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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Marneus90 on 19 Dec 2006, 16:41
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In reply to the "Great games you just don't care about??" I was thinking, what games do you play that, when you mention them, no-one has any idea what you're on about. Games you think are great, but nobody else likes it or has even heard of it.
One of the most underrated games, in my opinion, is Beyond Good and Evil. Nobody I know plays it but it's great.
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Hardly anyone my age knows of the awesomeness of LucasArts adventure games.
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I can remember Bridge Construction Set (Pontifex 2) - great tool for every wannabe-designer. Includes various landscape, types of material (iron, steel, hardened steel, bridge lines), 2D and 3D building site view, colour marked construction points exposed to high force/damage, live preview of structure testing... sounds technical but it's very addictive.
And now I'm playing Atomic Cannon - clone of good old Tanks/Scorched Earth game. Many weapons, good graphics, music and special effects, highly configurable (humans/computers, round/deathmatch, difficulty, map size, budget limitations), long hours of fun assured.
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The Black Cauldron by Sierra.
I love all those old Sierra adventure games.
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Loom is one that it seems that no one but the biggest of old school gamers knows exist
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I still keep Dungeon Hack on my machine to just mess around with sometimes.
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Shadow of the Colossus.
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there was a great game i played on my old mac called Spaceship Warlock, it was an awesome 3d adventure
then there are games like Life and Death by toolworks, where you played in surgery
one that i always thought a lot of people knew (but apparently i was wrong) was The Journeyman Project series
and my favorite was a simple game called Riddle Of The Maze
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"The Longest Journey" trilogy. Third one isn't out yet...but that's besides the point.
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Isn't the third one... never coming out? I mean, considering how well the first two sold.
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Loom is one that it seems that no one but the biggest of old school gamers knows exist
Loom is fantastic. It was a gorgeous game for its time and stands up pretty well, I find.
The Laura Bow games were pretty good, too. Basically Detective's Quest, but still really good. Also, that reminds me that I wish more people knew about the game Deja Vu for the NES.
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Loom was definitely awesome. It makes me sad that the game's story will never be finished.
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Loom is one that it seems that no one but the biggest of old school gamers knows exist
Loom is fantastic. It was a gorgeous game for its time and stands up pretty well, I find.
The Laura Bow games were pretty good, too. Basically Detective's Quest, but still really good. Also, that reminds me that I wish more people knew about the game Deja Vu for the NES.
i played Deja vu on the apple II
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Nethack - It's a D&Desque dungeon crawl. Starring @ as the intrepid hero, it follows his trials and tribulations battling other letters and symbols in an effort to retrieve the long lost ________ of ________.
Good times.
Zombie Nation - A giant decapitated zombie head regurgitates fireballs on an endless stream of tanks, jets, and fighter planes. Extra credit for being really hard and having a great WTF??? factor.
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Loom is one that it seems that no one but the biggest of old school gamers knows exist
Loom is fantastic. It was a gorgeous game for its time and stands up pretty well, I find.
The Laura Bow games were pretty good, too. Basically Detective's Quest, but still really good. Also, that reminds me that I wish more people knew about the game Deja Vu for the NES.
Oh yeah, and Deja Vu was also awesome.
Waking up in the bathroom with a drug induced bout of amnesia is such a great way to start your day.
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Earthbound. I love this game to death, but the fact that no sequels have come out in years and years in the U.S. means even I forget about this game every so often.
Jagged Alliance 2. What a great frigging game. An open ended, turn based strategy game where you play a group of mercenaries trying to liberate a country from a fascist queen. Has RPG elements and a great sense of humor.
The Arc The Lad series, original trilogy. Forget the bad-to-just-plain-average PS2 sequels. I bought the Working Designs boxset of the first three Arc games when it came out years ago, and they were/are some of the best strategy RPGs ever. I never finished the second one because it gets downright absurd toward the end in terms of difficulty and how-much-you-can-accomplish, but someday, maybe...The third one was actually my favorite, which is apparently the one nobody else likes.
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Earthbound is brill. Also, Seiken Densetsu.
There's lots of (probably not that good) scrollers and platformers I remember from my youth that I normally only ever got to play one fourth of because they were all shareware my dad was too mean to send off for the other episodes. I mean stuff like Hocus Pocus, Crystal Caves, Commander Keen, Starfire and whatnot. From my memories, I'm pretty sure some of the Commander Keen games (4 I think was pretty good) and Hocus Pocus might have actually been genuinely excellent games.
Best unknown game of all time is almost certainly Fragile Allegiance however. Such a fucking good game! It's a space strategy from about 1996, you're a regional manager in charge of asteroid mining for some dodgy as fuck interstellar megacorp. It was so in-depth! Right down to the level of being able to customise every hardpoint on every fucking starfighter you built (which would invariably be engaged in awesome, borderline psychedelic laser battles with whatever aliens you'd been pissing off the most, whilst missiles were raining down and shooting up left and right. The coolest things, though, were probably the really in-depth background on all the technology and races or whatnot you could read up on on your intelligence computer, and the advanced trading/diplomacy system. There were so many cool points: like when you hired people (asteroid managers, security personnel etc.) you'd get the glossy company file to make your decisions, but you could also buy up information on the black market, which would tell you how good they really were.
You could also buy up genetically engineered viruses and neutron bombs. I think the evillest thing I ever did was to unleash this plague on some aliens without their knowledge...right after I had bought up all the medicine to treat it that was available in the sector. Oh how they died. The really funny thing was, the medicine had no effect on humans! I eventually sold it back to them at vastly inflated prices AND THEN POUNDED THEM WITH MISSILES TILL THEIR LAST BASE WAS JUST A BARREN ROCK POCKMARKED WITH CRATERS AND FLICKERING ELECTRICAL STORMS!!
Such a good game.
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My money still is all for Star Control 2.
Google "The Ur-Quan Masters" - freeware version of SC2, full version, etc. It's a fantastic game, even today. I just replayed it about 2 months ago. It's so freaking good.
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Spaceship Warlock was awesome, I remember playing that when I was young at my uncle's.
I found a Gameboy Color cartridge of Deja Vu someone must have left here because I surely dont recall getting it.
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Isn't the third one... never coming out? I mean, considering how well the first two sold.
