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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: 0bsessions on 13 Mar 2008, 07:00
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That's right, there will be an eighth Harry Potter movie, though it's not what you might initially think.
Yes, it's obviously a big part milking the franchise, but not by adding additional crap on top of the series. It seems that Warner Brothers has decided it prudent to split the Deathly Hallows into two movies (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=305030>1=7701) and I couldn't agree more. The last three movies (Though I enjoyed Order of the Phoenix enough) were severely gimped by time constraints. They've come to the (Accurate) conclusion that there is effectively no way to properly trim this one like the others and still come to a proper conclusion.
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I am really happy about this as it means they won't have to chop the book up so badly, but I really wish they would release the two a little closer together. It would be great if there could be some overlap where both films were in theaters at the same time so you could buy a ticket for both and watch them in the same day. November to May is a long time to wait for the second half of a movie.
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::sigh:: Okay...they were tossing around the idea to spit 4 into two parts too...so why is it OK to split up DH but not GoF? I mean, yeah it's the "end" and we need the "whole" story...but still...
I just want to see "eighth" one then. I am seriously only seeing the movie to watch Alan Rickman die so I can cry. Seriously. I have no interest in really seeing six or "seven". The movies were fun when they started, but after they destroyed PoA, I lost my faith in them.
(And ohmigod, I'm totally wearing my Snape shirt right now)
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i jumped out of my seat thinking there would be a new book as well!!! anywya, sounds like a good idea, hopefully much more of the story can be included then rather than cutting vast segments
but is it definetly going to be a big gap between them, or will they be released with just a months difference?
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About six months between the two November 2010 and May 2011), which I feel is reasonable. If they released them only a month apart, they'd cannabalize each other in terms of box office gross. Having them any further apart, though, runs into issues with pacing. I think they're hitting the sweet spot on it.
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I'm happy about this. The last two books are simply amazing. I think the last book is well worth a two parter after all these years of watching. I know, money grubbing, but still, might create a better end product.
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::sigh:: Okay...they were tossing around the idea to spit 4 into two parts too...so why is it OK to split up DH but not GoF? I mean, yeah it's the "end" and we need the "whole" story...but still...
It's mostly because there's not really any good place to split GoF. DH has a period of intense activity at the beginning and a period of intense activity at the end, with a period of pretty much nothing in the middle. It splits up a lot more easily.
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...Well, I'm not going to argue about it. I don't particularly care for GoF anyway, so I wasn't overly heartbroken when they cut all of the good stuff out --I was just annoyed.
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I'm going to echo Misconception's sentiments here. I want to see both of them, back to back, in the theater.
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If they would release them about four months apart instead I think I could catch the first part at my local dollar theater and the second at the regular theater, but I highly doubt this will work with a six month gap.
Also, for those that have read the book, let's speculate as to where they will split the movies!
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Right after Harry and Hermione hook up, but right before Harry and Ron hook up.
Wait, that's all from slash-fic.
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Hmm...I'd have to get out my book to really speculate on that... But maybe after Dobby's death?
...Hey, maybe we should put a spoiler tag in the title, just in case some silly person decides to read (although honestly, if you don't know what happens by now...)
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Man, by the time they finish making all these movies the kids are gonna be pushing thirty, surely? That's some serious Beverly Hills 90210 territory we're getting into. Weird and horrifying!
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Well, the first book was published in 1997. So, yeah, those who started reading at 8 won't yet be thirty. They'll be 22.
I'll be thirty, though. Creepy.
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If the last one comes out in 2010, I think it said, the oldest will be ...23? That's not that overly far-fetched.
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Wow, so this means they'll be able to include the 200 unnecessary pages of pointless, repetitious, boring wandering that took place in the middle of the book. Cool!
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Hey, it wasn't pointless! It was aimless.
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Wow, so this means they'll be able to include the 200 unnecessary pages of pointless, repetitious, boring wandering that took place in the middle of the book. Cool!
I think that's the part they mean to leave out entirely.
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But then it would all fit into one movie ;)
Honestly, all they need to get in there are :The deaths, going to the Black Manor/"making friends with Kreacher" ,The wedding, the information about Voldemort's past, and the battle of Hogwarts, and the romance between Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione
But of course, that's a lot of information thrown to be thrown at you without little things in between to cut it all up.
