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Title: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 17 Dec 2013, 16:54

how the fuck am I just finding out now that they are making a Star Wars animated show that takes place 5 years before A New Hope?!  During the time of the rebellion!  This was all announced back in May!  :-o

After Disney took over Star Wars they cancelled the clone wars (I didn't know it was still on for 5 seasons, it was meh at times for me teetering between kiddy and teen angsty).  So now Disney is going to have their own Star Wars 3D show that takes place in the classic timeline.  The show is so far going to be centered around the imperial inquisition hunting down Jedi remnants.  This is the time line I was always interested.  About the rebellion before and between the 4-6 movies.  It'll be on Disney Channel around fall of 2014.  Kids will be exposed to stormtroopers once again! Huzzah! 

some concept art that they've released:

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/43df68e43383344dc361f4307e60b30f277ffa2c/c=120-24-1840-1317&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/10/12/1381608132000-the-inquisitor-star-wars-rebels.jpg)

(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/star-wars-rebels-the-inquisitor-1.jpg)

(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-rebels-concept-art-464x600.jpg)

(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-rebels-ghost-concept-art-600x337.jpg)

this is in no way related but I am going to place this right here:

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LookingIn on 18 Dec 2013, 11:11

The Clone Wars accomplished a lot in a short time period, they couldn't come up with much else that hadn't yet been done and when they have to bring back a villain that was clearly killed in the first movie they were over the hill with the show...

This should be interesting, it's a clear attempt to stir up interest in the franchise just in time for the movies to come in but in a way that isn't retroactive.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 11:27

well there will be another movie that isnt in the saga too from what's been leaked so who knows.  I'm just glad to see some classic star wars stuff to pop up and see what happens with the rebellion before Luke shows up.  Not to mention less jedi intensive things.  Jedi are over powered.
 :-P

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LookingIn on 18 Dec 2013, 11:44

Quote from: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 11:27

well there will be another movie that isnt in the saga too from what's been leaked so who knows.  :-P

They are actually part of the saga, it was always supposed to be three trilogies that evolved around a central theme that told a grander story but the final trilogy got put back by George Lucas' projects over the years.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 11:59

no, I mean they are continuing the saga with episode 7 but they are also planning a movie that takes place outside of the saga.  I just hope they don't end up like those god awful ewok movies...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LookingIn on 18 Dec 2013, 12:40

Quote from: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 11:59

no, I mean they are continuing the saga with episode 7 but they are also planning a movie that takes place outside of the saga.  I just hope they don't end up like those god awful ewok movies...

Ah, I see. I thought you were referring to the 2015 movie itself...

They have a template for doing what they are doing with the stand alone films- the Marvel Studios movies.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 12:44

so far Disney has done well with marvel, I am hoping their light touch with star wars has better luck than George's twilight years with the franchise has been.  Steering away from the new prequel trilogy back to the classic era is refreshing, for me at least.  :-)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LookingIn on 18 Dec 2013, 16:51

Quote from: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 12:44

so far Disney has done well with marvel, I am hoping their light touch with star wars has better luck than George's twilight years with the franchise has been.  Steering away from the new prequel trilogy back to the classic era is refreshing, for me at least.  :-)

I hate the hate for the prequel trilogy. It had bad moments, but so didn't the first trilogy. The only difference between the two in my not so humble opinion is one had years to grow a fanbase and that fanbase refuses to accept anything that isn't the 1970s crappy CGI and special effects backed movie.

Whatever comes from the movies is all on the new regime at Lucas Arts, all George did was give them his rough outline of the movies but everything else is to be added by the actual screenwriter(s).

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 21:29

My issue is more the fact that everything is all old republic stuff and I just really want to see more of the rebellion stuff.  Sure the original trilogy has its faults but the prequel trilogy just has way more glaring ones, to me anyways.  I still enjoy them but if I ever introduce anyone to the saga I always start with 4-6 then 1-3.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: blacksinow on 21 Dec 2013, 22:04

I know this is a bit OT, but I can't wait til the new star wars movie comes out so I can say "Ha! I fucking TOLD you that there wouldn't be Mickey Mouse in it!"

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 28 Dec 2013, 05:51

Quote from: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 21:29

My issue is more the fact that everything is all old republic stuff and I just really want to see more of the rebellion stuff.  Sure the original trilogy has its faults but the prequel trilogy just has way more glaring ones, to me anyways.  I still enjoy them but if I ever introduce anyone to the saga I always start with 4-6 then 1-3.

Prepare to nerd out, there are several ways of viewing the Star Wars hexology/saga.

1) Theatrical release order: IV, V, VI, I, II, III
2) Chronological order: I, II, III, IV, V, VI
3) The 'Ernst Rister order': IV, V, I, II, III, VI
4) The 'Machete order': IV, V, II, III, VI (note that Episode I is missing)

I like the last two because they actually focus on making the story make sense. From the original blog post that deals with the 'Machete Order':

Quote

Every character established in Episode I is either killed or removed before it ends (Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, Chancellor Valorum), unimportant (Nute Gunray, Watto), or established better in a later episode (Mace Windu, Darth Sidious).

