Oh, and remembering phone numbers could be a sign of not being used to a mobile phone (i.e. all of us 10 years ago)
Is it so expensive to call into a number service in the US?
I mean, it's 1-2 € a minute plus connection opening fee even here, but still.
I think freeman means dialling an operator?
I think freeman means dialling an operator?
What I call "directory enquiries"; a facility that has got progressively less useful and more expensive since the advent of mobile phones. It's years since I last used it.
"Clinton, I need a urine sample."
"Pintsize. Brun. I have the wolf urine. Fresh. Where would you like it delivered?"
"Clinton? He's you're ex-boss's ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend's brother. And also your ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend's roommate's girlfriend's brother. Because we live in a small town."
"Clinton? He's you're ex-boss's ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend's brother. And also your ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend's roommate's girlfriend's brother. Because we live in a small town."
"Clinton? He's you're ex-boss's ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend's brother. And also your ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend's roommate's girlfriend's brother. Because we live in a small town."
"Clinton? He's you're ex-boss's ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend's brother. And also your ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend's roommate's girlfriend's brother. Because we live in a small town."
"Clinton? He's you're ex-boss's ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend's brother. And also your ex-boyfriend's ex-girlfriend's roommate's girlfriend's brother. Because we live in a small town."
Why hand off? Did it skitter away on its own or something?
Why hand off?'cos I suspect if Renee catches Clinton with his hand on Brun consequences will ensue...
Brun is the doppelganger that Hannelore doesn't want to meet (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1845). :psyduck:
QC is returning to its roots, I see. :roll:
Would it be funny if Brun was related to Padma?
QC's roots would have more indie rock references.
QC's roots would have more indie rock references.
[...] I think it is nice and ironic that Clinton's suspicions about Marten are being reflected back at him!
In my opinion, this is an inappropriate reaction to someone helping your friend when her apartment burnt down. It isn't ironic, because in the situation some of you called back to, Clinton did not yell at or threaten Marten, and while Clinton wasn't nice , it is in no way the equivalent of this scene. In addition, I also do not find it funny, because pointless harassment isn't funny to me.
In my opinion, this is an inappropriate reaction to someone helping your friend when her apartment burnt down.
Would it be funny if Brun was related to Padma?
Sadly there's no shortage of people out there who will seek to abuse or exploit someone in a difficult situation.
Sadly there's no shortage of people out there who will seek to abuse or exploit someone in a difficult situation.
And the possibility that someone might do something bad is enough to make threats against a person one has no reason to suspect has, or will? Note - immediate, apparently quite extreme threats. Threats to the extent that the person on the other end of the conversation doesn't have an opportunity to form a complete sentence.
I'm sorry, but in my book - no. No, it isn't enough to act like that.
"Excuse me, could I have my cellphone back?"
(Brun returns Clinton's cellphone)
"Thank you. Now, I'm going to leave and you're never going to see me again..."
It's for comic effect.
Why should he turn away from Brun because she has a mistrustful friend (who isn't even present)? Clinton has already shown that he is better than that.
We don't know what might have happened to either Brun or Renee to cause her to react that defensively, either.
... stuff ...
A woman with a history of being too trusting for her own good would not pull a shotgun/harpoon on a stranger at a bar whose only "crime" was staring morosely at his drink. If anything, this suggests the opposite; the main reason Brun is giving Clinton the benefit of the doubt is that he's shown himself to be pretty harmless, something Renee has yet to see.
A woman with a history of being too trusting for her own good would not pull a shotgun/harpoon on a stranger at a bar whose only "crime" was staring morosely at his drink. If anything, this suggests the opposite; the main reason Brun is giving Clinton the benefit of the doubt is that he's shown himself to be pretty harmless, something Renee has yet to see.
I can only speak for myself, but in my case this is not the contradiction you think it is.
I've had my bad experiences, of course. Can't be prevented with a personality like mine. Some of them were traumatic. I'm careful around anyone I don't know. Not that found of weapons though, I'm just keeping my distance.
Problem is, I lower my defence too fast. As soon as someone is nice to me, I tend to assume that he is a nice person. Which is not necessarily true. That makes me vulnerable to anyone who knows to play nice to get what he wants.
If I were in Bruns place, I would be careful around customer Clinton, but I wouldn't distrust Clinton, the guy who helped after the fire. This situation, not strangers but also not really friends, is where I'm the most vulnerable.