Ragnar said he was still gonna do it, but he's working on an MMO right now, then he's gonna go back to it.
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I second the love for the first two Arc the Lad games (the third was awful, in me opinion).
And on the subject of Working Designs-translated games: Lunar. I played the orgininal Sega CD releases, and they blew away any other RPGs of it's day. The PSX remakes have saved them from total obscurity, but barely. I still hope for an honest to god Lunar 3, but it's just not going to happen...
Also, Soulblazer. That was really more of a game my sister played, but I must admit it does kick ass.
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You guys, Cave Story (http://www.gameflaws.com/cavestory/).
Cave Story, you guys.
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Ekhm if this forum would be one from europe I would say Crimsonland... but here ... I'm not so sure ;p
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Earthbound. I love this game to death, but the fact that no sequels have come out in years and years in the U.S. means even I forget about this game every so often.
Earthbound was one of the greatest games produced for SNES. Right up there with Chrono Trigger and Metroid.
If you look in the town Foursquare and go to one of the builidings you can't enter a sign next to it says. "Earthbound 2 Production Unit." or something like that. It always got me excited for a sequel, but as you said earlier - nothing to date.
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I am a huge fan of the Gothic series. A huge fan. I can regurgitate almost every bit of dialogue from those games. Love does not even begin to describe how I feel.
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Dunno if this would count as lesser-known (given that it was given a big ad campaign by Nintendo. Well, big for the time) but Treasure's Mischief Makers (Go! Go! Troublemakers in Japan) was one of my favourite games on the N64 by far. Just one of those really quirky 2D games that Treasure always managed to serve up. Any game that comes up with the concept of a math game in an Olympics style setting is on to something special.
Also gotta give a shout to Psyvariar (PS2), kind of an underrated shmup over here, but bleeding well addictive if you got into it.
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Commander Keen ftw. remember playing that when I was about 5-ish. I'm gonna look it up now and see if I can't find it for fun.
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Summon Nights: Swordcraft Story 2
I wish I had played the first but if it was anything like the second then I would have loved it.
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You guys, Cave Story (http://www.gameflaws.com/cavestory/).
Cave Story, you guys.
Dude, i am adictted to this now. i cant contain either my hatred or my joy
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Does EVE qualify? because next to WoW it's EXTREMELY lesser known. EVE doesn't have TV ads (though it totally should). http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/video/2/RevelationsTrailer.wmv
iIf we're going for more obscure, give Perimeter a try. imagine an RTS where your troops can instantly turn themselves into a different type of troop. From soldier to rocket buggy to flying gunship to artillery platform to tunneling assault vehicle to laser sniper to FLYING laser sniper and more. now have two sides doing that to each other, their troops constantly shifting in search of an edge, or to set off a weakness, and suddenly you know what Perimeter's all about.
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props to Commander Keen and Soulblazer.
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You guys, Cave Story (http://www.gameflaws.com/cavestory/).
Cave Story, you guys.
Dude, i am adictted to this now. i cant contain either my hatred or my joy
Save Curly!
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Ekhm if this forum would be one from europe I would say Crimsonland... but here ... I'm not so sure ;p
Crimsonland is fucking brilliant, but the best Reflexive Arcade game by far is Jets and Guns, which is a side scrolling shooter game that features music by Machinae Supremacy and levels of destruction and mayhem so high they verge on the psychedelic.
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Earthbound is brill. Also, Seiken Densetsu.
There's lots of (probably not that good) scrollers and platformers I remember from my youth that I normally only ever got to play one fourth of because they were all shareware my dad was too mean to send off for the other episodes. I mean stuff like Hocus Pocus, Crystal Caves, Commander Keen, Starfire and whatnot. From my memories, I'm pretty sure some of the Commander Keen games (4 I think was pretty good) and Hocus Pocus might have actually been genuinely excellent games.
Best unknown game of all time is almost certainly Fragile Allegiance however. Such a fucking good game! It's a space strategy from about 1996, you're a regional manager in charge of asteroid mining for some dodgy as fuck interstellar megacorp. It was so in-depth! Right down to the level of being able to customise every hardpoint on every fucking starfighter you built (which would invariably be engaged in awesome, borderline psychedelic laser battles with whatever aliens you'd been pissing off the most, whilst missiles were raining down and shooting up left and right. The coolest things, though, were probably the really in-depth background on all the technology and races or whatnot you could read up on on your intelligence computer, and the advanced trading/diplomacy system. There were so many cool points: like when you hired people (asteroid managers, security personnel etc.) you'd get the glossy company file to make your decisions, but you could also buy up information on the black market, which would tell you how good they really were.
You could also buy up genetically engineered viruses and neutron bombs. I think the evillest thing I ever did was to unleash this plague on some aliens without their knowledge...right after I had bought up all the medicine to treat it that was available in the sector. Oh how they died. The really funny thing was, the medicine had no effect on humans! I eventually sold it back to them at vastly inflated prices AND THEN POUNDED THEM WITH MISSILES TILL THEIR LAST BASE WAS JUST A BARREN ROCK POCKMARKED WITH CRATERS AND FLICKERING ELECTRICAL STORMS!!
Such a good game.
You sir, have have caused the last 12 hours of my life to go MIA by bringing this game up.
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Anyone else play Gothic? The most immersive RPG I have ever laid hands on.
Hell, I like Startopia, too. Anyone else played that?
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Quake 3 Fortress!! based off the original Quake World, it was a mod for Quake 3. AMAZING!!!!!!
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Flaming I played the first Gothic... yea it's pretty god damn nice :)
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And the cave story is awesome :) IIIIIII like it :)
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MechCommander. Damn, that's such an awesome game, even though I've played it through at least 6 times now.
I mean, team-based RTSes are awesome to begin with. And the one thing that makes them better? Make it a team of giant freakin' robots!
Makes me sad all over again that M$ has 'suspended development' of further Battletech games. *Sniff*
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Earthseige 2
Tribes 2
Earthseige 1 wasn't nearly as good, Earthseige 3 ended up becoming Starsiege, an online computer game and one I just wasn't very good at. These games were also the precursor Tribes series, an online computer game that I was pretty freakin' good at. Tribes 1 was a lot of fun but 2 just blew the damn thing out of the water. Tribes 3, however, suffered the same fate as the third Earthseige game, in my opinion, and just wasn't nearly as good as its predecessors.
