This would seem to say that people are actually perpetually at their current age, Simpsons like.
If you were Bart's age when the first season aired, you're close to if not exactly Homer and Marge's age now.This would seem to say that people are actually perpetually at their current age, Simpsons like.
Actually, if you take into account that Marge is Age 34 in Season 1 (and Homer subsequently implying Marge is the same as his age, so around 36-40 in latter Seasons) , Bart theoretically should be in his 30's if age was let to progress "naturally."
Whoa that little time? I'd like to think Marten and Claire knew each other a bit longer. I figured the summer interns popped in the middle of Spring or nearing the end of that term with a few weeks to go.
From the seasons I calculated that Dora and Marten were together for about 15-18 months. From memory:
First kiss happened at the end of winter/start spring (it was still cold)
Happies happned throughout summer
They went drunk sledging that winter (Will was on his quest then)
We see them through sping and the break up happened at the height of summer
He has to know that the average reader has completely forgotten that Marten and Claire have only known each other for a couple of months if that is his artistic intention.
I definitely like the work that has gone into this. I often wonder how much thought Jeph puts into timelines. He has to know that the average reader has completely forgotten that Marten and Claire have only known each other for a couple of months if that is his artistic intention. It's almost like someone needs to remind him. The only problem is that everyone is too happy for him to do that. :)I'm not surprised by the time frame. All they've done is kiss and say they like each other, a very reasonable thing to do after two months.
I've started attacking this from the other end and have fleshed out some of the existing stuff in the first ~230 strips which appear to all have taken place in a time frame that runs from November-December of the first year.
I'm at a bit of an impasse about what to do around the time of 164-269.Let's just say it was a fall midterm break. Many schools have one in October in parallel to the Easter holiday in the spring semester.
It just doesn't seem to me like Amanda would be telling her mom about failing all her classes "last semester" if she had spent an entire Summer break and half of a semester beforehand.
Alternate theory is that Jeph really was just making a timely joke about Thanksgiving without any thought to the implications that could have on a timeline 12 years later and that though being canon should not be regarded in a high fashion.
Yeah, clearly there is a reason Jeph's answer to how much comic time has elapsed is "a year or two". We could try constructing a long timeline and a short one and then see which seems less unreasonable. Or we could just throw up our hands and declare that 0-1300 take place in a temperate neverwhen that starts in November, ends in Setember, lasts for 60 days, and is immediately preceded by winter break.Time travel is involved. It's Pintsize's fault.
I've been doing a lot of work on the wiki's timeline article lately. It is currently the very end of summer, about fifteen weeks since Tai's end-of-semester party. This will (barely) fit into Smith College's real-life academic calendar (the last three weeks of May plus the 13 weeks of summer), provided that the students all start classes within like, the next hundred strips. Soon the the brilliant New England autumn will be upon us! Claire, Emily, Cosette and Raven (what happened to Raven?) will be nose-deep in their studies, and everyone will pull on their warm jackets.
Here's how it worked out in the spreadsheet:
(http://i.imgur.com/okGYPqX.png)
This is highly impressive - is there any direct link for updates available?
Yeah, clearly there is a reason Jeph's answer to how much comic time has elapsed is "a year or two". We could try constructing a long timeline and a short one and then see which seems less unreasonable. Or we could just throw up our hands and declare that 0-1300 take place in a temperate neverwhen that starts in November, ends in Setember, lasts for 60 days, and is immediately preceded by winter break.Time travel is involved. It's Pintsize's fault.
I put it on the wiki (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline) in 100 strip chunks. Is there another format you'd like to see it in?
I put it on the wiki (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline) in 100 strip chunks. Is there another format you'd like to see it in?
Parchment.
Holy crap that's impressive. So Marten and Claire have known each other about two months when they begin dating, and the next semester is about to start.It could be worse. It could be a summer that last for over one thousand years.
A little under a thousand strips. Talk about an endless summer. Whuf.