EDIT: And I'd like to also note that as someone who sits on the autism-scale, if Brun really is such, Jeph might want to look into writing it a bit better. What we'd be looking for is Aspergers, which is a form of it in which someone has autistic traits but is able to socially function, and even then wouldn't be at this severity for someone who would be the owner of an entire bar (which includes the franchise and business operation side of it all, something that requires a good amount of social lubrication and understanding.)
Asperger's syndrome is a highly artificial categorisation of autism which lacks a nuanced view and supports an erroneous "low functioning"/"high functioning" divide. It has been removed from the current version of the DSM (though still persists in the ICD), and replaced with a view of autism which recognises that autistic people have varying levels of difficulty which can differ significantly between individuals. In my personal opinion Asperger's as a diagnosis was useful particularly during the '90s/2000s due to the extreme stigma attached to autism, but now simply functions as an arbitrary division between autistic people.
(This post brought to you by someone who has an Asperger's diagnosis but can also become non-verbal for extended periods of time in response to stress and has quite severe social issues.)
I don't remember seeing much of Renee's personality in the Padma & Jim/Dora arcs. She was described to us by Angus from his perspective, and we saw her in crowd scenes where the focus was on the Eliot-Padma-Marten triangle.
I'm excited to see what she's like in her own words.
So, not sure if anyone else mentioned this already, but, "Renee" reminded me of someone...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1859
Possible return of older characters?
Renee's incredibly off-key and, unfortunately, poorly written introduction. Right off the bat it's violent threats in the strips as well as being supposedly abrasive and grossly over-protective in a story-situation where it's unwarranted. We have no grey area with Renee, she's coming in at 100% steam.
Renee's incredibly off-key and, unfortunately, poorly written introduction. Right off the bat it's violent threats in the strips as well as being supposedly abrasive and grossly over-protective in a story-situation where it's unwarranted. We have no grey area with Renee, she's coming in at 100% steam.
But that could be the actual characterisation of Renee, rather than a poorly written one (which implies that it might not be accurate); people in real life can be unexpected in that sort of way. Also Jeph might quite simply be relying a bit more than is sensible on our remembering Renee (if indeed it is the Renee we've met before) and the earlier outline of her character which is not so much out of line with this.
A woman with a history of being too trusting for her own good would not pull a shotgun/harpoon on a stranger at a bar whose only "crime" was staring morosely at his drink. If anything, this suggests the opposite; the main reason Brun is giving Clinton the benefit of the doubt is that he's shown himself to be pretty harmless, something Renee has yet to see.
I can only speak for myself, but in my case this is not the contradiction you think it is.
I've had my bad experiences, of course. Can't be prevented with a personality like mine. Some of them were traumatic. I'm careful around anyone I don't know. Not that found of weapons though, I'm just keeping my distance.
Problem is, I lower my defence too fast. As soon as someone is nice to me, I tend to assume that he is a nice person. Which is not necessarily true. That makes me vulnerable to anyone who knows to play nice to get what he wants.
If I were in Bruns place, I would be careful around customer Clinton, but I wouldn't distrust Clinton, the guy who helped after the fire. This situation, not strangers but also not really friends, is where I'm the most vulnerable.
Oh... *hugs sympathetically, after checking for consent*
I am an aspie, and what you are talking about is quite familiar to me. When someone commits an action that seems intended to hurt me for the first time since I have met them, my reaction has sometimes been mainly to observe. I do not comprehend hostility, so my first reaction at the strange behaviour is to attempt to understand it. It is on the second attempt at my person that I strike back.
Against school bullies, this was tremendously efficient. Leave or ignore them the first time they try to drag down my dignity, choose a moment and then hit them as hard as I can the second time they do anything hostile. For example, at one time, three guys mocked and jeered at me without provocation, and I ignored them the first time they did it. The second time they mocked me, I pretended to leave, going for my coat, but turned the motion into a backhand strike to the face of the most aggressive one, and then screamed "IS THIS ENOUGH!?" at his surprised, prone, body. He nodded silently, the other two looked shaken and didn't make a move as I took my coat and left. They were never hostile to me again.
Against people faking friendship for years, and then suddenly taking advantage of me, the strategy was... less efficient. That was a long time ago, and I have gained some experience at finding the signs, but I still default to trusting people who do not show hostility.
All this is to say, I understand and sympathize with your situation.
