Could there be a whole hidden side to AI society? Someone should ask Momo about it.
I've been trying to hold off judging Bubbles too harshly, but I can't any more. She's a huge bitch, and I would not be her friend.Yeah no. Did you not see her call herself broken? It's pretty much clear to me after that that she has whatever the AI form of PTSD is. Don't forget, all the humans on her squad were killed. That's bound to do something to you.
I've been trying to hold off judging Bubbles too harshly, but I can't any more. She's a huge bitch, and I would not be her friend.
Did you not see her call herself broken?Did we read the same comic? She explicitly states that she is not broken. She's probably either lying or wrong, but still.
Did you not see her call herself broken?Did we read the same comic? She explicitly states that she is not broken. She's probably either lying or wrong, but still.
I've been trying to hold off judging Bubbles too harshly, but I can't any more. She's a huge bitch, and I would not be her friend.
Maybe it's because I'm socially incompetent, but I don't understand what Faye was trying to do.
I hope you are not blaming Marten for acting the way he did. Because the average joe WILL be scared if anyone took him/her by the collar and lift him/her up that way.
Or Baye(blade)Their first opening is so fucking metal. Thanks for reminding me of it.
Faye probably said somewhere along the lines of five sentences to Bubbles, leaving the android to the likes of Marten, Dale, Marigold and Pintsize.
Not sure what Bubbles is after when it comes to social interaction.
It doesn't work that way in real life. I've never made any friends at a party.Maybe it's because I'm socially incompetent, but I don't understand what Faye was trying to do.
She was trying to offer friendship and a bit of socialization to someone she thought might need it. Faye might have seen some of herself in her darker moments in Bubbles and thought that she could help, or at the very least offer her a chance to make some friends or meet some people.
I'm glad Bubbles stormed out of the party instead of having a great time. It's less clichéd.In my case it was the socially incompetent person was reluctantly dragged out to the bar. At the bar literally nobody said one word to me. So I got up, put on my jacket, and left. Nobody noticed. Nobody the next day asked where I had disappeared to.
I've read the story about how the emotionally damaged person was dragged reluctantly to a party, made connections, had a great time and either was instantly fixed to embark on life as an extrovert or took steps on the path to becoming fixed and an extrovert many times before.
To quote the great Ben Yahtzee Croshaw, not every introvert is waiting for the day somebody kicks down their door and forcibly drags them to a roller rink. I think Faye just learnt that.
It doesn't work that way in real life. I've never made any friends at a party.Maybe it's because I'm socially incompetent, but I don't understand what Faye was trying to do.
She was trying to offer friendship and a bit of socialization to someone she thought might need it. Faye might have seen some of herself in her darker moments in Bubbles and thought that she could help, or at the very least offer her a chance to make some friends or meet some people.
I just hope we're finally finished with this deathly dull, one-note, thoroughly unpleasant character.Agreed, wouldn't miss Faye at all.
You're not an introvert. Introverts find parties stressful, not fun.It doesn't work that way in real life. I've never made any friends at a party.Maybe it's because I'm socially incompetent, but I don't understand what Faye was trying to do.
She was trying to offer friendship and a bit of socialization to someone she thought might need it. Faye might have seen some of herself in her darker moments in Bubbles and thought that she could help, or at the very least offer her a chance to make some friends or meet some people.
I think you are going to the wrong parties. I've made lots of friends at parties. I met my wife at a party. Married 20 years, now.
It doesn't work that way in real life. I've never made any friends at a party.
I think you are going to the wrong parties. I've made lots of friends at parties. I met my wife at a party. Married 20 years, now.
I just hope we're finally finished with this deathly dull, one-note, thoroughly unpleasant character.Agreed, wouldn't miss Faye at all.
On topic: I am very interested to see what happens the next time Faye and Bubbles work together.
Off topic:
I'm so sick of this damn introvert/extrovert dichotomy.
Technically, I am an introvert. I need quiet time to recharge.
However, I can go to parties, interact with people, etc. I enjoy parties. You find what works for you, what you are comfortable with. If you need to, you can push your boundaries.
I'm just so tired of hearing people talk about introverts as though we are all social misanthropes who find parties (or social interaction in general) the most terrifying/unpleasant experience on earth. Maybe some people do find parties that way, but it isn't an all or nothing thing.
gah, I'm partly posting this out of an irritation that has been building for the last couple of years from all of the "introvert/extrovert" articles and I see plastered all over social media.
