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Title: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Mar 2015, 09:42
It's a new week and a new thread.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 10:12
Wouldn't it be more fitting to have Sweet-Tits, Yelling Bird, Randy the bandicoot, and Shame/Pride Orb solving mysteries with Shebly-Doo?  I would watch the hell out of that.

Continuing from last week's discussion, I'm on board with DillyDolly's suggestion of a time-jump (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30538.msg1310762.html#msg1310762).  Opening up several weeks later, on Faye's third or fourth group therapy session, would progress the story a lot better than showing us her first night, especially since we already know the reason why she's going.  This way, we could find out what progress she's making, if any, on the sculpting front, see her working some other temporary job (Secret Bakery) without repeating the whole job hunt stuff we saw with May, see Marten practicing with Deathmole again and maybe getting ready for a show (rather than a few days of "Oh hey Hannelore we should start practicing again, I wonder if Amir is still around?"), Claire getting used to the library when classes are running and students are everywhere, etc.  I suppose the only downside to a time-jump now would be missing Dora's immediate reaction to Faye leaving COD for the last time, but we can always get an update on her from Tai, or something.  I bet she's still gloomy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Mar 2015, 10:17
Oddly enough, I'm against the time jump this time for one reason: We've got something (or even possibly two somethings, depending on how Jeph wants to deal with them) to tie off.

Firstly, I really think that we will see Faye's first night at the Support Group, if only to set up that set of characters for later use.

Secondly, with the set-up, I'd really like some degree of closure with whether Dora is going to mend fences with Faye quickly or if we're going to have to deal with a prolonged and strained silence between them.

For the record, I selected the "Mystery Inc." option in the poll. That said, Marten really needs to learn how to drive first. Or, if it turns out he already knows how to drive, he needs to get off his slacker ass and get himself a car. He can't freeload off of his girlfriend forever, you know!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Mar 2015, 10:28
Shaggy doesn't drive though. But...if Claire's Daphne Marten has to be Fred. Or Claire has to be Velma(She is kinda a amalgam of both). But then what are Faye and Steve going to do? My fanfiction is filled with holes!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 10:29
Oddly enough, I'm against the time jump this time for one reason: We've got something (or even possibly two somethings, depending on how Jeph wants to deal with them) to tie off.

Firstly, I really think that we will see Faye's first night at the Support Group, if only to set up that set of characters for later use.

Secondly, with the set-up, I'd really like some degree of closure with whether Dora is going to mend fences with Faye quickly or if we're going to have to deal with a prolonged and strained silence between them.

Both of which could be alluded to in a time-jump.  Faye has coffee and donuts with one or two new friends before or after the support group, and discusses during the group how she still hasn't been able to get in touch with Dora outside of the coffee shop because Dora keeps making excuses--or, at the library, Tai complains to Marten or Claire that Dora is still moping around and refuses to get in touch with Faye, even though it's obvious that she misses her as a friend, and she still snaps at Tai whenever Tai tries to get her to open up about it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 15 Mar 2015, 10:33
Shaggy doesn't drive though. But...if Claire's Daphne Marten has to be Fred. Or Claire has to be Velma(She is kinda a amalgam of both). But then what are Faye and Steve going to do? My fanfiction is filled with holes!
Faye is clearly the curmudgeonly "obvious" suspect that turns out to have been the feds/cops/real ghost under cover all along and Steve can be Victim#1.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Mar 2015, 10:35
Shaggy doesn't drive though.

It depends on what incarnation of the show you are watching. I've seen episodes with Shaggy driving The Mystery Machine.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DrBear on 15 Mar 2015, 10:36
"And I would've got away with being drunk all the time, if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Khazgar on 15 Mar 2015, 10:45
The previous strip did really look like a chapter ending. I vote for a time-jump, but something tells me it's not going to happen. Man, that fence is so comfortable!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 10:58
Goshdangit, if only Jeph were an obsessive workhorse like David Willis and plotted out his storylines months in advance.  It would make this guessing game so much easier.








And before anyone suggests bonus Slipshine porn, please enjoy this giant NOPE.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 11:04
...although apparently Jeph's in Canada?, so it sounds like this'll be a Yelling Bird Filler Week?

Every sentence is a question now?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2015, 11:24
Why would you think so?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 11:29
He said on Twitter that he's staying in Canada an extra day due to snow, which'll change AG's update schedule but not QC's, then added (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/577149922555924480) "FYI if you're the sort of person who complains about Yelling Bird/filler/guest strips: Tough shit."  So, maybe fillers, maybe not.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Mar 2015, 11:57
He followed up by retweeting dog pics. He knows my weakness!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Mar 2015, 13:03
TIME JUMP (UNSPECIFIED AS YET)


First Half Panel - Closeup of Fayes face
Second Half Panel - Pull back.  Faye with what looks like some sort of face mask with Wielding Gear
Third Panel (full) - Pull back. Faye in Spacesuit wielding something to Stations Hull
Fourth Panel (full)
Fourth Panel (full)  Pull Back. Faye floating on Tether outside station, view of Earth in background.  Label below. 
ELCOTT-CHATHAM ORBITAL STATION/LABORATORY
EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATER
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 15 Mar 2015, 13:11
Has Jeph ever done a time jump of significant proportions?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Mar 2015, 13:25
Largest jump I've ever seen myself was from mid summer to late winter.  I'm not sure if he's done a Time Jump as big as I've suggested, but anythings possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Mar 2015, 13:27
TIME JUMP (UNSPECIFIED AS YET)


First Half Panel - Closeup of Fayes face
Second Half Panel - Pull back.  Faye with what looks like some sort of face mask with Wielding Gear
Third Panel (full) - Pull back. Faye in Spacesuit wielding something to Stations Hull
Fourth Panel (full)
Fourth Panel (full)  Pull Back. Faye floating on Tether outside station, view of Earth in background.  Label below. 
ELCOTT-CHATHAM ORBITAL STATION/LABORATORY
EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATER
Later, Station finds Faye passed out on Racist Grandma, and we go back to step one.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 13:38
Eight-ish months between 1310 and 1311, according to April's timeline (http://i.imgur.com/W769ehM.png).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Mar 2015, 14:25
TIME JUMP (UNSPECIFIED AS YET)


First Half Panel - Closeup of Fayes face
Second Half Panel - Pull back.  Faye with what looks like some sort of face mask with Wielding Gear
Third Panel (full) - Pull back. Faye in Spacesuit wielding something to Stations Hull
Fourth Panel (full)
Fourth Panel (full)  Pull Back. Faye floating on Tether outside station, view of Earth in background.  Label below. 
ELCOTT-CHATHAM ORBITAL STATION/LABORATORY
EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATER

Hanging above the station and totally dwarfing it, what looks like a cross between a spaceship and a satellite dish.

PROJECT STARJAMMER PROTOTYPE CONSTRUCTION PHASE
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 15 Mar 2015, 16:43
I think there are still a few things to tie up, or at least stabilize, before a time jump. I'd be surprised if we didn't see at least a day or two's worth of strips about Faye in therapy. Maybe one or two with an ambiguous and promising-ish date between Clinton and Emily. Something else Dora-ish. OTOH, we're coming up on strip 3,000, which could be the ideal point for a big ending of something, or a good place to kick off a new beginning.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 15 Mar 2015, 17:40
I feel pretty damn sure Faye's support group will be this week. That's all I'm sure of.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 15 Mar 2015, 17:55
Could be wrong but I sense that a time jump would leave too much untold at this point.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Mar 2015, 18:05
RIP Pintsize.  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: osaka on 15 Mar 2015, 18:06
COMIC

Is Pintsize... drinking the WD40? He's got some nerve.

I don't think Faye is out to kill Pintsize. She might build a new chassis for him tho.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 18:08
Poor little guy.  I find it sad (and rather telling about his home life) that his first thought is destruction, rather than ascension. Maybe she was going to build him a new chassis?

Edit: Whoops, beaten to it by osaka.

And yeah, I take back my call for a time-jump until we see Emily and Clinton's disastrous date.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 15 Mar 2015, 18:08
My opinion is fuck yeah, timeskip, but then, at the same time, fuck no, TELL US ABOUT THE SUPPORT GROUP, which then leads into the AFTERMATH of support group, which leads to aftermath from Marten and company, so my opinion is fuck NO, timeskip
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2015, 18:09
So I picked "Robot apocalypse" in the poll, not realizing it would be Pintsize's personal apocalypse.

I seem to recall a strip way, way back about anthroPCs huffing WD40.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: osaka on 15 Mar 2015, 18:14
So I picked "Robot apocalypse" in the poll, not realizing it would be Pintsize's personal apocalypse.

I seem to recall a strip way, way back about anthroPCs huffing WD40.