And hey, that's all good, but it turns her into a 1-Dimensional character, or at best, 2-Dimensional. And what I mean is that if that's all her characterization is, her importance in these strips should be seen far less than we do already. It'd mean she's either poorly written or written to be a throw-away character.
In the meantime, I'll just chuck her onto the list of characters who copped hate when introduced.
Juicy... (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3182)
Renee's incredibly off-key and, unfortunately, poorly written introduction. Right off the bat it's violent threats in the strips as well as being supposedly abrasive and grossly over-protective in a story-situation where it's unwarranted. We have no grey area with Renee, she's coming in at 100% steam.
But that could be the actual characterisation of Renee, rather than a poorly written one (which implies that it might not be accurate); people in real life can be unexpected in that sort of way. Also Jeph might quite simply be relying a bit more than is sensible on our remembering Renee (if indeed it is the Renee we've met before) and the earlier outline of her character which is not so much out of line with this.
And hey, that's all good, but it turns her into a 1-Dimensional character, or at best, 2-Dimensional. And what I mean is that if that's all her characterization is, her importance in these strips should be seen far less than we do already. It'd mean she's either poorly written or written to be a throw-away character. That's really all I want pointing out, how the character is written isn't equalling to how much everyone is assuming her importance in this story-arc, and to a degree, her need to even be in it. Think filler episodes like the "Fly" one in Breaking Bad, if you've ever seen it.
Literally my only input in all this is that I can't wait for this arc to be over. I'm seriously bored with it. I can't bring myself to care about Brun, I certainly don't care about Renee, and I've had my fill of Clinton. This seems to be stretching on an awfully long time.
Personally, I'm really enjoying Clinton getting some character development.
I can't call it character development, personally. Not when he has, seemingly overnight, turned from a bumbling dork into a competent, semi-confident, level-headed young man.
Is it just me, or does Dora look wildly different each time we see her. When the PoV leaves CoD for a time and them comes back to Dora I can never be sure that it is her.
Is it just me, or does Dora look wildly different each time we see her. When the PoV leaves CoD for a time and them comes back to Dora I can never be sure that it is her.
Often I have to go "is that Dora or Emily?"
Which... no, they have very different body types.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Is it just me, or does Dora look wildly different each time we see her. When the PoV leaves CoD for a time and them comes back to Dora I can never be sure that it is her.I actually thought it was Cosette on first glance.
Often I have to go "is that Dora or Emily?"
Which... no, they have very different body types.
Does anyone else have this problem?
I can't call it character development, personally. Not when he has, seemingly overnight, turned from a bumbling dork into a competent, semi-confident, level-headed young man.
"Bumbling dork" is yet another character assessment made on pretty limited data.
He's a bumbling dork in date situations, yes. And arguably with his sister on occasion (though we've seen him level headed with her as well). This is the first time we've seen him outside of one of those situations*.Is it just me, or does Dora look wildly different each time we see her. When the PoV leaves CoD for a time and them comes back to Dora I can never be sure that it is her.
I didn't recognise her, I admit.
* Someone with an unhealthy knowledge of the archive proves me wrong in three... two... one...
What I'm a bit puzzled about is that Dora's blonde tips aren't showing. When her hair gets that long, it starts to show blonde again (or so Jeph forgot, it seems).Or she's keeping up with her roots. Still, I thought that she was Raven at first.
Hello! I'm SpanielBear.
Has this place ever been on fire?
(Seriously, hello! I apologise that the thing that made me stop lurking after nearly ten years was an awful, awful joke. :-) )
This forum often makes me realize just how different cultures are across the world. Threats of violence aren't exactly rare, the joke being they'd never actually do anything. Not so funny until you know the person making the threats, I'll admit.
Example: I took a miss, the first chance I had to kiss a girl. Her father was on the porch cleaning his guns, with a devilish glint in his eye. At the time, I was terrified. Now I get that's just his sense of humor. He's hardly the only one in the area to do this kind of thing.
Call it bad jokes, I wouldn't disagree. I'd disagree that you have a right to SAY that as an objective fact, because humor's subjective, but that's just arguing semantics. Doesn't really matter, the fact is that's just how it is in my town. And not how it is in anyone else's, which is the main thing I've realized, since this isn't the first time I've noticed this.
Now I'm wondering if this is leading to Hannelore getting a roommate...
What I'm a bit puzzled about is that Dora's blonde tips aren't showing. When her hair gets that long, it starts to show blonde again (or so Jeph forgot, it seems).
