Joyce said about Dina is pretty much exactly the same as what the girl who was hanging out with Raidah said about Dina when they were at the mall...
Yeah, but look at her face in panel three. I think that means more than her anger.Yeah, Becky is one of the only people so far who genuinely respects Dina as a human being. I think she's flattered, especially since Becky is actually interested in talking about Dina's favorite topics. Nobody has ever (that we know of) expressed an interest in Dina.
At least the dinosaurs are appropriate to the situation
Can RAs really just barge into your room without being let it? I mean, yeah they have a key, but...
Can RAs really just barge into your room without being let it? I mean, yeah they have a key, but...What I'm used to is the RA knocking a few times and saying "RA" loudly and clearly enough for the people inside to hear them. If they're ignored after a few times of that, then they either come back later or, if the situation is serious enough (such as a loud party), then they'll say, "RA, keying in" and open the door. They usually come prepared with the master key in situations like this. But if they get ignored when there are clearly people in there, they can run downstairs to go get it and come back.
God damn it, was it necessary to waste an entire comic to tell us what we already know? (That Ruth is terrible. Fuck you, Ruth.)
Honestly it's more fan fiction than actual prediction. Not a bad thing.So? If someone was posting creepy stuff about Hannelore or inappropriate stuff about Claire, it wouldn't matter if it was fan fiction or prediction.
No, I'm referring to his level of detail, not the contents of his posts.Honestly it's more fan fiction than actual prediction. Not a bad thing.So? If someone was posting creepy stuff about Hannelore or inappropriate stuff about Claire, it wouldn't matter if it was fan fiction or prediction.
Honestly it's more fan fiction than actual prediction. Not a bad thing.
I've yet to see any form of 'fan-fiction' that wasn't both uncreative and an insult to the original author.
All writing is plagarism at least somewhat. But for someone to completely take one writers' characters and go around giving them scenarios and behaviors that the original creator wouldn't want for those characters, as a writer that grinds my gears.
Dammit, Walky, you had best not screw shit up this time
This was a silly thing to say to a small boy at any time. It immediately made him winder what sort of mischief he might get up to.
Oddly enough, I think that the outcome we're moving towards at the moment is Rose realising that she doesn't really know the kids for whom she's allegedly the RA at all! She doesn't know their history, their likes and dislikes or anything! It might make her re-evaluate how she's doing her job and whether she's been letting her own problems make her ineffective.
FWIW, Rose attempting to 'connect' with the students could be funny or horrifying, depending on how it is written.
Now... Am I the only one who was made seriously uncomfortable by the scale of the power trip engaged in by Joyce and Becky's parents? I'm all for not letting kids see >PG films until they have the maturity to deal with them but there is a point where you go too far and that's it. The prohibition didn't even work because it looks like Joyce and Becky thought that their dads were idiots to say that movie or no movie!
I wonder if he's been watching Titanic?
Boy, are these two in for a surprise when they watch Frozen
I wonder if he's been watching Titanic?
Boy, are these two in for a surprise when they watch Frozen
The first half of this was what I thought, but I have no clue what that second bit is trying to say. Why would they be surprised?
Very hot.
No I don't think it's weird I said that.
Well, we know that Ruth will be watching with Billie, and Dina with Becky. Who will Danny watch with (now that he's been forced to): Amber, or Ethan?
He often cuts to a different story when he wants to do a "cliffhanger." I'm guessing some shit is gonna go down when it returns to the main storyline.
Indifferent is the word I'd use :/
Malaya is involved, it's not exactly happy. It's... something?
I do understand Lucy's pain: Explaining fan-art to a non-fan is nearly impossible!<-----Not a fan of fan art.
I also can't exactly blame Marcie for her reaction. Lucy is at least aware enough of other people to realise that she interrupted an attempted moment!
I thought Danny was saying that he was sick of pretending Amber wasn't his girlfriend (because of her alter ego), but maybe I'm giving him too much credit.
Lots of anger on DMW's comments page today. I'm not sure why but I'm wondering if some readers are feeling a disconnect between fundamentally liking and admiring Amber (she's a damaged young woman who wants to turn her injuries into a force for good) and disliking her very rigid morality and stance regarding the letter of the law
I wonder if Danny's pride has made this three-for-three dumpings whilst at college.Wait, what was dumping #2? I can only think of the one that started the comic.
I wonder if Danny's pride has made this three-for-three dumpings whilst at college.Wait, what was dumping #2? I can only think of the one that started the comic.
Wait, his relationship with Billie? I completely forgot that was a thing at all and even thinking about it...nothing comes to mind. I powered through the comic late last year.
*blink* That doesn't count as a relationship at all in my book. It's not even an ONS.
This will be interesting
Maybe she can crash with Dina
Sal and Billie have known each other since childhood so I don't think she'll confuse Billie and Becky.
Yeah.. I don't see how any of this can possibly end well...
Sal and Billie have known each other since childhood so I don't think she'll confuse Billie and Becky.
I've been waiting for Ruth/Billie to blow up in their faces more-or-less since they made what sounded horribly like a suicide pact.Sounded like?
Honestly, who isn't? I know I am.
much younger girlfriendWait, what? I thought Ruth was like...a year older.
I thought Ruth was a sophomore (19-20), junior (20-21) at most. O_______O
Heh, fair enough. I look both younger and older than I am...somehow. It depends on my beard.
I know that Amber has fallen for Danny in a big way but I'm starting to question just how healthy he is for her. It seems pretty clear to me that he's exacerbating the divide between the 'Amber' and 'Amazi-Girl' psyches. I'm not sure that he appreciates just how dangerously damaged that Amber is and is just treating this as a make-believe game with his girlfriend liking to dress up to play dom with him.
Holy shit, Indiana.
Look at Dina's bottom right thought bubble in the last panel.Didn't know she was a Beck fan :wow:
From panel 3, I'm assuming that Becky and Dina smuggled last night.
Well, it looks like Dina has guaranteed a public argument between Danny, Dorothy, Walky and possibily Amber.(http://cdn.queenofwands.net/comics/20031003.jpg)
I, for one, am counting down until Danny looses his patience with Amber's 'secret identity' schtick.
Oh for FUCKS sake Sarah, stop being an ass every three minutes!!!!!!
Well, Dina does have the ability to be ignored. She could probably sit next to Raidah and Jacob and take verbatim notes of their discussion and it isn't a given that they'd even be aware of her presence!
One should definitely not hunt prey in a Triceratops Hoodie.
Triceratops never fought squirrels, your statement is lacking credibility.
This Sarah/Jacob/Raidah story is getting boring. More Dina & Becky shenanigans, please!
I'm wondering if Dina has a conspiracy theorist side to her. It would be funny if she were to interpret a completely mundane conversation as some kind of highly-coded plot being discussed.Well, she has been kidnapped before... (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/kidnapped/)
I don't think Joyce is the right adress to learn about different forms of love.
but better plotted.Arguable.
And, X is also a choice, for asexuals.Asexuals subdivide into romantic, and aromantic. Romantic asexuals will desire relationships with other people, just not have any desire for sex. Aromantic asexuals don't desire any relationships with other people.
And, the Kinsey scale also only includes sexual attraction, not romantic attraction.
"Boy, that sure triggered a lot of MY dopamine receptors! Thanks for helping me trick my body into believing it fulfilled its genetic imperative!"(from http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1109)
Wait, if Dina knows so well how much Danny and Amber were boning... was she in the room when they did it, and they just didn't notice her there? :psyduck:
Wait, if Dina knows so well how much Danny and Amber were boning... was she in the room when they did it, and they just didn't notice her there? :psyduck:
Didn't know there it was spelled aesexual. Is it one of those weird "ae" hybrids?Maybe in Britain it is.
Although part of me wonders why this is such a big deal. I mean, Becky is 18, right?
Granted, if her parents are paying for college, they can easily withdraw her support and pull her out, but...she's still an adult and doesn't have any legal obligation to follow Commandment #__.
I... honestly don't see that happening.
I... honestly don't see that happening.
Which part? My previous post contains two nearly diametrically-opposed options.
Has Becky's dad shown up yet?
Sorry, I meant had. As in, before today. His appearance today is why I asked.Has Becky's dad shown up yet?
Yep; he's in the last panel of today's strip (8/4/15)
At any rate, the preview art Willis posted for November 10th shows that things are about to get very real.
SPOILERS (http://dumbingofage.tumblr.com/post/125868231997/bloomington-ambulances-are-x-treme-nonplayskool)
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I've got this weird feeling that there is something that we're not being told yet. Ross could have legitimately gone to the College Administrators, told them that he was looking for a missing family member and arranged a meeting with Joyce through them...
The point is, why is he even having to ask 'is Joyce Brown a student here'? The Browns would have confirmed it to him if he was still on speaking terms with them. He didn't need to talk to Joyce, only ask Admin to pass to Joyce a message to call him regarding Becky and give them the Browns' telephone number to verify that he is legit.
I'd enjoy this arc more if we hadn't just had the whole parental bad influence thing happen recently.
Sadly, I'm sure Ross will return shortly, as soon as he learns he's been tricked. And probably none to happy about it. At least he's out of the way for a bit so Dina can go warn Becky.
I'm not sure why it's so impossible that Joyce would stand up to Butthole Dad, considering she stood up to her own parents (about being friends with Dorothy) just a week or two earlier.
This might be the most adorable DoA ever.
Another factor compounding things with Becky's relationship with Joyce isn't just the unrequited love angle, but the combination of that with Joyce being who Becky came to cling to for survival.
Jen Aside?
Oh. Does DoA have a forum or do they just have comments? I mean I don't need another forum, just curious.
No, I know, I've seen the comments, I was just wondering if that's all they have. I've never read them though, because I don't know if someone's gonna spoil something from another Willis comic. And also because that's what this thread is for.
More forums makes things hard.
Also, manly squee
It's Ron Swanson squeeing. Which, you know, actually happens a lot.
It's eating beef jerky out of cows it punched itself.
Ha, I guess it is more of a giggle than a squee, but yeah, that's what I was referring to.It's Ron Swanson squeeing. Which, you know, actually happens a lot.