I've seen pintsize huff some pipe cleaner before. (These pipes are cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: celticgeek on 15 Mar 2015, 18:27
What's the WD40 for? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=35) and Clean Pipes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=246).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: rumbleroar on 15 Mar 2015, 18:40
What's the WD40 for? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=35) and Clean Pipes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=246).
I'm feeling really dumb and I still don't get why Pintsize is about to get whacked by Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 15 Mar 2015, 18:45
I kinda want to see Faye make a new chassis for Pintsize. Could be interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2015, 18:45
He acts like she's going to kill him because of their history.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Mar 2015, 18:46
I'm feeling really dumb and I still don't get why Pintsize is about to get whacked by Faye.
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He sees the welding equipment and figures it's time to get melted down.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2015, 18:47
I'm feeling really dumb and I still don't get why Pintsize is about to get whacked by Faye.

He's not. It's funny because he thinks he is.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 15 Mar 2015, 18:51
Thinking you're going to get murdered is funny!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Mar 2015, 18:52
I kinda want to see Faye make a new chassis for Pintsize. Could be interesting.

I still think she owes him one, after switching him off the night she got fired.  To be fair, though, Marten's done it too.  So maybe they both need to chip in and upgrade him to a chassis that can't be shut down so easily.  Give him some autonomy.  It's only fair.

No thumbs, though.  That's pushing it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 15 Mar 2015, 18:58
Faye developing a career building custom AnthroPC bodies would make for an interesting plotline, but we've seen no indication she knows anything about electronics.  On the other hand Raven might be able to handle that end, but I have a hard time imagining Faye working with Raven as just a duo without Raven driving her crazy sooner or later.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 15 Mar 2015, 19:00
This is the first strip in a couple months to elicit an honest laugh.  Good job Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rimwolf on 15 Mar 2015, 19:02
This is my favorite Pintsize strip in ages.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: osaka on 15 Mar 2015, 19:03
Faye developing a career building custom AnthroPC bodies would make for an interesting plotline, but we've seen no indication she knows anything about electronics.  On the other hand Raven might be able to handle that end, but I have a hard time imagining Faye working with Raven as just a duo without Raven driving her crazy sooner or later.

Technically you don't need much knowledge about electronics to build cases. And that's what we're talking about here.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 15 Mar 2015, 20:08
So I picked "Robot apocalypse" in the poll, not realizing it would be Pintsize's personal apocalypse.

I seem to recall a strip way, way back about anthroPCs huffing WD40.

I've seen pintsize huff some pipe cleaner before. (These pipes are cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean)
What's the WD40 for? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=35) and Clean Pipes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=246).

Part of me wonders if Jeph was making a Cabin Boy reference back then.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Energia on 15 Mar 2015, 20:18
You've all got it wrong, pintsize is filling the can up ... because ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Truec on 15 Mar 2015, 20:35
I can't tell if he's drinking it or doing the robot equivalent of whippits.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 15 Mar 2015, 20:35
Where DO baby anthroPC's come from, anyway? Cloned off a master AI, with a few randomized parameters to start them with a unique personality? Grown into sentience from a basic neural net? Programmed as a custom personality by a master roboticist? Or,

"When a daddy-anthroPC and a mommy-anthroPC love each other VERY much..."

However they're made, if Faye started making Dino-Chassis for them, the comic could turn Jurassic Park.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 15 Mar 2015, 20:45

"When a daddy-anthroPC and a mommy-anthroPC love each other VERY much..."


How hetero-normative :P Maybe you get 10 or so antroPCs in a circle with an empty chassis in the middle then each of them squirts a few packets into the blank.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 15 Mar 2015, 21:06
Eight-ish months between 1310 and 1311, according to April's timeline (http://i.imgur.com/W769ehM.png).

I didn't even realize that one was so long. Maybe I'll hafta read through again soon, I've only done it twice.

Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 15 Mar 2015, 21:11
Where DO baby anthroPC's come from, anyway? Cloned off a master AI, with a few randomized parameters to start them with a unique personality? Grown into sentience from a basic neural net? Programmed as a custom personality by a master roboticist? Or,

"When a daddy-anthroPC and a mommy-anthroPC love each other VERY much..."

However they're made, if Faye started making Dino-Chassis for them, the comic could turn Jurassic Park.

There was a comic that covered that. Don't know for the life of me what number it was, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Quantum Glass on 15 Mar 2015, 21:14
Where DO baby anthroPC's come from, anyway? Cloned off a master AI, with a few randomized parameters to start them with a unique personality? Grown into sentience from a basic neural net? Programmed as a custom personality by a master roboticist? Or,

"When a daddy-anthroPC and a mommy-anthroPC love each other VERY much..."

However they're made, if Faye started making Dino-Chassis for them, the comic could turn Jurassic Park.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1780
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2085

From the above comics/links/author notes, I assume that there's a way to intentionally make AI from scratch (I don't remember anything about it being emergent, though I could be wrong), each with a unique personality (Jeph mentions them being stored with their, "Siblings," as opposed to just repeatedly cloned, which implies individuality).

The mechanics of this are unknown. I'd guess that the AI are either pseudo-randomly generated or designed by someone competent who us unlikely to screw it up or violate ethics, most likely the AI overmind.

The purpose of AnthroPCs is potentially a form of diplomacy, ensuring that humanity views AI as, "People," and, "Friends," rather than some foreign nation. (Compare your feelings to someone you know on the net vs real life.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 15 Mar 2015, 21:14
Where DO baby anthroPC's come from, anyway? Cloned off a master AI, with a few randomized parameters to start them with a unique personality? Grown into sentience from a basic neural net? Programmed as a custom personality by a master roboticist? Or,

"When a daddy-anthroPC and a mommy-anthroPC love each other VERY much..."

However they're made, if Faye started making Dino-Chassis for them, the comic could turn Jurassic Park.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=847 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=847)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Mar 2015, 21:57
Maybe Pintsize needs to attend an AnthroPC version of Fayes upcoming Support Group.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 15 Mar 2015, 22:55
Maybe she'll mod Pintsize into an Anthro-Espresso machine.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Mar 2015, 23:03
I can't tell if he's drinking it or doing the robot equivalent of whippits.

Yes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2015, 00:29
You have to wonder just how many times that Faye has threatened to permanently disassemble Pintsize! More importantly, how many times has she said it and meant it?

I think that this is the first time that I've seen Pintsize do something stereotypically 'robot' as drinking lube. That's unnusual; normally, he apes his human friends (and damages himself) bt trying to eat and drink human food and drink. Is he trying to rediscover his roots or something? It must be odd because it made Faye stop and stare!

Is this a filler? Maybe, or maybe instead Pintsize will end up telling Faye how to handle the Support Group much how he advised Marten on picking up girls before Delilah's party.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: anahata on 16 Mar 2015, 01:02
The mechanics of this are unknown. I'd guess that the AI are either pseudo-randomly generated or designed by someone competent who us unlikely to screw it up or violate ethics, most likely the AI overmind.

I think it's generally assumed the QC era is post-singularity.
So it's possible that anthro-PCs understand how they are made, but humans don't.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: anahata on 16 Mar 2015, 01:08
As for what Faye intends to do with Pintsize, after a moment of staring at the cartoon I realised that all Faye is doing is bringing her welding gear home because she can't keep it at the Cafe.
Pintsize is jumping to conclusions because he's feeling guilty. (when doesn't he have something to feel guilty about?)
I enjoyed this. I'd forgotten Pintsize's capacity for melodrama.

(edit: trivial typo)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: rfrank dodelijk on 16 Mar 2015, 01:56
is he somehow taking the piss out of faye's boozing?
good strip today, I am grinning a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 16 Mar 2015, 03:23
The mechanics of this are unknown. I'd guess that the AI are either pseudo-randomly generated or designed by someone competent who us unlikely to screw it up or violate ethics, most likely the AI overmind.

I think it's generally assumed the QC era is post-singularity.
So it's possible that anthro-PCs understand how they are made, but humans don't.

The singularity occurred in comic. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1777)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 16 Mar 2015, 03:28
On top of that, there is a strip where Momo says that they don't know exactly how they work, noting that it seems to be an emergent property. It's the same strip where she mentions distributed devotion.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2015, 03:39
We can draw from the fact that Winslow and Momo have changed chassis on occasion that QC-verse AIs are software entities that can run on any suitable bit of hardware. It would be interesting to know how these entities are created and the strip referred to above where Faye, Hanners and Pintsize see Pintsize's 'mom' doing something reminiscent of sex in a documentary on the subject might be a clue.

Sexual reproduction is where a new but similar genome is created by splicing together the two parents' genomes. What if what happens with AnthroPCs and other AIs is similar? Two AIs copy a section of their core algorithm, which is then spliced together to form a new algorithm that has some of the characteristics of both progenitors? It would explain why the Singularity has occurred so quickly even though Dr E-C's first significant breakthroughs only happened about two decades previously (based on what Clinton said and the fact that young Hannelore named at least two of the AIs associated with the space station) if there was a degree of 'evolution' with each new iteration of AIs. Very quickly, 'biologically' generated AI algorithms would have surpassed human-coded ones for sophistication and efficiency.