This forum often makes me realize just how different cultures are across the world. Threats of violence aren't exactly rare, the joke being they'd never actually do anything. Not so funny until you know the person making the threats, I'll admit.
Example: I took a miss, the first chance I had to kiss a girl. Her father was on the porch cleaning his guns, with a devilish glint in his eye. At the time, I was terrified. Now I get that's just his sense of humor. He's hardly the only one in the area to do this kind of thing.
Call it bad jokes, I wouldn't disagree. I'd disagree that you have a right to SAY that as an objective fact, because humor's subjective, but that's just arguing semantics. Doesn't really matter, the fact is that's just how it is in my town. And not how it is in anyone else's, which is the main thing I've realized, since this isn't the first time I've noticed this.
I vaguely remember Hannelore saying she couldn't handle having a roommate.Hannelore also had some reservations about Marigold as a roomie in 2826 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2826)
OK, 1586 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1586).
She's made a lot of progress since then.
Brun might not be the right person for the position though.
Sweet? She berated him and threatened him with a harpoon.
Her face is OK I'd say, actually - it's the unfamiliar hairstyle with no other indication of who she is that's disconcerting.
Coffee roaster in the Spider zone, Faye welding in the back, multiple space pizza impacts on the roof and still standing after all that -- CoD is either proven to be fireproof in the literal sense of the word, or ... is due.
A more important question is: Could someone handle being Hannelore's room mate? We don't see it anymore, but remember that Hanners has been shown as being extremely germophobic and affected by severe OCD as well as anxiety disorders. The anxiety we've seen she takes various drugs to keep under control. But it's been shown as not unusual for her to go for days without sleep, be up deep cleaning her apartment in the middle of the night and absolutely obsessive about her living space. She would not be an easy person to live with. And that's if she didn't say something that creeped said room mate out.
I guess I'm the only one who immediately recognized Dora..? Her general posture and face seem very much like Dora.
Utlimately though, I don't think Hanners is one of those people who can really live with anyone. Her...eccentricities would make her all but impossible to live with, and only someone equally eccentric (as in germophobic and OCD the same way) would be an acceptable roommate for her.The only person I have seen in the strip who would be able to live with Hanners already lives with Marigold. Momo might not have OCD, but she doesn't make a mess nor does she have all the germs that go along with biologic processes. So any human probably wouldn't be able to make a living arrangement work with Hanners, but an AI conceivably could.
sweet but not-entirely-worldly friend Brun
Sweet? She berated him and threatened him with a harpoon. In most jurisdictions, that's a misdemeanor, at least.
No, Brun's just another horribly, horribly broken character, the kind that this comic accumulates. Sigh.
Utlimately though, I don't think Hanners is one of those people who can really live with anyone. Her...eccentricities would make her all but impossible to live with, and only someone equally eccentric (as in germophobic and OCD the same way) would be an acceptable roommate for her.The only person I have seen in the strip who would be able to live with Hanners already lives with Marigold. Momo might not have OCD, but she doesn't make a mess nor does she have all the germs that go along with biologic processes. So any human probably wouldn't be able to make a living arrangement work with Hanners, but an AI conceivably could.
Utlimately though, I don't think Hanners is one of those people who can really live with anyone. Her...eccentricities would make her all but impossible to live with, and only someone equally eccentric (as in germophobic and OCD the same way) would be an acceptable roommate for her.The only person I have seen in the strip who would be able to live with Hanners already lives with Marigold. Momo might not have OCD, but she doesn't make a mess nor does she have all the germs that go along with biologic processes. So any human probably wouldn't be able to make a living arrangement work with Hanners, but an AI conceivably could.
A more important question is: Could someone handle being Hannelore's room mate? We don't see it anymore, but remember that Hanners has been shown as being extremely germophobic and affected by severe OCD as well as anxiety disorders. The anxiety we've seen she takes various drugs to keep under control. But it's been shown as not unusual for her to go for days without sleep, be up deep cleaning her apartment in the middle of the night and absolutely obsessive about her living space. She would not be an easy person to live with. And that's if she didn't say something that creeped said room mate out. Things she's done before with Faye and Marten, describing her vivid imaginings of what it would be like to murder them in her cheerful tone... We've pretty much seen Hanner's happy and fluffy side of late, but that doesn't mean the rest of it isn't still there.
...
I think they've adopted another one :-D
It's going to be interesting to see how Brun interacts with the rest of the CoD crew. Emily's gonna be the one I'm looking forward to her meeting.