Earthseige 2 was an amazingly fun mech game and, while it followed a very linear and not too original storyline, the missions you went on were so psychotic, engrossing, challenging and downright fun that they made you care. Terrific weapons (Plasma Cannon! ELF!) pretty good AI on both enemies and allies and a lot of fun mission based objectives you had to take care.
Tribes 2 is one of the most fun experiences I've ever had in online play. Once you got the hang of the jetpack and once you figured out the maps, you could pull off the most insane stunts. I've never had more fun playing capture the flag than this. Such an immersive game, too. You could destroy the electricity generators in enemy bases, preventing any enemy characters from having anything but the weapons, armor and accessories you spawned with. There were vehicles, there were deployable mines and turrets, you could purchase accessories such as the energy pack (use your jetpack longer), repair pack (repair your generators, turrets, etc), shield packs (take more damage). A team had to communicate well and everybody had to play a role, you couldn't just all storm the other team and expect to accomplish anything. Amazing game.
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Black & White is a lesser known game that I loved to death. Being a god is tough if you love to micromanage everything.
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I loved sonic adventure on the Dreamcast, sonic adventure 2 sucked penis but the original made up for it (yes it was that good).
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The original Sonic Adventure was ace. I liked the mix of exploration bits with action bits.
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Man, when was that game released, like 1999?
What I am trying to say is that there have been no good Sonic games since that one came out.
Seriously Sega, what the fuck are you doing?
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Man, when was that game released, like 1999?
What I am trying to say is that there have been no good Sonic games since that one came out.
Seriously Sega, what the fuck are you doing?
Meh, Sega hasn't done to bad, it just seems that the Sonic Team has made it there life mission to destroy the Sonic franchise.
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I used to have Echo The Dolphin for the Sega Game Gear. I loved that game...
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You'd think Sega would be more protective of their flagship franchise. I guess I'm just used to Nintendo delaying a game for 3 years until they can put a good one together rather than daring to tarnish a character with a clunker.
Except for like, Kirby's Air Ride. But nobody remembers or cares about that game anyway.
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Kirby's what ride? That game does not exist.
Actually, One thing I have noticed about the console fanbase is the seeming hatred for delays that are longer than a single week on game releases. Maybe it's cause I've been gaming on my PC since i was a wee lad, and I've been with Nintendo for about the same amount of time, but console delays are jack shit to the PC.
Hell, Zelda was on par with the average delay time for PC games.
But yeah. Sonic Team can blow me.
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Maybe that's why Working Designs went under. Well, I think they went under. How could they not? It was, what, a year delay for the Lunar 1 remake?
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They definitely went under.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Designs
Of course delays were kinda there specialty. That and they were delays on games that a majority of America didn't really want at the time.
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Except for like, Kirby's Air Ride. But nobody remembers or cares about that game anyway.
I thought that game was fun.
I enjoyed Snowboard Kids and Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon on the N64 back in the day.
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Goemon and Lunar were both great franchises, but they were really niche markets in the US. Kinda like Earthbound. 10 people in the US know what that game is, but I'll be damned if those 10 people don't think it's one of the best franchises ever.
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LOL, lunar was crazy but fun. I never played sonic team, i saw the preview then decided no, seems that it was terrible. Now im glad i didnt play it, today i saw another sonic game, it was like "Sonic: Gem team or Gem heroes or something" i forget, but it had the word gem in it and it was for the ps2.
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Guys I recently discovered the game Jurassic Park: Trespasser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park:_Trespasser). Apparently the reaction was lukewarm. I view this as a mistake. I think if someone could remake this game without the flaws that it talks about in the article and with modern graphics I would be a very happy gamer.
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Oh shit, I'm ashamed I didn't think of this game earlier!
Sanitarium. This is one of the most deranged, twisted and dark games (that was well done I might add... fuck Manhunt) I've ever had the joy of playing.
Old School adventure game where a man travels through his damaged psyche after a car accident. All he knows is that he stole a car, and was on his way to spread some very important news before he crashed. Such a dark and twisted game, especially the circus and the initial town you show up in.
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I really wanted to play Sanitarium but I can't find a copy of it anywhere.
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I ended up Ebaying it when I couldn't find my copy last year. Got it for around $15 if i remember right.
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I enjoyed Snowboard Kids
Those games were absolutely fantastic. My favourite racing games ever.
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Earthseige 2
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
If you are a woman, which you are not, I will marry you.
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I really enjoyed Cool Boarders 2... Still playin it sometimes.
http://www.videogamecritic.net/images/ps/cool_boarders_2.jpg
Echo Night was kinda cool
http://www.cheatcc.com/psx/pics/echo3.jpg
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Echelon and its sequel, Wind Warriors....odd Russian low altitude futuristic flight combat....
By my reckoning I'm 3rd in the world ranking - I've never seen more than four people online at the same time :roll:
Also James Pond: Bubble-oh-seven....none of this Robocod nonsense which is all people seem to know about these days...was one of my first games....
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YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
If you are a woman, which you are not, I will marry you.
Yeah, and I already have a faux male online lover. Sorry :(
But, yes, Earthseige 2 was fuckin' ace.
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Startopia, I know no greater arousal than spaceslugs now.
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Well.
The Sierra adventure games (the questy ones) are really good games which was popular a decade before everyone else at my age got interest in computer games... so to my generation they are kinda "lesser known".
The same goes to Lucas Arts adventure games... although I wasn't brought up on those so I don't like them as much.
But to name a "contemporary" game that I like and not many know of I would say... hmm... hmm... warning forever! that's a pretty unknown classic (check it out if you like challenging "spaceshipgames")
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Anyone here heard of Disgaea?
Most addicting thing ever.
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Super BC Kid on snes.
Out of everyone i know who owned a snes, no one had it. but i loved it.
I also agree with whoever before mentioned Commander Keen and Crystal Caves and HOCUS POCUS! I loved that game.
I remember this game, might've been called "vinyl: amazon warrior" or something like that, but for the life of me i cant find anything about it now.