I think a lot of us will agree that the "Epilogue" is one thing that can be cut without any broken hearts.
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Kreacher, you mean.
Though I'm glad they want to get it all in there, I'm kind of disappointed they didn't pull a LotR and just make extended versions, which is really what I think they should have done and should do. But whateverrrr. Too bad I have to wait six months, but oh well, I'll suck it up and fork over my money.
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--Fixed.
I can't spell. Jeez.
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There's still plenty to add. Most importantly, unless they plan to change the title, they need to include the Deathly Hallows...
They also need to cover the Horcruxes and tidy up some of the loose ends and plot holes left over by shit that was cut from the prior movies (Such as Kreacher taking Regulus' locket and covering what the Hell happened to Barty Crouch Jr.). In order to avoid cutting too much from Half Blood Prince, they'll have to hold a lot of stuff over until Deathly Hallows makes it to the screen.
In terms of ages...you people do realize that principle filming will be long since done for both of them before the first one even sees the screen? Radcliffe will likely be twenty when they finish up (In order to get everything done for December 2010, they'd probably have to finish up summer of 2010 when he's about to turn 21), which is definitely reasonable in terms of playing a seventeen year old. Shit, I'm about a week shy of twenty-four and I can pass for seventeen when I shave.
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Considering I'm the same height as I was when I was 17, with a bit of make-up and different clothes, I could pass for my younger self. At least he's not like...10 years senior of his character.
And it's not like they can't add things to the newer movies for explanation, I think they should have just done it sooner with the first 5 movies. It's ok to have a movie that's 3 hours long! No, I do not want to sit in a theater for more than that, but would I have gotten the DVDs with all the stuff you had to cut out? HECK YES! It would satisfy my nerdish tendencies! (And no, a few deleted scenes that you can watch in the extras section is not an extended version.) I know the constraints with translating a book into a movie, but there are some key things in every one of them that there was plenty of time to explain. GoF would have been better spent explaining the Crouch's instead of having some long dragon chase which was about a page in the book. The first two movies were more successful because the books were shorter, so cutting stuff was easier, but when you cut things, it's kind of silly to cut or change the things that really matter.
Oh, and if they play up the Dumbledore being gay thing in the last movie, I will find the director and the screen writer/s and slap them for their shenanigans.
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Apparently Micheal Gambon has been hamming up the gay-thing off-scene, but he's pretty much business in front of the camera.
I don't think they'll mess with that. Dumbeldore is a dignified character. You can't just suddenly make him every stereotype.
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Average age of people in this thread: 20(at least)
Average age of target demographic of Harry Potter movies: 14(at most)
Amount of people over the age of the target demographic who think they are the target demographic because they argue about it on the internet obsessively: An internet's worth.
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Oh, and if they play up the Dumbledore being gay thing in the last movie, I will find the director and the screen writer/s and slap them for their shenanigans.
Oh God, I never even considered this possibility!
I swear to God if we get a shot of Dumbledore looking dewy-eyed at Grindlewald in flashbacks, everyone around me in the cinema better duck and cover
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::sigh:: Okay...they were tossing around the idea to spit 4 into two parts too...so why is it OK to split up DH but not GoF? I mean, yeah it's the "end" and we need the "whole" story...but still...
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The movies were fun when they started, but after they destroyed PoA, I lost my faith in them.
Seriously, dead on. The movies are so far from complete I can't even watch them anymore. Makes me so angry!!
And I'm sorry, they CANNOT say this isn't mostly about money. I'm not saying 100%, but come on - all the movies since PoA have hacked the books to f***ing pieces and made me upset. I haven't even seen OotP yet, because I could barely care anymore. I already know they're gonna chop it up beyond all recognition, so why even bother watching it?
EVERY other story they're content to murder, but the last one, the one everyone will get all sentimental about - all of a sudden they decide to devise a way to make TWICE as much money in ticket sales, DVD sales and rentals - but "no, no, it's just so we can tell the whole story."
What a crock.
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Omg, someone agreed with me. I might have a heart attack..
Anyway, I think I'm going to re-read DH over my spring break...I would try to read them ALL again over Spring Break, but I don't think I'll have quite -that- much time...