The problem with trying to use RL events as a guide is that Jeph has said before (don't have a link to where he said it, but I remember it) that QC takes place in "comic book time (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ComicBookTime)" - the characters keep pace with RL events even though not enough time has passed in-comic to justify it.Considering Jeph tastes it is more like Yotauba&!
As for print stuff, I read a lot of manga, my favorites being Yotsuba&! and Vagabond. The only “mainstream” comic I read is Hellboy/BPRD.http://www.newsarama.com/7671-jeph-jacques-brings-questionable-content-to-webcomics.html
Masterpiece, your icon straight up gave me the willies.
Good job.
726 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=726) Tai: "There was SO much drama on my dorm floor last night".
So this must be the spring semester of Tai's final year.
I'm now fully persuaded by the long timeline hypothesis. 48 is autumn, Amanda's visit in 164-185 happens over winter break, and Ellen is back in class by 247, with 1302/1311 time-skipping from early october into mid-January.
The problem with trying to use RL events as a guide is that Jeph has said before (don't have a link to where he said it, but I remember it) that QC takes place in "comic book time (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ComicBookTime)" - the characters keep pace with RL events even though not enough time has passed in-comic to justify it.
What? I did a quick edit after I posted because another thought occurred to me and I didn't want to double-post. Did I mess something up?
ETA: Another late-breaking thought: If Claire transitioned in 2000 and wasn't strongly engaged with an age-appropriate community of trans friends while she did so, her stealth presentation and lack of radical politics make way more sense.
I do one intervention. One single intervention in the time thread. Right off the top of my head. AND I FUCK EVERYTHING UP. WELL DONE OSAKA.
Why wouldn't they make sense? Living her life the way she sees herself would be much harder if she was screaming about the topic to anyone she could make listen at all times. Her average day would be like the forums here where it comes up in every conversation about her, overshadowing the rest of her _character_. You know, all that stuff that makes her a pretty neat person instead of just a prop for other people to use for their radical agendas.
I still don't understand what you fucked up, though.I do one intervention. One single intervention in the time thread. Right off the top of my head. AND I FUCK EVERYTHING UP. WELL DONE OSAKA.
At some point it's stopped showing timestamps for edits. Maybe it happens when the edits are made in the same minute the reply is posted. But it was weird not seeing it.
Her average day would be like the forums here where it comes up in every conversation about her, overshadowing the rest of her _character_.
Her average day would be like the forums here where it comes up in every conversation about her, overshadowing the rest of her _character_.
It wouldn't, in a community like Tai's, whence the somewhat confusing dissonance.
It's not so much a matter of screaming about it for the sake of screaming about it. Being in a community of trans people (and well educated cis allies)
non-trans--I won't use THAT wordYou mean the word that specifically means "non-trans"?
non-trans--I won't use THAT wordYou mean the word that specifically means "non-trans"?
Really? Who brought up her transition?
The word isn't really consistent with a gender critical world view.
http://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/a-feminist-critique-of-cisgender/
If you want to keep talking about the timeline, that's fine, but if you want to pick bones with my vocabulary, please do it by PM or start a thread in Discuss.I'm not sure this constitutes bone picking. Just a stated preference that was challenged by a mod.
This is a fine conversation to have in another thread, please.
At some point it's stopped showing timestamps for edits. Maybe it happens when the edits are made in the same minute the reply is posted. But it was weird not seeing it.
Regarding Jeph's Q&As...those never take precedence over actual canon (comic). I guess they're the next best thing, though?
Is it possible the strip is on a Tuesday, because the Monday was a holiday?
If you guys ever get the QC timeline figured out, maybe you can explain the Legend of Zelda chronology and divergent timelines next. :psyduck:
If you guys ever get the QC timeline figured out, maybe you can explain the Legend of Zelda chronology and divergent timelines next. :psyduck:But that was completely explained in a (Nintendo official) book a few years ago! Check out "Hyrule Historia".
So by my count it's Wednesday after Labor Day 2006-ish, classes start tomorrow, and Tai is hosting a library debauch "this Friday". Looks like everything lined up perfectly!