There was this one called "Rescue Rover" where you had to save this dog, by pushing things around in a sokoban style.
Maybe just that as well "Sokoban", some of the most challenging puzzles you will ever come up against. http://www.pimpernel.com/sokoban/ (http://www.pimpernel.com/sokoban/)
Check out the Thinking Rabbit Versions for some real challenges.
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Anarchy online is cool (Free MMO, can pay for expansions if you want too).
worms world party rocked,
and im trying out Space cowboy now.
What i wouldnt give for a Space combat sim written with physics like they have in all the novels, ie. realism ... apart from the obvious suckiness of crossing interstellar distances at the speed of light. If anyone knows of such a game, i demand you tell me immediately :evil:
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Speaking of space combat.
Isn't it always nice in movies and games, when two fleets of space battleships approach each other, that they both seem to have the same idea of what is "up".
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Absolutely >.>
I mean, some games will get a few things right, like Eve online got the scale of most things in AUs and stuff, but then your ship is limited to say, 300 m/s rather than actually accelerating realistically. A game with a relativistic space flight engine, with black holes and gravity and stuff would be so cool. :D and wormholes for interstellar flight, and some faster thing like warp is in eve. but no "im gunna crash into a planet and go right through or bounce off" kinda shit.
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Knights of Honor is a European RTS game (sort of like the Age of Empires games, but not) that I'm now addicted to. It's a medieval style RTS, like a lot of games in the Age of Empires mold, but with less emphasis on military conquest and more on economics, diplomacy, and backstabbing (you can send spies to infiltrate an enemy court and assassinate their king).
My only complaint is that the AI is a bit off-kilter, and it gets a bit unbalanced at times. For example, in one campaign I played through, an AI-controlled Wales once managed to take over all of Great Britain and France, and move on through Germany and Spain. Frigging WALES.
No offense to the Welsh, but you ain't exactly a military powerhouse.
Another time, while playing as Bohemia (basically the old-school Czech Republic), I took over most of Poland, Hungary, and the Balkans - and the rest of the world applauded me for it. I was confused and proud at the same time.
All in all, a fun game that nobody's ever heard of.
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Everyone ever has heard of Panzer Dragoon Orta, but nobody has played it. I wonder why - relatively recent system, cheap, TOTALLY FUCKING AMAZING! They made up their own language! It's raaaaaaaaaaaad.
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The first two Suikodens were astonishing. My favorite games!
Master Of Orion
The Secret Of Monkey Island
Full Throttle
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The Bouncer.
one of the launch titles for the PS2, perfect fighting system (when ya got used to it), GREAT characters (i would say that Sora from KH is almost a physical rip of Sion, but Sion is 3X more B.A.). although it was short there was an amazing story compacted into about 2.5 hours...like a movie.
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Ultima Online was a big one for me I absolutely loved that game.
Other cool games were the two crusader games, I think no regret was the best one. Hell all the old Origin games were good like Wing Commander
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Bethesda is an amazing developer if you overlook that one drag racing game they put out...
but probably my favorite, lesser known game is The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
freaking, seven hours a day for three weeks straight....i beat most of it.
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I'm not entirely certain Morrowind counts as "lesser known" considering it was a smashing success for both the X-Box and the PC.
hmm, a franchise that for its time was fairly well known, but nowdays it's hard to find anyone thats even heard the name of the games, is Quest for Glory.
I'm currently playing through them for the *insert impossibly large number* time. Also greatly anticipating when the AGD remake of QFG2, my favorite of the series.
http://www.agdinteractive.com/ Lookie!
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You want a good Bethesda Softworks game? Elder Scrolls Legends: Battlespire. Fighting controls suck to no end when you have to use the mouse to both look around and swing your weapon, but the graphics are, like, totally sweet.
Legend of the Dragoon. One of the GREATEST RPGs ever created, yet highly overlooked since it was released for the PS1 right at the start of the "next generation consoles" thing in 2000. Good graphics, engrossing, and ABSOLUTELY the best videos and opening scenematic of any game I've ever played.
Or, another awesome game that most people never played- Casper for the PS1. That game was great!
Ooh, goin' real old school though: Haunted House on the Atari 2600. And Zaxxon on the Colecovision. Or how about Guardian Heroes from the Sega Saturn, or the original Panzer Dragoon?
Come to think of it, I've played, like, WAY too many video games in my life.
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Another rulllll awesome game is Lands of Lore - Guardians of Destiny (just a random thought, but destiny is an anagram of density. crazy!) It was so cool - my first real PC game.
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Is Shenmue II one of those lesser-known games? I had it for the Xbox.
It was such a great game. Fighting was pretty good, and I liked the story a lot. They left it wide open for a sequel or three, but I don't think there's ever going to be a Shenmue 3.
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Privateer. I loved flying around and that sort of thing. Freelancer too, which should have been more like Privateer.
I also love Fantasy Zone on the SMS/Mega Drive to bits.
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Save Curly!
(I didn't... stupid me)
I'm not entirely certain Morrowind counts as "lesser known" considering it was a smashing success for both the X-Box and the PC.
hmm, a franchise that for its time was fairly well known, but nowdays it's hard to find anyone thats even heard the name of the games, is Quest for Glory.
I'm currently playing through them for the *insert impossibly large number* time. Also greatly anticipating when the AGD remake of QFG2, my favorite of the series.
http://www.agdinteractive.com/ Lookie!
Well... I have to agree. The second is the best of them. I mean aziza, laffin, the treewoman(can't remember her name), the groucho marx saurus seller, the astrologer. Those caracters is hard to forget. And the story, aaah. Sure the 4 elements is a classic but this game takes it farther than the clich?s...
(oh, and the possibility to see a princess naked and therefore totally losing the ability to become paladin is also a classic :D )
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Julanar was the tree woman :)
Really, the ad thing is that even though QFG2 is my favorite, it's like picking your favorite hot woman out of 5 amazingly hot sisters. In the end, you just try to pick them all.
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BAHAMUT FUCKING LAGOON
Also, Starscape. Hella lasers!
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Another rulllll awesome game is Lands of Lore - Guardians of Destiny (just a random thought, but destiny is an anagram of density. crazy!) It was so cool - my first real PC game.