He's kind of got a point. Without relying on the Plinket commentary, Episode 1, whether you love or hate it, is kind of irrelevant in this trilogy, and the saga itself. The idea that the story is left with the cliffhanger of Episode V, before fleshing out the story of Anakin Skywalker via Episodes II and III makes for a more satisfying conclusion in VI.

If you're going to introduce someone new to Star Wars, make it either options 3 or 4. Source (http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 28 Dec 2013, 09:27

A friend of mine has never seen star wars. I had planned to do the Machete order but everyone at the office demanded I let him watch it using the theatrical order. So far he has seen 4-6 and 1 and 2.  There is one difference though.  I am adding this (http://youtu.be/XTmIwOLfUlM) between 2 and 3.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Metope on 28 Dec 2013, 15:50

I'd never seen it either until recently, when my boyfriend who is a huge Star Wars geek showed it to me. He told me to watch 1, 2 and 3, and never bother with the rest.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 28 Dec 2013, 16:29

Lee - good call on the Clone Wars film! I think that the show gets better as it progresses.

Metope - that must be the first time I've ever heard someone say not to bother with the original trilogy. Did your boyfriend give a reason? He may be justified, or he might just have Incorrect Taste In Sci-Fi. Yes, I am the Star Wars Police. :police:

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 04 Feb 2014, 14:52

Star Wars: Rebel's facebook page has been mighty busy today, posting recruitment posters (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=114399) hours between themselves.  Perhaps an honest to god trailer coming out soon?

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/q81/s720x720/1009987_269964503160180_823372222_n.jpg)

(http://www.superherohype.com/assets/uploads/2014/02/SWRProp3.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/q71/s720x720/1656210_270001126489851_2082710625_n.jpg)

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2013/10/11/star-wars-rebels.jpg)

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/q71/s720x720/1622126_270031186486845_1153668678_n.jpg)

the executive producer gives me hope!
http://video.disney.com/watch/disneyxd-simon-kinberg-star-wars-rebels-profile-4edb0f5163252ff7919b0f22 (http://video.disney.com/watch/disneyxd-simon-kinberg-star-wars-rebels-profile-4edb0f5163252ff7919b0f22)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Feb 2014, 16:48

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/175/f/8/star_wars_rebels__mara_jade_by_engelha5t-d6aba71.jpg)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 04 Feb 2014, 16:51

I did the research and that is fan art (if its suppose to be mara jade)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Feb 2014, 17:18

Dang, cause I saw it with this originally
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/174/8/6/star_wars_rebels__the_emperor_s_hand_by_engelha5t-d6ab9pg.jpg)

Which also means this isn't real
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/195/b/c/star_wars_rebels___old_man_windu_by_engelha5t-d6ddm4w.jpg)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 04 Feb 2014, 17:54

yup, these too

(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131118083413/clonewarsadventurescharacter/images/b/b8/Star_Wars_Rebels_Princess_Leia_%28Fan_Art%29.jpg)

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/179/6/f/han_and_chewie__clone_wars_style__by_engelha5t-d6ay37m.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7Uev7kJbsWA/UlLSPnAU3aI/AAAAAAAAM2U/LAkOseVXwJw/s1600/1291644_573292282706536_1637237742_o.jpg)

just beautiful, beautiful fan art.  The producer said he wants brand new characters with a new story.  I am not saying Mara Jade will not show up, but as far as we know, nothing has come up of it.  They already said who the emperor has chasing the characters.  This dude:
(http://i0.wp.com/nerdbastards.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/star-wars-rebels-the-inquisitor-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 11 Feb 2014, 15:32

so we have our jedi cowboy
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/02/11/freddie-prinze-jr-star-wars-rebels-first-look/4802651/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/02/11/freddie-prinze-jr-star-wars-rebels-first-look/4802651/)
voiced by freddie prince junior.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/rebelf.jpg)

I am hopeful.  Freddie did a good job in the mass effect movie and in mass effect 3.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 13 Feb 2014, 15:34

Mass Effect...movie?

This guy looks like a stand in for Kyle Katarn. Which is cool, cos Kyle had the lost-my-father/jedi sensitivity of Luke, combined with the cocky, gun-toting brashness of Han.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 13 Feb 2014, 21:06

yeah they came out with a mass effect movie on the story Vega mentioned to shepard when they were sparing.  Its done in anime style.  I'd give it a 6 or 7 out of 10.  It was good but not exactly re-watchable.  If you are a huge ME fan, get it!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Mass_Effect_Paragon_Lost.png)
Mass Effect: Paragon Lost

anyways I am hoping he is Katarn like.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 14 Feb 2014, 15:09

Looks like we got our possible main character?

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: K1dmor on 17 Feb 2014, 08:43

 

 

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 19 Feb 2014, 15:52

Damn it, got the Star Wars Goosebumps for the first time since 2005.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 19 Feb 2014, 16:11

i'm super excited to see some old school star wars awesomeness!  Couple this with Battlefront 3 coming out... My cup runith over!

(http://i.imgur.com/lQvQlON.jpg)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Feb 2014, 18:41

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 24 Feb 2014, 09:32

hey now that Star Wars reigns are no longer in Mad Georgy's hands, I am willing to be optimistic with my favorite childhood sci-fantasy.