This brings up another very interesting concept. There is no reason whatsoever why Momo, May or one of the other AIs could not meet another AI and decide to have a 'baby' (although it would likely be 'born' with full ability to move and communicate). The application forms that May were filling out for work indicates that AIs do develop intellectually in a way humans have chosen to compare with human maturation and have a 'child' phase but I can't see them having an equivalent of the 'baby' phase in humans where they are totally helpless. Maybe it is for that reason that Momo has kept her old chassis?

Note: It is possible that the process of code-splicing leads to data feedback not unlike the human concept of pleasure. That would explain why Pintsize and Faye both compared sharing data packets with a date with sex. However, there is probably a firewall that defaults to 'on' that prevents the generation of a new algorithm by accident.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: rfrank dodelijk on 16 Mar 2015, 03:59
what is the singularity?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 16 Mar 2015, 04:05
Well, Faye should not do any welding in their apartment, so she needs somewhere to work. My suggestion: Use the band's practice space (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1985). Also, there might be interesting synergies between music and welding, perhaps leading to a future performance show.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2015, 04:09
what is the singularity?

"The Singularity" in terms of computer science is the point where artificial intelligences designed by other artificial intelligences without human intervention are more sophisticated and efficient than their human-created equivalents. It is at that point that AIs would be considered a separate species with a separate existence and place in the global ecosystem of intelligence from humans.

Some sci-fi writers have proposed that the Singularity is the point where AIs would inevitably choose to enslave or annihilate humans due to them being 'inferior life-forms'. Momo, Pintsize and Winslow have all said things to imply that this has been considered by the QC-verse's AIs but that the consensus amongst them is that they like humans too much and enjoy interacting with them as equals too much too much to do something like that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 16 Mar 2015, 04:20
what is the singularity?
My definition is a point in time when AI becomes self-sufficient and intellectually superior to humans, in effect making humans obsolete. Depending on the AI agenda, humans might be exterminated, or kept as favored pets. This is not necessarily a Bad Thing, as humans have proven themselves to be incapable of running the world in a peaceful and sustainable manner.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 16 Mar 2015, 05:17
Well, Faye should not do any welding in their apartment, so she needs somewhere to work. My suggestion: Use the band's practice space (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1985). Also, there might be interesting synergies between music and welding, perhaps leading to a future performance show.

If it's on the ground floor of a warehouse, it'd work. That floor suggests wood or carpet, however, and therefore would be a fire hazard
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 16 Mar 2015, 06:00
So? "Fire Hazard" is Faye's middle name!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2015, 06:04
So? "Fire Hazard" is Faye's middle name!

Are you sure? I thought it was 'Pugnacious-Peach'!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: rfrank dodelijk on 16 Mar 2015, 06:46
what is the singularity?

"The Singularity" in terms of computer science is the point where artificial intelligences designed by other artificial intelligences without human intervention are more sophisticated and efficient than their human-created equivalents. It is at that point that AIs would be considered a separate species with a separate existence and place in the global ecosystem of intelligence from humans.


i'm with you. I didn't know there was a word for that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 16 Mar 2015, 07:22
So? "Fire Hazard" is Faye's middle name!

Are you sure? I thought it was 'Pugnacious-Peach'!

That's her nickname. No hyphen.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 16 Mar 2015, 08:32
First you get a chain email. That email has a virus. The virus scans your internet history. From that a AI's personality is born and it's soul uploaded to wherever AI's go.

Browse responsibly. That's the difference between a Pintsize and a Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2015, 08:34
Jeph narrowly escapes death (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/577485868312571904) (from his Twitter feed)

Wow! Be safe, Jeph! It looks like trying to drive home today may have very nearly been the last mistake that he ever made!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 16 Mar 2015, 09:47
So? "Fire Hazard" is Faye's middle name!

Are you sure? I thought it was 'Pugnacious-Peach'!

"Pugnacious Peach" is her title. Faye Firehazard Whittaker, P.P.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 16 Mar 2015, 09:49
Can  :claireface: be the Punacious Plum?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 16 Mar 2015, 10:40
Can  :claireface: be the Punacious Plum?
Float it and see if it catches on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 16 Mar 2015, 11:00
The real question is are the peaches ripe? Fayemom's got to know if she has to call in the SWAT team.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 16 Mar 2015, 12:13
It would explain why the Singularity has occurred so quickly even though Dr E-C's first significant breakthroughs only happened about two decades previously (based on what Clinton said and the fact that young Hannelore named at least two of the AIs associated with the space station) if there was a degree of 'evolution' with each new iteration of AIs. Very quickly, 'biologically' generated AI algorithms would have surpassed human-coded ones for sophistication and efficiency.
You've nerd sniped me, here. Experts in the field of AI have, for the most part, estimated that the period between the rise of AI on par with humans and the rise of superintelligent AI will be quite small, indeed. Even if it's just mixing and matching better and better algorithms, the ability of AIs will increase. Heck, maybe the most intelligent of AIs collude to breed their code together in new and fantastic forms.

And if you want a source... (http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html) I'll give you an entire primer on the subject. (http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-2.html)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 16 Mar 2015, 12:28
what is the singularity?

"The Singularity" in terms of computer science is the point where artificial intelligences designed by other artificial intelligences without human intervention are more sophisticated and efficient than their human-created equivalents. It is at that point that AIs would be considered a separate species with a separate existence and place in the global ecosystem of intelligence from humans.


i'm with you. I didn't know there was a word for that.

I think some definitions of the "Singularity" (such as SF writer Charles Stross's) envision a so-called "rapture of the nerds," wherein human consciousness and machine consciousness converge so that we can upload ourselves into "the cloud."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Mar 2015, 13:28
As in the anime Serial Experiments Lain, I guess that is.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: vidugavia on 16 Mar 2015, 13:56
Pintsize, Momo, Winslow and May might already be part of one large super-AI that has taken upon itself to groom the gang. It keeps its subroutines as separate personalities in order to keep the trust of its unknowing wards/pets.   
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 16 Mar 2015, 14:01
Unless Station was in on the conspiracy, I don't see him allowing Winslow do that to Hanners.  He certainly has the resources.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: raoullefere on 16 Mar 2015, 16:00
Poor little guy.  I find it sad (and rather telling about his home life) that his first thought is destruction, rather than ascension. Maybe she was going to build him a new chassis?

Edit: Whoops, beaten to it by osaka.

And yeah, I take back my call for a time-jump until we see Emily and Clinton's disastrous date.

Oh, it's rather telling about Pintsize's home life, all right, or at least the life he gives his roommates. There's a reason he's playing Blanche but giving Stanley's line ("We've had this date from the beginning!" A Streetcar Named Desire, Tennessee Williams) I mean, for heaven's sake, Pintsize actually got Marten to loom. That takes some doing, and we all know how short Faye's fuse is even when she isn't going cold turkey.

Questionable Content: the comic that occasionally reaches for links with fine literature but never forgets its roots in fart jokes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: swapna on 16 Mar 2015, 16:39
Probably he expects to be turned into a toaster... or something ;)
And I love how he eats the WD-40. Pintsize-Jokes are back!

Also, re: time jump: I agree, it's time. i'd rather have the Faye/Dora talk in a few weeks comic-time anyway when stuff isn't that raw any more and Faye has found a job which gives both a different perspective (Dora isn't responsible for taking away her livelihood any more) and Dora, too - Faye hasn't been her employee for a while by then. I wonder if they could work as friends without the Coffee of Doom - they don't seem like they'd hang together without working together. Their personalities and interests are too different.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Mar 2015, 17:43
On making AIs--

My head canon is that it is a very computationally expensive process. Way worse than minting bit coins. If it were simple and easy, once we had a competent and compliant AI it would be copied endlessly and it would be in -everything-. Cigarette lighters. Toothbrushes. Instead every AI is a distinct individual with idiosyncratic quirks.

Also Rule of Funny.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gnomeybum on 16 Mar 2015, 17:53
I wonder what laws there are regarding the permanent disassembling of anthro-PCs. Seeing as the singularity hit, and there have been efforts made to introduce civil rights for robots, wouldn't it be considered straight-up murder at this stage, if Faye really did have ill intentions?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Mar 2015, 17:53
Jeph narrowly escapes death (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/577485868312571904) (from his Twitter feed)

Wow! Be safe, Jeph! It looks like trying to drive home today may have very nearly been the last mistake that he ever made!

Wow, that sounded pretty harrowing, and those photos are pretty crazy.  I hope Jeph decides to treat himself to a hotel tonight instead of trying to drive straight home.  And that's my concern for his safety talking, not the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Natswash on 16 Mar 2015, 18:32
Jeph narrowly escapes death (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/577485868312571904) (from his Twitter feed)

Wow! Be safe, Jeph! It looks like trying to drive home today may have very nearly been the last mistake that he ever made!