The first Lands of Lore: Throne of Chaos was the best game ever. It was way ahead of it's time. Guardians of Destiny was awesome too, but then they ruined the whole series by coming out with Lands of Lore III (which was a vile FPS.) I miss those games, and I really wish I could find the old disks for that and somehow get it up and running...
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I'm not entirely certain Morrowind counts as "lesser known" considering it was a smashing success for both the X-Box and the PC.
yeah, it was, but almost nobody but me and my friend Greg have played it where i'm from...so it's lesser known to me. :/
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Sersiously, what the fuck. I remember nothing about this series except the first game was ludicrously hard and there was a observation bay thing looking out into space, underground. Oh, the second was fun. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Kyrandia)
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By the way, I know everyone knows of Psychonauts, but did anyone ever play it?
I've got to say it was amazing. Everyone I've converted says so, but nobody I have met has played it on their own initiative.
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I can get pretty addicted to Kingdom of Loathing sometimes...
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Someone else who's play Jagged Alliance 2!! Wewt!!
JA2 was friggin awesome, I got so hooked on the demo I HAD to track down the full version.
Another game I'll mention is Warlords Battlecry. An excellant game series, and WLBCII Is one of my favourite games like, ever. Release 2002, beats the ass out of every other Fantasy Strategy I've played. Think Warcraft III but good.
Exile. www.spiderwebsoftware.com (I think that's the right link, too lazy to check myself. Try dropping the software.)
I love the Exile series, and when I get around to it, will buy all four games(1, 2, 3 and Blades) full versions. I wish they would convert Avernum IV back to exile(Avernum being the 3d version, which I don't like due to the changes)
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Legend of the Dragoon. One of the GREATEST RPGs ever created, yet highly overlooked since it was released for the PS1 right at the start of the "next generation consoles" thing in 2000. Good graphics, engrossing, and ABSOLUTELY the best videos and opening scenematic of any game I've ever played.
You just reminded me that I lost the second disk, so I can't play it. Thanks.
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I love LoD SOO much, at one point I had THREE COPIES of the game just IN CASE I lost a disk.
The same with FF VII and FF IX.
And RE:Director's Cut.
And a few others.
Who here actually played the original Frequency? Great game, especially going back and playing it now and seeing when they didn't use effin' COVER ARTISTS to do the game songs. Guitar Hero, you stand no chance against authentic Gwen Stefani vocals.
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I PLAYED AMPLITUDE (which rawked. hardcore.)
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Shadow Hearts.
The only RPG I've ever played where some of the enemies attack you by SLAPPING YOU WITH THEIR PENIS. Or the headless zombie girls whose legs split wide open and they bite you? Weird, and yet quite fun.
An interesting side note: when I took this game in to GE to trade it in, one of the games I got- without knowing it- turns out to be the game that Shadow Hearts is a pseudo sequel to, Koudelka. When these guys split from Square, I think they lost their minds and replaced them with fountains of gaming awesomeness.
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I don't think that i need to mention old lucasarts adventures or Roguelikes...
Has anyone mentioned Ultima Underworld yet? That rocked ass in so many levels.
So did System Shock, both of them.
Combat Mission 1-3
Absolutely great strategy games.
And hey people, everyone that matters knows the Jagged Alliance series.
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Crystalis, this game was awesome, anybody else spend countless hours on this shit?
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Man, Nobody ever seems to know about the Marathon Trilogy, which is definitely one of the best FPS series' in existance.
Also, has anybody here ever played ANY Turbo Grafx 16/CD games? I wouldn't be alive today without the help of the glorius TG-16.
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Jet Force Gemini. It was one of the few games I had for my N64, but it was a lot of fun. One of my regrets is having never beaten it...
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i completely forgot about jet force gemini, that game was bad assery at its finest!
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The Shuriken was was fun. Homing decap's were fun.
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Also, has anybody here ever played ANY Turbo Grafx 16/CD games? I wouldn't be alive today without the help of the glorius TG-16.
Bonk FTW.
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I'll give you Bonk acronym.
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How about everything made for Game Gear- Joe Montana Football, Lillehammer 94; I have a friend who buys everything he can find on Ebay that works. The thing ate batteries and weighed at least a few pounds. And now that I've completely lost my topic, I may as well inform you all that I once commandeered my brother's Dreamcast and played Toy Commander for twelve straight hours.
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Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne has to be one of the absolute best RPGs ever made, but I've only ever met people who've heard of it on the 'Everything Else -- RPGs' board on Gamefaqs.
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 rock also.
The series is basically dungeon crawlers with a cool dark atmosphere, and turn based battle system with far more heavy strategy than any other turn based RPGs I've ever seen. Basically, you get as many 'press turns' per round as characters alive. But if you attack the enemy's weakness or get a critical hit you get an extra press turn, and if you attack their strength or miss you lose an extra press turn. And the same rules apply to the enemies as apply to you.
Also, you know how in most games, spells that increase or decrease stats are useless because either they don't hit, or they last way too short? In SMT, those kinds of spells are permanent, and they stack, and enemies are constantly casting them on you. Status effects are also a major part of the game.
Nocturne has sort of a minimalist plot more like a PC style RPG, except with a slightly more linear sequence of places you're supposed to go to. Also, there are six different endings that you bring about by allying yourself with the various factions of the game. There is only one controllable story character, and the rest of the party is made up of demons you recruit from battles. Digital Devil Saga has a more traditional RPG plot, but it's real dark and creepy. (Basically, at the start, everyone in the world is transformed into demons who must devour each other to survive, else the hunger will drive them into an animal rage.) In it there are seven story characters and three in a battle.
Valkyrie Profile 1 and 2 are also some of the best RPGs out there, but I think they're a little more well known now.
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Anyone here heard of Disgaea?
Most addicting thing ever.
Disgaea 1 and 2 both rock.
There are plenty of great RPGs out there on PS2 for people who don't like Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy styled games. Just, nobody has heard of them...
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Startopia, I know no greater arousal than spaceslugs now.
Yes!
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A.D. 1602
Caesar 3
Europa Universalis 1 &2
See a pattern?
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Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne has to be one of the absolute best RPGs ever made, but I've only ever met people who've heard of it on the 'Everything Else -- RPGs' board on Gamefaqs.
