I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
It's almost as though it were a joke and I'm over-analyzing it :-)
I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
It's almost as though it were a joke and I'm over-analyzing it :-)
Lets take that over-analyzing and run with it!
It could be for a number of reasons, but the one I would be willing to put money on is anthropomorphization. Bubbles is a very large, scary looking combat droid who in the past would have had to rely on and be trusted by her fellow squad mates. If she can't be approached on a human level, the squad she is assigned to would most likely only see her as a tool to be used, and this would make a full AI very sad.
Conversely, if she displays human traits, like losing control of her emotions, this makes her relatable and approachable, which is very good for team building.
I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
It's almost as though it were a joke and I'm over-analyzing it :-)
Lets take that over-analyzing and run with it!
It could be for a number of reasons, but the one I would be willing to put money on is anthropomorphization. Bubbles is a very large, scary looking combat droid who in the past would have had to rely on and be trusted by her fellow squad mates. If she can't be approached on a human level, the squad she is assigned to would most likely only see her as a tool to be used, and this would make a full AI very sad.
Conversely, if she displays human traits, like losing control of her emotions, this makes her relatable and approachable, which is very good for team building.
Losing control of one's emotions can also result in violent outbursts, which are decidedly bad for team building.
I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
Losing control of one's emotions can also result in violent outbursts, which are decidedly bad for team building.
For what it's worth, I felt obligated to vote that she install herself in a Firefly-class transport. I don't think it likely, but I had to vote that way.
Lets take that over-analyzing and run with it!
It could be for a number of reasons, but the one I would be willing to put money on is anthropomorphization. Bubbles is a very large, scary looking combat droid who in the past would have had to rely on and be trusted by her fellow squad mates. If she can't be approached on a human level, the squad she is assigned to would most likely only see her as a tool to be used, and this would make a full AI very sad.
Conversely, if she displays human traits, like losing control of her emotions, this makes her relatable and approachable, which is very good for team building.
That teardrop in the last panel...poor Pintsize!
Then how did Pintsize eat cake mix?
I always imagined the robot mouths didn't have depth.Quote from: You're thinkingThen how did Pintsize eat cake mix?
I never said I thought it through!
That's not a teardrop...
That teardrop in the last panel...poor Pintsize!
I don't think that's a teardrop, methinks that is the aforementioned bird poop.
Edit; darn you cesium.
I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
Now, why a combat chassis has brushable hair, that's what's got me confused.
I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
Adaptive camouflage, she can also blush in sand beige(desert), mottled green(forest), and shades of blue(sky/sea).
Now, why a combat chassis has brushable hair, that's what's got me confused.
(Won't blame the moderators if they ban me due to this comment.)I've probably done far worse.
(Won't blame the moderators if they ban me due to this comment.)I've probably done far worse.
Nah, like 90% of all puns on this forum are from Method.
[satanic voice]PUNS FOR THE PUN GOD[/satanic voice]
I AM THE PUN GOD.
I understand why anime-themed robot bodies are equipped for it, but why would a combat chassis be set up with the ability to blush?
Adaptive camouflage, she can also blush in sand beige(desert), mottled green(forest), and shades of blue(sky/sea).
Now, why a combat chassis has brushable hair, that's what's got me confused.
Hehe, Bubbles blush. Me thinks she does have a thing for Faye. Going to a party she didn't want to. Punching the bag till it burst while calling herself stupid over and over. Fixing up her hair while lying that she woke up like that. All signs point to one thing. lol
... and Momo learns not to make snap judgements about people whom she does not know personally.
I just noticed how similar their faces are, with the exception of the eyes. I think we can assume both chassis (how the hell do you pluralize that?) are made by the same manufacturer!
Today's might be the first comic that passes the AI-Bechdel test (two AIs, named, talking about something other than a human) - if you don't count the one mention of "humans". Just a random thought, what with Jeph drawing analogies between AI rights in the comic and other social issues in our world. (The weird thing with Pintsize two weeks ago notwithstanding.)http://www.questionablecontent.net/855 & http://www.questionablecontent.net/1555 leap to mind.