/rant
On topic: I am very interested to see what happens the next time Faye and Bubbles work together.
One thing that you can always be sure of in QC - In the end, Marten understands people better than Faye can. Faye, after all, has spent most of her post-college life trying to avoid making connections, on a subconscious level at least.
it isn't an all or nothing thing.
I just hope we're finally finished with this deathly dull, one-note, thoroughly unpleasant character.Agreed, wouldn't miss Faye at all.
Here's a thought about Bubbles - Why did her squadmates give her that nickname? I'm thinking that, way back when, her personality would have seemed more like Emily than anyone else. Just imagine what a naive, enthusiastic, intelligent and friendly personality would go through in war and you get some idea of how she became the being she is today.
People probably complain more about Marten than they do about Winslow.I just hope we're finally finished with this deathly dull, one-note, thoroughly unpleasant character.Agreed, wouldn't miss Faye at all.
Fine, we'll simply delete all the characters that people complain about and be done with it. QC then won't have any characters except Marten.(click to show/hide)
Life is tough all over.
Especially if you don't like to be around people.
Those critters are just everywhere.
Fine, we'll simply delete all the characters that people complain about and be done with it. QC then won't have any characters except Marten.(click to show/hide)
However, I can go to parties, interact with people, etc. I enjoy parties. You find what works for you, what you are comfortable with. If you need to, you can push your boundaries.
Wrong. Not everyone.
QuoteI'm just so tired of hearing people talk about introverts as though we are all social misanthropes who find parties (or social interaction in general) the most terrifying/unpleasant experience on earth. Maybe some people do find parties that way, but it isn't an all or nothing thing.
gah, I'm partly posting this out of an irritation that has been building for the last couple of years from all of the "introvert/extrovert" articles and I see plastered all over social media.
/rant
What do you care, though? I was raped twice by the same man. I suffer from extreme social anxiety and agoraphobia as a result. Good for you that you can go to parties and interact. How dare you act as if those of us who find that sort of activity scary as hell to be be some sort of of social defectives that are reflecting badly on you. (mod edit: removed a statement of supreme exasperation that went personal)
What is Momo reacting to in the first panel?
Back to the comic - I'm now wondering what Faye is going to do from here. I can't quite imagine her simply leaving well enough alone.
Fine, we'll simply delete all the characters that people complain about and be done with it. QC then won't have any characters except Marten.(click to show/hide)
That was a lot better than I was expecting.
Garfield Minus Garfield may have a new rival.
Comic's up.
Faye is doing the right thing.
I just hope we're finally finished with this deathly dull, one-note, thoroughly unpleasant character.Agreed, wouldn't miss Faye at all.
Fine, we'll simply delete all the characters that people complain about and be done with it. QC then won't have any characters except Marten.(click to show/hide)
I just hope we're finally finished with this deathly dull, one-note, thoroughly unpleasant character.Agreed, wouldn't miss Faye at all.
Fine, we'll simply delete all the characters that people complain about and be done with it. QC then won't have any characters except Marten.(click to show/hide)
That's a mighty nice strawman you got there.
A crushing blow to the Flairten ship.
Meanwhile at that same time and location...
Hanners: Check out this device my dad sent me. You press a button and a space pizza lands at your exact location.
Clin-ton: (dies)
Fine, we'll simply delete all the characters that people complain about and be done with it. QC then won't have any characters except Marten.(click to show/hide)
That was a lot better than I was expecting.
Garfield Minus Garfield may have a new rival.
My Photoshop skills aren't really there, yet, but this one seemed worthwhile:(click to show/hide)
Perhaps a new thread was born?
That's a mighty nice strawman you got there.
SubredditI don't know why, but I always think it's strange that you frequent both the subreddit and here. I'm not saying stop, and you're probably not the only one, but I think you're the only one I've ever heard mention it.
Oh BTW gender-specific insults like "bitch" or "cunt" have made people feel unwelcome, careful there. "Fuckhead" is forceful but gender-neutral.
I have to agree with the the guy on the Subreddit who said that, out of sight of us, Claire stepped on Martin's foot when, in panel 3, he said: "But you're always welcome!", making him hurriedly add: "I mean, not for the smooching part!"