FOR THE TRUTH
Good god, these games are AMAZING
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The best RPG that I've ever played (and nostalgia plays heavily in this, beware) was 'Darklands' on my old 486...sigh. Excellent game. Another VERY good game (nostalgia) what just released an anniversary edition is 'Out of this World'.
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Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
I normally hate anything vampire related, but damnit, it's a Troika game!
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Loom was definitely awesome. It makes me sad that the game's story will never be finished.
I never actually played Loom, although I do remember one mobile sprite of a pirate in the Grogg Bar in Secrets of Monkey Island advertising it.
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I personally have a soft spot for all of the NES games which I grew up on. While there are quite a few good well know games for the NES, such as Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, The Legend of Zelda, and so forth, I have yet to hear of anyone who has played Little Nemo's Adventures in Dreamland. This game was amazing, though granted not the best ever, and was quite enjoyable for me even with the childish graphics. I also enjoyed playing a Tengen game for NES called Vindicators - a shoot-em up 1-2 player tank game, which was surprisingly difficult.
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I totally used to play that game. I don't think I ever finished it though.
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Shadow of the Colossus.
Agreed. That game was gorgeous. But now I have a 360, and it is ugly.
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R.C. motherfucking Pro-Am.
NES style baby.
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And because I was playing this today and it occured to me that everyone I know only knows about the game because I re-bought it off Ebay, is Sanitarium.
Sanitarium is probably one of the best and most twisted adventure games I've ever played. I love it!
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For me..its a two-fer. On one hand, I could play Chrono Cross for hours on end for all eternity, though a lot of people think the game sucked and wasnt a worthy sequal to Chrono Trigger. But on the other hand, Indigo Prophecy just oozed cool, and deserved bigger fanfare than it received.
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Nethack - It's a D&Desque dungeon crawl. Starring @ as the intrepid hero, it follows his trials and tribulations battling other letters and symbols in an effort to retrieve the long lost ________ of ________.
My friends and I still all play that game daily... God I love nethack.
I've already mentioned it on another thread, but only a quarter of the people I meet seem to know about Geneforge, and I love that game(and the next 3).
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Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but I used to have a game for the Mega-Drive (Sega Genesis for the Americans) called Soleil (Crusader of Centy) Was an amazing game, the story was basically you had just turned 14 years old and had to go train at Rafflesia training ground so that you could become a great knight for the land. So you go, but on the way you come across a physchic who gives you the power to speak to animals - but because you can talk to animals you can no longer talk to humans - anyway, you then go on a mission to save the land from some evil person using your animal friends who give you powers. Like the cheetah gives you the power to run really fast, a Lion set your sword on fire - so it did more damage, a penguin to freeze your sword - also to strengthen it.
http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/genesis/centy/index.shtml (http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/genesis/centy/index.shtml)
Amazing game, probably my favourite.
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I love Psychonauts. i need to find all the old Tim Schafer games
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Grim Fandango for the win.
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Space Station Silicon Valley on the N64 was a fun little platformer.
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If by "little" you mean "tremendously ambitious" then I agree.
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Jagged Alliance 2. What a great frigging game. An open ended, turn based strategy game where you play a group of mercenaries trying to liberate a country from a fascist queen. Has RPG elements and a great sense of humor.
Great game. Although I don't really get why the game desingers forgot the great multiplayer, which worked almost perfectly in Jagged Alliance: Deadly Games. I still hope that somebody would do unofficial Jagged Alliance 2 multiplayer mod, or otherwise the company would do JA3 (and don't screw it up) with good multiplayer support on lan and/or internet.
In Finland Ninja Gaiden (Xbox) got much less attention that it should have gotten. Probably the best singleplayer game for Xbox and it got good reviews (few popular finnish game-medias gave 98 out of 100), but players just didn't buy it. Maybe too hard or singleplayers just aren't in?
Also Rollercoaster Tycoon (the first one only). Maybe the best simulator, I just love it. Somehow I can play it weeks and months with money-code, so I don't have to worry about money and I just keep design more and more beautiful amusement parks. :)
Then also Golden Sun 1-2 for GBA, way too undervalued.
+ Metal Arms: Glitch in the System. I have it for Xbox, great game.
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If by "little" you mean "tremendously ambitious" then I agree.
Well, yeah. I was younger at the time, so I guess I didn't appreciate it as much froma design standpoint.
If only Springy-Thingy's existed in real life. =/
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One of my favorite games from when I was younger was Beyond the Forbidden Forest for the C64. God, that game had some great, violent deaths! Anyone here ever play that?
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Well, since there's already a thread for lesser known RPG's, I'll stick outside that genre:
Far and away, best obscure game I've ever played was Tomba for Playstation. You play a pink haired savage boy ina 3D animated 2D sidescroller (Pretty much the same idea as New Super Mario Bros.). It has epic amounts of sidequests and is just ridiculously simple platforming fun. Sadly, I've never been able to track down a copy of the sequel.
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One of the most underrated games, in my opinion, is Beyond Good and Evil. Nobody I know plays it but it's great.
I came to this thread to post that game. I've been playing through it recently, and it's been really fun, but it's a little too easy. The storyline is great though.
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Anyone ever play Way of the Samurai for PS2? Great, very fun amazing game. It was very short but had a lot of replay value.
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I always had a soft spot for Square's non-RPG offerings. Einhander (sp??) was a pretty good 3Dish shooter, while The Bouncer was a pretty good beat-em-up that was hampered by touchy controls and stupid AI.
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In way of beat'em up I always thought Eihergez (sp?) was pretty good. The fact that you were able to use old school Square characters in the battles was a nice addition. I mean yeah it wasn't the best fighting type game in the world but the integrated dungeon crawler with the fighting game, it was not a bad offering. Speaking of dungeon crawlers does anyone remember Vagrant Story? That was one of my favorite games of all time, simply for the atmosphere and weapon customizing system.
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Someone already mentioned Master of Orion, and that game is still fun as hell to me even now. Xcom ufo defense, and Xcom Terror from the deep are also awesom as far as I'm concerned. Cool stories, with attainable goals to get to the next step and eventually invade mars... Really cool stuff there.