Nick Offerman has the most amazing giggle. Seriously.
I'm not sure if Becky isn't getting a little ahead of herself here with the whole girlfriend thing.I don't think so.
I'm not sure if Becky isn't getting a little ahead of herself here with the whole girlfriend thing.
Whelp, the Joyce is broken. Someone find the reset switch....
I don't remember Dina saying she doesn't like Joyce, when did that happen? Dina hardly seems the sort to want to cause problems with people... The only one I've seen her say she doesn't like is Radiah.
It shall be interesting to see where this latest Joyceventure takes us
That sounds absurdly out of character for Sarah.
this seems a plausible thing to have happened in the past.
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So they're birds of a feather then?
Okay, today's comic is straight up adorable.Right? This whole arc has made "this is the cutest comic yet" meaningless since the next day usually outdoes it.
Now we find if Becky is able to handle being in a relationship with a strong, assertive personality.
I know that DMW wrote this to be cute and funny. However, I can't shake the fear that Dina, totally without meaning to, will end up harmfully dominating Becky just because Becky is used to submitting and suppressing her own desires to please strong personalities.
Put a sock in it BenRG, you're starting to piss people off - even a reasonably tolerant guy like me.
Put a sock in it BenRG, you're starting to piss people off - even a reasonably tolerant guy like me.
Well, given that I'm not even sure what I've said was wrong...
I am still counting on the belief that tomorrow morning, Becky will emerge dressed in the frills and horns of another one of Dina's (presumably numerous) dinosaur hoodies. Because oh my god, the adorable. I'm in absolute favor of a lesbian dinosaur couple being an existing thing in the modern media landscape
I am still counting on the belief that tomorrow morning, Becky will emerge dressed in the frills and horns of another one of Dina's (presumably numerous) dinosaur hoodies.
FWIW, the only reason that I think that's unlikely is because... well, spoilers. I'll leave it at that.Consarn it Benergy, I'm not even sure what you spoiled, but I'm pretty sure you just spoiled something.
FWIW, the only reason that I think that's unlikely is because... well, spoilers. I'll leave it at that.
While her experiences and actions in other universes do not directly impact this iteration of her, Willis has stated that all characters retain their orientation across the multiverse.I'll believe it when I see it. As far as I'm concerned, anything is possible if it hasn't been contradicted by in-DoA stuff.
One is still of their particular orientation regardless if whether or not they have engaged in behavior that reflects it.
No, I think it was ok that she left. Dina doesn't seem to mind :)
Still, it probably says a lot about how much a living hell was that boarding school Sal went to that her first instinct, upon awaking and finding someone leaning over her, is to attack.
Well, we can't be certain that they can't fly :parrot:
This is true. I'm surprised she is so chill about it.. she wasn't so much the idea yesterday. Now it's happening right next to her, even if she isn't looking at the smooches.
Holy fuck I wish I had Dina's parents.
Holy fuck I wish I had Dina's parents.
My mom gives me money to take girls out sometimes. It's pretty neat.
I really like and empathise with Ruth and Billie. They make each other happy in a twisted, unhealthy way so I want to see them both happy and improving. Although I think we're a while from any improvement yet.
Chaos lies.
If I thought Walky was capable of malice I'd kind of hate him for what he said to Joyce.
If I thought Walky was capable of malice I'd kind of hate him for what he said to Joyce.In my opinion, what Joyce said in the last comic is just as tactless. Besides that, Walky is right.
Edit: Oh wait, is that several comics with one continuity? Interesting. I went back to the beginning, I guess that's pre-Joyce and Walky?
It isn't one continuity. Willis has done several series that are in separate continuities, but with the same characters. Wildly different circumstances and rules. DoA doesn't have aliens or super powers in it. Monkey Master and Head Alien are just a cartoon, not the series villains. There is nothing saying that Joyce and Walky are fated to be together in DoA.Sorry, I meant are the three comics that are mentioned on joyceandwalky.com in the same continuity? I know DoA's separate.
It isn't one continuity. Willis has done several series that are in separate continuities, but with the same characters. Wildly different circumstances and rules. DoA doesn't have aliens or super powers in it. Monkey Master and Head Alien are just a cartoon, not the series villains. There is nothing saying that Joyce and Walky are fated to be together in DoA.Sorry, I meant are the three comics that are mentioned on joyceandwalky.com in the same continuity? I know DoA's separate.
So I was a few strips into Roomies and it was December in real life and apparently time actually moves. Weird.
Edit: Wait, he stopped writing for four months? Whaaaaaaaaa?
Edit: WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING. Now I know why people say "damn you, Willis" :(
Edit: WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING. Now I know why people say "damn you, Willis" :(
Wait, Walky was drunk at the party too, why is Joyce only mad at Dorothy?
Is there any indication that this is true?
Sarah outright told Joyce that she'd lose Dorothy if she ever found out about Ethan being gay, though.
Today's comments section contains some huge spoilers about the Walkyverse.Luckily I don't look at the comments (I have this thread, after all) but wow, that's super shitty of today's commenters!
Today's comments section contains some huge spoilers about the Walkyverse.
Luckily I don't look at the comments (I have this thread, after all) but wow, that's super shitty of today's commenters!
Hoh Shit.If knowledge of one event ruins two seasons of a TV show, then it's not a good TV show.
I guess I can take the last two seasons of Breaking Bad off my Netflix queue.
Hoh Shit.If knowledge of one event ruins two seasons of a TV show, then it's not a good TV show.
I guess I can take the last two seasons of Breaking Bad off my Netflix queue.
Breaking Bad was a good TV show. Watch the last two seasons and you'll enjoy them. (Or is that a spoiler too?)
I'm beginning to wonder if the whole dinosaur fixation is just a defensive behavior that Dina uses to keep those confusing, incomprehensible and, occasionally, even frightening and painful humans at arms' length. Becky is the first person likely for a long time that Dina has let past that wall.Well, she has stated before that she prefers Dinosaurs over Humans because they are extinct and thus fixed in time and not constantly changing.
Or she's a socially awkward person who genuinely really likes dinosaurs.
Except that's what she wants to do.Or it's what she thinks she wants because she wasn't really taught she had other options.
Except that's what she wants to do.Or it's what she thinks she wants because she wasn't really taught she had other options.
Why would that happen? It's kind of shitty to assume just because he's bi he'd leave Amber.
Edit: Whoa, I thought yesterday's comic was today, when I actually hadn't checked today...never mind!
I...
I'm sorry, did I follow a link to Shortpacked! by mistake? If I didn't know that it was Dumbing of Age, it would have been indistinguishable from dozens of similar interactions between them in the older strip.
Beating the shit out of people is also illegal and a far more serious crime than underage drinking, but she has no qualms about meting out copious amounts of violence over misdemeanor offenses.*frowns* are you sure? I was under the impression she only dealt out violence in self-defence, or against Sal (and her gang) or her father.
Beating the shit out of people is also illegal and a far more serious crime than underage drinking, but she has no qualms about meting out copious amounts of violence over misdemeanor offenses.
*frowns* are you sure? I was under the impression she only dealt out violence in self-defence, or against Sal (and her gang) or her father.
I'm really worried about Sarah. Her anger, resentment and desire to beat Raidah could lead her to a very, very dark and dangerous place.This is the rare occasion where I agree with your pessimistic prediction.
I've found that some people look for a cause to condemn Amazi-Girl because they find her strict 'obey the Law' ethos offensive or subconsciously threatening, especially when it comes to alcohol.
As far as your conclusion about why certain people condemn her, do you real "find" this or do you simply draw that conclusion based on your own unsupported assumptions?
Empirical evidence. No-one cared about Amazi-Girl's behaviour and, indeed idolised her for it (several were upset that she didn't murder her father). Then she took a stand against breaking Indianna's (admittedly strict) underage drinking laws and she was a vicious, violent and dangerous hypocrite to the point where they exaggerated and even made up stuff about her violent behaviour. The conclusion pointed to itself.
Has he never seen her smile or something? (pause) Has anyone ever seen her smile?
Has he never seen her smile or something? (pause) Has anyone ever seen her smile?
I think no. Not even a malicious smile, that I recall
I am so fucking confused.She tried to feign being cheerful because she thinks that is what Jacob wants, but realized she can't do it. She can't pretend to be someone she's not in order to win over a boy. Rightfully so. But at the same time she's sad cos she thinks she blew her chances.
That's the Mike we all knowYep
I wonder why Walky and Sal are in the same class. You'd think Walky would've taken AP classes in high school.
Maybe my school was different but honors classes were worth more to your GPA than standard, and high honors/AP were worth even more.I wonder why Walky and Sal are in the same class. You'd think Walky would've taken AP classes in high school.
I have a feeling that part if why Walky was so successful in highschool is that he never did more than he had to. Being in NHS doesn't mean you're in advanced classes, just that your GPA is high. You can do that by just taking easy classes.
Yeah, I'm (almost) alone in the echoey lobby of my community college and I audibly chuckled, catching the attention of the one other person in the room. She gave me a weird look, but I can't explain why Mike knowing things is bad news for Walky
Yeah, I'm (almost) alone in the echoey lobby of my community college and I audibly chuckled, catching the attention of the one other person in the room. She gave me a weird look, but I can't explain why Mike knowing things is bad news for Walky
Because Mike also knows Walky wants to keep that a secret. Which means Mike has a way to torment Walky, whenever he so chooses. And since it's Mike, he will use that. It's pointless to even ask him to keep it quiet, that will just make him want to torment Walky even more.
I do think that the time has come for Sal to actually talk to Joyce about how she’s always pestering her and her feelings about it. Joyce isn’t stupid and she isn’t socially unaware and would actually ease off if Sal asked her to do so. The problem is that Sal isn’t comfortable with interacting with people outside of her tiny circle and typically tries a strategy of avoidance and antisocial behaviour to try to drive them away. Unfortunately, Joyce simply doesn’t get it; she needs to be told.