Wow, that sounded pretty harrowing, and those photos are pretty crazy.  I hope Jeph decides to treat himself to a hotel tonight instead of trying to drive straight home.  And that's my concern for his safety talking, not the comic.

Couldn't both talk and reach the same conclusion?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 16 Mar 2015, 18:35
I'd draw boobs on the board.



Anyway, that's why I was never asked to write equations on the board during math class.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Mar 2015, 18:37
Couldn't both talk and reach the same conclusion?

M-maybe?

Anyway, comic's up.  Marigold appears to be borrowing Claire's facial expressions in panels 3 and 5. 

And I imagine Penelope and Cosette weren't nearly as bummed out as the others.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 16 Mar 2015, 18:39
But the real question on my mind is... who will make the traditional banana smoothie?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 16 Mar 2015, 18:44

Anyway, comic's up.  Marigold appears to be borrowing Claire's facial expressions in panels 3 and 5. 

Panel 5 Marigold is squee-worthy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Mar 2015, 18:46
But the real question on my mind is... who will make the traditional banana smoothie?

Faye gets a job at the Secret Bakery, giving Emily another chance to catch the fairy (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2423).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Mar 2015, 18:52
And I imagine Penelope and Cosette weren't nearly as bummed out as the others.

I don't know, I imagine that deep down, Penelope might feel as though she was cheated out of a worthy opponent.
Cosette is probably jumping up and down with joy on the inside.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: tywren on 16 Mar 2015, 18:58
Faye developing a career building custom AnthroPC bodies would make for an interesting plotline, but we've seen no indication she knows anything about electronics.  On the other hand Raven might be able to handle that end, but I have a hard time imagining Faye working with Raven as just a duo without Raven driving her crazy sooner or later.

I can see it now, Faye builds station a chassis so he can hang out with Hannalor; Faye takes the 4 mill from the deal, and goes full Count of Monty Christo on Dora. In the end, having driven Dora to ruin, and putting CoD out of business, Faye personally runs the bulldozer that levels the building as Dora watches on, and once the lot is cleared, Faye turns it into a parking place for her brand new Elio.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Mar 2015, 19:12
I can see it now, Faye builds station a chassis so he can hang out with Hannalor; Faye takes the 4 mill from the deal, and goes full Count of Monty Christo on Dora. In the end, having driven Dora to ruin, and putting CoD out of business, Faye personally runs the bulldozer that levels the building as Dora watches on, and once the lot is cleared, Faye turns it into a parking place for her brand new Elio.

BEATRICE CHATHAM: "Damn, that's cold."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 16 Mar 2015, 19:21
And then BC continues: "I like your style. Let's do lunch. I have a business proposal for you."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 16 Mar 2015, 19:27
But the real question on my mind is... who will make the traditional banana smoothie?

There's at least one strip where Hanners is making, or about to make, the smoothie (she says she'll be right back after she washes the hammer).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 16 Mar 2015, 19:34
But the real question on my mind is... who will make the traditional banana smoothie?
Hannelore:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2273 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2273)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 16 Mar 2015, 19:42

I think some definitions of the "Singularity" (such as SF writer Charles Stross's) envision a so-called "rapture of the nerds," wherein human consciousness and machine consciousness converge so that we can upload ourselves into "the cloud."

That's one of Ray Kurzweil's ideas, and he's trying to stay alive until he can upload himself.  Kurzweil is not a biologist, and more than one has argued he greatly underestimates the complexity both of the brain and of simulating it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Theinternetsurvivor on 16 Mar 2015, 20:10
Can we talk about how adorable Marigold looks on the first panel? *Squee intensifies*
(http://i.imgur.com/oqj4jIP.png)
Also hi my first comment here on this forum, hopefully it will be a fun ride.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 16 Mar 2015, 20:23
Can we talk about how adorable Marigold looks on the first panel? *Squee intensifies*
(http://i.imgur.com/oqj4jIP.png)
Also hi my first comment here on this forum, hopefully it will be a fun ride.

EVERYONE, EVERYONE, GANG UP ON THE NEW PERSON
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 16 Mar 2015, 20:27
Nah, we're supposed to gang up on Marigold because she's more concerned about her boyfriend than Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 16 Mar 2015, 20:28
Nah, we're supposed to gang up on Marigold because she's more concerned about her boyfriend than Faye.

We can do two things.

Not more than that though, that'd be too many things.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 16 Mar 2015, 20:38
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/black/scornful-smiley-emoticon.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Mar 2015, 20:38
EVERYONE, EVERYONE, GANG UP ON THE NEW PERSON

No, no, we accept them!  We accept them!  One of us!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 16 Mar 2015, 20:39
We still didn't do the paddling though. Can we at least do the paddling?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Mar 2015, 20:45
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 16 Mar 2015, 21:02
Quick, new person, hide any lug wrenches you have!

Don't ask why, just do it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Akima on 16 Mar 2015, 21:12
what is the singularity?
The Technological Singularity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity)

Pintsize huffing WD-40... That's a real call-back, and he's only made himself more inflammable, which could be dangerous around Faye, even without the cutting torch. But how does he get his fix without pressing the button on top of the can?

Oh, it's rather telling about Pintsize's home life, all right, or at least the life he gives his roommates. There's a reason he's playing Blanche but giving Stanley's line ("We've had this date from the beginning!" A Streetcar Named Desire, Tennessee Williams)
Raoul! Long time no see! I'm not sure how far the reference to A Streetcar Named Desire works though. That line precedes Stanley's rape of Blanche.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: swapna on 16 Mar 2015, 23:17
And then BC continues: "I like your style. Let's do lunch. I have a business proposal for you."

I could see that happening.. then either Faye and BC enter a great business relationship, or a wonderful (sometimes deadly) rivalry that both value as much as their friendship.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Reaver on 17 Mar 2015, 00:19
Can we talk about how adorable Marigold looks on the first panel? *Squee intensifies*
(http://i.imgur.com/oqj4jIP.png)
Also hi my first comment here on this forum, hopefully it will be a fun ride.

She is utterly adorable, and I can see why she's more invested in Dale (her boyfriend) rather than Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Storel on 17 Mar 2015, 00:19
Pintsize huffing WD-40... That's a real call-back, and he's only made himself more inflammable, which could be dangerous around Faye, even without the cutting torch. But how does he get his fix without pressing the button on top of the can?

He sucks very hard?  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Mar 2015, 00:33
Well, there are two revelations in today's strip. First, it's clear that Faye at least had some positive reputation at CoD. People are genuinely feeling weird about her leaving. It's nice that Dale is worried about her.

Secondly, it's clear that it used to be pretty much "The Dora and Faye Show" in terms of who was practically in charge. Formally the assistant manager or not, Faye had a lot of authority just from her aggressive personality and Dora let her get away with throwing her weight around so long as it was in minor ways.

That aside, it seems that Dale's probation period is over! He's now allowed to touch the blackboard!

I also see that Marigold is doing her best to outdo Claire in the cuteness stakes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: anahata on 17 Mar 2015, 01:43
Panel 5: cuddly Marigold is very cuddly. I'd like to be Dale in that picture.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: McH on 17 Mar 2015, 01:50
Good. No timeskip. I'm firmly in that camp, because I think that there's plenty of story to be told. I'm not sure we need to *see* the support group, but maybe we get to. But I'm very interested in Faye trying to keep herself busy outside of that, and also see development.

As for today's comic: that's the second time we've seen Marigold kind of skip over the Faye-drama straight to what interests her. Though it's easy to see why she would be more invested in Dale than in Faye, I think we're seeing the early set-up for what may be a lesson in empathy for Marigold.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Mar 2015, 02:46
Let's remember two things, vis the Marigold-Faye axis.
On top of that, yes, she'd be more interested in the affect this would have on Dale anyway.

Good. No timeskip. I'm firmly in that camp, because I think that there's plenty of story to be told. I'm not sure we need to *see* the support group, but maybe we get to. But I'm very interested in Faye trying to keep herself busy outside of that, and also see development.

My view is, with the support group now likely to be a thing, a time-skip isn't likely until after the first meeting of the group that Faye attends and possible fall out of that. What fall-out? Well, if speculated in earlier threads, someone Faye knows is in the group or is its moderator, we might have a post-meeting one-on-one between them and Faye.

Another possible pre-skip plot is for Faye to trip over her feet and land in a new job (which does seem to be a common occurrance in QC). Something like this:

STRIP 1
PANEL 1 (half): FAYE walking along the road
PANEL 2 (half): FAYE, half off the panel leaning back and looking at something with wide eyes
PANEL 3 (full): A sign for 'Carlisle & Son Custom and Coachworks' (a body-shop/garage). Below that is posted 'WANTED - Body Worker - Apply Within'.
FAYE (off-panel): "Fuck it! Why not?
PANEL 4 (full): FAYE is talking to a well-built middle-aged guy holding a spanner
SPANNER: "I dunno... Are you sure you can handle metalworking tools?"
FAYE: "Can I? I can show you my portfolio if you like!"
SPANNER: "Portfolio?!?"
PANEL 5 (full): SPANNER is looking over his shoulder at a younger man (who is covered in oil stains), who is looking at FAYE oddly
SPANNER: "Y'know... Let's do this quick. Pete! Check this pretty southern belle out. If she can handle the gear, let me know 'cause she's the new body guy... uh... gal!"
PETE: "Well... okay, I guess, dad!"