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Pretty much anything by Nippon-Ichi. The first Disgaea went under everyone's radar (except mine!) when it first came out and I pretty much singlehandedly started a craze for the game due to my awesome salesman skills at GameStop when it came out. One guy told me that he would give me his firstborn child for recommending it. I personally LOVED Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom was a blast.
I am a huge fan of fighting games, and NO ONE has played Garou: Mark of the Wolves here in the United States but a few dedicated, hardcore fighter enthusiasts or Neo-Geo emulator people. It is such an absolutely amazing game. The graphics are so incredibly fluid TO THIS DAY. It was so ahead of its time. I am glad they are starting to encorporate Garou characters into the KoF games (King of Fighters XI is due out the end of June, just as an FYI.)
Planescape: Torment is another one that it seems few people have actually played, even people who loved Black Isle. If you can find this game, do yourself a favor and pick it up. The story is untouchable. Literally, it's video game story telling at its absolute finest.
How many people here played Betrayal at Krondor? That game is actually what got me into reading fantasy novels! The story was done by Raymond E. Feist and I was a huge fan of his back in the day. It was brilliant.
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I believe Mark of the Wolves is coming to the Wii's Virtual Console. I know they're planning on bringing Neo-Geo stuff, so it only makes sense for SNK to do that.
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I have read the Betrayal at Krondor book series, but I have been unable to find the game. Which is sad because Feist's books are pretty good.
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It's worth mentioning again: the first Disgaea has been re-released by Nippon Ichi. I think for now it's only available from their website, but Amazon has a listing for it as "New; will ship soon."
I have a copy of Vagrant Story that's been collecting dust for YEARS. I absolutely hated the game when I first got it was a gift, but someday I feel like it'll click for me.
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I have read the Betrayal at Krondor book series, but I have been unable to find the game. Which is sad because Feist's books are pretty good.
It's freeware now. It was made freeware when the game sequel came out, as an attempt to hype it up. I just googled for it half-heartedly with no luck, but I'm sure you could find it with a little effort.
It's DOS, though, so you'll need a DOS emulator if you're on XP or Vista.
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when playing with others: Sunset Riders and Knights of the Round, not to mention Zombies ate my Neighbors all for snes.
by myself... shining force on sega, chrono trigger or ff3 for snes, or just about anything square put out for the playstation.
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The only thing Square ever made that went under the gamer radars was Einhander.
But Sunset Riders and Knights of the Round? That brings back good times. KotR was pretty rad.
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The only thing Square ever made that went under the gamer radars was Einhander.
But Sunset Riders and Knights of the Round? That brings back good times. KotR was pretty rad.
Its a shame too, Einhander is a great game... It was worth trading Saga Frontier 1 for it....
Sunset riders: The best character was the poncho guy...
Anyone heard of Ikaruga? I still call it the most difficult shooter on the planet
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EGNSdcy-apU)
EDIT: How can I forget about Dragonforce?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cUplX_KTITk (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cUplX_KTITk)
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Ikaruga was such a great game, but god damn was it hard. I realize that was the point, and it was aimed at old school shoot-em-up fanatics, but it had such tantalizingly cool mechanics I almost wish they'd make the game less memorization heavy.
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My favorite game ever? Nostril Hockey. It's not a video game, but the rules are simple.
1) Put a 3x5 card down on the middle of a table. This is the "puck". You may bend up the corners before the game to make it easier.
2) Players lean over each end of the table and attempt to blow the puck off the other end of the table - but they may only blow through their nostrils, and may not touch the puck in any way.
3) At any time, you may punch the other player in the face to forfeit the game; if they punch back, however, the game ends with whoever wins the ensuing fistfight.
4) You win the game if:
A) You blow the puck over any end of the table besides yours.
B) You are punched in the face and do not punch back.
C) You win the ending fistfight.
D) Your opponent loses.
5) You lose the game if:
A) Your opponent wins the game, for any of reasons A-C above
B) You touch the puck.
C) You manipulate the puck via any method other than blowing through your nostril
D) You make any Chuck Norris jokes during the game. Chuck Norris is a chump; Bruce Lee could kick his derierre any day. Even dead.
E) You are Chuck Norris.
F) You ever kick your opponent. Punching is encouraged in Nostril Hockey; kicking is not.
G) You high-stick your opponent.
H) You think about/bisect the bean.
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You are all horrible people because none of you are playing Lunar Knights for the DS or Earth Defense Force 2017 for the XBox 360 right now.
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By the way, I know everyone knows of Psychonauts, but did anyone ever play it?
I've got to say it was amazing. Everyone I've converted says so, but nobody I have met has played it on their own initiative.
I want to buy it very badly, but it is mysteriously absent from every retailer of video games in a surrounding 5-mile radius. I've played the demo of the PC version however.
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I actually have Lunar Knights, so fuck you.
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You are a good person then, Storm Rider.
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Well. I just began playing Conflict Freespace.
It wasn't that unknown back when it was released but I guess noone really knows what it is today.
(It's FUN!)
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King of Dragon Pass in now added to my list. Think of a much deeper "The Lost Tribe" except with vikings, magic and lots and lots of pillaging.
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Shadow of the Colossus.
hate to break it to you but ICO is more a lesser known game. SOTC made greatest hits.
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Ill defintiely second mischief makers though.
what about startropics?
edit: also, guadian legend for NES
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Earthbound is brill. Also, Seiken Densetsu.
There's lots of (probably not that good) scrollers and platformers I remember from my youth that I normally only ever got to play one fourth of because they were all shareware my dad was too mean to send off for the other episodes. I mean stuff like Hocus Pocus, Crystal Caves, Commander Keen, Starfire and whatnot. From my memories, I'm pretty sure some of the Commander Keen games (4 I think was pretty good) and Hocus Pocus might have actually been genuinely excellent games.
Best unknown game of all time is almost certainly Fragile Allegiance however. Such a fucking good game! It's a space strategy from about 1996, you're a regional manager in charge of asteroid mining for some dodgy as fuck interstellar megacorp. It was so in-depth! Right down to the level of being able to customise every hardpoint on every fucking starfighter you built (which would invariably be engaged in awesome, borderline psychedelic laser battles with whatever aliens you'd been pissing off the most, whilst missiles were raining down and shooting up left and right. The coolest things, though, were probably the really in-depth background on all the technology and races or whatnot you could read up on on your intelligence computer, and the advanced trading/diplomacy system. There were so many cool points: like when you hired people (asteroid managers, security personnel etc.) you'd get the glossy company file to make your decisions, but you could also buy up information on the black market, which would tell you how good they really were.