The thing is? I have a sneaking suspicion that, if they get to actually talking, Joyce and Sal may have a lot of surprises in store for each other. Neither of them will get what they want from the conversation but they may get things that they need.
Possibility: Joyce will be hanging out with Sal in town, learning more of her real like (as opposed to the cool illusion), so ToeDad can’t find her in campus when she returns.
This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship
...
Or a complete train wreck
Come on Sal, ya can see she's not doing too well there.Well yeah, that's why she came back. Maybe she does care after all.
Wait, Joyce was the wang drawer?When I saw this comment I didn't realize that "drawer" was being used as "one who draws" and not "a retractable container." :psyduck:
I fixed it. I meant why does Joyce hate Walky.
I fixed it. I meant why does Joyce hate Walky.
I think Joyce might be exaggerating her feelings to try to curry favor with Sal, but during just about every other interaction between Joyce and Walky he, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not, says something that scandalizes or angers her.
THE LIMIT DOES NOT EXIST
They can be some of the nice characters from that movie.THE LIMIT DOES NOT EXIST
DINA AND BECKY ARE NOT MEAN GIRLS, METHOD, DON'T YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON THEM
Fuck
I won't spoil tomorrow's strip, but just remember, that Becky and Dina didn't see him grab the gun when they scarpered.
I.. really didn't expect things to go there. I think we seriously underestimated how warped Ross is.Yeah, the general consensus here seemed to be "well, at least he's not as bad as Amber's dad" and then holy shit he's worse.
I'm hoping someone in that group of people in the background has called the Cops. It'll be interesting to see who Joyce has Texted.
I'm hoping someone in that group of people in the background has called the Cops. It'll be interesting to see who Joyce has Texted.
You didn't think this comic was surreal before today?
How is it sillier than Amazigirl?
See, BenRG, you take it as ridiculous that Ross would have seen Jurassic Park, I take it as evidence he at least saw it himself before declaring it ungodly. Whether he's making the reference intentionally, that's actually up for some debate, because it's not necessarily just a reference; it's a full, logical statement, considering Dina has just outwitted him. It's probably a reference, but it might not be one he's making consciously.Religious people don't need to see/read things before declaring them ungodly. You hear them talking about Harry Potter teaching witchcraft is good and that's ungodly, and you know they haven't read Harry Potter. You hear them criticize Dogma for things that weren't in the film, and you know they haven't seen Dogma. You hear them talking about satanic rock music, and you know they haven't listened to the music.
Either way, it's happened, it's canonical, and it's pretty obviously a matter of pacing out the strip and giving Becky the chance of getting to the fountain. I agree with your point about Dina; I don't see her coming out of this unscathed, though I don't know if her injuries will be nearly fatal.
Any case, it appears the gun is out of his grasp, which is a good sign.
See, BenRG, you take it as ridiculous that Ross would have seen Jurassic Park, I take it as evidence he at least saw it himself before declaring it ungodly. Whether he's making the reference intentionally, that's actually up for some debate, because it's not necessarily just a reference; it's a full, logical statement, considering Dina has just outwitted him. It's probably a reference, but it might not be one he's making consciously.Religious people don't need to see/read things before declaring them ungodly. You hear them talking about Harry Potter teaching witchcraft is good and that's ungodly, and you know they haven't read Harry Potter. You hear them criticize Dogma for things that weren't in the film, and you know they haven't seen Dogma. You hear them talking about satanic rock music, and you know they haven't listened to the music.
Either way, it's happened, it's canonical, and it's pretty obviously a matter of pacing out the strip and giving Becky the chance of getting to the fountain. I agree with your point about Dina; I don't see her coming out of this unscathed, though I don't know if her injuries will be nearly fatal.
Any case, it appears the gun is out of his grasp, which is a good sign.
It's not that he'd care, but that people would be around to stop him.
Becky is going to be an orphan.Wait, her mom is dead? When was that covered?
Becky is going to be an orphan.Wait, her mom is dead? When was that covered?
Never before has a webcomic made me so nervous to see every update. God damn you, Willis.
And where is Dina?
Unless Willis is lying, Dina will live (he has repeatedly said that he will NOT be killing any of the main cast on Tumblr). But that doesn't mean nothing got broken, or that she won't get seriously hurt.
And where is Dina?
And where is Dina?
Probably still lying unconscious in the woods where Ross cold-cocked her.
Or Ross has her in the car.
It's not a matter of putting it past him, it's a matter of it slowing him down so he couldn't catch Becky. Also, I suspect him of not really planning ahead.
I can't see this ending except as a tragedy. The tragedy will be that Becky's last memory of her father alive will be the look of self-righteous hatred in his eyes when he decides to kill her, a split-second before the Bellwood police shoot him dead.Where is Bellwood, and why are their police in Bloomington? :roll:
Now I'm sure that he killed Becky's mother. It might have been an accident; he may have just lost control in a moment of rage or passion and, as with this current scenario, just not been thinking stuff through to their logical conclusion.
I'm more surprised by all the people just milling around the fountain when a guy with a gun is screaming at two girls. Or at least talking angrily. It took the gunshot to make them react instead of people starting to back the heck away once they saw the gun.
I'm more surprised by all the people just milling around the fountain when a guy with a gun is screaming at two girls. Or at least talking angrily. It took the gunshot to make them react instead of people starting to back the heck away once they saw the gun.
I hope you don't film those. Filming people without their permission is kinda shitty.I'm more surprised by all the people just milling around the fountain when a guy with a gun is screaming at two girls. Or at least talking angrily. It took the gunshot to make them react instead of people starting to back the heck away once they saw the gun.
I'm not. I'm in a theatre for social change class where we recently did invisible theatre projects (think of "What Would You Do," except you don't actually tell other people it's a performance, unless you have to prevent the police being called or something). People are really, really unobservant, especially when they're walking to class.
I hope you don't film those. Filming people without their permission is kinda shitty.I'm more surprised by all the people just milling around the fountain when a guy with a gun is screaming at two girls. Or at least talking angrily. It took the gunshot to make them react instead of people starting to back the heck away once they saw the gun.
I'm not. I'm in a theatre for social change class where we recently did invisible theatre projects (think of "What Would You Do," except you don't actually tell other people it's a performance, unless you have to prevent the police being called or something). People are really, really unobservant, especially when they're walking to class.
if someone is trying to force you into a car at gunpoint, even in a public place, you fight them tooth and nail, 'cos at least that way, you'll die more quickly.
He did say that he hadn't hurt anyone. I think he's a terrible person, but I didn't think he was lying about that.He wouldn't necessarily be lying. He's large enough he could simply pick her up and stuff her in the trunk of the car...
I'd say staying is considerably more dangerous.
SPOILER about Dina (http://dumbingofage.tumblr.com/post/131265907762/january-28-2016-rest-easy) from Willis's tumblr. Try not to click it, I dare you.
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Staying strong...not easy.
and Jeph's only posting bonus strips if his Patreon goes over ten grand a month, which it hasn't lately, so what's the point?), so I stopped supporting Jeph and upped my donations to Willis instead.
"Who am I? I am Joyce Brown, Christian, daughter of Hank and Carol Brown. I am the right hand of vengeance and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to La Porte, Mr McIntyre! I am death incarnate, and the last living thing that you will ever see. God sent me."
Oh...why is she called Perfect Cinnamon Roll?
Yeah, but how would Joyce know about Tumblr? Does Joyce tumble?Oh...why is she called Perfect Cinnamon Roll?
It's an Onion article (http://www.theonion.com/article/beautiful-cinnamon-roll-too-good-for-this-world-to-35038) that later turned into a Tumblr meme to describe favorite characters. Or something.
So, one thing that the comments over on DoA have come up with...(click to show/hide)
So, one thing that the comments over on DoA have come up with...(click to show/hide)
As expected, the filth are more concerned about shots being fired than a young woman being kidnapped by an abusive piece of shite.
I think you are all missing the most important part. Joyce just cursed.
And, as the comments over there pointed out, as far as things go for Joyce, "god damned" is likely a far worse swear than "fuck", because of the way that it takes the lord's name in vain.
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This can't end well for Amazigirl.
Is that speculation or an ACTUAL spoiler? A request for everyone to actually specify so people know which are safe to read.
Shit
Shit
Shit
Shit
Shit
That is all.
Seriously, though, was that red car in the same lane? Just...closely following a car that was merrily pulling a skateboarding costumed superhero behind it? What the heck? I mean, I know they're on/near a college campus, but you see what looks like some college kids pulling weird shit like that, don't fucking tailgate, all right?
RIP Amber/Amazi-Girl.
Some of the speculation of late has been around teaser images that Willis has posted on his Twitter account. The information is publicly available, but it was presented without context. So people have been speculating what this future event may mean and who it's going to affect. That's spoiler-worthy speculation.Even if it's publicly available, it's still a spoiler. So talking about it without a spoiler tag is very rude. Basically keep your speculation to comics that have "aired," so to speak.
Of course it does seem that he wants to die defending his conception of an ideal family, mostly because death is easier than facing the consequences of his actions in front of the human authorities.
Of course it does seem that he wants to die defending his conception of an ideal family, mostly because death is easier than facing the consequences of his actions in front of the human authorities.
He's thoroughly messed up, yes, but I doubt that he'd think that facing any non-human authorities that he happens to believe in is going to go much better for him.
The physics going on here make zero sense whatsoever.
He's not in his right head, and he's looking at multiple felony charges. Even if Becky doesn't pursue kidnapping charges against him, and she probably won't, I can't count the number of other crime's he's committed in the last oh, half hour or so.
Was bringing a gun to a campus a felony per se?
They are all going to die.Well, that happens to everyone, sooner or later.
The physics going on here make zero sense whatsoever.
Well...that happened.
I don't understand how any of these scenes work. It's as if the laws of physics have been rewritten.
I don't understand how any of these scenes work. It's as if the laws of physics have been rewritten.
No, rather, it is that they do not apply except when they are convenient for the author/artist.
Ok, that was cooler than all of Amber and Sal's antics combined.
Am I the only one who finds the alternate cuss-words that Joyce and Becky use actually quite cute in a way?