Oh no. no no no.
Momo, do not turn this into a morality themed story arc where you storm in there and try and change things, or start shouting at faye for enabling it. no
i am not in the mood for a drama llama arc right now Jacques. don't do it, do not even think about doing it, do not even think about not doing it!
Poor Momo. Such a sheltered life, even with who her owner is
Or that may be because of who her owner is.
Oh no. no no no.
Momo, do not turn this into a morality themed story arc where you storm in there and try and change things, or start shouting at faye for enabling it. no
i am not in the mood for a drama llama arc right now Jacques. don't do it, do not even think about doing it, do not even think about not doing it!
It could just as easily be a setup for commentary on those who must immediately rush in and Make Things Right, whether those being Righted want to be or not.
Today's might be the first comic that passes the AI-Bechdel test (two AIs, named, talking about something other than a human) - if you don't count the one mention of "humans". Just a random thought, what with Jeph drawing analogies between AI rights in the comic and other social issues in our world. (The weird thing with Pintsize two weeks ago notwithstanding.)
chassis (how actually *do* you pluralize that?)
Today's might be the first comic that passes the AI-Bechdel test
Today's might be the first comic that passes the AI-Bechdel test (two AIs, named, talking about something other than a human) - if you don't count the one mention of "humans". Just a random thought, what with Jeph drawing analogies between AI rights in the comic and other social issues in our world. (The weird thing with Pintsize two weeks ago notwithstanding.)
Two female AIs, even. Honest question - who reckons that means it passes the 'standard' (for want of a better word) version as well?
Today's might be the first comic that passes the AI-Bechdel test (two AIs, named, talking about something other than a human) - if you don't count the one mention of "humans". Just a random thought, what with Jeph drawing analogies between AI rights in the comic and other social issues in our world. (The weird thing with Pintsize two weeks ago notwithstanding.)
Two female AIs, even. Honest question - who reckons that means it passes the 'standard' (for want of a better word) version as well?
It does, but that's no surprise. QC easily passes the Bechdel test most of the time. It would almost be hard not to given that the cast is mostly made up of women, and this isn't a 'harem anime' where everything comes back to the focus on one male character. Marten may be the most important male character, but there is no 'main character' really. Faye is just as important to the story, and the huge cast of secondary characters all play big roles. It's unuaual to get a multi-month story arc based on Hanners, or Dora, or Claire etc...
Just a random thought, what with Jeph drawing analogies between AI rights in the comic and other social issues in our world.
I think Momo is doing respectability politics. It's a powerful, useful, though frequently unsuccessful tactic for minority rights to provide an in-your-face disproof of all the harmful stereotypes. If so, she's not being fueled by moral indignation but by fear for her civil rights work.Much the same - but reversed - in the Trans community. If they can point to Trans women and men who have earned Silver Stars etc for courage, saving lives etc (as they can) it is in-your-face disproof of all the harmful stereotypes, so potentially useful to "the cause". The objection by many who lean to the Left is to the Military as a whole, even as a concept, on moral grounds. Which those who have been involved in the military can quite understand, it's a tragic necessity, not just the ultimate expression of maternal/paternal instinct.
The purpose of the Bechdale test is to make a real world point. It (or the mechdaletest) doesn't seem to have any relevance in a world without a community of AIs
Passing or failing it when applied to AI's isn't really a thing.
the last thing bubs needs is a judgemental & self-richeous doogooder getting up in her face about how she's 'failing the cause'.
Yes, I said "people". They're not homo sapiens and not made of proteins but so what?you've phrased that as though you expect someone to dispute it.
This is unexpected. I figured Momo was such a goody-goody that she wouldn't be able to resist the urge to report it.
still, the fact that she requires justification for bots who behave out of line with her personal ideology does inch her into 'annoyingly
judgmental doogooder' territory for me. though that's still a long way off from 'self-richeous asshole' jurisdiction.
More like she doesn't have an entry in her Social Protocol Database for something like this.