What I'm a bit puzzled about is that Dora's blonde tips aren't showing. When her hair gets that long, it starts to show blonde again (or so Jeph forgot, it seems).Or she's keeping up with her roots. Still, I thought that she was Raven at first.
Today's strip is still not proof Brun is on the autism spectrum but it does fit that idea.
I'd say she either is Autistic, or she has other issues that she deals with much like Hanners sometimes does by having a routine she doesn't like deviating from and cause her anxiety and stress.
True - Though I have to admit that I am curious as to how much water the 'I have a routine'-thingy holds in reality, should the resident experts wish to share.
I wonder if Clinton knows about the Salvation Army's history of discrimination against LGBT people (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zinnia-jones/the-salvation-armys-histo_b_4422938.html).
Oddtail, you say there's no reason for us to believe she's anything but serious in her threats. I'd argue common sense would be reason enough to believe she's exaggerating. She thinks Clinton might hurt her friend. She'd be very upset if that happened, so she makes threats she'd never actually follow through on to convey to Clinton how she feels. I know many people who would respond that way. I know no one who would seriously threaten a person that way over the phone.
We have no visual of Renee. you say we have no reason to believe she's not serious. I say we have no reason to believe she IS. If we consider QC somewhat realistic, then Renee likely has a personality type we've seen before. I've never met someone who sincerely threatened a stranger with castration.
Another thought regarding Brun: I can't really blame her for snapping at Clinton in panel 3. I bet that she's had her fill in her life of people treating her as an incapable imbecile who needs to be led everywhere by the hand. I have no doubt that every bit of independence she has, she has had to fight for it, tooth and nail against well-meaning but misguided people.
"I have a routine. My routine keeps me organized."
Debatable, with the whole "didn't know about renters insurance" thing.
Brun knows Renee and didn't seem alarmed.
QC is, for those of us who fall into one or more of these minority groups, a port in a storm, a place where we can get a 'slice of life' comic where that life may actually have some semblance of accuracy to ourselves.
QC is, for those of us who fall into one or more of these minority groups, a port in a storm, a place where we can get a 'slice of life' comic where that life may actually have some semblance of accuracy to ourselves.
Weighing in: I personally don't have a routine. I do have certain habits, for instance showering after I come home from work, but that's simply because I don't want to get into bed sticky and sweaty. And sometime I skip it if I'm too tired or didn't work that much. I go straight to my computer to check social media after work too, but I don't have much to do except be on the computer. I pay my credit card bill, in full, between the 10th and 15th of every month...but doesn't everybody, more or less?Today's strip is still not proof Brun is on the autism spectrum but it does fit that idea.
True - Though I have to admit that I am curious as to how much water the 'I have a routine'-thingy holds in reality, should the resident experts wish to share.
Whether Brun is written as being on the spectrum or not, the recent arrival of a number of people who either are on the spectrum or have some expertise in the area shows something which I had kind of forgotten about relating to QC.QFT
QC, the comic, is to me largely about normalisation for those on the fringes of society. Put-upon minorities who deal with shit on a daily basis. QC lets these people be themselves in a wider social circle, not as saintly, role model characters but as actual people with thoughts, feelings, grey areas, pros, cons, admirable qualities and faults.
QC is, for those of us who fall into one or more of these minority groups, a port in a storm, a place where we can get a 'slice of life' comic where that life may actually have some semblance of accuracy to ourselves.
Whether Brun is written as being on the spectrum or not, the recent arrival of a number of people who either are on the spectrum or have some expertise in the area shows something which I had kind of forgotten about relating to QC.
QC, the comic, is to me largely about normalisation for those on the fringes of society. Put-upon minorities who deal with shit on a daily basis. QC lets these people be themselves in a wider social circle, not as saintly, role model characters but as actual people with thoughts, feelings, grey areas, pros, cons, admirable qualities and faults.
QC is, for those of us who fall into one or more of these minority groups, a port in a storm, a place where we can get a 'slice of life' comic where that life may actually have some semblance of accuracy to ourselves.
Whether Brun is written as being on the spectrum or not, the recent arrival of a number of people who either are on the spectrum or have some expertise in the area shows something which I had kind of forgotten about relating to QC.
QC, the comic, is to me largely about normalisation for those on the fringes of society. Put-upon minorities who deal with shit on a daily basis. QC lets these people be themselves in a wider social circle, not as saintly, role model characters but as actual people with thoughts, feelings, grey areas, pros, cons, admirable qualities and faults.