Steve Blum!

So far the crew is

Pilot: Twi'lek named Hera
Jedi/Captain?: Kanan
Muscle: Zeb
Street wise kid: Ezra
Droid/Mechanic: Chopper
Tough chick: Sabine

looks like we just need a companion and a doctor... :wink:

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: de_la_Nae on 01 Mar 2014, 18:56

Quote from: Lupercal on 13 Feb 2014, 15:34

This guy looks like a stand in for Kyle Katarn. Which is cool, cos Kyle had the lost-my-father/jedi sensitivity of Luke, combined with the cocky, gun-toting brashness of Han.

"What would you do without me, Kyle?"

"I'd be a content old man!"


Katarn and the X-Wing series are the best parts of the Expanded Universe. Years later my stupid brain still inserts parts of the dialogue from those games and books. Though I should point out I have a fondness for 'Truce at Bakura' and the Ssi-ruuk.


Also I'm sort of surprised no one's even talked about a Yuuzhon Vong movie yet.

EDIT: because I'm bad at quotes apparently.

EDIT AGAIN: i am the worst at quotes

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 01 Mar 2014, 22:00

Quote from: de_la_Nae on 01 Mar 2014, 18:56

Also I'm sort of surprised no one's even talked about a Yuuzhon Vong movie yet.

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/6d/Kyle.jpg)

to be perfectly honest I hope they fade from memory and never show up in the light of day as movie cannon.


of anything from the EU, I wouldn't mind seeing this:
(http://www.analoghype.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/grand-admiral-thrawn.jpg)
Staring Cumberbatch as Thrawn

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2014, 15:42

Seriously, some of the EU cover art is brilliant. Would genuinely love some posters made from the illustrations of those books - helped keep the "this could be a movie" idea alive.

It certainly would spice things up a bit if a new enemy would be unearthed. Even in the EU there was a fair amount of 'Remnant Empire' stuff.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: de_la_Nae on 05 Mar 2014, 19:35

I'm gonna go ahead and say this: on reflection, a couple movies for a reworking of the Ssi-Ruuvi concepts could actually be pretty tight. Put a Force user in the party, but don't normally make them the *main* character like Luke was, more like Han maybe. Explore the tensions a bit between a declining Empire and an already showing-cracks Alliance as it steps up to take the big boy's chair.  Really sell us a callously (but not sadistic) racist culture that values other species as glorified batteries, make that entechment thing all the awful, and make it be a sumbitch fight to break the back of the incursion fleet. Bonus points for a good depiction of the awkwardness of Rebels and Stormtroopers trying to work together on something for a change. Could be cool.

Or could fail pretty badly.




I think Cumberbatch as Thrawn might be neat, but I've actually committed Star Wars EU blasphemy and never bothered to read those yet. Yes, yes I know people say they're awesome, but I've been mostly out of SW for years by the time i heard of them. I *did* read one of those for-teenagers not-really-canon books that had him as a secondary character, seemed okay.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 06 Mar 2014, 12:39

I don't think you're missing out on the EU. My main EU experiences came from video games - and as a kid/teen, these are brilliant at immersing you back into Star Wars. I re-read the Jedi Academy Trilogy and didn't think too much of it...but there are interesting bits of info here and there. I honestly think Lando is one of the more interesting characters, just because you get to know him.

And they don't shy away from going Return of the Jedi and re-inventing the Death Star every now and then. Pretty sure one book deals with the Empire using the prototype Death Star, which is just a spherical frame, a room, and a laser, and a hutt-built "Darksaber" which is just a Death Star in a different shape.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: de_la_Nae on 06 Mar 2014, 13:47

Every other fucking day it's another superweapon.

One of the reasons I liked the X-Wing books so much, they sort of managed to avoid the worst of that. Bioterrorism and warlord fleets and stuff like that instead.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Mar 2014, 03:19

Hell the fourth book was all about economic terrorism and politics, while the Wraith Squadron books proved that you can have Fighter Jockies and Operators in the same squadron, even doing the same job.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: de_la_Nae on 08 Mar 2014, 07:04

Sandskimmer. ;_;

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Mar 2014, 10:31

Binging on The Clone Wars on Netflix makes me miss the original Clone Wars cartoon. Now I'm looking at the toys from the original series and seriously contemplating getting some of them.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: HauntingPoem on 13 Mar 2014, 20:56

I have to admit (slightly off topic but this conversation got me thinking about star wars again) that I am one of the Pro-Empire guys. Not a huge fan of the Rebels. Yea the Empire did terrible things, but overall I see them as more grey than black. The Rebels had different goals, but they didn't seem any better (and in some cases worse)

Now back on topic: Can't wait for the new show! I many not be a kid anymore but I like to feel like one every once in a while.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 14 Mar 2014, 07:19

I have to play devil's advocate here: How is blowing up an innocent peaceful populated planet in the grey area?
(http://wiki.starsidergalaxy.com/images/0/0c/Remember_alderaan.JPG)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Mar 2014, 07:31

Corran Horn is a massive EU Mary Sue... and one of my favorite characters ever.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 14 Mar 2014, 07:51