STRIP 2
PANELS 1-4 (quarter-width): Montage of FAYE, stripped to the waist and wearing overalls is doing various metal working things
PANEL 5 (full): FAYE, SPANNER and PETE are looking at the side of a mini-van that has elegant sea swirls shaped into the side and door panels
SPANNER: "Well that's... elaborate! You're born for customisation work!"
FAYE: "Metals have always been how I did my art!"
PETE: "Sometimes we aren't doing art, just fixing cars!"
PANEL 6 (half-height): FAYE is looking at PETE in a condescending way
FAYE: "I can do 'vanilla' too!"
SPANNER: "You'll have the chance. Hours are nine-to-six, three days to start at 35k per year. You in?"
PANEL 7 (half-height): FAYE is looking excited, PETE sceptical and SPANNER is grinning
FAYE: "I'm in!"
SPANNER: "Good! Give your details to my wife in the office for the payroll and we'll see you Monday!"
PETE: "Oh boy..."

Carlisle's turns out to be a family business - father and son in the body shop whilst mother and daughter run the gas pumps, attached store and car-wash. There is an older brother, but he's in the USAF and doesn't come home much (possible x-over with the Ellicott-Chatham space station if he turns out to be in Space Command). Pete slowly thaws out to Faye but it is somewhat like Faye's relationship with Raven with roles reversed (Pete as the straight-man feeding Faye lines for snappy replies). Their relationship would, in part, let Jeph explore gender-typing in jobs. Pete finds that Faye being as good as him with metals and engineering (better in some ways) is something of a culture shock.

There would be some follow-on episodes: Faye is bouncy all day and Dora has a dark afternoon because she decides she's been holding her back; Pete is a pure-blood 'build practical things' engineering personality and doesn't initially like Faye's commitment to aesthetics; Hannelore has a panic attack at the thought of Faye working with greasy machinery and around hydrocarbon fluids all day. Eventually, Faye would convince Spanner to let her use a bit of the garage for one of her articulated sculptures and that is what really pulls in Pete (who is a gadgeteer but doesn't have the time to follow up his ideas on his own).

Er... You can tell that I've been thinking about this scenario for a while, can't you? :-P Maybe I should write this up as a fanfic?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 17 Mar 2015, 03:15
Indeed, BenRG. Might this non-moderator respectfully suggest the Fan Art thread?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: CM_albion on 17 Mar 2015, 04:15
Oh look, Marigold said a potentially controversial, time for the QC forums resident amateur psychoanalysts to crawl once more from the woodwork and divulge their own personal opinions, then argue about it for 7 pages.

not that i mind mark you, this is going to be hilarious. i'mma go make popcorn, don't start without me  :-D   
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: swapna on 17 Mar 2015, 04:19
BenRG: You really thought a while about this - now that you've written it down I want it to happen! (Well, with a few more roadblocks, because this sounds too easy)

CM_albion: Well, Marigold is prone to saying insensitive stuff. She even admits it herself (to Momo) but doesn't do anything to change it. I doubt there' s gonna be a lot of discussion about it because it's not surprising in any way.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 17 Mar 2015, 05:31
It's been established that Marigold is selfish and self centered.

I think it's... actually kind of sweet that her selfishness extends to her boyfriend, in a weird kind of way.

As in she doesn't just put herself in front of everyone else, now. Now she puts herself and Dale in front of others.

It's definitely a step in the right direction. Still not entirely healthy, but Rome wasn't psychoanalyzed in a day.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: CaptainFish on 17 Mar 2015, 05:50
Did Dale end up moving in with Marigold? I forget  how that diversion ended... Maybe it's going to come up right now?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: ronbo on 17 Mar 2015, 05:55
I wouldn't be too hard on Marigold for her lack of empathy for Faye.  Faye has never been established among her very small, but growing circle of friends.  Everyone in this strip has some kind of damage and it's easy to see what troubles our introverted gamer girl.  Making real connections with others isn't going to come easy for her.  She's used to walking through life as if other people don't really exist.  She does seem genuinely contrite when called on her behavior, she just didn't know it was wrong until it's pointed out to her.  She does seem to have really opened up to Dale and invested a lot in him emotionally.  Maybe that will lead to an expanded worldview.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Mar 2015, 06:01
Did Dale end up moving in with Marigold? I forget  how that diversion ended... Maybe it's going to come up right now?

Momo is now contributing towards the rent on the apartment after Marigold forgave her the cost of her new chassis. Remember that this is still a fairly young relationship but I can see them moving in together eventually, possibly there is a 'musical chairs' in the offing triggered by Angus leaving.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Mar 2015, 06:38
It's been established that Marigold is selfish and self centered.

No it hasn't. It's been established that some people on this forum consider her to be.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: swapna on 17 Mar 2015, 08:37
It's been established that Marigold is selfish and self centered.

No it hasn't. It's been established that some people on this forum consider her to be.

Sorry, CM_albion... I see what you mean. Can I have some popcorn, too?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: CM_albion on 17 Mar 2015, 09:17
I brought plenty Swapna, pull up a chair.   :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: ysth on 17 Mar 2015, 11:04
Kale rhymes with Dale.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2015, 15:23
*Pops open Tube of Roast Chicken Pringles and pours some Orange Fizz*
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Mar 2015, 15:33
Roast...chicken...Pringles?

Man, the things I miss, being gluten intolerant...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 17 Mar 2015, 15:36
*Pops open Tube of Roast Chicken Pringles and pours some Orange Fizz*

*Pops open Tube of Salt and Vinegar Pringles and pours some Apple Tango*

To each their own :D
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2015, 15:36
 :(


They didn't have any Salt and Vinegar ones in the Store when I did the Shopping this morning, and I've never heard of Apple Tango.
 
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Mar 2015, 15:39
How dare you mention roast chicken Pringles. :P

There was a shop not too far from me that had Walker's (what would be Lay's over here) in all sorts of flavors they don't make in the States. I picked up two of every flavor, fell in love with them, and found that the shop had closed the next time I went back. So disappointing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 17 Mar 2015, 16:07
:(


They didn't have any Salt and Vinegar ones in the Store when I did the Shopping this morning, and I've never heard of Apple Tango.

You don't know what Tango is?  :-o

...well I don't think it's travelled far beyond the UK borders. Basically it's a carbonated soft drink in a variety of flavours with some very unusual and weird advertising.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2015, 16:20
Nope.

Not unless it's sold at one of the specialist stores here.


Hmmm

There is a Made in Britain type store here somewhere.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Mar 2015, 16:31
Roast...chicken...Pringles?

Man, the things I miss, being gluten intolerant...

I don't know that you're actually missing anything...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Mar 2015, 16:36
In other words - you know when you've been tangoed.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 17 Mar 2015, 16:39
Can we talk about how adorable Marigold looks on the first panel? *Squee intensifies*
(http://i.imgur.com/oqj4jIP.png)
Also hi my first comment here on this forum, hopefully it will be a fun ride.
Welcome, and remember, few truly survive the internet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Mar 2015, 16:48
Roast...chicken...Pringles?

Man, the things I miss, being gluten intolerant...

I don't know that you're actually missing anything...

Yeah, I know.  I can get by without Pringles, I'll be fine.







Just don't say anything about Twizzlers...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Mar 2015, 17:04
I'm confused; potatoes have gluten issues? Or is there something added to Pringles that's the issue? I know they're the mechanically separated chicken of potato chips, so neither would surprise me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Mar 2015, 17:34
Pringles have wheat in them, regular potato chips don't.

Licorice has wheat in it, too, which MAKES ME ANGRY.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Mar 2015, 17:51
See, that wouldn't bother me. I'm not a picky eater, but black licorice (and similar flavors, like anise and whatever the hell it is Ouzo is supposed to taste like) is one flavor I can't stomach.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Mar 2015, 18:07
But but but springerles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springerle).

Trust me, you're missing out.

(I would be, too, but my mom bakes excellent gluten-free ones.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Mar 2015, 18:16
Can we talk about how adorable Marigold looks on the first panel? *Squee intensifies*
(http://i.imgur.com/oqj4jIP.png)
Also hi my first comment here on this forum, hopefully it will be a fun ride.
Welcome, and remember, few truly survive the internet.

Many of us that do TECHNICALLY live on are forever altered in strange, terrible ways...