Is Sal even aware that it was Amber that stabbed her all those years ago?
if you're not hearing the fred flintstone skidaddle in panel four you're doin' it wrong
I think Dorothy is overreacting
I didn't know you personally dealt with it. I apologise for my quick reaction. The comment, without the knowledge, plus the previous term "a little OCD" bothered me. Finding ways to cope personally is valid and important but I mistook it for the common way people who don't deal with mental illness generalise and mock mental health issues.
Yay, Dina's not dead!Most of that sequence, the framing is actually from Dina's perspective.
Hannelore from QCI looked up other Hannelores, at first to give a smartass "as opposed to Dr. Hannelore von Kamprad from Hitman 2: Silent Assassin?" (the only other fictional one wiki listed). Then I got curious how common a name it was. Out of six real life Hannelores I found, five were German and one was Belgian. The most popular profession is politician.
Method, are you suggesting Hanners run for presidentWould she be eligible (age aside)? Was Station over the US when she was born?
Would she be eligible (age aside)?
Oh, I know, I'm saying it would've been ok if you'd said that yesterday as long as you'd spoilered it.
Aye, he does. Sal's bit with AG changed when AG first woke up. There are other differences, as well.Dang. Now I'm glad I don't see the advanced ones if I'd have to end up waiting for the real one.
I don't get that reference.
it's Walky.Roll credits!
I want him to get out of prison as someone too old and decrepit to even *hold* a gun, and sees Becky and Dina happily married, with Dina being a paleontologist, and Becky as an evolutionary scientist. That'd be the best torture possible.
Well, if it was me, Toedad just made it a whole lot easier to continue pressing charges and cutting him out forever.
I'm pretty sure that's Carla, not Ruth.
Joyce is frowning pretty hard :(
Welp. (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/break/)
I foresee a major crisis comingI hope this isn't mean, but do you ever not? I get that it's Willis, but how do you enjoy a comic if you always assume things will go bad?
I foresee a major crisis coming
I hope this isn't mean, but do you ever not? I get that it's Willis, but how do you enjoy a comic if you always assume things will go bad?
I think these two have earned the nickname Crash and Burn.
Dina, I'm pretty sure most people still don't expect you to talk.
Thanks...I suppose.
I suppose the alternative "worthless, horrible minds think alike" wouldn't be that flattering*.Thanks...I suppose.
That's about the only possible response, but I swear, it was me being self-effacing, not trying to put you down.
I never got that 'joke,' really. It's based on the speaker claiming they've got a great mind. I am not so arrogant.
Would Amber be a Daria fan if she saw it?
This is a watershed moment for Danny and Amber. He's finally realized just how sick his girlfriend is and, to his credit, he isn't running for the hills. A lot now depends on how he expresses himself and whether Amber is able to accept what he is offering her.
Holy what the hell happened.
Why do I keep reading this :psyduck:I quit for like 2 weeks a while back, but morbid curiosity brought me back to it. I'm more or less in a quitting phase currently. Trying to wean myself off it because it's really just ... not my thing anymore, you know? I haven't enjoyed reading it in ages.
...what did she do, though? I honestly don't remember.She's just generally judgemental and unpleasant. She hates everyone and everything that doesn't fit into her extremely narrow view of her religion. So far this has only manifested as rudeness, scowling, and glares, but primarily only because she has thus far lacked the power to do more.
She also probably knows about Ruth and Billie.
Who is Mary again? Also why is she horrible? (I know who she is in this comic, I just mean who is she in general)
Joyce, no. It would not work. Do not bang her. This should not be the next slipshine.
Joyce is broken. All the people who were looking forward to it are now heartbroken.
Joyce, no. It would not work. Do not bang her. This should not be the next slipshine.
I am still completely befuddled as to whether Dorothy
a) is bisexual
b) has homoerotic tendencies towards Joyce
c) really believes Joyce has a crush on her
d) would really have sex with Joyce if the opportunity arose
I wonder why Dinosaur BBQ doesn't make a bigger deal that they serve dinosaur.
I believe they call those 'lesbians'.
A guy who sleeps with a lot of women is sexy and virile and studly. A woman who sleeps with a lot of men is slutty and not marriage material.@sit and/or spin- Of course it is, but we're talking about people who think this is solid logic.
Doyce and Woe.
You know, I usually enjoy DoA, but these past few Months have been so depressing that I'm starting to lose interest in reading. It doesn't have to be jolly and fun all the time, but damn. This is bumming me out.
You know, I usually enjoy DoA, but these past few Months have been so depressing that I'm starting to lose interest in reading. It doesn't have to be jolly and fun all the time, but damn. This is bumming me out.Same. That's why I've been trying to quit. Morbid curiosity keeps bringing me back after a few days. But I don't feel like I'm getting anything of value from reading it. It's just aggressively sad without any happy endings in sight. Just about everything is going downhill. The only person in a good position is Becky, because she has a chance to start over. But that's after the horrifying Toe-Dad plot, so I'm not sure Becky's situation counts for much here.
The current strips were written months ago and logically follow the situations setup from the beginning.I never said it wasn't logical or not believable. It absolutely is. But, honestly, that makes it worse, because I know that this is a fairly realistic situation that real people somewhere are going through right now.
It feels like "I had a crappy experience, so everyone needs to have a crappy experience equal to or worse than mine. Everyone must suffer. Every little bit of light must be extinguished." And I don't mean that in the "laughing maniacally sense"--I mean it in the sense of a sullen Willis curled over his drawing as he thinks about how miserable he was growing up.
I kinda saw it as being dismissive, like in the sense of the activity not mattering in the long run or being otherwise pointless. After all the crap she's been through, especially with seeing people go from good to horrible in the blink of an eye, this seems pretty insignificant.
But looking back at it and thinking about Joyce's expression, it seems like she has a lot on her mind and knows that Dorothy will take care of everything since she's an overachiever-type like me.You know, I usually enjoy DoA, but these past few Months have been so depressing that I'm starting to lose interest in reading. It doesn't have to be jolly and fun all the time, but damn. This is bumming me out.Same. That's why I've been trying to quit. Morbid curiosity keeps bringing me back after a few days. But I don't feel like I'm getting anything of value from reading it. It's just aggressively sad without any happy endings in sight. Just about everything is going downhill. The only person in a good position is Becky, because she has a chance to start over. But that's after the horrifying Toe-Dad plot, so I'm not sure Becky's situation counts for much here.
It feels like "I had a crappy experience, so everyone needs to have a crappy experience equal to or worse than mine. Everyone must suffer. Every little bit of light must be extinguished." And I don't mean that in the "laughing maniacally sense"--I mean it in the sense of a sullen Willis curled over his drawing as he thinks about how miserable he was growing up.
That much is true! I think it could stand to be spaced out a bit more. It kinda sucks, in a general sense, that this much bad stuff is happening all at once. It's exhausting for me as a reader, and I'm not sure that this grueling awfulness is okay for me as a reader. It's not that the things can't and shouldn't happen--it's that they deserve a short break between terrible things.
It feels like "I had a crappy experience, so everyone needs to have a crappy experience equal to or worse than mine. Everyone must suffer. Every little bit of light must be extinguished." And I don't mean that in the "laughing maniacally sense"--I mean it in the sense of a sullen Willis curled over his drawing as he thinks about how miserable he was growing up.
Or maybe he's just telling an important story about important issues that real people go through.
But what would be her Callsign?
I'm being conscientious. It might be a spoiler, so I decided to be careful rather than reckless lest others whine about untagged spoilers.Why do you always act like it's unreasonable to not want to be spoiled?
Well, I understand why DMW turned off comments. The thread for today's strip (20/1) would likely have been a blast-furnace otherwise! That said, the only thing that occurs to me is this: How did Mary know? Did she know Carla pre-transition or has she got a contact in administration who passes the juciest gossip on about her peers?My guess is this (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/allowed/) is when she found out...
I'm pretty sure that it's Mary who will have to start worrying about if she will continue to have femurs. Ruth might even know where a convenient pit of quicklime is located. The way things have been going, the "breather" strips were evidence that something horrible would be coming.(click to show/hide)
Word of Author is definitely valid for his works.You are welcome to think so, and I won't say you're wrong. But that's hardly absolutely true.
Well, I understand why DMW turned off comments. The thread for today's strip (20/1) would likely have been a blast-furnace otherwise!
As an RA Ruth cannot catch everything, as a resident Mary should have reported any illegal activity. Also I am not sure what Ruth would get in trouble with when it comes to having Billie over. Alcohol maybe if they caught it on her, otherwise its Mary's word against Ruth's.
I feel this is just an athiest coming of age comic at this point (which technically makes sense seeing as Willis says Joyce signified him growing up).
Same reason I hated "Divergent"*. When a point is being made in a seemingly lazy fashion, it is a turn off. Every significant Christian in this comic - besides Joyce - is shown to be overly flawed, with seemingly little objectivity (even with Joyce, shown to be aggravatingly naive at best).
Every significant Christian in this comic - besides Joyce - is shown to be overly flawed, with seemingly little objectivity (even with Joyce, shown to be aggravatingly naive at best).
... everyone (in my view) is a caricature of a Christian stereotype in this universe.
Every significant Christian in this comic - besides Joyce - is shown to be overly flawed
Oh come on Becky. How can you possibly think this was a good idea?
Huh. I thought both of Joyce's parents were unpleasant and intolerant? Wasn't her dad the one who raised a stink over Dorothy being an atheist? Or was it just her mom? I guess I need to reread that Parents' Day storyline...
If you're looking for the reasonable, good-hearted fundamentalist with the temperament of the Dalai Lama, and you haven't found her yet, maybe Mr. Willis just hasn't met that person yet.
Next comic: Amber hears a screech of tires, looks out the window just in time to see an unfamiliar car peel out of the parking lot, Becky in the passenger seat just barely hanging on for dear life.
“Fuck, AGAIN?!”
The way Dorothy defines her relationship with Walky worries me for some reason. I think that it's how she expects him to be dumb comic relief that irks me.