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Seriously? If you have one day off from work or doing anything in particular outside of regular household chores you can knock the first 3 books over in one - two days. Goblet of Fire usually takes me about two days of reading, same with Order of the Phoenix. Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows probably need a little extra time for the sheer amount of content (I usually have to re-read entire pages). Basically what I am saying is that if your spring break is at least about 2 and a half weeks you will totally have enough time.
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Psh, what are you talking about? They can each be read in a day. Trust me...
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I read DH in less than six hours, no stopping. This was from 12:30 am to 6 am after I bought it at midnight.
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Yes they can each be read in a day (Books 1-3 can all be read in the same day). My estimates are going off the assumption that there will be many interruptions. The only reading time I get is on the train or bus to uni or work.
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i read the entire series in a week, and the first three books I knocked over in a leisurely afternoon with a couple of beers which made me feel kind of like a paedophile.
If they would release them about four months apart instead I think I could catch the first part at my local dollar theater and the second at the regular theater, but I highly doubt this will work with a six month gap.
If you take into account the insane amount of business the last movies are going to do as a result of being the closer of this series, you might just be wrong there.
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I swear to God if we get a shot of Dumbledore looking dewy-eyed at Grindlewald in flashbacks, everyone around me in the cinema better duck and cover
tell me when you go to the movie i want to see this
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and you're not the only one.
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I doubt I'll see these movies, but one thing that does make me curious is what they're going to name them. I really hope they can come up with someting better than The Deathly Hallows Part 1/Part 2 but nothing really occures to me.
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Basically what I am saying is that if your spring break is at least about 2 and a half weeks you will totally have enough time.
Shit, some people get 2 and a half weeks worth of spring break? Damn.
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. Basically what I am saying is that if your spring break is at least about 2 and a half weeks you will totally have enough time.
My spring break is 1 week --and I have to work Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday --Saturday and Sunday. Then, I am going with my Mom to get her first tattoo on Thursday, but I can read at the parlor so that's not that big a deal. Plus, I want to play some Guitar Hero so people stop bitching at me 'cause I don't have any songs when they go to play (they are so fuckin' picky...)
I tend to read really quickly the first time I read something, so when I read it the second time around, I like to take my time with it so I absorb more of it. I'm amazed when I read Manga or comic books a second time around and catch things in the art that I never noticed before.
Oh, and besides: I've probably read the first 3 books about 20+ times each. It's the last four that I need to read more.
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i too should probably reread the more recent books.
and 2011? I'll be waaay over the target demographic by then, and probbably abroad
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Well, I haven't been too keen on any of the Harry Potter movies so far (except for Prisoner of Azkaban- that was a wonderful surprise), and I can't see them doing much better with this one. It's a good idea to split it into two parts because of the length, but that just leaves more for them to do wrong with.
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My favorite part of all five of the movies, thus far, has been Luna Lovegood.
I swear to god, an actual frickin' wizard pulled her right out of the dang book. She's perfect!
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I am so with you on that. I wish I knew someone like that so she could be my friend. Better yet, I wish I could find this wizard of which you speak and have him get her for me. I'd be all like, "My god, you're insane...YOU TOTALLY KICK ASS!"
As for a "the eighth" movie, it doesn't really surprise me. When they made the first one there was talk of splitting up the fourth book into two parts. I have to imagien the reason they didn't split 4 or 5 (and as far as I know 6) is because then you would end up with a whole bunch of really long movies. I can see it working once, but not four times.
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Jesus. We're really going to have to put up with Harry Potter until 2011? I thought that, with the last book, it would finally end or at least die down. No such luck.
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When the 6th book came out I was at a summer camp. In between classes, meals, and field trips, as well as chatting with friends, I managed to read books 1-5 in 2 days, and I have NO CLUE how I did it. Then I read 6 in one day. *boggle*
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You just read all of the good parts, lol.
I know sometimes when I'm bored, and I don't really want to read the WHOLE book, I'll just go back and read certain chapters that I really liked. Like the chapters w/ Snape's past in it from OotP. --Speaking of reading, I still haven't read DH again yet. I am kind of caught up in editing...oh well. It's not like my book is GOING anywhere...
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I think I'm going to wait a few years... give me time to forget the smaller details. Then I'll read them again, hopefully still being to enjoy them just as much as the first time (or 2).