People who feel that the use of gender-specific insults is more important than the comfort of others? Probably, but not here.Oh BTW gender-specific insults like "bitch" or "cunt" have made people feel unwelcome, careful there. "Fuckhead" is forceful but gender-neutral.
Really? People like that actually exist? I though that was just a Reddit myth.
BTW - You can tell Faye is under pressure; her native Georgian accent has started to come outEvery time someone refers to Faye's "Georgian" accent, I imagine her sounding vaguely Russian (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=142) (even though I know that Georgian is a different language, unrelated to Russian, and so presumably producing a different accent when speaking English).
What is Momo reacting to in the first panel?Someone just told her that Bubbles left the party before she could get her phone-number, MAC address or whatever.
BTW - You can tell Faye is under pressure; her native Georgian accent has started to come outEvery time someone refers to Faye's "Georgian" accent, I imagine her sounding vaguely Russian (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=142) (even though I know that Georgian is a different language, unrelated to Russian, and so presumably producing a different accent when speaking English).
Isn't a were-jaguar just a transformer? :claireface:People will write fan-fiction about the strangest things.
Oh BTW gender-specific insults like "bitch" or "cunt" have made people feel unwelcome, careful there. "Fuckhead" is forceful but gender-neutral.
Really? People like that actually exist? I though that was just a Reddit myth.
Not to be the "hur hur, typo" guy, but it's now my headcannon that "impresonal" is the Canadian spelling of "impersonal".It's just like "metre" or "litre." The R and the E are reversed because French or something.
Oh BTW gender-specific insults like "bitch" or "cunt" have made people feel unwelcome, careful there. "Fuckhead" is forceful but gender-neutral.
Really? People like that actually exist? I though that was just a Reddit myth.
The moderators heard the same thing from enough people, and from people we've learned to respect for their level-headedness, to take the issue seriously.
Love the comic, Jeph, but your fans are a little thin skinned for me, so, see ya.
"My sex life? Yes, yes, I've got top men working on it as we speak."
"My sex life? Yes, yes, I've got top men working on it as we speak."
"Bottom were-jaguars"? Is that some kind of furry gay porn fetish I haven't heard of?
Wow! Bubbles needs more robust exercise gear! Kevlar? Chain mail? Solid rubber? Steel?
...why should he?
...why should he?
- You take it upon yourself to assume from one of the strips that the character is an "introvert."
- Later on, you take it upon yourself to assume, on a similarly flimsy basis, that the character is an "extrovert."
- You take it upon yourself to assume from one of the strips that the character is an "introvert."
- Later on, you take it upon yourself to assume, on a similarly flimsy basis, that the character is an "extrovert."
In the first matter, there was some wishful thinking involved.
This new strip indicates a disappointment in solitude unbecoming of an introvert.
Oof. I have been there. Sort of. Minus the rest of Bubbles' past.
Bubbles hates that she acted the way she did. This suggests she actually liked Faye's friends more than she was willing to admit.
This is painful, but hopeful for the future...
I'm trying to get my head around this complaint.I don't even know where to begin.
- Jeph writes a new character into the story.
- You take it upon yourself to assume from one of the strips that the character is an "introvert."
- Later on, you take it upon yourself to assume, on a similarly flimsy basis, that the character is an "extrovert."
- You immediately conclude that Jeph must be incapable of writing about "introverts," or at least your conception of one.
- You further conclude that the cast are not diverse.
Is the "stupid punching bsg" just a typo or am I missing some indie thing going on?
Wow! Bubbles needs more robust exercise gear! Kevlar? Chain mail? Solid rubber? Steel?
I'm trying to get my head around this complaint.I don't even know where to begin.
- Jeph writes a new character into the story.
- You take it upon yourself to assume from one of the strips that the character is an "introvert."
- Later on, you take it upon yourself to assume, on a similarly flimsy basis, that the character is an "extrovert."
- You immediately conclude that Jeph must be incapable of writing about "introverts," or at least your conception of one.
- You further conclude that the cast are not diverse.
Nah I get it. Introverts are often portrayed as "wrong" or "not trying enough" or something. Maybe Citizen First Class is an introvert and felt good getting a positive example for once, maybe he/she isn't and is just pissed about stereotypes.
Also: poor, poor Bubbles :-(
Is the "stupid punching bsg" just a typo or am I missing some indie thing going on?