QC is, for those of us who fall into one or more of these minority groups, a port in a storm, a place where we can get a 'slice of life' comic where that life may actually have some semblance of accuracy to ourselves.
go over to Wrongplanet.net and see how many people over there contemplate suicide daily.
I'm glad that what I wrote resonated with so many of you :)go over to Wrongplanet.net and see how many people over there contemplate suicide daily.
At the risk of immediately evapourating the goodwill I just built up, I found that website to be a malignant cesspit and deleted my account from there many years ago. When I was there, it really seemed like a large proportion of the community on there was a horrible influence on the others.
I'll be very interested in seeing how it plays out if Braun is on the spectrum or not. (I'm still working on her ethnicity, I thought she was Israeli for a second.)To me she looks very Persian. The few Persians I know all look like they could be related to her.
I just hope that things don't magically fall into place for her, because that's not a realistic portrayal of being on the spectrum.
I'll be very interested in seeing how it plays out if Braun is on the spectrum or not. (I'm still working on her ethnicity, I thought she was Israeli for a second.)To me she looks very Persian. The few Persians I know all look like they could be related to her.
Not autistic (but was screened for the possibility) but in my deep depressive phases, routine was the only thing that kept me going for a long time. Having the same checkpoints to meet made daily life smoother and helped me be aware of my physical, mental and emotional energy levels.
I often talk to myself like Brun is in today's strip. It can help calm the nerves and refocus my brain.
but go over to Wrongplanet.netI actually never registered on that site or visited it much. Though I'm a regular on their irc channel. But yes it comes up sometimes.
Today's strip is still not proof Brun is on the autism spectrum but it does fit that idea.
True - Though I have to admit that I am curious as to how much water the 'I have a routine'-thingy holds in reality, should the resident experts wish to share.
when they realize it's not the 80s anymore.
Maybe I missed a reference to Salvation Army in the strip, but that was the Red cross that was at the scene of the fire. They are a secular organization that provides disaster relief (among other things).You're correct that the care package was from the Red Cross. However the place Brun and Clinton went clothes-shopping at was a Salvation Army thrift store.
The Salvation Army is a religious organization that provides housing to the homeless in exchange for pretending to accept their beliefs.
when they realize it's not the 80s anymore.
*looks at garage.
*looks at movie collection.
*looks at music collection.
It's not the 80's?? :psyduck:
I need to get out more.
I can't help but wonder why Brun was staring at that number. Shipping fuel or is Clinton one of such a tiny set of people who have been sustainedly respectful to her that she wants to know more?Together with how she was glancing at him in the (late) bar, I'll go with shipping fuel.
when they realize it's not the 80s anymore.
*looks at garage.
*looks at movie collection.
*looks at music collection.
It's not the 80's?? :psyduck:
I need to get out more.
Considering that I'm listening to Cyndi Lauper right now, it's *always* the '80s.
I think it's awesome that I could actually feel the bewildering number of possibilities and complexities that simple number scribbled on a piece of paper represented to Brun, and I completely understood how she could go about undressing, turning on the water and stepping under the shower head while staring at that piece of paper and trying to sort them all out.
I suspect that Brun may have a difficult time persuading Renee to give her the number. Not out of malice but out of protectiveness; as Brun said, she doesn't trust Clinton!
I suspect that Brun may have a difficult time persuading Renee to give her the number. Not out of malice but out of protectiveness; as Brun said, she doesn't trust Clinton!
If Renee withheld or deleted the number, it'd be a shitty move regardless of her motivation. Renee is entitled to express her opinion on anybody Brun meets, she's entitled to offer Brun any advice Brun is willing to listen to. She sure as hell isn't entitled to a veto on who Brun spends time with.
Unfortunately, there's good reason and precedence for such assumptions and precautions. It's enough to want to deck any guy who says "not all men". I know that. Women know that. But it's too much of a risk right now for women not to take precautions.In my opinion, this is an inappropriate reaction to someone helping your friend when her apartment burnt down. It isn't ironic, because in the situation some of you called back to, Clinton did not yell at or threaten Marten, and while Clinton wasn't nice , it is in no way the equivalent of this scene. In addition, I also do not find it funny, because pointless harassment isn't funny to me.