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I've been steadily dissapointed by each movie. Every time a new one comes out they have all these interviews and in each one (since the third) Daniel Radcliffe or Emma Watson or Rupert Grint specifically state "oh yeah, we really gave it our all, we really stepped up our acting this time, it's the best Harry Potter movie yet." And every time I am treated to the same overacting, the same annoying, awkward moments. Gary Oldman did his amazing performances in 3 of the films. Dumbledore has always been amazing. However, everything else is not. I'll be avoiding however many movies they decide to put out for the 8th movie, I don't see how it'll make a difference. It'll seem less hurried but it'll still have the same overacting and terrible filmmaking except...you'll have to put up with it for longer.
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Alan Rickman is the only reason why I'd watch this.
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I cried many a time in book 7 but i don't think films 7 and 8 will have quite the same effect due to the cagey awkward acting.
Also, I don't think Daniel Radcliffe will have any trouble still looking 17. However, I have no idea what they will do if they include the shitty epilogue thing. He can't pull of being over 30.
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They'll probably just use the guy who plays the dad in his flashbacks.
And by 2010, I'm fairly certain he'll have gotten some facial hair anyway, it would then just be a matter of prosthetics.
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Well, as long as it sin't as horribly mislead as the others, and has details that some people find "irrevelant" in it, i'll be fine.
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Just use the guy who played his dad. Sounds exceedingly simple to me.
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I cried many a time in book 7 but i don't think films 7 and 8 will have quite the same effect due to the cagey awkward acting.
Also, I don't think Daniel Radcliffe will have any trouble still looking 17. However, I have no idea what they will do if they include the shitty epilogue thing. He can't pull of being over 30.
I hope they don't do the "shitty epilogue thing." I thought the seventh book was fantastic, and that epilogue was totally stupid and shitty.
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That's how I feel about the epilogue. Actually, when people were posting pages all over the internet, I read it thinking it was fake and then I got the book and I was really REALLY disappointed it was real. It's probably the thing I think the series could have done without. Disappointing endings can ruin a series, but luckily the rest of the book was strong enough to outweigh the ending.
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He's been too old to play the part for a couple years now. He was supposed to be 15 in the last movie but he could have easily passed for 18-19. Anyway it doesn't matter because the movie is going to be terrible. I believe the only reason why people are going to like it is because it's "Harry Potter." That's all. Girls will be "OMG Rupert Grint is SO hawt" and guys will be like "yeah......Ginny." But the movie is still going to be terrible.
The epilogue for the book was the single biggest copout I've EVER seen in my life....actually, that's not really true. Ever since the 4th book the series has been terrible and predictable and incredibly angsty. Malfoy doesn't die? WHAT!? Harry is still alive?! WHAT!? Ok...so Harry....hates Malfoy and Malfoy hates Harry and in the seventh book they're PRETTY close to killing each other...and yet years later they can see each other on a railway platform and not duke it out? Not possible.
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The epilogue for the book was the single biggest copout I've EVER seen in my life....actually, that's not really true. Ever since the 4th book the series has been terrible and predictable and incredibly angsty. Malfoy doesn't die? WHAT!? Harry is still alive?! WHAT!? Ok...so Harry....hates Malfoy and Malfoy hates Harry and in the seventh book they're PRETTY close to killing each other...and yet years later they can see each other on a railway platform and not duke it out? Not possible.
a couple of points:
1) Harry saved his life. No matter how much you hate someone, if a wholly selfless act out of the goodness of their heart is the sole reason you're not a smoking pile of Fiendfyre ash, you'll cut 'em a little slack. Oh, you'll still hate him, but there'll be a microscopic dusty fleck of gratitude nagging you in the back of your mind.
2) After Voldemort was destroyed, Malfoy's time to shine was over. The reign of Dark wizardry was toast, so the Dark Wizard kids pretty much go into hiding and go on with their lives after that - especially if they, like Malfoy, are lucky enough not to be locked away for the rest of their days.
3) Malfoy was changed after that experience. After basically being condemned to death for some s*** your father did, and almost dying numerous times, anyone would be. You realize you got off lucky and you grow older and a little wiser and decide to focus on more important things in life. The old hatred is still there, but you're not gonna go dueling in the streets anymore.
I do agree with you though, that Harry not dying was crap. Having a martyr who lives is just.... I dunno, feels wrong.