I'm trying to get my head around this complaint.I don't even know where to begin.
- Jeph writes a new character into the story.
- You take it upon yourself to assume from one of the strips that the character is an "introvert."
- Later on, you take it upon yourself to assume, on a similarly flimsy basis, that the character is an "extrovert."
- You immediately conclude that Jeph must be incapable of writing about "introverts," or at least your conception of one.
- You further conclude that the cast are not diverse.
Nah I get it. Introverts are often portrayed as "wrong" or "not trying enough" or something. Maybe Citizen First Class is an introvert and felt good getting a positive example for once, maybe he/she isn't and is just pissed about stereotypes.
Also: poor, poor Bubbles :-(
Yeah. It would be one thing if this weren't at the very least the second time we've seen this: a character is introduced who, for whatever reason, prefers solitude and lack of socialization to the group standard of "We should spend most evenings hanging out with at least some of our friends!" In both cases, this has been shown to be the result of some form of psychological issues. In Marigold's case, low self-esteem; now with Bubbles, PTSD. It's only two data points, but both of those data points fall into "if you don't like socialization, then clearly there is something WRONG with you". And that's a very common narrative, but it's also horseshit when it's the only narrative we ever see with people who don't like socialization.
You could also make the argument that Hanners falls into this narrative, although she's been a willing participant in the expansion of her social life all along. She genuinely wants to push her boundaries and better fit into what she deems "normal".
On the other hand, we have Penelope. She has a boyfriend and occasionally shows up to parties, but she's also very vehement that spending an evening reorganizing her bookshelves is just as valid a use of her time as spending it on a date. That doesn't seem to have changed.
Is the "stupid punching bsg" just a typo or am I missing some indie thing going on?
Is the "stupid punching bsg" just a typo or am I missing some indie thing going on?
Is the "stupid punching bsg" just a typo or am I missing some indie thing going on?
That was my thought. SHE'S A CYLON!Is the "stupid punching bsg" just a typo or am I missing some indie thing going on?
Battlestar Galactica?
Remember when this strip was about people and interpersonal relationships instead of emo Blade Runner extras? That was awesome. If this week is any indication, it's now a 1:4 ratio, respectively.
If anything, it may be the result of some other action where all he vaunted power, training and skills were of no use whatsoever.
An example would be This Horrific Tragedy (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/10/04/all-my-babies-are-dead-says-brampton-mother-at-visitation-for-children-and-grandfather-killed-in-crash.html) where the first responders had to deal with the aftermath and the victims passing away right then and there as everyone was rushing to peel them out of the vehicle. :cry:
* do not click the link unless you are morbidly curious on the details.
I hope Jeph expands on if, and why Bubbles has PTSD, too. "Been to war" isn't really a good enough explanation-it takes more than a really bad experience to develop something like that.
Also, just to raise a point, her PTSD may not have anything to do with direct combat at all since a soldiers training is supposed to include the tools to deal with combat stress long before they are mustered out on active duty.I am puzzled by these postings above suggesting that the stress of battle is not a sufficient explanation for Bubbles' possible PTSD. Since the days when it was called "shell-shock", has not a major part of the literature on the subject related to military psychological casualties?
But what is she mainjacking? If it isn't "My Litttle Pony" episodes, she could be much closer to Faye than we want to think.I thought she was just recharging. Though the cable is a bit thin for that, now I come to think of it (depending on the charging voltage, obviously). Bubbles must have some pretty solid energy-storage after all.
But what is she mainjacking? If it isn't "My Litttle Pony" episodes, she could be much closer to Faye than we want to think. Maybe they -do- need each other...
I have to agree with the the guy on the Subreddit who said that, out of sight of us, Claire stepped on Martin's foot when, in panel 3, he said: "But you're always welcome!", making him hurriedly add: "I mean, not for the smooching part!"
I'm quite tickled by the idea that there are readers who saw that last panel and thought to themselves, "Marten is being quite awkward - there must be some explanation."
If she lives at the shop they may have 480V available. That cord doesn't look bigger than 16 gauge.
I think she's recharging. She is and older model of military AnthroPC and it may also a faculty of her being an early Military Combat AI/AnthroPC. You know, a limiting factor built into her by the military as a form of controlling her and her kind just in case.
"My sex life? Yes, yes, I've got top men working on it as we speak."