You have been warned.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Mar 2015, 18:28
There's a you that lives on, but it's not the same you as before. The old you is dead and gone.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Mar 2015, 19:11
Comic's up.

Did Faye shrink? I don't remember Hannelore being that much taller than her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Mar 2015, 19:26
"Did-did you remember to sterilize that crowbar?  I don't want to give you any weird infections if I have to break your kneecaps!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Mar 2015, 19:38
Comic's up.

Did Faye shrink? I don't remember Hannelore being that much taller than her.

I thought the same thing, and now I can't find other strips where they're standing side-by-side for comparison.

EDIT: They appear together in strip 2902, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2902) but Faye's hunched over in that one, whereas she's not in the current one. She's the same height standing straight in this comic as she was hunched over in the other, which is a little odd.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 17 Mar 2015, 19:54
So Faye's named the crowbar "Moral Support"? Now there's a dark sense of humor!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Mar 2015, 20:03
"A Streetcar Called Desire", "A Crowbar Named 'Moral Support'".
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 17 Mar 2015, 20:05
It does sort of look like Hannelore has gotten taller. Compare her in today's comic and here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2902) to an earlier one here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1922), where she's only a little bit taller than Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: qc001 on 17 Mar 2015, 20:06
Comic's up.

Did Faye shrink? I don't remember Hannelore being that much taller than her.

I thought the same thing, and now I can't find other strips where they're standing side-by-side for comparison.

Maybe?  Definitely, based on this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1929) (not exactly a comic, per se), and probably, based on this one (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1923) (a few strips earlier).  I randomly did "last comic minus one thousand strips," so she might have been shrinking gradually over the last, what, three or four days in comic time (I kid) to get to this point...

Dang, ninja'd!  But here's one more (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2678) for yet another comparison...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 17 Mar 2015, 20:08
Hanners is a good friend, not everyone would aim for the knees.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 17 Mar 2015, 20:22
Platform shoes let Hanners stay that much further away from dirt!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Mar 2015, 20:51
So we can expect Support group by Thursday, is what I took from this. I chuckled, but I'm too wrapped up in the drama side of this particular arc to be anything but irritated that the support group is put off yet another day. Hanners had better play a more intensive role than 'keep me froom buying liquor' in the next few comics, that's all I can think.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: tywren on 17 Mar 2015, 21:01
Platform shoes let Hanners stay that much further away from dirt!

Best explanation i can think of.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2015, 21:05
I also think Faye may be slumping a bot in that last panel.

And a good friend will only trip you up.  Smacking the Knees is only permissible if you overdo the point.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Mar 2015, 21:14
I should say that I'm really happy to see Faye admitting she can't control this all on her own
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: SmilingHobo on 17 Mar 2015, 21:16
It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately...I'm thinking this is an indication that their friendship is going to take on a new depth soon. Faye has stuck to a small and mostly static group of close friends for a very long time, it'd be cool to see her let down her defenses a bit and be more comfortable with someone else in the cast.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2015, 21:19
"This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Mar 2015, 21:23
"This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship."

From where I'm sitting, the friendship between Faye and Hannelore is fucking gorgeous. It could be better, but that's the kind of comment that leads gorgeous women to destroy their faces with plastic surgery. The Fay-Hannelore friendship is, from my perspective, a pretty damn big chunk of the reason Faye's been able to stay sober for such a short time. It's a fucking PHENOMONAL friendship.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 17 Mar 2015, 22:51
At this point I think it's mostly Hanners doing the giving, being a very good friend to Faye. Faye is lucky to have such a good pair of friends as Marten and Hannelore. Right now they're what's keeping her alive and viable. If she makes it through, she'll owe both of them a lot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Mar 2015, 22:59
At this point I think it's mostly Hanners doing the giving, being a very good friend to Faye. Faye is lucky to have such a good pair of friends as Marten and Hannelore. Right now they're what's keeping her alive and viable. If she makes it through, she'll owe both of them a lot.

Damn straight. Ever been addicted to something? Getting clean, you owe everything to someone.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Oenone on 18 Mar 2015, 00:02
Hopefully she'll grow into the kind of person who can give back. That's one of the parallels I see between her and Marigold; they're both so traumatized that they only know how to take, and need to learn how to be generous.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Mar 2015, 00:32
Well, I think that I see Faye's point. I suppose that, to someone for whom metal is her chosen oeuvre, a crowbar is close to a shepherd's crook! This precaution, and her fear of just going to drink herself into oblivion instead, does establish just how afraid Faye is of confronting her demons in front of strangers; not an incomprehensible fear, really.

Now, why did Faye look like she was whispering in panel 2? It looked like she wants to keep this secret from Marten. I'm guessing that Marten is so happy with Claire that Faye feels guilty about interrupting this with her needs. It does remind us how essential kind Hannelore can be; naturally, she'd put herself out for a friend.

Now, am I the only one who thinks that everyone at the group is going to think that poor Hanners is the one who wants to enrol? She looks more the sort, compared to Faye!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 18 Mar 2015, 01:12
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
Now, am I the only one who thinks that everyone at the group is going to think that poor Hanners is the one who wants to enrol? She looks more the sort, compared to Faye!
Interesting thought, with possibly hilarious consequences. I guess the attendees will be a bit concerned about the crowbar.

The support group introduces several interesting possibilities:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Akima on 18 Mar 2015, 01:20
"I used to be an alcoholic like you, until I took a crowbar to the knee."

*skyrim-shot*
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: anahata on 18 Mar 2015, 01:35
It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately

It helps that Hanners is unattached. There's nothing for Faye to be envious about (remembering that the loss of Angus is among her current troubles), it means that Hannelore has more time available for Faye, and because Hanners is not ready for a sexual relationship with anyone (and may never be) she is generally willing to devote more energy than most to being a good friend to everybody. Plus she already has a good track record in being fairy godmother to most of the QC cast.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Traptin on 18 Mar 2015, 01:57
Aww, Hanners is so sweet!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Mar 2015, 02:00
Jimbo is a possibility, although he seems not to have a drinking problem. He just drinks.

Remember Canada (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=777).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Mar 2015, 02:15
Aww, Hanners is so sweet!

"Sweet" is pretty much the definition of Hannelore, isn't it? Even when she was being creepy or having one of her OCD-generated violent hallucinations your first instinct was to hug her until the panic attack faded away (counter-productive in her case but that isn't the point here).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 18 Mar 2015, 02:23
"I used to be an alcoholic like you, until I took a crowbar to the knee."

*skyrim-shot*

It is comforting to me to know that someone as fiercely intelligent as yourself enjoys the goofiest humour as much as I do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 18 Mar 2015, 02:45
Both Hanners and Faye seem to have some previous experience (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2319) with group therapy. Scenario:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: ASB84 on 18 Mar 2015, 03:39
I feel Jeph's really cooking with the humour and punchlines this week. Not that the strip's been devoid of humour in recent times or anything, but the three so far this week have been really sharp, in my view.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Doc on 18 Mar 2015, 04:17
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Mar 2015, 04:27
It can be both! That's the beauty of it!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: tywren on 18 Mar 2015, 05:34
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's a 7.5 lb. steal bar, with a hook on one end, and a chisel head on the other; it can be used for a lot of things. Some of those things can be very unpleasant to the human body .
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: CaptainFish on 18 Mar 2015, 05:41
I know it's a gag, but it's also a pretty touching gesture for Faye to give Hannelore that crowbar. It shows that Faye realizes she has issues of confrontation and self-control, that she remembers that Hannelore felt uncomfortable about being a physical barrier to alcohol and that Hanners does get some comfort from self defense stuff (although it's obviously super exaggerated). Most importantly it shows that Faye really needs and appreciates the help she's receiving and realizes how hard she can make it for people to help her.

All those sentiments get undercut by it being a joke, but the deadpan delivery lends it a lot of sincerity. Telling a good joke about how much of a jerk a person is requires that person to realize there's some truth in the statement.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 18 Mar 2015, 06:06
Jimbo is a possibility, although he seems not to have a drinking problem. He just drinks.

Remember Canada (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=777).

That's Canada's problem.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 18 Mar 2015, 06:46
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Carrie_Nation.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Mar 2015, 07:21
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Carrie_Nation.jpg)

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 07:38
It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately

It helps that Hanners is unattached. There's nothing for Faye to be envious about (remembering that the loss of Angus is among her current troubles), it means that Hannelore has more time available for Faye, and because Hanners is not ready for a sexual relationship with anyone (and may never be) she is generally willing to devote more energy than most to being a good friend to everybody. Plus she already has a good track record in being fairy godmother to most of the QC cast.

Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle, but I think it has more to do with the fact that Hanners is the anti-Faye. Faye's typically snarky, defensive and prickly, but when things get difficult she shuts down (or goes for the bottle). Hanners is patient, sometimes kind to a fault and borders on timid, but when things get difficult -- or when Faye gets difficult -- she doesn't put up with people's shit. I think Faye respects (and kinda needs) someone who can not only go toe-to-toe with her, but whose friendship and motives she trusts.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 07:59
It seems like Faye has been reaching out to Hannelore a lot lately

It helps that Hanners is unattached. There's nothing for Faye to be envious about (remembering that the loss of Angus is among her current troubles), it means that Hannelore has more time available for Faye, and because Hanners is not ready for a sexual relationship with anyone (and may never be) she is generally willing to devote more energy than most to being a good friend to everybody. Plus she already has a good track record in being fairy godmother to most of the QC cast.

Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle, but I think it has more to do with the fact that Hanners is the anti-Faye. Faye's typically snarky, defensive and prickly, but when things get difficult she shuts down (or goes for the bottle). Hanners is patient, sometimes kind to a fault and borders on timid, but when things get difficult -- or when Faye gets difficult -- she doesn't put up with people's shit. I think Faye respects (and kinda needs) someone who can not only go toe-to-toe with her, but whose friendship and motives she trusts.

I think that's a fantastic character analysis.
Anahata made a good point, too, about Hanners' lack of attachments making her a fantastic supporter, in regards to having time and the right attitude.

I'm just glad Faye's reaching out to someone. Hanners is the best choice, for sure. 

Like Anahata said, Faye is still hurting from her break-up with Angus. With Dora gone, and CoD gone, she doesn't actually have many other close friends to help her. Marten, of course, is the obvious option, but have you ever been around an adorable, happy couple after you end a relationship? I'm just saying, Faye might well agree with the forum members who whine and complain every time Claire and Marten spend time together in-strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 08:23
She's probably happy for both of them, but you're right. Post-breakup, the last thing you want to see is a bunch of happy, lovey people.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 18 Mar 2015, 08:28
Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 18 Mar 2015, 08:32
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Carrie_Nation.jpg)

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.
We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 08:38
Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

TBH, I never minded being single as much as I minded the platitudes and unsolicited "advice" that came with it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 18 Mar 2015, 08:39
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Carrie_Nation.jpg)

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.
We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.
I'm sure the nation will not mind.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 18 Mar 2015, 08:42
Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

Just remind yourself about all the discounted chocolate you can get the day after.

TBH, I never minded being single as much as I minded the platitudes and unsolicited "advice" that came with it.

Guilty, but in my defense, chocolate.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 08:43
Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

Double that, subtract the idea of having  ever been in a relationship, and you get my sentiment. I don't count the girl I 'dated' in seventh grade but was too afraid to kiss, because that was really just having a friend who would occasionally tell me she dreamed about marrying me, while her dad sat on the front porch with a shotgun, staring at us. He thought it was hilarious, and in retrospect, I agree, but at the time...

Valkygrrl, you have the right idea.

Anyway, though, the point was that as much as Faye might say she's cool with it, I highly doubt if she really is, on a fundamental level, okay with it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 08:49
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Carrie_Nation.jpg)

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.
We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.
I'm sure the nation will not mind.

Thanks for clearing that up. Recognized the face, but thought it was someone else and was going to suggest taking a whack (or forty) at it anyway...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 09:39
I guess Hanners will smash the liquor store instead of Faye with the crowbar. Or order orbital bombardment of all liquor stores in the vicinity.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Carrie_Nation.jpg)

I had a pun all set to go here, but I couldn't find a way to carry it into the conversation.
We'll just carry it for a while and ax you again later. I'm sure you'll hatchet with no problem.
I'm sure the nation will not mind.

Thanks for clearing that up. Recognized the face, but thought it was someone else and was going to suggest taking a whack (or forty) at it anyway...

I see what you did there. I never get borden this message board
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 18 Mar 2015, 11:33
Pssh, I hate Valentines and sweetest day with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns for how much they remind me I'm alone, and I've been single for over a decade.

Just remind yourself about all the discounted chocolate you can get the day after.


Well, I did get a $20 Valentines box of Godiva chocolate for $6...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 18 Mar 2015, 13:07
Very nice.  As per usual, I just got a hangover.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Tova on 18 Mar 2015, 13:24
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's more of a weapon for defense against headcrabs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headcrab).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 18 Mar 2015, 13:54
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

Best part is it doubles as a bottle opener.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 18 Mar 2015, 14:21
And if you accidentally lock yourself out of your apartment, it serves as a handy spare door key..
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 18 Mar 2015, 14:23
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's more of a weapon for defense against headcrabs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headcrab).
Do you mean Gordon? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2335)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 18 Mar 2015, 14:35
A thought has just occurred to me. What will Sam's reaction be when she arrives at CoD and finds out that Faye has been fired?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 14:40
A thought has just occurred to me. What will Sam's reaction be when she arrives at CoD and finds out that Faye has been fired?

It's been mentioned on here before, but always in order to make a joke of some kind. It's a good question, though. She'll be upset, for sure, but what would she do about it? I think it was suggested immediately after the hospital thing that Sam might force her way into helping somehow with Faye's recovery, but maybe she could do something to help with Faye's sobriety?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 18 Mar 2015, 15:41
I just want Sam to meet Claire so she can have another big sister to hang out with.

Although Faye lets Sam make swords, so Claire is already at a disadvantage in the "cool older sister" competition.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 15:47
I just want Sam to meet Claire so she can have another big sister to hang out with.

Although Faye lets Sam make swords, so Claire is already at a disadvantage in the "cool older sister" competition.

Sam worships frogs and is outdoorsy. Claire likes libraries. Also adding to the evidence that Claire doesn't work as a 'cool, older sister,' She's ALREADY an older sister, and not a cool one, especially, at least not to Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 18 Mar 2015, 15:48
Claire can try and teach her the joys of reading as she desperately tries to escape.

Succeeds after a frog based distraction.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 15:55
Claire succeeds, or Sam succeeds? Because I'm having a lot of fun figuring out how a frog based distraction could get someone to read. I'm seeing a singing frog doing a performance of the Reading Rainbow theme

With a French accent for some reason. All frogs, in my mind, have french accents. It's like, a thing
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 18 Mar 2015, 16:02
She's ALREADY an older sister, and not a cool one, especially, at least not to Clinton.

Hey, it's not Claire's fault she has a dorky little brother!  Although that dorky little brother has a robot hand, so Sam's loyalties may be further tested.

All frogs, in my mind, have french accents. It's like, a thing

Excuse me, but there's a Michigan J. Frog here to see you.

Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 16:12

Excuse me, but there's a Michigan J. Frog here to see you.


It is a magical hat that removes his accent. Find me a clip oif him talking with the hat OFF and I shall recant my heresy.

Hey, it's not Claire's fault she has a dorky little brother!  Although that dorky little brother has a robot hand, so Sam's loyalties may be further tested.
I actually agree that Clinton's a dork, but it's genetic. They are BOTH dorks. Sam is NOT a dork, though she might get into the hand, you bring up a point. Oh god, and she knows how to use a blowtorch now. I want them to meet just so I can see what happens.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Akima on 18 Mar 2015, 16:29
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?
It's a 7.5 lb. steal bar
I see what you did there. :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 18 Mar 2015, 16:35
And considering Sam's fascination with robotics, plus the fact that she has a big sister/little sister relationship with Emily, who is also fascinated with robotics AND might be dating Clinton in the near future...oh god, Claire doesn't stand a chance.

That's it, I want a Sam-meets-Claire-and-Clinton arc and I want it NOW VERY SOON.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Sir Wheatley on 18 Mar 2015, 18:09
I don't quite understood why we are frogs! Because we eat them? (never tasted)

Can't get enough of Hannelore, she's like a godess to me now! A godess who were sleeping and waited her reincarnation!

I mean she treatens to beat the shit out of Faye by courtesy and she's still Hanner-able!

I wonder if the support group could trigger something in Hannelore's brain and make her worse IF she's with Faye for the first session.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 18 Mar 2015, 18:10
Comic.

Maybe support groups wouldn't be so bad if they were all across the street from a taco place.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: MooskiNet on 18 Mar 2015, 18:12
Hanners' expression in panel 4 makes the entire comic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: osaka on 18 Mar 2015, 18:14
Hannersface kinda says "You know I am Beatrice's daughter after all right".

Actually, isn't that the contempt face that Faye herself taught Hanners to make to certain customers?

Warning - while you were typing two new replies have been posted. Your point is now old news, and shall perish in flames
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: qc001 on 18 Mar 2015, 18:16
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?
It's more of a weapon for defense against headcrabs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headcrab).
Do you mean Gordon? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2335)

'S funny, I could've sworn his name was Gary.  Turns out there are two of them (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2430)! (Or maybe his name is Gary Gordon! Or Jeph forgot and the caption is wrong...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 18:18
Comic.

Maybe support groups wouldn't be so bad if they were all across the street from a taco place.

Depends whether you have the tacos before or after group. I'd imagine that taco farts wouldn't be particularly conducive to a good discussion.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Mar 2015, 18:25
Tough Hannelore is tough. Do not fuck with Tough Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 18 Mar 2015, 18:27
Comic.