I hope for Joye and JoyceDad bonding time, but I'm not looking forward to JoyceMom's appearance. From what I've been able to tell, she's the real radical in the family, especially now that Joyce is doubting. If, as Hedgie is predicting, something negative will happen in the coming strips, which, let's be honest with ourselves, is most likely, I think it would most probably be as a result of Joyce's mom doing something horrible and unforgiving. I don't think Joyce's dad would be the most likely target, I'm more worried about Becky.That's what's going to make it harder on Joyce: if both her parents were like her mom, it would be easier for her to break away from them. But what's going to happen is that she'll realize her mom is terrible, but her dad is a good person. This will be hard on her, because she can't break away from her mom without hurting her dad in the process.
It is entirely possible that this will serve as a (relatively) pleasant interlude from the situation happening at the university.
Maybe this will inspire her to learn to do her job properly?
At least their relationship is based on something more than just hot sex and a shared love of Whiskey.
:-D
Right, because her father is in prison because she's a lesbian...and not for armed kidnapping, apparently.
I found myself wondering how long this whole Becky mess has been going on, so I went and checked.
Here's where she shows up at Joyce's dorm:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/angel/
Please note that the date is October 29, 2014. No wonder it feels like Becky's been here forever!
Carry on!
Two things:
A) holy shit, Becky was introduced on my birthday?!
Ideally, Ruth will make a big production right at the start of the meeting that Mary told her there is a non-student living in the dorms against the rules, and that she (Ruth) will find out who it is. Ruth gets to maintain her 'Ruthless' reputation by making it sound like horrible things will happen to Becky, and the blame for her finding out about it will fall straight on top of Mary's head. Becky is apparently well liked by the other girls in the hall, and they've been watching out for her, those that know she's living there. So I'd be willing to bet there would be more than a few angry people looking to get some payback, or at least treat Mary with a fair bit of hostility. More than she already gets, at any rate.
This would also pull the teeth on half the threat she's holding over Ruth, that Becky was living there and Ruth isn't doing anything about it... But publicly stating now that Ruth does know about it, she'll deal with it in some non-specified by likely unpleasant way. Billie is clearing out of Ruth's room, and the booze has been removed, so even if Mary goes to the faculty about the two of them, it will pretty much come down to her word vs Ruth's. And Ruth has said that staff loves her because she runs a tight ship. She can also point out that Mary is a trouble maker, and suggest she's just trying to get back at Ruth after being caught using transphobic slurs to another student... Basically, unless Mary can provide evidence that Ruth was doing wrong, going to the staff is going to go bad for her, not for Ruth.
Edit: I very much approve of the overhaul Willis did of this strip before it went live. Much funnier.What'd he change?
The sticks are not what they seem
The final panel wasn't there, and he altered the dialogue across the other panels to make it flow better and make it funnier.Edit: I very much approve of the overhaul Willis did of this strip before it went live. Much funnier.What'd he change?
What gets me is the Twilight poster above Joyce's bed. I mean really? Her parents let her see that movie?
Hell, we don't even know if Willis knows yet.
I'm a her, BTW.
Is hate-missing still missing?
We won't see any more of Friday evening. Each storyline/chapter generally covers one day in-universe, so the next 100-200 strips will deal with Saturday and Sunday.Oh, "storyline" just means day? Interesting.
We won't see any more of Friday evening. Each storyline/chapter generally covers one day in-universe, so the next 100-200 strips will deal with Saturday and Sunday.Oh, "storyline" just means day? Interesting.
For some reason, Carol is starting to look more and more like a toe every time she says something.
I think hedgie means the real Mount Baldy.
Who says she can't run? Grab the clothes and get out of there. She's got a reputation as the "shut-in nerd chick" anyway, nobody will think twice about that reaction.
This could go either way.
I don't think he could stop her even if he wanted to Sal.
And I think Sal's a bit biased about this.
Considering that Sal has mostly seen Amazigirl doing some *really* dangerous shit and had to save her kinda makes Sal the rational one here.
Am I the only one who shivered in dread upon reading Amazi-Girl, the likely DID-suffering costumed adventurer of DoA, telling Walky that 'her voices' shout at her?
Willis's insistence that none of the major cast will die in DoAA. That's kind of a spoiler, but I blame Willis, not you.
Well, not much of a spoiler, but since Method took issue with itWell I mean it's already out there so whatever at this point. Also like I said, I was objecting to Willis giving spoilers (which honestly that really isn't because who knows if a comment means anything), not Benergy's post.
Wait, Joyce doesn't know? I'm so confused.Correct, Jocelyn only told Ethan in comic. Considering how sheltered Joyce was, do you really think Jocelyn would risk telling her and letting it get back to the parents?
- I wonder what Joyce's problem is with Indian food? Too spicy, maybe?
I've got several thoughts arising from today's strip (3/30).The more I think about this, the more I wonder if you might be right... it would be an interesting parallel to Billie's "boyfriend" situation...
- Why has Joyce never met Christi? Is it because her parents disapprove of John having married a non-WASP? Or, worse (from their perspective) is that a pet name for Christopher?
You can use the tag links below the comic to find people (and a + sign in the URL to search for more than one). For example: http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/jocelyne+becky/
- Someone with more archive-fu on DoA would have to instruct me but I'm not sure if we've ever seen Jocelyn and Becky on-screen together; I'm just wondering if Becky had confided in her. that Jocelyn has known Becky's orientation for some time and has been encouraging her, from her own bitter experience, that it is better to come out sooner rather than later;
Wait, who is Jordan? I didn't realize Jordan wasn't Jocelyn until just now.
So Christi and John do missionary work...I wonder if thats a cover...Based on today's comic, I'm gonna say no.
John's a fucking scumbag who somehow gets considerably worse with each comic.
I quite like Jocelyn's as well.
It would appear that Walky is eternally damned to be surrounded by strong, assertive women that can kick his ass.
It's his curse
If you ask me Walky crossed a dangerous line here. Before, he was just not telling Dorothy something. Now he lied to her.
It's his cursive:claireface:
It always seemed to me that she is indifferent towards pretty much everyone on campus (with the exception of her soft spot for Joyce), but she actively hates Malaya.A combination of Malaya's abrasive confrontational attitude and the fact that she's "stealing" Marcie away from her.
Am I the only one who is traumatized by the thought of Dina sexting? :-oIf by 'traumatized' you mean 'highly amused' then no.
When you consider, as Dina pointed out in yesterday's comic, all her texts have to go through Joyce, the possibilities for amusement get even greater.
*Cue The Good, The Bad & The Ugly soundbite*The Good, The Not-so-bad, and the Oblivious?
The Not-so-badCouldn't this apply to either Sal or Amber?
I left it intentional ambiguous, with the oblivious being Danny of course.The Not-so-badCouldn't this apply to either Sal or Amber?
Is Danny about to get in trouble for talking to someone he has no idea Amber has a bad history with?So Danny doesn't know? Ok, good, I was worried I'd forgotten.
Amber is... well being her borderline psychotic self. It makes me wonder how long Danny will put up with her randomly raging like that at him.Sad thing is after these last couple of comics, it seems as though Amber is starting to become that apple a bit close to the tree.
She's always been her father's daughter, that's why she created Amazi-Girl in the first place. That was a mistake, of course. Rather than confront and attempt to control her violent impulses, she just channeled them into an alternate personality that she could use to assuage her guilt. After all, it's not Amber doing these violent things, it's Amazi-Girl. What's happening is that the line between Amazi-Girl and Amber is breaking down. Ultimately this is a healthy thing, it forces her to confront the fact that it's all a lie. In the short term, though, things are going to get rough and potentially dangerous.Amber is... well being her borderline psychotic self. It makes me wonder how long Danny will put up with her randomly raging like that at him.Sad thing is after these last couple of comics, it seems as though Amber is starting to become that apple a bit close to the tree.
OK, why hasn't someone punched Mary in the gob by now?
OK, why hasn't someone punched Mary in the gob by now?
Willis does like playing up the 'an alien in a human skin' concept with Dina's social behaviour, doesn't he.She certainly does have more teeth than the entire Osmond Family.
I think the Hammerblow for Mary will come soon and swiftly from the look of that last panel.
I just need to point out that I blame you all for my discovering DoA and binging through the entire thing yesterday.
For the kindest values of blame, of course. ;)
Why did Willis go and make things so complicated?
BTW, has anyone else had a loading issue with the comic the last few days? I don't know if it's me or not, but for the last three or four days when I go to the Comic Site, it seems to 'hang' on an empty screen for a minute or two, then suddenly it loads in a rush.
I know Willis probably isn't on this forum but I kinda wish he was.Why did Willis go and make things so complicated?
I'm guessing that it is because he gets a deep and profound pleasure from watching our reaction.
BTW, has anyone else had a loading issue with the comic the last few days? I don't know if it's me or not, but for the last three or four days when I go to the Comic Site, it seems to 'hang' on an empty screen for a minute or two, then suddenly it loads in a rush.
Not being familiar with it, I just figured that was how the site always was. It made my binge through the entire archives last week frustrating at times until I got all caught up.
Mary reminds me of the Christian ultra from Orange is the New Black, as in, I want to disembowel her.
I think even God is fed up with Mary and may be actually on Carlas side here
Nice try though Ruth :-D
Except for the fact that on a 2160px tall display and a browser set for full height,
I don't want to pull attention away from the comic as such, but this particular thing irked me:
The whole trigger warning thing was way over the top.
I get that it's upsetting to people, but the full-page trigger warning stuff just draws attention to it further. It also takes all of the drama out of the storytelling because guess what? You already know what's going to happen at some point in the next five panels now.
Pie!
I would say that Mary is too cartoonishly evil and one-dimensional if I hadn't actually met (and been related to) ppl just like her.
Rimmer says it best:
https://youtu.be/H_1ntrrjvxQ
Wait, Joe is Jewish? Never put that together previously.He even stated it outright on his date with Joyce.
Looks like Becky is being shunned.
It's not because they think she might be violent. It's because telling her she isn't welcome would require acknowledging she exists.Looks like Becky is being shunned.