Only one small thing: Claire was wearing a "ReaderCon '09" shirt at one point. (Strip 2371?)
QC operates in comic time. It is simultaneously 2006 and 2015. I blame post-singularity tech.
wow...that's a lot of work... thanks for undertaking this!Agreed in spades.
Did you also do this for the first 1600 comics? I wasnt able to find anything like that.
Wait, why are we using real-life Smith? Maybe Smif is slightly different than Smith?
Wait, why are we using real-life Smith? Maybe Smif is slightly different than Smith?
I mean we don't necessarily have to? But what else would we use instead? I find a little structure to be helpful.
I imagine it’s been at least a couple years in comic-time since the strip started. I think Marten and Dora dated for maybe 9 months their time?
I can't believe it's been summer for 5 years.Northampton, Westeros.
Any minute now Nicole and Murphy from Quantum Vibe will break through the inter-universal barrier and decide to stick around.
Any minute now Nicole and Murphy from Quantum Vibe will break through the inter-universal barrier and decide to stick around.
Is it just me, or would "Quantum Vibe" be a great name for a shop that specializes in sex toys for nerds?
I can't believe it's been summer for 5 years.Northampton, Westeros.
(Was Tai's library party off-panel?)Probably pushed back a week.
Probably pushed back a week.
Probably pushed back a week.
On account of Tai's friend-of-a-friend overdoing it? I hope it happened off panel, because I'm going to tear my hair out trying to make it fit otherwise.
2875-2883: Thursday. Faye gets blackout drunk and spends a night in the hospital.
-- costume change: Dora from 2880/2886. --
2884-2893: Friday. (Was Tai's library party off-panel?)
2894-present: Saturday.
| Sat | 2772-2780 | Dora resolves to cut Sven out of her life. |
| Sun | ||
| Mon | ||
| Tue | ||
| Wed | 2781-2801 | Angus leaves for New York. Claire flirts with Marten at work. |
| Thu | 2802-2820 | Marten asks Claire out. Angus gets the part. Faye breaks up with him. |
| Fri | 2821-2848 | Marten and Claire get dinner. Marigold asks Momo to be her roommate. Faye starts binging. |
| Sat | 2840-2874 | Marten and Claire set Clinton up with Emily. Tai posts flyers for a library party of Friday. Faye acts out at work and drinks all night. |
| Sun | 2875-2883 | Dora catches Faye drinking at work, fires her. Faye gets blackout drunk and spends a night in the hospital. |
| Mon | 2884-2893 | Faye sleeps off her hangover. Marten and Claire have sex. |
| Tue | 2894- | present. Faye's Wednesday support group is meeting tomorrow. |
College libraries are open seven days a week. Them working five days a week and having two days that aren't the weekend off wouldn't be that strange.
The only room for a jump is still between 2780 and 2781. This gives us:
Sat 2772-2779 Dora resolves to cut Sven out of her life.
Sun thru Tuesday 2780 Hannelore learns a lot about wieners.
Wed 2781-2801 Angus leaves for New York.
Only during the semester. If we're going by the 2006 calendar, that means they stayed in from work on the first day of class. If it's 2005, then classes still haven't started yet. And I maintain that it doesn't feel there there are three days missing between 2776 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2776) and 2784 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2784).
It's dead, Jim.
But if everything else from the last thousand strips fits,
why not just handwave this one little inconsistency? Meh, three-day gap, good enough.
And I maintain that it doesn't feel there there are three days missing between 2776 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2776) and 2784 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2784).
Only during the semester.
IMHO, the place to put the gap is between 2842 and 2849. Hannelore and Juicy has no real chronological link with the other strips and doesn't have to be the next day or anything similar.
Faye's wearing the same shirt in 2841 and 2845, and still has it on in 2850 after spending the night on the couch.
Faye's wearing the same shirt in 2841 and 2845, and still has it on in 2850 after spending the night on the couch.