That's the way some people, mostly women, think; a male stranger (or even acquaintance) is automatically a threat, a potential stalker/rapist/serial killer until proven otherwise beyond the shadow of a doubt. And if Brun (or Renee) had a bad experience with such a person in her past, this would make Renee extra-suspicious of men she doesn't know well. I've been acquainted with such women myself in my life, and they tend to be generally unpleasant to be around, so I avoided them as much as I could.
EDIT: On the other hand, since there's no way to know a helpful stranger's true intentions ahead of time, some degree of caution is warranted when dealing with such strangers. We the readers know Clinton's harmless, but Renee doesn't.
She wouldn't be the first person who assumes that they have the right and duty to manage the lives of a friend with mental health or other behavioural issues and then tell themselves that it's 'for their own good' and that they 'need to be protected from themselves'.Amen. AMEN. AMEN!!!!!
My older brother looks like a Brit, my younger brother looks like a Swede, and I look half German half ambigous ethnicity (I've gotten guesses ranging from Jewish to Pacific Islander).Would it be funny if Brun was related to Padma?
I know this isn't Asterix and not everyone is drawn as an ethnic caricature. But Padma definitely looks Indian, and Brun looks, if anything, Persian.
Well this has been a fun ride.
Clinton's had a real chance to shine in this arc. Good character development.
You notice that before the fire he' s mostly resolved the social & emotional fallout from the mornings events?
He starts the day getting shot down by Emily, yelling at his sister, and getting harassed at the bar when he'd rather ruminate.
But then he gets over Emily, makes peace with Claire via text, and starts to make friends with Brun, all before the sparky sparky boom.
After the fire happens he's not the hyperventilating robot dweeb we met two thousand strips ago, he keeps cool head, gets Brun and Barry out, and provides a pillar of support to Brun during her no-good-very-bad day. Does this new confident Clinton's birth trace to Emily's influence? or to him standing up for himself at the bar between the harpoon and the lemon wedge?
Chad/ClaireMom does throw him for a loop, but we can't expect him to resolve all his neuroses in one traumatic day.
Is it just me, or does Dora look wildly different each time we see her. When the PoV leaves CoD for a time and them comes back to Dora I can never be sure that it is her.I actually thought it was Cosette on first glance.
Often I have to go "is that Dora or Emily?"
Which... no, they have very different body types.
Does anyone else have this problem?
It's definitely Dora, with her new hairstyle, as shown on Jeph's Tumblr:
Dora Rae Jepsen (http://jephjacques.com/post/142529119875/dora-rae-jepsen)
I can see her sitting down next to him, grabbing his hand and just closing her eyes and going non-verbal as she tries to process everything.
As Thomas Blackwell once said, "Life is what happens between failures".sweet but not-entirely-worldly friend Brun
Sweet? She berated him and threatened him with a harpoon. In most jurisdictions, that's a misdemeanor, at least.
No, Brun's just another horribly, horribly broken character, the kind that this comic accumulates. Sigh.
Yep, that's a recurring theme of the comic, as are their difficult and partially successful efforts to get better.
Today's strip is still not proof Brun is on the autism spectrum but it does fit that idea.In the words of any good scientist, "the evidence strongly supports this hypothesis."
True - Though I have to admit that I am curious as to how much water the 'I have a routine'-thingy holds in reality, should the resident experts wish to share.That's part of where the 'spectrum' in 'autism spectrum disorder' comes from. Different techniques and therapies work to varying degrees for different people. Though, establishing a routine helps a lot of autistic folks out. Especially if they're dealing with a low-function period in their life.
But yeah, I do. Just because they're both single and they went through a hard time together this week doesn't mean they're all that well-suited to each other. I have trouble really thinking of anything they'd do together for fun, or any way they'd complement each other. Fine, he's a boy, and she's a girl, and he's less awkward around her than with Emily, mostly because she's so awkward he looks normal by comparison.
But is that really enough?
Dang
One can only hope she memorised the number or will look for Clinton later on, otherwise I think that the Brun arc will end right here. I hope Renee, wherever she is has kept the number in her Call List.
That's so unusual. :mrgreen:
ALL the different scenarios that could happen if I took a certain actionSounds familiar. Do you prepare your questions too? Usually I get to ask them one thing (if I'm lucky) as I don't come up with any follow up question easily, especially if they ask me something in return. But recently I'm going over entire dialogue trees as well, and figured out you can force a certain dialogue path if you ask things you already know. After all I can't reveal that I remember what I overheard them talking, as that would reveal I might be invested in them. Also for things not to look 'weird' I should also chat with other people.