I would compare Palpatine's Empire more with the British Empire than say, Nazi Germany. They did horrible things at times and kept an iron grip... Exploiting natural resources from the natives... but as long as those natives 'knew their place' they were mostly left alone, and they kept order. It was still an oppressive regime though. And of course, the Emperor was evil with a capital EVIL, so naturally some of the highest officers (Grand Moff Tarkin, Darth Vader) did some of the worst things, and anything coming directly from the top was probably going to be bad for a lot of people. But for the most part, the Empire grew out of the Galactic Republic, which were just ordinary people. And the soldiers (post Clones, of course) were just people... Some good, some bad. They may have done good... but the price for that good was awfully darn high, even if you don't count things like Alderaan.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Mar 2014, 08:59

Stilling binging on The Clone Wars on Netflix. There are some odd time jumps and they don't really explain them.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Mar 2014, 16:35

Finished the shows TV run, on to the Netflix exclusive season

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 23 Mar 2014, 15:10

Finished the last season of The Clone Wars. Overall I'd have to say the series was ok but not great. Some strange episodes, mainly Jar Jar episodes, kept it from greatness. I will say it did get better overall as the series progressed, but the last few episodes were a strange ending to the series.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 23 Mar 2014, 18:41

It was probably strange because i think there was to be one final full season to wrap everything up but I could be wrong about that.  i will admit i have seen some episodes but not all.  Many of the episodes felt stale, too kiddy, or intended for teens/tweens to identify with (frustrated that their parents don;t see it their way blah blah blah).  Some episodes were good or interesting though.  All in all I'd say "meh"
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-32315-Han-Solo-shrug-gif-fuck-yeah-y-tTNM.gif)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 23 Mar 2014, 19:14

Also, they never really tied up what happened to Ashoka or Maul

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 23 Mar 2014, 19:38

I thought they did with Ashoka

(click to show/hide)

She left the order and went back to her home planet

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Kugai on 24 Mar 2014, 11:21

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 24 Mar 2014, 11:46

Man I'd put that in a spoiler considering CW just came out on netflix and not everyone has seen it.  :-P

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Mar 2014, 11:58

That video was from that last episode of season 5 though.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 24 Mar 2014, 16:26

Quote from: LeeC on 23 Mar 2014, 19:38

I thought they did with Ashoka

(click to show/hide)

She left the order and went back to her home planet

Yeah, but there's no way she's just gonna leave it there.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 24 Mar 2014, 16:45

Well, then 2 months later she came with the realization that she misses the order but order 66 happens and since anakin is behind it all she goes with it about the order trying to perform a coupe and just sticks with her own self until she dies of lightsaber radiation exposure.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 Apr 2014, 07:09

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Apr 2014, 03:17

http://www.nerdist.com/2014/04/lucasfilm-announces-the-future-of-the-star-wars-expanded-universe/

In short, the original EU is dead as of right now and a new unified canon will be in it's place. They might be keeping the Old Republic stuff because that came "before" the current setting. So all the Stackpole books including Rogue Squadron and I, Jedi, The Courtship of Princess Leia, Splinter of the Mind's Eye, Kyle Katarn, Jan Ors and the rest of the "Dark Forces" crew, Mara Jade, and any million other characters from books, movies and games are gone. They'll still be in print (the books at least) via demand under the Legends series, but I'd expect that to rack the price up. So if you have favorite Star Wars EU books, you need to hop on Amazon and buy them NOW before the out of print scares really get rolling.

Curse you mouse! Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurse you!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4TFy3Hpm9xE/T1BKevtaMpI/AAAAAAAACeE/9UsB1WUeO-E/s320/Noooooooo.jpg)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Pilchard123 on 26 Apr 2014, 03:49

I think you mean http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 26 Apr 2014, 05:22

Welcome to a reboot, enjoy the ride (you don't enjoy the ride)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 Apr 2014, 07:33

I'm really not surprised by this. I was pretty much expecting the EU plots to be thrown out or repurposed. They had always occupied a grey area anyway. I wonder though. The press release specifically mentions that they are talking about the post-Jedi works, which is where the new trilogy will be occupying in the timeline. So will pre- and mid- movie EU stuff still be valid? That would still give us the events of the Old Republic and various Lucasarts Star Wars games and related stories. Just not tying themselves into Han, Leia and Luke's kids, the Yuuzhan Vong and all of that stuff that came after it. Sadly it probably means fan favorites like Mara Jade will never see the light of movie screens now though.

As far as Rebels go... I'm really liking Hera the most out of the characters. I'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around Sabine, the Mandalorian warrior/grafitti artist... Though her name makes me wonder if she had any relation to Duchess Satine from Clone Wars...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2014, 20:05

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2014, 19:25

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 05 May 2014, 11:27

I'm sold.  Haven't had star wars goosebumps like this in awhile.  :-D

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: dr. nervioso on 09 May 2014, 08:27

So I just finished clone wars- sort of (I skipped a few episodes). I think I will like this series better because space pirates>clones.