If so, then it was entirely inappropriate of them to not send her word that she isn't welcome and that they politely request that she not attend. The fact that she has attended should have automatically triggered a private meeting with the pastor that he prioritised over everything else where they discuss under what terms she's attending.
I'm more interested to learn why they're treating her like a bomb ready to go off. Do they really think that she's somehow violent? Just what skewed version of the kidnapping have they heard?
:clairedoge:
Moving on:
Joyce's dad does not seem to like the comments he is hearing.
That was a ripping good yarn there :-D
She built a Rube Goldberg device. Her being a nerd isn't news, either.
He also planted the seed to make Ethan wonder what guro means. WARNING: Do not google that term. I have warned you. In great big letters no less.
Danf it, Walky, that's not even what it's called!It isn't?
Pretty sure it is.Danf it, Walky, that's not even what it's called!It isn't?
Pretty sure it is.Danf it, Walky, that's not even what it's called!It isn't?
Wikipedia disagrees. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cloned_animals_in_Jurassic_Park#Indominusrex)Pretty sure it is.Danf it, Walky, that's not even what it's called!It isn't?
I saw the movie a few times. It's 'indomitus' with a 't,' not an 'n.'
Remember, Ethan outmasses him and could quite easily pound him flat.
Is Mike showing actual concern in the last panel?
For example... (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/interrogation/)Remember, Ethan outmasses him and could quite easily pound him flat.
Mike isn't daunted by physical risk or even the possibility of injury. If he's anything like his Walkyverse counterpart, there's a nasty edge of nihilistic sado-masochism about him that makes him enjoy people hurting him and being cruel to him as validating his personal philosophy of a world without good. He can and will keep on spitting barbs even whilst someone is beating him into a pulp because there is nothing that will strip him of his disdain for the world.
Why does Mike think he could seduce Ethan?
Although to be fair, by the time the day after the first Monday in November* comes around, it could very well be time for the 2024 election.
*To people outside of the States, yes, that is when Election Day is every year. It's usually the first Tuesday, but once in a while it's the second Tuesday. It's whatever day between November 2-8 lands on a Tuesday. I have no fucking idea why.
Why the first Tuesday after the first Monday? Lawmakers wanted to prevent election day from falling on the first of November for two reasons. First, November 1st is All Saints Day, a Holy Day of Obligation for Roman Catholics. Second, most merchants were in the habit of doing their books from the preceding month on the 1st. Apparently, Congress was worried that the economic success or failure of the previous month might prove an undue influence on the vote!Source: http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/election-day-first-tuesday-november.html
Why Tuesday? Since most residents of rural America had to travel a significant distance to the county seat in order to vote, Monday was not considered reasonable since many people would need to begin travel on Sunday. This would, of course, have conflicted with Church services and Sunday worship.
Not sure if I'm reading him right, but Hank looks like he wants to belt Walky upside his head.
I never took Hank to be the violent type.
At least she got a hug outta it
I really hope they have an actual conversation and get shit behind them.
I mean are we sure he's there? Maybe Amazi-Girl is just seeing her biggest failure. Joyce has imagined him before and he was tagged then.No, this is actually him. When Joyce imagined him, she imagined him as she remembered him: with the cut on his face still bleeding. This one has had some time for the scar to partially heal. Just in time for some new ones.
Marcie and Sal have been best friends since childhood.I completely forgot about this.
If there's one thing I learned unequivocally at school it is that dealing with bullying is far too difficult a chore for most teachers to bother with. It's simpler to urge the victim to 'fight back' or 'ignore it' and, if it carries too long, refer them to a child psychologist for being a victim (you can tell that I'm still bitter about this nearly three decades later, can't you?).
Unintentionally good timing considering his early release. Also it's still strange seeing Marcie talk.
I strongly suspect that, after getting herself all riled up and ready to go, poor Sal is feeling let down by Amazi-Girl's sudden realisation that there are things that are far more important to her than any desire to fight her.
If Amazi-Girl is sufficiently loud and clear about why she wants to add a few scars to Ryan, I strongly suspect that Sal is going to realise that her view of her adversary might not be as correct as she imagined.
I will be watching - and waiting.And commiserating? Say it ain't so!
POW!Called it!
Fucking Willis. Of course the rapist got away.Just like in real life. At least in the comic there is a chance he'll get beaten by a superhero. That never happens in real life.
And the picture of him has probably already been sent, so getting the phone won't do him much good.Unless he figures out whose phone it is. Hopefully she has a separate account for Amazi-Girl and she didn't post that as Amber.
And whether you like it or not Billie, what happened WAS the best thing that could have happened for Ruth.
AFAIK, Ethan and Amber don't have any blood siblings. However, you can't watch their interaction and not immediately realise that they are brother and sister in heart.Except for that whole used to date each other thing.
I've been where Ruth is. Recovery can be scary. When all you've ever known is pain and sadness, experiencing anything else is off-putting. When i first started recovery I was afraid to leave behind my misery cos I was afraid I wouldn't know who I was without it. I've always had trouble trusting positive emotions/situations cos I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
where Ruth loses her RA jobShe might not. Considering the pace of this comic, she may very well have both lost it and not lost it for all of 2017.
COUNTER TWIST! Batman becomes the R.A.
Crazy Twist! Becky becomes the new RA!"Sorry, Dorothy and Roz. The university charter specifically states that the RA here must have red hair... Wait, who are you and do you even live here? Who cares, you got the job."
Re: yesterday's, weird phrasing there. "College teache"? Why not just say professor? To people outside the US, if you teach at a college, you're considered a professor here.Not necessarily - at Central Ohio Technical College, it was always "instructor", never "professor".
Wait, you got potential sexual relationship out of that comic?
Wait, when do we see any indication that Sal saw them? Also, what makes you think Leslie lives on campus?
You know what else is entirely in-character? Robin’s whole story from beginning to end as well as her attitude towards Leslie and the whole situation. Sometimes, I don’t know if she’s charmingly and innocently simple or if she’s just a complete sociopath. She literally seems to have no clue and little interest in how her whims affect anyone else.
Once again I want to punch Mary in the face. Not only is she a cruel, spiteful hypocrite, she's also full of crap. "I knew". What a load of bollocks.To be fair, that actually is a callback to speculation she made earlier in the comic (based purely on Robin being 30 and unmarried, so the speculation was made using incredibly sexist American "Christian" logic, but...)
Several! Also, if it's only October, he can probably just drop the math class. He's a first-semester freshman and he's Walky, I'd be shocked if he already has a major.Pretty sure his major is Telecommunications but I can't find the comic where it's mentioned right now. It's one of the early ones, where he's walking to class with Joyce.
What is wrong with that woman?
She doesn't want to contaminate her actual shoes.I mean why doesn't she wear them instead of her actual shoes?
Twizzlers in the morning, Twizzlers in the evening, Twizzlers at suppertime. Wait, no, that doesn't work. Those Twizzlers aren't on a bagel.
That last comment Ruth makes has me thinking - is she going to stay on and continue at the College or not?
My guess:I think it's the first one.Oddly enough, she had no such problem with Joyce. This is probably a testament to how easy it is to confuse interpersonal familiarity with something deeper.
- Dina may not be ready for (or even fully understanding of, on an emotional level) sexual intimacy;
- Becky is definitely not mentally or emotionally ready for sexual intimacy.
David.He does not strike me as a David. But then again, I guess that's why he goes by Walky.
David.
He does not strike me as a David. But then again, I guess that's why he goes by Walky.
Yelling at the wrong person, here.The last panel shows she's well aware of this.
I forget, did they explain why her brother lives with their grandfather?
I think that is underestimating Joyce's naivete. She's working towards the 'fairy tale ending' that she's sure is the right shape of the universe; she's also doing so with incomplete information and in the completely erroneous assumption that Sarah wouldn't steer her wrong.
I suspect that Sarah will pull her back in a day or so after spending all that time angsting about what she's done. There will then follow a talk about boundaries that will shake the foundations of Joyce's world-view when it comes to romance. What remains to be seen is if Joyce first makes a fool of herself by marching up to Raidah and essentially explaining what she's doing and why (either directly or indirectly).
Joyce, being the Christian and all, is forgetting (or ignoring) the "Judge not..." tenet.
Who is *she* to decide who should be with whom?
And all of it based on nothing more than Sarah disliking Raidha and liking Jacob?
Joyce, being the Christian and all, is forgetting (or ignoring) the "Judge not..." tenet.
Who is *she* to decide who should be with whom?
And all of it based on nothing more than Sarah disliking Raidha and liking Jacob?
The thing is that Joyce can only go on what she's seen. Raidah has been catty and cruel to Sarah whilst Sarah is Joyce's big sister surrogate (in her own mind at least); Raidah and Sarah's roles in Joyce's world-view were set by their behaviour, not her choice. So, she'd not judging; she's acting in harmony what all that nice Mr Walt Disney's movies has told her is the natural order of things: The princess (Sarah) lives happily ever after with the Prince (Jacob) and the Wicked Witch (Raidah) ends up defeated and with nothing.
You can't be said to be 'judging' if all of the influences on your social development have already done the judging for you on a subconscious level.
"Joyce is not a child"
Ehhh, she's only what, 18-19? She's a college freshman. Not quite a child, but not really an adult, either.
It probably helps that most people don't like Raidah at all. They'd probably be fine with Mike doing it too taking that into consideration.
Methinks thou doth protest too much there Leslie.
Laundry girl?
The thing is that Amber is more comfortable hiding and she has no incentive to change that at the moment. She's also proud enough not to want to go back on her decisions, no matter how ill-considered. I think that the time has come for Danny to move on... again.
Danny and Sal? I read far enough in the other 'verse to get that, but...good god, why?
As much as you want to Amber, you cannot hide forever.
The great mystery - How did Robin make Muffins without Eggs or Flour?
Are we sure the relationship's to blame?
Which got me to thinking why Dorothy, a pre-law major who wants to go into politics, is spending her time writing for the paper. That seems like a droppable interest.
Yeah, I was wondering how long it would take for Trump references to start showing up after the election (I think his buffer at the time went to March).