If she lives at the shop they may have 480V available. That cord doesn't look bigger than 16 gauge.
Wow! Bubbles needs more robust exercise gear! Kevlar? Chain mail? Solid rubber? Steel?
I think that's missing the point. She wanted to kill something and killing a punching bag doesn't carry unfortunate legal penalties.
I think people are overstating her danger by quite a bit. She did not hit Faye. She did not miss by accident. She was sending a clear warning to someone who doesn't take verbal or non verbal clues or requests to leave her alone. Bubbles is well aware of that fact because that is exactly why she got herself into the situation at the party in the first place. Faye kept pushing and pushing until she found the right button to mash. So the only thing Bubbles had left as she saw it was a direct physical threat.
Then she went home and tried to work out her frustration on some heavy bags. It didn't work, but at no time during any of this did she lose control, or was actually a danger, aside from freak accidents with flying masonry. Given the fact she can put her fist through all that leather and sand, it's quite likely that she pulled her punch on the wall, using only enough to demonstrate her strength.
Also keep in mind that Pintsize didn't have a military grade chassis taken from him. He had an active military weapon.
"My sex life is a DIY project.""My sex life? Yes, yes, I've got top men working on it as we speak."
well it's either that, or you handle everything yourself.
i'm fully willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't actually trying to hurt faye; and that she keeps her fists properly sighted in and calibrated, so the chance of killing her accidentally was minimal. but the fact remains that her answer to the question "How do I get this annoying person to leave me alone" was "Attempt to terrify them with threats of physical violence!".
this is not the behavior of a responsible & fully rational person.
Subtle' just doesn't work on Faye. Neither did directly saying it to her face. Even trying to walk away from the situation that was causing her so much distress was enough to get Faye to go away.
ok, subtle doesn't work. fine. how about telling their mutual employer "The new girl won't stop pestering me with personal questions, please tell her to mind her own business." or maybe just ignore any non-work related conversation attempts. or just don't show up at the party. hell, even if we're just talking about this particular incident; bubbles has a running speed of 30 kliks, she can easily remove herself from the situation without damaging innocent masonry.
because even if bubbles is fully in control of her actions, that doesn't change the fact that she's causing property damage and threatening to murder someone who isn't just not threatening her, but is completely incapable of threatening her. all that would mean is that she either couldn't see any of the other options available to her, or that she could see them, and chose that one as being preferable.
so imagine this: if i were a person who carried a handgun on a daily basis, and someone i didn't like wouldn't stop talking to me. and so i pull out my gun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_84kR7QWN4) and put a few rounds into the wall 10 inches from their head. should i be allowed to keep that gun?
help me out here; am i completely misunderstanding your point, or are you saying that it's ok to use threats of physical violence and cause property damage, if someone is sufficiently annoying?
Rules of fiction. Show, don't tell. Make it dynamic.
Remember when Pintsize was armed with military grade laser, caused wanton property damage, and Dora assaulted a federal agent?
Annoying is not the issue, psychological harm is the issue. Continuing to pressure someone who is under considerable psychological distress is more than just "annoying". Are threats of violence socially acceptable in most instances? No, but psychological harm is a real thing and a person in within their rights, in my opinion, to defend themselves from it, even when that harm is unintentional.
Also glancing at the poll, it's almost laughable to expect Bubbles to break down crying and spill the whole story to Faye because she calls her, her friend :PAfter Friday, it seems at least possible. Hardly ridiculous.
Remember when this strip was about people and interpersonal relationships instead of emo Blade Runner extras? That was awesome. If this week is any indication, it's now a 1:4 ratio, respectively.
Are you suggesting that Bubbles isn't a person?
Remember when this strip was about people and interpersonal relationships instead of emo Blade Runner extras? That was awesome. If this week is any indication, it's now a 1:4 ratio, respectively.
Are you suggesting that Bubbles isn't a person?
It's been well over 24 hours, and I still have no idea how to answer this.
a fully realised being with strengths, weaknesses, quirks and flaws just like any humanI would consider her all of those things, but does being all of those things make her a person?
a fully realised being with strengths, weaknesses, quirks and flaws just like any humanI would consider her all of those things, but does being all of those things make her a person?
if we have reason to believe that further loss of temper may cause them to act violently, then i'm pretty sure we do lock them up. whether or not they would 'normally' act that way is basically irrelevant.
secondly, 'all else' has not failed; the argument that because subtlety hasn't worked, 'extreme measures' are necessary is invalid, because it presupposes that there is nothing between "I'm leaving." and "BUBS SMASH!". there are multiple avenues of recourse that have yet been unexplored.
but lets break the situation down:
1) you have an AI housed in a weaponized combat-chasis, who is suffering from emotional instability & psychological illness.