I am looking forward to this series. But then again, I look forward to anything involving lightsabers

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 May 2014, 15:37

Honestly, I think the clones were the best part of The Clone Wars. The clone centric episodes were the best episodes

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 11 May 2014, 04:17

I have to agree with you on that one. The clones are cool. Likeable. Although the Clone Wars are pretty Jedi-centric, clones and bounty hunters are pretty awesome too, usually involved in well-written and interesting story arcs. Not over powered. It's the muddied Jedi power-use that confuses me in certain episodes. But I suppose the prequels were like that anyway.

I'm on Season 2 now, does Ahsoka become less annoying in time?

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: dr. nervioso on 11 May 2014, 12:50

Sort of?

You do get used to her, but yeah I didn't quite like her until the end.

My favorite part of the series is

(click to show/hide)

When ventress becomes a bounty hunter. Actually, i like ventress in general

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 11 May 2014, 13:50

I just finished up season 5 last night.  So whats left is season 6 which never aired if I recall.  Some of the episodes are just too cliche and dumb down for my liking.  And some of the stories and arcs are too stale, lacking emotion or allow you to forget there is really a war at all.  There are some story arcs and stand alone episodes that are just brilliant.  Like the Onderon rebellion story arc was amazing.  Unlike watching the clones get picked off one by one in an episode, watching those rebels die made you feel something IMHO. It was also closer to the end of the series when they started to show people actually die on screen, and brutally at that. 

Also am I the only one who noticed how white washed the mandalorians are?

It would have been cooler/more interesting if the clones where actually random citizens in the republic. Then making the "clone wars" about an evil clone army attacking the republic (a la Uruk-hai from LotR) and the republic having to militarize.  This allowing Palpatine to seize power to establish order and win the war.  Centralizing the military from various armies of the republic into one big military loyal to him.  Later with his elite loyal citizen brigade called "storm troopers" to help wipe out the Jedi and secure his position in the government.

Just a note this is the standard Imperial Grunt:
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Then the storm troopers were suppose to be the advanced assault troopers, best of the best.  You'd think they were the standard grunt and not the elite troopers/ person guard of the imperial elite the way they show them.

Quote from: Lupercal on 11 May 2014, 04:17

I'm on Season 2 now, does Ahsoka become less annoying in time?

As time goes by yes, but I fell like certain story arcs contradict lessons and experiences learned in previous episodes (sometimes the one right before the one you are watching).

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 13 May 2014, 17:21

sooooo...season 6 AKA the "Netflix only" season of clone wars

just watched the first episode.  Wow. Like what the hell happened the the "kid friendly" attitude and writing of seasons 1-5.  It was completely gone! YAY!  :-D  This particular episode was pretty brutal. Palpatine sounded different, like a different voice actor.  The animation looks better than 1-5 too, way more details. Also barely any droid talk.

edit: It sounded like Tim Curry so I looked it up, yup they had him take over.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Blue Kitty on 15 May 2014, 06:44

He was at the end of the 5th season I think, at least when he confronted Maul

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 21 Jul 2014, 18:52

So I finished Season 6 of CW today, the last 3 episodes are just amazing!

Now watching the movie that started up the CW series (I know I probably should have watched it first but whadda ya gonna do)
 :-P

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 22 Jul 2014, 08:31

I remember the movie being quite a bland introduction to the series, but I only watched it once, so I may be blanking the good parts.

Also, extended trailer. Strangely, Obi-Wan without exaggerated features is going to take some getting used to...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 22 Jul 2014, 09:33

That trailer is amazing.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Jul 2014, 09:47

It is. I am really psyched for the series to start up. To bad I won't be able to see it until it comes out on something other than Disney XD...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Lupercal on 22 Jul 2014, 16:46

Can we hope Netflix will get it?

Lee - I know, right? I can't imagine how excited I'm going to be about the new film if I'm getting giddy over the TV series. This is a great time to be a Star Wars fan.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Jul 2014, 18:53

I imagine Netflix will pick it up in a year or so. That's about how long I had to wait to see Tron Legacy. It's still going to be a pain to have everyone talking about it when I can't see it though.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 05 Oct 2014, 19:55

Saw the pilot episode.  Not sure how I feel about it.  The pace was too fast in my opinion with a lot of cliche moments.  Seems rough around the edges but most pilot episodes are (shoot the first season of Parks and Rec was rough!).  Hoping it grows nicely.  Liked it way better than clone wars so far.

some nit picks:
Empire are big dicks for the sake of being dicks and are super incompetent to boot (no redeeming factors).
The ship gets in and out of places way too easily that its bothersome.
wow they just straight up kill imperials with no remorse.  Like ridiculously so.  They go through them like copy paper.

I know its a kids show and I am probably looking at it too harshly but wow.  :psyduck:

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Oct 2014, 09:03

I enjoyed the first two parter as well, but I do have to agree with a lot of the complaints you brought up. Scrambling signature and stealth fields or not, landing on a Star Destroyer without anyone noticing until you were on board is just silly. Agent Kallas makes a nice counter point to the incompetent bullies of the other imperial officers we see so far though. He's smart, loyal and not cartoonishly evil. Aside from the end bit of kicking one of his own men into a pit... Hopefully Ezra/Aladdin will grow into something more than a stereotype quickly. I know he's supposed to be the viewer surrogate but I find most of his character to just be annoying and way to tropey.