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A few things
People who can read book five in one sitting are insane. I can read each of the other books in a day. I can read the first three in a day... but serious OotP is huuuge, it takes me two days every time. I read DH in one sitting, six hours, as well.
The epilogue was full of crap. I understand JK Rowling needed to give Harry a family after his traumatic childhood, I do... but seriously that was tied up waaay too neatly. The girl of his dreams is conveniently the girl who's been in love with him since she was 10. She's also so beautiful that the Slytherins would have her if her family wasn't full of blood traitors. She's a great athlete and she also has a mean bogey hex which she can get away with, every time. She's funny, popular and relates to Harry because she's also been possessed by Voldermort. She also has red hair and reminds Harry of his mother. She's also a bit of an outcast in the beginning because of her second hand robes and lack of nice things, so she's suffered for character. Isn't that just perfect?
=.= And anyways... here in the muggle world, how many people marry their high school sweethearts? Really.
Any ways, Harry and Draco, I don't think it's unusual that they can at least be civil to each other in public. Harry did save his life in the room of requirement. Narcissa may have had ulterior motives when she told Voldermort Harry was dead, but she did save his life.
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People who can read book five in one sitting are insane.
Maybe you're the one who is insane, and the rest of us are just spectacularly awesome... Or have a lot of time on our hands.
(For the record: I believe it took me about...15 hours, including the half-hour of sleep I took to read the book...the first time. The second time it was probably more like 10)
I agree about the prologue thing though. It was pretty bad. I would have preferred to have never seen it, and left with that "wonderment" of what happened to the characters afterwards. But, over all, I still love the series, and I don't understand why people who don't insist on trying to bring down the rest of us for liking it... If you say they're so shitty, why do you involve yourselves in conversations about it??
Just sayin'.
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I read all of the books in one sitting the first time I read them, including OotP. They aren't challenging reads, even if some of them are quite long, and I'm a fast reader as is. One of my friends actually finished a few hours before I did and had to struggle not to tell me about what happened in book 5. I had to do the same for book 7 with her, because I didn't have to work the next day and she did.
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I would like it noted that I guarantee every single person here bitching about the fact the ending was "wrapped up too neatly" or would have preferred to "wonder" would have been bitching relentlessly about a lack of closure and asking "but what happens to everyone" if the book ended after the Battle of Hogwarts. Ambiguous endings do not please the masses.
Seriously, are we, as a society, so jaded that we can't deal with a happy ending once in a while? Jesus, a little optimism won't kill you.
I would also like it noted that I feel Harry's relationship with Ginny was rather natural and organic. They weren't "high school sweethearts." They dated for all of a couple months throughout their time in school together. She was his best friend's sister and I'd classify her much more along the lines of "girl next door" than anything and she fit the classic girl next door archetype. She was the one girl amongst six boys raised in a loving, but tight environment. If you ask me, Ginny's one of the more realistic characters in the books.
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I liked the epilogue, it wrapped everything up nicely and (big surprise) I'm a sucker for happy endings. I just don't think it was particularly well-written. After all 7 books it felt like she had written it while she was writing Philosopher's Stone. It didn't fit in with the level of writing that I had come to expect after Order of the Phoenix.
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You see, I kind of liked that. It felt like it was going full circle.
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I guess, it just struck me as a clumsy handling of good material.
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I followed Jon's advice because I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GO BLIND.
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I've edited it and I swear Linds, if you don't edit that before the slash-fic people see that and start fucking up my thread, I swear to god, there will be hell to pay.
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Fixed it.
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A wise decision.
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I agree that ending the book with the conclusion of the Battle of Hogwarts would be a tremendous mistake. There'd be no sense of closure and people would be hounding JKR forever trying to figure out what happens to Harry and the gang.
I also love happy endings, and having Harry Potter ending on a sad note would completely destroy the dreams of the kids who read them. HOWEVER what I did not appreciate about the epilogue was how sappy, stupid, pointless and predictable it was. I was rooting for Harry to die, Ron and Hermoine to mourn him and for them and Ginny to destroy Voldemort forever. As soon as Harry came back to life I knew that everything was going to end happily and hey....Dumbledore was brought back too!? Even though she said he wasn't going to be brought back?! Pfftt.