Unfortunately, there's good reason and precedence for such assumptions and precautions. It's enough to want to deck any guy who says "not all men".
Unfortunately, there's good reason and precedence for such assumptions and precautions. It's enough to want to deck any guy who says "not all men".
A thing I try to remember is "more than one percent."
It's this simple. If somebody is physically stronger than someone else, and lusts after them sexually, then that person behaving like an ass is more BAD than 99 others in the same situation behaving like kind and decent people is GOOD.
Since this is the situation a lot of women are in W/R/T a lot of men, caution is justified even if 99/100 of all men are respectful and would never attempt coercion or manipulation.
And unfortunately as far as i can see it's more like 1 in 15 than it is like 1 in 100.
Do you prepare your questions too? Usually I get to ask them one thing (if I'm lucky) as I don't come up with any follow up question easily, especially if they ask me something in return. But recently I'm going over entire dialogue trees as well, and figured out you can force a certain dialogue path if you ask things you already know.I do try to predict where a conversation could go and have some answers ready. It can get extremely quiet around me and I have to remind myself to keep giving and asking for information even though I don't really need that data. Small talk was very difficult but it's gotten easier because of the repetitive dialogue.
Sounds familiar. Do you prepare your questions too?
I'm not dyslexic, but for some reason when I read the aabbreviation 'TSB' my brain goes "tablespoon" instead of "The Secret Bakery".
It's definitely Dora, with her new hairstyle, as shown on Jeph's Tumblr:
Dora Rae Jepsen (http://jephjacques.com/post/142529119875/dora-rae-jepsen)
Don't ask her. She'll never tell.
It's definitely Dora, with her new hairstyle, as shown on Jeph's Tumblr:
Dora Rae Jepsen (http://jephjacques.com/post/142529119875/dora-rae-jepsen)
I thought her surname was Bianchi?
Or was that one more of a nickname of her father's?
It's definitely Dora, with her new hairstyle, as shown on Jeph's Tumblr:
Dora Rae Jepsen (http://jephjacques.com/post/142529119875/dora-rae-jepsen)
I thought her surname was Bianchi?
Or was that one more of a nickname of her father's?
It reflects great credit on you that you have never heard of her
So I've already seen Monday's comic because of Patreon and I can't talk about it. I wonder if there's a feasible way to make a thread for patrons to talk about it.
Comments sections are comments sections, I want to talk about it with my friends.If that can't be done here, fine. But I figured I'd at least ask now that the Patreon comics are more than a couple hours before the public ones.
The benefits of the Patreon are a privilege given in exchange for your contributions; it would be an abuse of that privilege to discuss privileged matters outside the paywall.I honestly don't get this logic, though. How is it different from say, discussing Game of Thrones with someone who doesn't have HBO? Or buying an issue of a comic book and showing it to a friend?
Wouldn't the discussions be spoilers?Yes, but we have spoiler tags that can be clearly marked.
I honestly don't get this logic, though. How is it different from say, discussing Game of Thrones with someone who doesn't have HBO? Or buying an issue of a comic book and showing it to a friend?
I think the difference is subtle, but still there: what the patrons have paid for is not the comic; the comic is free. The patrons are seeing the comic early because the artist has decided to give them that reward for donating. Displaying or discussing the early comics ahead of when they are published for free sort of negates the reward aspect, in my opinion, and so it's less about sharing something you've bought than going against the wishes of the artist.I'm a patron of both QC and DoA, and in the DoA thread, I tend to write a response and just keep the tab open until it goes "live" and then post. It's just basic courtesy.
Again, that's all opinion - I don't have a window into Jeph's intentions, or know how he feels about the issue.
Yes, but we have spoiler tags that can be clearly marked.
hey, Shelby must eat.
so distributing it (or engaging in discussion that could give it away) is clearly going against his wishes. This is plain.
Yes, but we have spoiler tags that can be clearly marked.(click to show/hide)
Do you prepare your questions too? Usually I get to ask them one thing (if I'm lucky) as I don't come up with any follow up question easily, especially if they ask me something in return. But recently I'm going over entire dialogue trees as well, and figured out you can force a certain dialogue path if you ask things you already know.I do try to predict where a conversation could go and have some answers ready. It can get extremely quiet around me and I have to remind myself to keep giving and asking for information even though I don't really need that data. Small talk was very difficult but it's gotten easier because of the repetitive dialogue.