I stand by my assertion that Momo in her current chassis is basically "teen Momo". Though she may have skills and knowledge that allow her to interact better in an adult world, and hold her job at the library, she is still growing as a person. She still can't grok how some things work, but isn't the sort who would shut out voices (like May) who offer a different perspective. At some point, if the comic continues long enough, she might migrate to another chassis when she feels more "mature".
I stand by my assertion that Momo in her current chassis is basically "teen Momo". Though she may have skills and knowledge that allow her to interact better in an adult world, and hold her job at the library, she is still growing as a person. She still can't grok how some things work, but isn't the sort who would shut out voices (like May) who offer a different perspective. At some point, if the comic continues long enough, she might migrate to another chassis when she feels more "mature".I don't know, growing as a person and hearing dissenting voices is something I hope I will do at all ages, even though I'm really not a teenager any more. She is young (afair, she's between two and three years, comic time), but AI learn and mature faster than humans.
May, if you can't tell the difference between people being forced into the black economy by circumstances and outright embezzlement to obtain non-necessity goods, then you need to pay more attention at the support group meetings.Yeah, but she wanted to be a fighter jet. Maybe she qualified, but the military program stopped before she could get in? Or she was outright refused for "not being human"? There are similarities :)
In some ways, Momo is a 'Trust Fund Activist': Someone with good intentions and who genuinely wants to help but whose social background renders her unable to really grasp the true nature of the issues. As a consequence, she comes across as condescending or pious to those who actually do live with the issues.I think you hit it on the head, there, with "trust fund activist" but she is actually not in a position to not know. She visits the meetings with May, and either she doesn't listen or doesn't believe the criminal AI (her first reaction to May in Dales glasses was to threaten her - yes, May was herself, but threatening her with trying to kill her? Isn't that a bit much for a few insults?)
In some ways, Momo is a 'Trust Fund Activist': Someone with good intentions and who genuinely wants to help but whose social background renders her unable to really grasp the true nature of the issues. As a consequence, she comes across as condescending or pious to those who actually do live with the issues.
I stand by my assertion that Momo in her current chassis is basically "teen Momo". Though she may have skills and knowledge that allow her to interact better in an adult world, and hold her job at the library, she is still growing as a person. She still can't grok how some things work, but isn't the sort who would shut out voices (like May) who offer a different perspective. At some point, if the comic continues long enough, she might migrate to another chassis when she feels more "mature".
Something like this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=642)? :-D
Something like this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=642)? :-D
Without noticing that it's about 1000 off, before clicking I had thought you were suggesting this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658)...
The purpose of the Bechdale test is to make a real world point. It (or the mechdaletest) doesn't seem to have any relevance in a world without a community of AIs
Passing or failing it when applied to AI's isn't really a thing.
the thing about the bechdale test that people have a tendency to miss is that it's really only meaningful in aggregate, as a generalized 'average' for the roll of female characters in fiction. the question of whether or not any given individual work passes it is completely meaningless and irrelevant.
remember, Gravity & Pacific Rim both fail the test, but Twilight is bechdale approved.
Yes, I said "people". They're not homo sapiens and not made of proteins but so what?you've phrased that as though you expect someone to dispute it.
in comic-time, that 'long struggle' from pets to citizens has been what, 18 months or so?
... said non-assholedom does appear to be contingent on finding some way to fit them into an acceptable slot in her existing ideological framework.
I also can't remember enough HTML to embed the link in text.
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Ok, if I had known what was coming today, I would not have read this comic while eating breakfast. :facepalm:
in comic-time, that 'long struggle' from pets to citizens has been what, 18 months or so?
However, I can't see Dr Elicott-Chatham allowing an experimental AI to work with his severely mentally-disturbed daughter,.
oh, is momo gonna try to lecture them? because telling her to mind her own business could be a nice bonding moment for faye and bubs.
Is it a bar for dogs or a bar where dogs are welcome? Either way, I WANNA GO.C'mon man! Rowlf! Rowlf from the Muppets. Dogs owned a bar for years. Duh. lol
oh, is momo gonna try to lecture them? because telling her to mind her own business could be a nice bonding moment for faye and bubs.