Except he said in the comments that(click to show/hide)
Also, what's interesting is that Walky sees himself as expendable.
Not everyone who comments there comments here.Yeah, but I'd rather discuss it with friends. Btw, my earlier post meant I don't see the point of the comments for me, sorry if that wasn't clear.
Not everyone who comments there comments here.
I'll admit that when I load the strip, I do a Ctrl-F Cerberus on the comments - her analysis adds quite a bit.
the tags are canonEhhhhhhhhhh...sure. Maybe. I specifically said "in the comic" rather than "canon" because I didn't want to go down this road, so...yeah.
She had a name before - the tags are canon -
True - more correctly, the tags reflect canon as of the publication of the latest strip.
What's interesting is, Willis was using "amazi-girl" and "amber" tags separately for a couple years at least, before all but outright stating Amber's dissociative identity disorder in-comic.
What hilarious timing. I'm not sure I would consider the tags canon, because they're not in the comic. Either way, I wish she'd asked what his name was before she fired them.She had a name before - the tags are canon -
... Unless, (as seems to be the case from today), they are not...
You know what I could have done without today? Joe. Did I say "today"? I meant "ever again".
(E.T.A. What are the odds she becomes "Mrs Joe" ??)
(E.T.A. What are the odds she becomes "Mrs Joe" ??)
From my experience, Willis doesn't really do 'romcom' cliches in Dumbing of Age but, who knows?
Wait, how is Robin irredeemable?
Wait, how is Robin irredeemable?
Big fight scene in the offing. I suspect that we're about to have a massive (and almost certainly traumatic) watershed in Amber's mental condition and self-image.
It's pretty clear that Amber is close to a melt-down. Sal and Blaine could tell 'Ryan' that when Amber has a melt-down, bad things happen to the people who are the source of her fear.
I also admire the amount of composure she has to try and give instructions and reassurance to Dorothy when they're both scared.
If he's not dead, I'll be shocked. That seemed like a punch to assist the disarm, then a very efficient slitting of his throat. I could be wrong, but...bye, whatever the fuck your name was.
That goes beyond self defense....does it, though? We see one punch and one stab. If she got the knife for him and he still seemed like a threat and stabbed him once, I don't see how that's not cut and dry self-defense.
Whoa. Hell of a jump forward.
Whoa. Hell of a jump forward.
Amber made it very clear (to his mind) that she didn't have the time to interact with him anymore. Dorothy did the same. If they want his help, they know where he is but I can't help but empathise with him thinking that it just hurts too much to want to go rushing to their sides anymore.
It now appears that they ARE aware of what happened, and Danny has lost it a little bit after hearting about it and is burying himself in denial.
It now appears that they ARE aware of what happened, and Danny has lost it a little bit after hearting about it and is burying himself in denial.
Yeah, I have to admit that I'm now wondering if Danny has gone a little crazy after Amber was dragged away by campus security and Ryan was carted off to the Emergency Room. Could have he prevented this? I'm sure that this is tormenting him and it looks like he's trying to avoid confronting that question (no matter how unjustified it is, in my view at least) by doing something slightly random and crazy.
I'm most worried about Dorothy though. She pretty much worshipped the ground Amazi-Girl walked on and to see the beast that Amber is continually fighting against so clearly has probably shaken her to the core.
I'm sort of hoping that Amber sees Danny's new 'aesthetic', simply because, firstly, her reaction would be comedy gold and, secondly, I really want to find out if she decides that she needs to 'save' him.Or if she decides to kill again.
Carla is pushing her 'I don't care about anything' public face harder than usual.I'm pretty sure she's just continuing not to care.
the story of her feelings for JoyceWell yeah, I don't think Willis was trying to be subtle there.
Becky;s already had one nasty dose of reality with her dad, but she's bounced back from that. Perhaps she's now reached the other end of he pendulum?
Oh well, he's not getting laid anytime soon now, might as well help poor Danny out of whatever mental breakdown he's having.
Really, that's a hell of a long time to keep that storyline hanging...
Even still, there should be some mention that a student was found slashed up in front of one of the dorms. That's kind of the sort of thing that travels fast and isn't forgotten about after a few days.
One scenario that I've thought of is that Joe may end up dating Joyce for a while and it will be an odd thing for him because he'll be in a relationship with a girl that, whilst he finds her attractive, he doesn't really desire. It will be a really weird relationship for him that will slowly just metamorphose into a serious platonic friendship and force him to re-evaluate how he sees women in general.
Or, we could reach the logical conclusion that Amber didn't kill him or leave him unable to extricate himself from the area.
Refer to the section after the "or".
As I implied, that would require other people to know about it. There are any number of scenarios where that does happen. One example being Dorothy manages to stop Amber, thus allowing Douche MsScarface to get away.
Or, we could reach the logical conclusion that Amber didn't kill him or leave him unable to extricate himself from the area.Or that she quickly and effectively hid the body.
A little blood spray doesn't mean he can't walk away. I've walked away from plenty of fights where bleeding was involved.
Again, it's only a "major deal" if anyone other than the three of them even know it happened. No one can react to events they don't know occurred.A little blood spray doesn't mean he can't walk away. I've walked away from plenty of fights where bleeding was involved.Still doesn't alter the fact that this is a major deal...
Joe, you really can be an utter prick sometimes.
Okay, I'm taking today's strip as meaning that Joe has real feelings for Joyce. Not necessarily romantic feelings but feelings; likely growing friendship. Joe realised that he is growing closer emotionally with a woman whom he once found sexually desirable enough to date (he rarely goes to such lengths to trap his prey). Given his aversion to romantic relationships, I can imagine that lead to a very strong fear reaction.
As always seems to happen, fear led to anger and resentment. Lacking emotional maturity, Joe's reaction was to lash out at Joyce in a passive-aggressive way by editing his 'review' of her into a flaming put-down.
However, Joyce has ripped off his mask just by way of asking the right question. Joe once again proves just how young he is emotionally by running away from something that he desperately does not want to confront.
To further elaborate: I suspect that Joe’s laptop has a three- or four-page draft ‘in-depth review’ of Joyce that he wrote but never posted on the feed because it horrified him. It began to lapse into sappy poetry about her beauty (inner and outer) and rated her as "10+ Snap this up and keep it before someone else does!"
When he realised what he’d done, he had a panic attack and responded by publishing a flame about her instead. He’s still got the review, though. He’s been elaborating on it by adding photos of her in candid moments and even a sound-track of some sort. It’s become his guilty addiction to just sit there at night and once again read through the review.
Yes, I’m saying that the ‘Zero-minus’ thing represents a fear reaction and a wall of denial.
Again, it's only a "major deal" if anyone other than the three of them even know it happened. No one can react to events they don't know occurred.A little blood spray doesn't mean he can't walk away. I've walked away from plenty of fights where bleeding was involved.Still doesn't alter the fact that this is a major deal...
Regardless, I'm sure Joyce was the only "10" in Joe's list before he caught feelings for her.Canonically, she was a four, but Joe "breaking her in" would upgrade her to a ten: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/corrupt/
It does seem to be a hint at what happened. It's the first time that Joyce has been outside by herself without a panic attack since the incident with Ryan. It suggests she knows what happened, and that whatever happened put Ryan out of commission for good (not necessarily dead, but at least bad enough that he's not coming back for revenge).Again, it's only a "major deal" if anyone other than the three of them even know it happened. No one can react to events they don't know occurred.A little blood spray doesn't mean he can't walk away. I've walked away from plenty of fights where bleeding was involved.Still doesn't alter the fact that this is a major deal...
Yes... precisely.
And it's *that* that I find unbelievable - given where it happened.
And if it proves that this *is* the case...well... that'll be another "Damn you , Willis!" moment... but for different reasons than usual.
(One similar to the "Deus Ex Machina of Spookybot" arc, here... an easy 'out' for an otherwise very dramatic scenario.)
Although none of this explains Joyce's sudden "out on her own"-ness. Which again, if no-one knows what's happened, is a bit too synchronicitous for comfort. (That's a word, yeah?? :) )
It does seem to be a hint at what happened. It's the first time that Joyce has been outside by herself without a panic attack since the incident with Ryan. It suggests she knows what happened, and that whatever happened put Ryan out of commission for good (not necessarily dead, but at least bad enough that he's not coming back for revenge).
It does seem to be a hint at what happened. It's the first time that Joyce has been outside by herself without a panic attack since the incident with Ryan. It suggests she knows what happened, and that whatever happened put Ryan out of commission for good (not necessarily dead, but at least bad enough that he's not coming back for revenge).Again, it's only a "major deal" if anyone other than the three of them even know it happened. No one can react to events they don't know occurred.A little blood spray doesn't mean he can't walk away. I've walked away from plenty of fights where bleeding was involved.Still doesn't alter the fact that this is a major deal...
Yes... precisely.
And it's *that* that I find unbelievable - given where it happened.
And if it proves that this *is* the case...well... that'll be another "Damn you , Willis!" moment... but for different reasons than usual.
(One similar to the "Deus Ex Machina of Spookybot" arc, here... an easy 'out' for an otherwise very dramatic scenario.)
Although none of this explains Joyce's sudden "out on her own"-ness. Which again, if no-one knows what's happened, is a bit too synchronicitous for comfort. (That's a word, yeah?? :) )
Becky, the youngest Congresswoman in history??!
So, the big question is is whose Mindy
And is she destined to be important to Becky
Or not
Booo, the nice one is dating the terrible one.
Also, is this "Anna" Renee's cross dimensional counterpart? They look similar and seem to have similar attitudes.
I disagree, MoM, Robin's behavior is totally abusive.Robin is just, well, Robin. She is basically the only character that has kept the insanity of the Walkyverse in the more realistic Dumbingverse.
Not an ex gf, but definitely an ex crush, someone she was, until recently, quite hung up on
Willis and Jeph are friends; they may have collaborated on character design. I'm serious.If not collaborated, at the very least subconciously influenced each other.