You could also buy up genetically engineered viruses and neutron bombs. I think the evillest thing I ever did was to unleash this plague on some aliens without their knowledge...right after I had bought up all the medicine to treat it that was available in the sector. Oh how they died. The really funny thing was, the medicine had no effect on humans! I eventually sold it back to them at vastly inflated prices AND THEN POUNDED THEM WITH MISSILES TILL THEIR LAST BASE WAS JUST A BARREN ROCK POCKMARKED WITH CRATERS AND FLICKERING ELECTRICAL STORMS!!
Such a good game.
Where can i get a copy of this game?
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Ehh i didn't bother reading EVERY single post for this one, so somebody might've alrdy mentioned or covered this one, but i think the "Tales of" games from namco are really awesome. Tales of Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss are really fun out of all of em. Although i recommend getting japanese versions of the game with english subtitles, because english dub sounds okay but there are certain parts of the english dub where it doesn't have voice acting where the japanese versions do, making it sound more natural.
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Tread Marks. (http://www.ldagames.com/treadmarks/) Non-stop tank-racing deformable-terrain bizarro-physics deathmatching action in glorious circa-2000 3D. Try it, you'll like it.
For you Europa Universalis types who want to go way-retro, check out Machiavelli the Prince on The Underdogs. Sorta like EU meets Dope Wars, with massive name cred.
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Dominus (1994)
You are an evil overlord whose kingdom is being invaded by one of eight rival outlying nations : Pigmen, Sea Creatures, Skeleton Warriors, Bird Men, Fire Demons, Magicians, Mauraders, demonic Wraiths
You set traps to slow their march and capture prisoners to interrogate to gain useful information and discover hidden spells
You can mount your dragon chariot to fly down to the battle field yourself to destroy them! But you have to stop them before they enter your castle and destroy you!
You can also form super mutant monsters in the monster mixing room - take a bunch of your different creatures (as well as captured enemies) and then combine them (up to 6 at once) into a unique, super monster that can be unleased on the invading hordes
free download link (it's slow give it a minute to load):
http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=319
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Gotta love the gamer indie cred thread going on up in here. Another game that I liked was Nitro by Psygnosis. Actually, most anything by Psygnosis with a few notable, horrible, exceptions.
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I was a huge fan of Timesplitters 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timesplitters_2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timesplitters_2)). It got good reviews, but I never saw it really get any real recognition beyond that.
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Psychonauts, Space Channel 5, Shin Megami Tensei games, Disgaea, Oddworld, Bust A Groove
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Since someone mentioned Psygnosis, I'm going to throw G-Police out there.
I loved a lot about that game, especially the style and the fact that it had changing objectives to deal with (not especially common on the PS1).
I never completed it through, due to the fact I could never survive one level where it was impossible to dodge a ton of incoming fire, and the horrible draw distance stemming from trying to make the console do too much.
If they'd just lasted a little longer, a G-Police game for the PS2 would have been awesome.
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Well, first off, I haven't played Rez, but it looks amazing, and I want to play it badly.
What about Tales of Phantasia for the SNES? I loved the combat system in that game. It seemed to me to be one of the first games to ever do none turn based combat in RPG's right, if the first at all.
Another is Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem. Has anyone heard of this? It is heavily inspired by Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos, and it came out for the Gamecube. I loved the game's story-telling, how there were so many ways to change the game completely, and how the insanity system worked. I loved how it made it look like the tv was malfunctioning, with the volume turning up and such.
Also, a game that's a bit more recent in the same vein, but not as great, while still fun, is Call Of Cthulhu: Dark Corner Of The Earth. That also had an insanity system, since it's based off the table-top roleplaying game.
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The game was still fun, but have you played Eternal Darkness? It had a fun sanity system that worked.
The game's standout concept, patented by Nintendo (US patent 6,935,954 [1]), is the "sanity meter", a green bar on screen which is depleted under various conditions, generally when the character is seen by an enemy. It can be restored under various conditions, such as performing a "finishing move" on an enemy. As the bar becomes low, various effects occur, reflecting the character's slackening grip on reality. If the bar remains empty, further damage to sanity decreases the player character's health.
One effect which is consistently used is a skewed camera angle accompanied by whispers, cries, and other noises. The lower the sanity meter, the more skewed the camera angle and the louder the sound effects. Fourth-wall breaking effects include simulated displays with messages apparently produced by the TV or the GameCube; this does not affect gameplay unless the player misconstrues them as actual technical malfunctions and turns off or resets his or her system, thereby losing all progress since his or her last save. Though some of these affect the character as hallucinations or muscle control issues, and others break the fourth wall, being aimed at the player directly, all are temporary.
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Personally I thought that Ultimate Spiderman for the PS2 was a great game. It had a good combat system, nice chase scenes, and a well thought out story.
It never was honestly a bestseller though.
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Ill defintiely second mischief makers though.
what about startropics?
edit: also, guadian legend for NES
Startropics was amazing.... freakin' difficult if you didn't have the paper that came with the game... I only found out that you were supposed to have the paper with the game AFTER I went through and tried all 747 combinations starting from 000 on up to unlock the spaceship (aparently something to force people to buy the actual game, instead of buying it from second hand dealers, lol). also, a lot of the puzzles were really tough in that one, but overall, one of the better games for the NES I ever played.
I never played Startropics 2 though - was it any good?
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This thread was almost a year old. Please do not do this to us.
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My apologies, I actually had just read the thread about not reviving old topics immediately after I left here, but, as I didn't check the original post dates, and everything here appears as new posts to me at the moment (as I have been gone for over a year), I had no idea that it was that old -
My apologies - I shall attempt not to pull the same feat again.
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I actually got this mistaken with the "cool games nobody remembers" thread.
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As a rule (that should probably be added to the forum rules), if it's more than two pages back, you probably should leave it alone unless you're using the search function to find something (not post in it). No harm done.