It's more likely that she'll deliver a borderline-hyserical rant that emphasises just how scared she is of the thought of humans and AIs being adversaries.
It's more likely that she'll deliver a borderline-hyserical rant that emphasises just how scared she is of the thought of humans and AIs being adversaries.
Wow, you two really dislike her, hey?
However, that aside, you failed to read my post properly. I strongly expect that the problem Momo has with Bubbles' long-ago life choice is more informed by her own fears of human-AI antagonism than anything else and I'm expecting this to be reflected in her approach to this. I wouldn't be surprised if a worried Faye and Bubbles are more worried about Momo, at least at first.
Wow, you two really dislike her, hey?
not at all, i just find her judgemental attitude regarding the whole thing to be a bit annoying
I appreciate and agree with this analysis more than your choice of the term "borderline-hysterical" in your previous post, which, if it didn't indicate hate, certainly didn't indicate any level of respect.Well... Momo's chassis presents a female appearance, so I suppose it was inevitable that "hysterical" would be thrown at her eventually... :roll:
It seems the robots have forgotten the first rule of Fight Club. And the second.
I also can't remember enough HTML to embed the link in text.That wouldnt help you one bit, of course HTML would be blocked.
A bluenose who disapproves because she wants to dictate the morals of others?
An activist who is terrified that robots enacting degrading stereotypes will undermine difficult and continuing work for equality?
There's room for argument whether there's even a difference there. I think there is, and that Momo is the second of the two, but how on earth do you distinguish which is which from the outside?
I also can't remember enough HTML to embed the link in text.That wouldnt help you one bit, of course HTML would be blocked.
HIS NAME IS ROBOT PAULSON :claireface:It seems the robots have forgotten the first rule of Fight Club. And the second.
Well to be fair, that's the human Fight Club.
Robot Fight Club is a bit different in that they don't have Meat Loaf hanging about to get his skull smashed open. :roll:
I wonder if her electrical discharge is a legal weapon in robot fights. Her ring name could be "The Electro-Cutie". :claireface:
Is no-one else hoping Momo's come there to fight? She's small, but she could probably kick ass like River. Not a power in the 'verse can stop her :P
I wonder if her electrical discharge is a legal weapon in robot fights. Her ring name could be "The Electro-Cutie". :claireface:
a much better question is this: how many of her old components (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1298) got ported over to her current chassis?
Y'know, this comic has me wondering if the Robot Fighting arena is even a secret or if like everyone actually knows about it but they just go, eh, why bother them. Cause they're not so good at keeping said secret from the looks of it.
"He turned to the robot, and said
'You picked a fine time to leave me loose eel' "
Well this is one poorly managed skate park.
Are you saying all blue robots are ex-cons? Dangerous thinking there :roll:
"He turned to the robot, and said
'You picked a fine time to leave me loose eel' "
"Four hundred amperes, just for copping a feel ..."
she shoulda stayed with May.
Are you saying all blue robots are ex-cons? Dangerous thinking there :roll:
Not really. I'm saying that, based on the data that May provided (cheap chassis given to her) and that Jeph provided (The specs), he could have been in that situation. It could also be that he couldn't find a cheaper chassis ofc.
And it could also be that it's 5am and my thoughts aren't as clear as they should be.
EDIT: I also thought at the moment that maybe they weren't available for public purchase (as in this being a government contract or something like that). Again, not my finest hour.
Did the fact that it was closed stop people from skating there?Yeah, it did, mainly because the car park bought the skate park and extended the number of spaces it could offer.
You know that you need actual proof of illegal conduct to arrest someone right?No, you need "reasonable suspicion" to arrest them. Proof is only required for conviction.
Anyway, my point was that there is absolutely, positively NO WAY the cops don't know about the illegal fighting ring.
You can speculate all you want about why they're not making arrests. My speculation is that the police and/or judicial, as usual where there are laws that are not vigorously enforced, are engaging in extortion.