The art style.. I'll get used to it. I got used to and even appreciated Clone Wars. But the jarring mix of cartoony characters and by the movies Imperial designs is a bit jarring. Hopefully the pacing will get better as well. It really did seem they tried to fit a 90 minute movie into 44 minutes to make a two parter. There was to much speeding through plot lines to fit in everything they wanted to introduce. I think it probably would have been better to make a 3 part intro.

In all though, I look forward to seeing more. If only it wasn't exclusive to Disney XD.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 06 Oct 2014, 09:30

Ezra pretty much is Aladdin.  They even refer to him as street rat! Not ally womprat or anything. He's gotta eat to live gotta live to eat...

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Scrambling signature and stealth fields or not, landing on a Star Destroyer without anyone noticing until you were on board is just silly.

I know right?! it was just absurd!

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Agent Kallas makes a nice counter point to the incompetent bullies of the other imperial officers we see so far though. He's smart, loyal and not cartoonishly evil.

I have high hopes for his character and I am praying he doesn't become demoted to just a side character that reports to the inquisitor guy.

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Aside from the end bit of kicking one of his own men into a pit...

I know Vader just went though incompetent officers like crazy but seeing this was just awful.  Maybe I don't know ISB that well but again, going through storm troopers like copy paper.   :facepalm:

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the jarring mix of cartoony characters and by the movies Imperial designs is a bit jarring.

The Storm trooper helmets just look ridiculous.  Like bobble heads.

I like the crew so far but I just do not like the design for the jedi dude.  The costume is great but his body looks like he was made of boxes.  Everyone else has a great design!  I hope Sabine doesn't become the stereotypical "crush" character for Aladdin.  The pilot (team mom) and the muscle dude seem pretty cool.

I hope the show finds its stride but yeah Disney XD is making me have to find other was of watching it...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Oct 2014, 10:15

Hera, the pilot and Chopper are my favorites so far. It's even got me to play Star Wars The Old Republic with my long languishing Twi'lek smuggler...  I would think that Sabine and Zeb should stand out a lot more if they keep hitting Imperial outposts. I mean a young girl in pink Mando armor and a giant blueish alien should get some notices... I don't think Kallas will be shoved out of the spot light for the Inquisitor. They've apparently put a lot into his design and background. More that was revealed in this episode.

Storm Troopers were always pretty expendable in the movies too. What's the point of faceless mooks if you can't use them like tissues? We're not talking Jango clones at this point either. Just guys who joined up the military. Which honestly probably makes it worse that they are so expendable. I mean they've got to have families and stuff. Not just cloned warriors. The ISB can be pretty ruthless.. but killing a guy just because he make a joke when you were pissed... Pretty not cricket there. Kallas apparently has some anger issues.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 18 Apr 2015, 20:38

I've only seen 3-4 episodes of the series but after seeing this trailer, i really need to pick it back up again.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 19 Apr 2015, 05:55

Was going to post this video. :) I got seriously happy and excited watching this... I jumped up in my chair and shouted with glee when a certain Clone Wars alumni made his appearance... I think this season may well be even better than the first. It's a good time to be a Star Wars fan.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Kugai on 19 Apr 2015, 12:49

So, any bets on Vader and Ashoka winding up trading Sabre blows?

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 19 Apr 2015, 18:19

I would be surprised if they didn't, probably somewhere around the 3/4 mark of the season.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Kugai on 19 Apr 2015, 20:19

I wonder if we'll get a "I am your father!" moment between them or will she already know who he is/was.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Apr 2015, 05:57

I would really like to see Asajj Ventress added to the cast at some point. Or at least find out what her fate turned out to be. Though I wonder if we haven't seen her in the trailer... The smaller, slimmer new inquisitor (?) they showed in the video was entirely masked, and the little bit of action they showed seemed like she was fighting in a style somewhat similar to Asajj. It's really just hopeful speculation on my part at this point... but I can see it making a certain amount of sense. I was kind of hoping after leaving their respective masters and groups behind and working together, Ahsoka and Asajj would team up in the bounty hunting business... But I could very much see Vader finding her and giving her the choice to join his Inquisitors or die. She is neither Jedi nor Sith but has great skill and mastery of the Force. She spent some time doing hunting work, the sort of thing an Inquisitor would be doing and she was often enough fairly successful when she was working for Count Dooku. Usually she was more than a match for anyone who wasn't a main character in the Clone Wars cartoon. Even then she would often fight both Obi Wan and Anakin to a standstill.

Mostly though, I just want to see more of my favorite character. :)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 20 Apr 2015, 06:01

I have a feeling she'll show up at some point or another.

As for snips...I think Vader is going to kill her by the end of the season or so.