What I hated the most about the epilogue was that it really left me wanting a lot more. The LAST thing I cared about would be the kids that Ron, Hermione, Ginny, Harry, and Malfoy end up having. I was more interested in what Harry's job was going to be, I mean you can't just spit in the Minister Of Magic's face and just expect to be an Auror. I cared about Neville and Percy and how Fred/George was dealing with the death of Fred/George.
However, what I got was fanservice, like an anime pantyshot, makes you happy....but really doesn't do anything at all.
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Who's trying to bring down anyone else? I love the Harry Potter series, I've been reading the books since I was in sixth grade. I wouldn't have made it to the epilogue otherwise -- that doesn't mean I can't dislike parts of it. That also doesn't mean I'm trying to change your mind by having an opinion.
To Obsessions,
No, ending the book after the Battle of Hogwarts wouldn't have been a good place to stop... but Rowling really could have done a much better job with the epilogue. It felt like a cop out to have things end so serenely. She had so much material to work with and yet she didn't address any of it.
How about some closure for the people who actually died? Harry got to see Lupin after, but he got to be with his friends and maybe he didn't have to suffer from the effects of the werewolf bite post death, but what about Fred and the rest of the Weasleys? Only Dobby got a funeral, there was no time for any one else. I'm surprised Malfoy could even bring his kid to school and that he wasn't being stoned to death. What happened to all the surviving death eaters? Were there trials? She spent all of book five telling preaching about how the four houses should unite and then didn't develop it any further. Aside from Snape, none of the Slytherins helped out with the war effort. Not one student from one quarter of the magical British community actually bothered to join up in DA or make any difference on the other side. She left a lot of things hanging, and not in a good way.
I just don't like Ginny in general, so that might be it. =P I didn't think there relationship had much development. Granted, he only started noticing her after he got over his feelings for Cho (with the help of some jealousy) but
1) It felt like it came from the middle of no where
2) It seemed like they had little to no interaction whatsoever
3) I would have bought a relationship with Luna -- she seemed to "get" Harry more.
It felt like she was his little sister more than anything else. That's all I'm saying. It felt weird, underdeveloped and much too convenient. Look at Ron and Hermione's relationship. Even if you were to dislike the pairing, you could see it happening since book four. They're not perfect, they have obvious flaws and holes with their relationship as seen with their constant bickering but it was always there.
Any who, also about crushing children's dreams... after the third book, it's not really meant for children to read. It has to be young adult+... too angsty otherwise.
=P and now you've gotten me curious about slash-fic people.
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Linds,
Dammit.
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Dammit?
=P and now you've gotten me curious about slash-fic people.
Nooooooooo! If you are not into that sort of thing, you do not want to go there. Unless it's read by amper, then it's good for comic value, but other wise that is a scary place.
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I just don't like Ginny in general, so that might be it. =P I didn't think there relationship had much development. Granted, he only started noticing her after he got over his feelings for Cho (with the help of some jealousy) but
1) It felt like it came from the middle of no where
2) It seemed like they had little to no interaction whatsoever
3) I would have bought a relationship with Luna -- she seemed to "get" Harry more.
It felt like she was his little sister more than anything else. That's all I'm saying. It felt weird, underdeveloped and much too convenient. Look at Ron and Hermione's relationship. Even if you were to dislike the pairing, you could see it happening since book four. They're not perfect, they have obvious flaws and holes with their relationship as seen with their constant bickering but it was always there.
Never before has someone actually...articulated this for me.
Ugh, the Ginny relationship always seemed really *odd* to me, because it just came out of nowhere. Granted, after re-reading the books *cough*several times*cough*, it kind of made sense, just...still seemed weird. She's your best friend's SISTER, dude! It's like if I dated one of my friend's older brothers....it'd be weeeeeeeeird! I just wouldn't do it...
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Mmm... my sister actually has the same problem, too. My sister is 23 and my brother is 22. It's not that she has a thing against younger guys, but she feels like if she dates someone his age, it's like dating her brother...
Although, I'm 19 and I don't have a problem dating someone 22... but I'd probably not date my brother's friends. It would be weird.