Faye's wearing the same shirt in 2841 and 2845, and still has it on in 2850 after spending the night on the couch.
And the dialogue in 2849 makes it clear that Clinton has just found out about Claire's date with Marten. No room for a gap here.
What scares me is that I'm somewhere between Jim (TSB owner/Sam's dad) and Amir's age. In fact, Samantha is probably old enough to be my daughter...
| Memorial Day | 2884-2893 | Marten and Claire get more comfortable. |
| Tuesday | 2894-2911 | Hanners helps Faye stay on the wagon. Dora picks a fight with Tai. |
| Wednesday | 2912-2941 | Faye picks up her welding gear from Coffee of Doom and attends a support group. Clinton and Emily have a date. |
What makes me think that three is a possibility is Claire's shirt changing between her meeting with Clinton and being at the apartment with Marten. However, that can be hand-waved away just by her having changed after work because she wants to wear something more casual whilst spending time with Marten.
It would be interesting to have an in-universe justification, though. Is it a gag calendar someone got from a Colonial Memorabilia store or something?
Notable events in 1797:
- British wrap up the conquest of French West Indies as part of the Napoleonic War, during which a certain rising star named Horatio Nelson comes to prominence;
- John Adams succeeds George Washington as President of the United States of America;
- The first cast-iron plow is patented (remembered by AIs as the stem point of their evolution?);
- The first ever senator to be impeached is removed from office.
The two middle digits are clearly 9s; the last is ambiguous, but more likely 7. I'm presuming the calendar is a left-over from the building's previous use.The third digit might a 9, but the second very much looks like a seven to me.
It does line up with 1777 though, and the third digit is more ambiguous than the second one (the third one could be 7 or 9, the second one is clearly a 7).
It is to the Twitter people :psyduck:
It is to the Twitter people :psyduck:Not all of them...I tweeted a couple nights back that it looked like 1797 but nobody responded :(
I never would've even noticed the calendar if someone here hadn't pointed it out :roll:
| Monday, 5 September 2005 (Memorial Day) | 2884‑2893 | Marten and Claire get more comfortable. |
| Tuesday, 6 September 2005 | 2894‑2911 | Hanners helps Faye stay on the wagon. Dora picks a fight with Tai. |
| Wednesday, 7 September 2005 | 2912‑2941 | Faye picks up her welding gear from Coffee of Doom and attends a support group. Clinton and Emily have a date. |
| 7+A September 2005 | 2943‑2951 | Covers one day on the basis of Hanners waring the same shirt in 2943 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2943) and 2951 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2951). |
| 7+A+B September 2005 | 2952‑2960 | Momo's Day |
| 7+A+B+C+0 September 2005 | 2961‑2990 | Hanners does not have cancer. Faye falls off the wagon. The Talk 2: Talk Harder. |
| 7+A+B+C+1 September 2005 | 2991‑3000 | Clinton and Emily hang out by the library |
| 7+A+B+C+2 September 2005 | 3001‑3010 | Faye gets a job at the fights. First appearance: Bubbles |
| 7+A+B+C+2+D+0 September 2005 | 3011‑3020 | Hanners talks to Sven and Dora. |
| 7+A+B+C+2+D+1 September 2005 | 3021‑3034 | Dora makes peace with Sven, with Tai's encouragement. Sven sends Hanners a thank-you present. Faye pokes at Bubbles. |
| 7+A+B+C+2+D+2 September 2005 | 3036 | Hanners fête's the Bianchi détente. |
| 7+A+B+C+2+D+2+E September 2005 | 3037‑3050 | Claire gets a new piercing. Hanners orders a few pizzas. |
| 7+A+B+C+2+D+2+E+F+0 September 2005 | 3051‑3077 | Faye invites Bubbles to a house party. |
| 7+A+B+C+2+D+2+E+F+1 September 2005 | 3078‑3090 | Faye and Bubbles talk about the previous night. Momo investigates the fights. |
Version 1.0! Now covering strips 1-2909. Comment and critique welcomed.
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