2) said AI who can be driven into a wall-smashing rage by the combination of an annoying coworker and a brief, uncomfortable social situation.
3) said AI either could not recognize that she had multiple non-smashy options available to her (in which case, she was irrational due to her emotional instability, and thus unpredictable), or could do so and consciously chose to smash a wall as her most preferred option (in which case, she is fully responsible for her actions).
4) said AI claims to have been resistant to previous attempts at rehabilitative therapy.
my solution to this is that she be removed form the combat-chasis & moved into something less dangerous. her original to be held in custody pending successful rehabilitative therapy. ie: she can have it back, once she can be reasonably expected to use it responsibly.
what would your solution be?
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Well said.
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If Bubbles is like many carbon-based combat veterans she needs someone with the common experience and credibility of another veteran to reach her. The robot support group might be a total failure, for example.
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"Show me how you act, and I will tell you what you believe". If you were in the QC universe, would you treat Momo as an information appliance or as a person? If you treat her as a person then you've acknowledged her personhood even though it's obvious she's a different species from you.
I believe I understand your intent, but...So? I made no claim that she was, just that I'd treat her the same as I'd treat a human.
Taken literally, that, like many (mis)applications of the Golden Rule, might be a mistake.
She's not human.
I believe I understand your intent, but...
Taken literally, that, like many (mis)applications of the Golden Rule, might be a mistake.
She's not human.
What do the forum rules say I have to treat Momo as?
Including, e.g., fussing over her when she doesn't eat or sleep? Even though that's normal for her?I believe I understand your intent, but...So? I made no claim that she was, just that I'd treat her the same as I'd treat a human.
Taken literally, that, like many (mis)applications of the Golden Rule, might be a mistake.
She's not human.
I remember one of the Mods saying once that if sapient lobsters joined the forum, he expected them to be treated with decency and respect. (Not a lobster myself, but I applauded.)
Including, e.g., fussing over her when she doesn't eat or sleep? Even though that's normal for her?I believe I understand your intent, but...So? I made no claim that she was, just that I'd treat her the same as I'd treat a human.
Taken literally, that, like many (mis)applications of the Golden Rule, might be a mistake.
She's not human.
We're not very good at not projecting our own anthropocentric biases onto other forms of intelligence (fictional only, so far) (that we know of).
I submit that in some circumstances, treating a nonhuman intelligence as if it was human may be (pick one or more) unwise, discourteous, or downright dangerous, for one or both of you.
It is possible to be respectful of another intelligent being - indeed, it may actually be more so - without assuming that they are just like yourself.
In case I'm still not getting through:
Is there a type or style of food of which you're particularly fond? Do you automatically assume, until proven otherwise, that everyone you meet enjoys the same? Would you order it for them (and yourself) without asking first what they would prefer? Would you dismiss statements to the contrary - ie, "Come on, everyone likes _____, you just haven't had it prepared right."?
A (IMO dismayingly) large number of stories about artificial beings start with the unquestioned premise that our creations will admire us and seek to emulate us. I believe that this assumption - that of course our children, biological and otherwise, will want to be just like us - is the height of arrogance and chauvinism. Of course our own life choices, beliefs, etc, are the ones that any rational being would choose to adopt... of course we are the examples they would want to follow and make themselves into good little clones of...
(Ask a random sampling of parents, and/or their children, how well that worked out for them.)
I think at this point, I'd be much more interested in a non-crazy, non-evil, non-strawman version of TNG's Lore that said "**** you, Dad - I'm not going to try to 'become more human' to please and validate you, I'm gonna go off and live my own life, figure out who and what I want to be." Bonus points if what they ended up as didn't look or act anything like a human in makeup or rubber forehead.
Which to me entail acknowledging their differences, though as a distant second after acknowledging all we have in common.Which 100% applies to humans as well!
Welp! I guess Jeph can't write an introvert who is content to be an introvert, or keep a character nice and static.
I gave him way too much credit.