Again these are mere guesses as I haven't caught up, nor do I know how I could catch up.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 21 Oct 2015, 09:34

Well, I came across this.  I really need to watch this show. Vader is down right scary.  If only I had a way of watching it.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Oct 2015, 09:54

I have the first season on DVD and it's well worth it. Some people are down on it because of it's simplified art style but I got past that. I feel you on not being able to watch it. I hate that they keep putting these great shows on Disney XD, I don't even have the option to get that channel. There are.. other options of course. I will say if you want to watch the show just for Vader, he only appears at the very end of Season 1 (like just a walk on as the show is closing) and in the one hour season 2 premier Siege of Lothal. He's not a recurring character in the show. And rightfully so. He's handled masterfully but he's way above the power curve for the cast as they are now.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 15 Jan 2016, 11:22

I said it before and I'll say it again.  I really need to pick up this show.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Jan 2016, 11:43

I just watched and it is so awesome. I'm going to have to sit down soon and go scene by scene. There is so much info to unpack in that trailer, and it looks like it's going to be an awesome half season...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Akima on 19 Jan 2016, 18:16

I have to say... the narrower, more laser-beamy, lightsaber blades look vicious! In a good way!

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Tova on 19 Jan 2016, 18:25

Okay, I need to acquire this.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Jan 2016, 06:32

The first season is out on DVD!

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 28 Mar 2016, 05:18

So....Ezra...."Old Master"... Kanan...

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Maul vs Vader is in season finale...I think Ezra is going to go sith....

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 31 Mar 2016, 06:03

Shit went down yesterday, some real shit went down.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Kugai on 04 Apr 2016, 18:33

Contains a small spoiler for anyone who has yet to see the Vader/Asoka face-off.

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So, Asoka survived.  That leaves a lot hanging in the air if/when the Series resumes and leaves a lot of questions in regards to the upcoming Movies if they leave it at that.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 Apr 2016, 18:48

Yeah, it was pretty intense. It was pretty much 'Second movie in the trilogy' levels of intense. And like Empire Strikes Back, nobody walked out unscathed. They really  hit their marks a lot faster with Rebels than they did with Clone Wars, which should be no surprise to anyone. Now the agony of waiting till the new season arrives later this year.

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I've seen people trying to explain how Ahsoka is actually dead, even though we clearly saw her walking away into the temple at the end. Dave Filoni has already said they are not done with her yet, though we won't find out her eventual fate for some time... So I don't expect her to show up again until the very end of Season 3, if then. She might not even show up in the show at all again, and just have a book or comic reveal her final fate.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jul 2016, 12:06

Season 3.

Three words:
Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Jul 2016, 22:50

It's exciting that they're rescuing Thrawn from the dustbin of the old EU, but kind of a waste to use him in Rebels.  This is only a few years before Episode IV, isn't it?  So he'll get a few episodes/a full season to be a bad-ass, only to have his accomplishments swept under the rug by the time A New Hope takes place.   He would work so much better as a post-RotJ villain, as he was originally.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: BenRG on 24 Nov 2016, 04:58

I'm hoping that Thrawn will be as significant a figure in the post-RoTJ revised canon as he was in the old EU, maybe even more significant. Maybe he was the reason (either by intent or simply due to the fact of his presence) that the old Rebel leadership was marginalised by the New Republic.

In my current headcanon, he was responsible for the 'birth' of Lord Snoke as a threat by arranging the assassination of Sabine Wren, Duchess of Mandalore and wife of Jedi Master Ezra Bridger.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Case on 24 Nov 2016, 13:17

Quote from: BenRG on 24 Nov 2016, 04:58

I'm hoping that Thrawn will be as significant a figure in the post-RoTJ revised canon as he was in the old EU, maybe even more significant. Maybe he was the reason (either by intent or simply due to the fact of his presence) that the old Rebel leadership was marginalised by the New Republic.

In my current headcanon, he was responsible for the 'birth' of Lord Snoke as a threat by arranging the assassination of Sabine Wren, Duchess of Mandalore and wife of Jedi Master Ezra Bridger.

But "When I am gone, the last of the Jedi will you be ..."? (E.g. I vaguely recall that being an item of discussion between Luke & Mara when they encounter Joruus C'Baoth ... though that was EU)

There can't be any (Order-trained) Jedi prior to RoTJ, no? (Probably not even prior to A new Hope, though technically, nobody ever said that Ben & Yoda were the last Order-trained survivors until RoTJ)

That's also a minor peeve of mine about Rebels: Jedi apprentices all over the place. You know they'll all either die, or fall to the dark side.  :oops:

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Nov 2016, 13:43

Or that Yoda didn't know about them. Remember that after Order 66 the Jedi who did not die scattered to far planets and went into hiding. Many probably forswore/hid their abilities like Kanan did. Yoda and Obi-wan knew of each other and the Skywalker children since they were there together at the end. They had no idea if anyone else had survived. Obi-wan sent out a Holocron message, the one Kanan had, warning everyone to go into hiding. And some must exist, since there is an entire order of Inquisitors devoted to finding and then either recruiting or killing them. They can't spend all their time finding untrained force users in the Imperial Academies or hunting down force sensitive infants. Which is the other thing, though technically true. There are plenty of other force sensitive beings and younglings out there who were never Jedi. Some might argue that it might be time for the Jedi to fade out and a new order of force users to take it's place.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: BenRG on 24 Nov 2016, 23:43

That Yoda line is a huge continuity sword hanging over things, isn't it? Kanan and Ezra's very existence strikes me as potentially an enormous continuity flaw. If I'd been involved in the creation of Rebels, I would have fought tooth-and-nail against having any Jedi in it other than a possible Obi-Wan cameo because of this. I would argue that it wasn't necessary to tell the story of the early day of the various uprisings against the Empire.