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I don't see a problem with it. One of my friends is going out with his sister's best friend. They (http://achewood.com/index.php?date=06072007)'re moving out together this year in fact. Honestly the only thing that has stopped me from making a move on any of my friends' siblings is, well I just don't like them. Other than a weird territoriality about your friends or your siblings I really can't see why it would be an issue.
Edited because I forgot about my new hobby.
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Man, if any of my friends had attractive sisters, I'd have reeped that gold mine ages ago.
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I have friends who have dated friend's younger siblings. As long as the older sibling is okay with it, I don't see the big deal.
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Yeah but quite often they're not..
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Fuck Harry Potter. Seriously, how can anybody read those books and not come away rom them disgusted. The prose is awful, the dialogue is reminiscent of the worst B-movies. All in all, they are shitty novels And I still haven't read six or seven.
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Rowling isn't the greatest writer that ever lived, and I think that awful epilogue is testament to that. But considering that a lot of people started reading the books when they were very young (I was 8 I think?) they were drawn into the imaginative aspects of the world that she's created, like the spells and monsters - not the amazingly sosphisticated dialogue, or the beautifully written prose. Yeah of course, ten years later I can look back and see because of the wider reading I've done that she's not the greatest, but not only did she improve considerably from Philosopher's Stone to Deathly Hallows but she did do a lot in getting kids actually reading books. Plus, its the nostalgia of dipping into that imaginative journey with Harry and pals every once and a while that I find enjoyable. But yeah, the books aren't everyone cups of tea. And I've definetly seen some B-movies with much worse dialogue.
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I don't know, I've seen some pretty bad B-movies.
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minorbird pretty much nailed it.
Literary genius it's not, but she's got children reading. I think that matters a hell of a whole lot.
Besides, something doesn't need to be perfect to be enjoyable. Take the original Star Wars Trilogy. One of the most beloved stories and film series of our generation. The dialogue is actually relatively cheesy and weak half the time and the plot is an incredible cliche when you take the space element out. Poor peasant meets mentor figure and goes on a quest to save the princess. Hero gets caught up in a quest to save the world from an evil emperor. Throw in magic and a daring rogue and that's essentially every fantasy story ever.
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Don't forget dysfunctional families! They're everywhere!
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Actually JK Rowling ISN'T getting kids to read. A study was done somewhere in BC that showed that after Harry Potter kid's aren't reading anything else. While I applaud her for getting some kids reading if they put down reading after Harry Potter nothing has changed.
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But it is encouraging literacy. I think. She does use some big words from time to time that I imagine most 8 year olds would be clueless about otherwise.
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She's a better story teller than she is a writer, if anyone understands what I mean by that o.o''
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That her plots are compelling, but lack cohesion and occasionally have holes in them? Her characters are easy to connect to, but lack any real depth or strong motivations? That her setting is ill-defined and basically a thin mat veneer for her characters to stand in front of?
Yeah. But I still enjoy the books. Not so much the movies.
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Actually JK Rowling ISN'T getting kids to read. A study was done somewhere in BC that showed that after Harry Potter kid's aren't reading anything else. While I applaud her for getting some kids reading if they put down reading after Harry Potter nothing has changed.
Whilst I did read a lot before HP, I found it incredibly hard to move past those books as I had become so completely involved with the characters and the story. Then I discovered Tolkien and everything was good again.
The dilemma is that if you really enjoyed the books, you're not going to enjoy the movies because of your expectations. Whenver there is an adaptation of a book I've read to a movie I constantly find myself, despite my best efforts not to, nitpicking where they have missed something, or changed the chronological order of things, or just generally fucked everything up.
As such, I almost died when I saw the Golden Compass. Completely butchered it.
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For (http://achewood.com/index.php?date=09072007) some reason I am able to separate the two mediums from each other so that they both remain entertaining. As a result I love terrible films even though they butcher the source material. On the upside, I am much happier this way.
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Whatever keeps you sane. I'm one of those assholes who sits in the cinema furiously muttering things like "where the fuck did the Quidditch go?" or "what spell was that?". Inconsistencies drive me bonkers.
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I think they should cut out any mention of the (absolutely unnecessary) Deathly Hallows, but keep the title. Mwa ha ha.
I got quite annoyed with her introducing the bit about deathly hallows halfway into the book, because adding too many plot elements into a story is weak. I mean, even the greatest minds have done it (Hitchcock for one) but it really disengages my interest.