Robin is just, well, Robin. She is basically the only character that has kept the insanity of the Walkyverse in the more realistic Dumbingverse.That doesn't make her behavior any less abusive. I know nothing of her previous incarnation, but her behavior in this universe is clearly abusive.
a more realistic world.I read the first few years of the Walkyverse, so I know this is true from a relative standpoint, but...come on, are we really calling DoA realistic? Or saying that Robin's anywhere close to the wackiest?
Well, more realistic than the Walkyverse, at the very least. Way more. And I don't think anyone acts as "wacky" as her in DoA either. Specially considering she's not one of the teenage characters.a more realistic world.I read the first few years of the Walkyverse, so I know this is true from a relative standpoint, but...come on, are we really calling DoA realistic? Or saying that Robin's anywhere close to the wackiest?
I don't see why Carla wouldn't be on the list.If she's not, then it'd likely be for transphobic reasons.
Mary is human, despite her behaviour. I'm wondering if she's in love (or at least is telling herself that she's in love). It wouldn't surprise me if she came to IU with the same implicit parental objective that Joyce did - To find a husband. She may have recently succeeded in finding a boyfriend and is suddenly learning that the whole world can be all sweetness and light.Wasn't it stabilished that Mary is happy because whatever leverage she though she lost against Billy is now back thanks to Ruth being kept as R.A?
As immature as Joe is, he doesn't really strike me as transphobic. Dunno why.I don't see why Carla wouldn't be on the list.If she's not, then it'd likely be for transphobic reasons.
As I suspected, Leslie has the unerring talent of being attracted to the abusive one.
Or maybe you'd care to explain why, on your watch, 50 percent of marriages now end in divorce...and the other 50 percent in death!
To be fair most relationships are doomed and they all end, even the successful ones. Every relationship ends either through breakup or death.Fair enough, but this one seems to be doomed in a short-term basis.
someone who had the password leaked itIt's The pasword was probably "guest".
(Seriously? I'm bored of the teasing.)
With Mike, of course, it is impossible to tell if this is from a genuinely-positive intent or if he believes that getting Amber moving would spread chaos and unhappiness.
Yes, in this comic (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/mister/) that also features Faye's dad.I read a few after that and was reminded that Ethan's parents (albeit possibly just his mom) are shit, and Dorothy's parents seem alright.
Yes, in this comic (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/mister/) that also features Faye's dad.I read a few after that and was reminded that Ethan's parents (albeit possibly just his mom) are shit, and Dorothy's parents seem alright.
"I hope he never...""...wakes up" or something to that degree. I mean, I can't be 100%, but it seems likely enough.
"I hope he never...""...wakes up" or something to that degree. I mean, I can't be 100%, but it seems likely enough.
I mean, she already explicitly said she wished Amber'd killed him. I think the interruption was less to cut her off and more to show Ruth barging in."I hope he never...""...wakes up" or something to that degree. I mean, I can't be 100%, but it seems likely enough.
Of course...
But it's a lazy tactic.
And doesn't actually give any real resolution.
("...out of Hospital." ? "...out of Jail!" ? "...finds the part of him that you cut off and threw into the bushes!!" ?)
Just seems to be dragging the denouement of this out a bit too long...
Also, huh...blowjob cat.
We don’t know that Mary is definitely straight.
Mary has shown a great deal of hatred toward Carla in the past, of the clearly not "I secretly love you so I pick on you" kinda. And vice versa. To have Mary suddenly flip on that is unlikely in the extreme. What is more likely is she has taken to the trick of acting super sweet and kind towards your enemy and drive them insane as they try to figure out what you are up to.
My theory, this guy is just telling her what she wants to hear and doesn’t particularly care about religion one way or the other. I’m not saying that to defend the guy, he’s shitty no matter what.
FWIW, I don't think that this is 'similar themed' to the Ryan arc. If you're right that Peter has selected Mary from Joe's list, then this is more specifically about the consequences of Joe's thoughtless actions.
The point that those people are trying to make is that, even if Joe isn't a rapist, he's immersed in a culture of toxic masculinity (which is a particular sub-type of masculinity), that very much tries to trivialize rape.
He's part of the culture that attacks rape victims for "ruining their rapist's life", because it wasn't really rape, because she didn't say no (because she was so drunk that she couldn't say no). He's part of the culture that trivializes women, reducing their role to sex objects, and declaring them worthless if they're not having sex with people like him (this especially includes Joyce - see his rating her "zero minus" - even if he doesn't actually think she's worthless).
The people who are calling him out for being on the same path as Ryan and who are calling him out for being immersed in the culture of toxic masculinity aren't saying that he's a toxic male, they're pointing out that he's also a victim of toxic masculinity... but that he has a lot of victims as a result. Sure, it's nowhere near as bad as Ryan, but it is still a thing. And, they're even pointing out that he could grow out of this. In the mean time, though, he's still a threat to women on campus.
It makes sense that people talk about those topics a lot in relation to the comic and their own experience.
Keep discussion to the comic and its characters, not about the commenters. There's a Rape Culture thread in Discuss (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29834.0.html) where that topic can be continued or to do some reading on what has been said before.
So Amber is finally going to fully open up to someone. This could get interesting.
Actually, I think that Amber is going to spend the next few strips ranting about what a broken monster she is and then get very surprised by Dorothy telling her that she's talking bullshit.
Episcopalian!!!!
Oh the shame of it. Her Parents will weep and wail and call in an Exorcist.
I've never had any of these three things happen to me, but I'd argue that having to defend yourself against a violent crime before passing out from being roofied is probably more harrowing than even the most undeserved or petty relationship drama.
Try to remember just who you're supposed to be doing this for Joyce.
Try to remember just who you're supposed to be doing this for Joyce.
It's curious because, in a way, I think that Sarah and Billie are doing it for Joyce (the revenge on Raidah being a bitterly pleasant side-benefit).
Some people are gonna get the wrong end of the stick on this Ethan.
After that last panel, am I the only one who wants Becky and Jacob to become a crime fighting duo? Or barring that, really good friends? (And yes, Becky could absolutely rock a smaller version of that suit)
It'd be nice if he had translations when he had characters sign.
You could just tell me what link it would be instead of being kind of unhelpful?It'd be nice if he had translations when he had characters sign.
Do I *really* need to post a tvtropes link here?
Oh sorry. Here it is: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BilingualBonusAhh. Do they really show enough in the panels for people who know ASL to be able to get the gist of what they're saying?
Also Joyce, Episcopalians are Protestants, but Justine (my Catholic girlfriend) has referred to them as "Catholicism light". (This is not meant as an insult)
They are either identical to or very similar to what we here in the UK call the 'High Church', which was basically the post-Henry VIII Catholic church that no longer recognised the Pope's authority. There was a flirtation with puritanism during the brief reign of Edward VI that led to the disappearance of icons
Wow, Joyce, you're being super shitty. It's kinda funny that electric guitars are the biggest deal, though. Also can someone explain the occupied vs. empty cross thing? An empty cross is still showing what killed him, wouldn't celebrating his resurrection be an empty cave?
It's actually a really simple strategy by the Catholic church..
"LOOK! LOOK WHAT YOUR SIN DID TO HIM!! LOOK WHAT HE HAD TO SUFFER AND HOW HE HAD TO DIE FOR YOU !!! VENERATE HIM!!!!"
/nutshell
Religion continues to completely baffle me.
Marcie's carrying that upside down :parrot:
Hey, at least Marcie was in the same room as Sal
It's a start :D
This isn't sheltered naivety, this is selfish immaturity.
Whenever you're dealing with Willis's art, you have to be aware of his background: The strong reserve of self-loathing he feels for the person he was as a teenager and college student and the enormous resentment he feels for his parents and their religion. Given that Joyce is his SI and is, in many ways, the person he was back then, you can expect Willis to occasionally throw muck at her simply because she has elements of himself in her that he now despises.
God damn it, Willis, don't make me start missing that Joyce being obnoxious at church story by making Leslie do something stupid.
Her, or me for continuing to read over the years? (I'm not even complaining, I like the comic...I think?)
I read all of DoA a while back so I could take part in this thread, then I tried reading the other stuff and got a couple years in and...just didn't really wanna read anymore. I still read DoA more or less every day (sometimes I forget and have to catch up but rarely more than a week, mostly because I'll see someone posted here and that reminds me).
Who are Mandy and Grace again? I don't get this reference.http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/unraveling/
So wait, what is Sarah trying to do?
So wait, what is Sarah trying to do?She's trying to hook up Jacob with Joyce.
So wait, what is Sarah trying to do?
She's trying to hook up Jacob with Joyce.
(Unless, of course, Willis is going all out with the Drama Tag in the near future...?)
Poor Dorothy and Walky. That was very hard on both of them.
This might seem like a strange question, but...is this the first time Ethan's kissed a guy? I don't mean in comic, I mean ever.
Wait, Billie still doesn't think she's bi?
....In High School, Billie was probably the type of alpha girl who bullied anyone 'different', be they homosexual, bisexual, members of a non-mainstream religious group or whatever.
Danny and Sal have fun chemistry. Not the shipping kind necessarily, just fun to read/watch.
I'm not familiar with the oeuvre of Johnny Cash. Consequently, when reading today's strip (31/1), I can only hear Sal singing REM's Everybody Hurts.
Me: Who the fuck is Faz?
Ok, is nobody reading this anymore? Also I'm wondering why they just took Joe's list at face value and why Penny didn't say something like "um...he wishes". Then again, they also took Penny's word about Jason, so...I don't know.
Why did I think that Amber's dad was in jail? I know Becky's dad is, but I thought Amber's dad was, too. Was he just beat up really badly and then sent away?He was beaten up badly enough to end up in the hospital, and we haven't heard from him since. I suspect, with Faz hanging around, that we'll hear from him in this storyline.
Why did I think that Amber's dad was in jail? I know Becky's dad is, but I thought Amber's dad was, too. Was he just beat up really badly and then sent away?Blaine is an asshole, but didn't do anything illegal in that story arc. As far as the police are concerned, he's the victim.
...time to move the relevant posts from this thread into the new thread, then lock this one?Not a bad idea.