One explanation (and one that I like) is that Yoda was quite capable of lying by omission if need be and that, by keeping Ezra and Luke away from each other, he was trying to create a 'firewall' where one falling or getting killed would only minimally endanger the other. I did get the impression in ESB and RotJ that Yoda felt that Luke was an imperfect tool at best and he thus wasn't likely to take his last Padawan into his confidence about the back-up Jedi involved with one of the other Rebel factions.

Another possibility is that Kanan was so good at masking his Force signature (and taught Ezra to do the same) that Yoda wasn't aware of them.

The final possibility is that Yoda was a bit of a snob; in his view, anyone not trained by a Temple-recognised Master and anyone not recognised as a Jedi by a Master of the Order weren't really 'Jedi'. So, Ezra and Ashoka were just force-using renegades, not true Jedi.

The simple fact that Rebels is prominently placed in the official canon suggests that Ezra's story is going to turn out to be super-significant for the long-term continuity of Star Wars, which is why I suspect that he and the crew of the Ghost are going to turn out to have a significant influence in Sequel Trilogy events.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Nov 2016, 05:47

It's not the first time that an off hand comment made earlier in the series painted themselves into a corner, causing them to tap dance around it or outright ignoring it. Consider the Sith 'Rule of Two'. Though that I think was at least partially misinterpreting the line to people thinking there were only ever two Sith, period. Instead of just a master/apprentice relationship where if you saw one Sith, another was involved as well. Even back to the original trilogy you had Palpatine and Vader wanting to convert Luke, which would have broke it. In the prequels there was Sidious, Maul and Count Dooku all as Sith at the same time Palpatine was trying to tempt Anakin. Yes technically Dooku didn't show up until after Maul was dead... And Anakin didn't 'fall to the dark side'  until after he killed Dooku. But that's what I mean about 'tap dancing around'. More directly you have Asajj Ventress and the Inquisitors, who they go out of their way of saying aren't Sith... Even though they are dark side force users trained by Sith. So they're getting off by a technicality of 'You are not a Jedi because I refuse to admit you are a Jedi, even through you were trained by one to become just like one.'

Ahsoka was a Jedi. A padawan is still a Jedi. But she left the ranks to go her own way after they tried to set her up to go to jail. Technically it was one Jedi in particular, but everyone else was totally ready to throw her under the bus.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 Nov 2016, 12:28

Alternatively, Yoda didn't consider Jarrus to be a full Jedi knight and basically gave him up for dead.
Or...
The backlash of sensing the deaths of so many Jedi left Yoda confused.

As for Ezra and the rest of the Ghost, I imagine they are going to get killed off sometime before the the destruction of Alderaan. Just so they won't interfere with the later timeline.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Nov 2016, 21:33

Final episode of Rebels: The crew of the Ghost decides to visit their friend and fellow Rebel Bail Organa at the wrong time...

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Kugai on 26 Nov 2016, 11:02

The Star Wars version of rocks fall, everyone dies?

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 04 Jan 2017, 09:45

I havnt had a chance to catch up on season 3 yet, but this mid season trailer looks amazing!

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: BenRG on 04 Jan 2017, 15:06

So, everything finally reaches its final climax.

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The united Rebel Alliance is born...

Fulcrum's cover seems likely to be blown...

Sabine Wren... daughter of Bo Katan... weilder of the Darksaber... The Mandelore...

... and Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Maul finally settle their long-overdue mutual debts.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 21 Mar 2017, 08:28

Watched the Kenobi vs Maul fight.

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Loved it! Was like a Kurosawa movie!

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: BenRG on 21 Mar 2017, 08:33

Does anyone else think that this is going to be the last season of Rebels? All of the plot-lines that are not associated with the Original Trilogy in some way are being wrapped up.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Mar 2017, 08:47

They've already signed off on the next season.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: LeeC on 15 Apr 2017, 09:22

It would appear they are going full ret con and are making the old commando from RotJ into Rex.  It was initially just a fan theory, but the creators of rebels liked it so much they are doing it.  So goes the rumor mill.

(http://i.imgur.com/APg6Kes.png)

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(http://i.imgur.com/SmYfCly.png)

And if the Star Wars twitter is true, next season will rap up the series
https://twitter.com/starwars/status/853277504827662338 (https://twitter.com/starwars/status/853277504827662338)

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: BenRG on 15 Apr 2017, 12:37

"May the Force be with you." Jyn Erso said that too, before Rogue One went into their final, glorious and fatal battle. I wonder if this is why we never saw the Ghost Rebels in the Original Trilogy - Because it is their destiny to die to save the hope for freedom, just as the heroes of Rogue One also died.

Oh and...

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Hera/Kanan and Ezra/Sabine shipping confirmed  :wink:

Title: Re: Star Wars: Rebels
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Apr 2017, 13:15

Was there any real doubt of the shipping? They've been pointing at it for three seasons now. Also, keep in mind that at the very least, the Ghost, Hera and Chopper survived till the end of Rogue One, as they were in the movie. And that lead directly into A New Hope. The reason we didn't see them in the first three movies is they of course didn't exist yet.