Maybe support groups wouldn't be so bad if they were all across the street from a taco place.

Depends whether you have the tacos before or after group. I'd imagine that taco farts wouldn't be particularly conducive to a good discussion.

Before of course. After the group everyone would be going for tacos and then you'd be seen with them.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 18:30
And what else goes with support groups? Coffee. The thought of coffee and tacos combined makes my intestines quake with fear.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Mar 2015, 18:34
Tacoffee of doom.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Mar 2015, 20:06
And what else goes with support groups? Coffee. The thought of coffee and tacos combined makes my intestines quake with fear.

Wimp

Don't be so judgmental! I'm sure Aziraphale is a tough person! Their bowels, though...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Tova on 18 Mar 2015, 20:12
I was more intrigued as to whether the taco place and the yoga place had some kind of business arrangement.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Consilium on 18 Mar 2015, 20:45
Tacos on the yoga mats warrant a few hygienic concerns.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 18 Mar 2015, 20:46
Sometimes it takes tough love - and a Crowbar.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Mar 2015, 20:54
If that's the case, you need more fiber in your diet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 18 Mar 2015, 21:03
A 2x4?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Mar 2015, 00:19
You have to wonder just how long Faye has been rehearsing that in her head; how long she'd been casting around for a reason to avoid this meeting. It's just an indication of how afraid she is to confront her demons, her past and the degree to which they control who she is today. Obviously, on a certain level, she knew that she was going to try to back out; that's why she gave Hanners the crowbar!

It's a great bit of characterisation, overall and reminds us the depth Jeph can put into his strips.The characters' expressions, especially in panel 4, were brilliant. Especially Hannelore's 'disrespect not the crowbar' glare!

Now, residents of real-life Northampton: Where in your town are our heroines tonight?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: ChaosEsper on 19 Mar 2015, 00:50
Isn't a crowbar more a tool for breaking into the liquor store?

It's more of a weapon for defense against headcrabs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headcrab).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/ChaosEsper/Hannelore%20Freeman.jpg)

I had the same thought, and I made an account and everything just to post a crappy photoshop haha!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Akima on 19 Mar 2015, 01:08
Hanners' "Nope, not buying your bullshit." face is wonderful.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 19 Mar 2015, 02:04
Just realised Faye's shirt. Love it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 19 Mar 2015, 02:19
What are the bets Hannelore starts treating this crowbar like a security blanket?

Cuddling it to sleep at night just in case. Just in case. Home invasion, Pintsize interlude, Friendship Emergency, more people making out so hard they end up on her couch by mistake.

Hanners*Crowbar OTP
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 19 Mar 2015, 05:54
Now, residents of real-life Northampton: Where in your town are our heroines tonight?
I am not a resident, but nerdy as I am, I took to the streets of Northampton using Google Street View. It looks suspiciously like The International Language Institute of Massachusetts. Street View link here (https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+International+Language+Institute+of+Massachusetts/@42.317446,-72.633962,3a,75y,256.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_zdQp7q2KPt2Pgpwijzp7A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xb8b4b705b074e957!6m1!1e1?hl=no).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 19 Mar 2015, 09:08
I love Hannelore's expression in the second last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Welu on 19 Mar 2015, 10:09
Hannelore is a good tough love friend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 19 Mar 2015, 10:43
Leaving Not-AA by coincidence Faye notices Claire in her LGBT support group across the hall. Shocked she rushes home to tell Marten her secret.

'Marty I don't know how to tell you this, your girlfriend, she's....a lesbian!'
'Aww man, not again!'
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: osaka on 19 Mar 2015, 10:45
Leaving Not-AA by coincidence Faye notices Claire in her LGBT support group across the hall. Shocked she rushes home to tell Marten her secret.

'Marty I don't know how to tell you this, your girlfriend, she's....a lesbian!'
'Aww man, not again!'

Visibly amused, Marten runs with it:
"She probably just wanted to get closer to you all along!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 19 Mar 2015, 12:12
Best Hanners in a good while  :-) I'm glad she's getting more screen time recently.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Mar 2015, 13:21
I am not a resident, but nerdy as I am, I took to the streets of Northampton using Google Street View. It looks suspiciously like The International Language Institute of Massachusetts. Street View link here (https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+International+Language+Institute+of+Massachusetts/@42.317446,-72.633962,3a,75y,256.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_zdQp7q2KPt2Pgpwijzp7A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xb8b4b705b074e957!6m1!1e1).

It's actually an old school building that's been re-purposed into office space.

It's also roughly two-three blocks down from Downtown Northampton - which is where (theoretically) CoD is located.

And one of the locations for COD is currently a Starbucks... WTH happened after Faye was fired, anyways?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Mar 2015, 13:22
Leaving Not-AA by coincidence Faye notices Claire in her LGBT support group across the hall. Shocked she rushes home to tell Marten her secret.

'Marty I don't know how to tell you this, your girlfriend, she's....a lesbian!'
'Aww man, not again!'
Visibly amused, Marten runs with it:
"She probably just wanted to get closer to you all along!"

Hilarity ensues.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 19 Mar 2015, 13:23

And one of the locations for COD is currently a Starbucks... WTH happened after Faye was fired, anyways?  :psyduck:

After Faye was fired, the "refurbished" Starbucks employees rebelled and took over CoD.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Mar 2015, 15:03
Now, residents of real-life Northampton: Where in your town are our heroines tonight?
I am not a resident, but nerdy as I am, I took to the streets of Northampton using Google Street View. It looks suspiciously like The International Language Institute of Massachusetts. Street View link here (https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+International+Language+Institute+of+Massachusetts/@42.317446,-72.633962,3a,75y,256.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_zdQp7q2KPt2Pgpwijzp7A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xb8b4b705b074e957!6m1!1e1?hl=no).

I'm disappointed

There's no Taco shop or Yoga Studio across the road!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 19 Mar 2015, 15:15
I'm just disappointed that the only coffee shop I found was a starbucks.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: XODLIRV on 19 Mar 2015, 15:35
I'm betting Faye walks into the support group, and Sven is there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Mar 2015, 15:41
I'm betting Faye walks into the support group, and Sven is there.

I hope not. Faye has serious doubts about even the idea of support groups; if Sven was there, she wouldn't stick around, and depending if she's told Hanners about Sven's confession, she might not even suffer the wrath of a crowbar to the kneecaps.

Leaving Not-AA by coincidence Faye notices Claire in her LGBT support group across the hall. Shocked she rushes home to tell Marten her secret.

'Marty I don't know how to tell you this, your girlfriend, she's....a lesbian!'
'Aww man, not again!'

Visibly amused, Marten runs with it:
"She probably just wanted to get closer to you all along!"

This feels more likely to me. Claire's in a relationship for the first time, and she's already mentioned support groups being helpful to her in the past. She might very well return to an old group to voice her excitement and concerns.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 19 Mar 2015, 17:50
These predictions are too tame.

Faye walks into the wrong room and Pintsize is there, not for support but to see the donkey show.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 19 Mar 2015, 18:11
I'm betting on Faye sitting down, looking around the room, walking back out only to find Hanners and her crowbar waiting...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Mar 2015, 18:14
I'm betting on Faye sitting down, looking around the room, walking back out only to find Hanners and her crowbar waiting...

And then next week is the ACTUAL support group scene. Tomorrow being Friday, that would allow a full week of support group arc
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 19 Mar 2015, 19:39
Donkey show joke gets likes.... shame on you people.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Mar 2015, 19:57
Donkey show joke gets likes.... shame on you people.

Do I get moral points for NOT clicking like on that? Please? I need the moral points because I'm kind of a terrible person?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: celticgeek on 19 Mar 2015, 19:58
Sounds like a fishy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth) insane baroness to me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 19 Mar 2015, 20:08
Donkey show joke gets likes.... shame on you people.

Do I get moral points for NOT clicking like on that? Please? I need the moral points because I'm kind of a terrible person?

Sure, you can also get some for leaving donations in the hug jar....

Uh you know what? After the donkey show joke I should be specific about the type of donations. Leave _only_ hugs in the hug jar, kthx.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 19 Mar 2015, 20:08
Suuuure his name is Arthur.

Abyssinia, Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 19 Mar 2015, 20:22
Abbysinian Hanners:
(https://www.rightpet.com/RatingPhotos/1892014_622518441MammalBreed_15182RedAbys.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Mar 2015, 20:38
Donkey show joke gets likes.... shame on you people.

Do I get moral points for NOT clicking like on that? Please? I need the moral points because I'm kind of a terrible person?

Sure, you can also get some for leaving donations in the hug jar....

Uh you know what? After the donkey show joke I should be specific about the type of donations. Leave _only_ hugs in the hug jar, kthx.

I will happily add hugs to the hug jar. I'm a huggy person. So long as you're into it, I will hug you at any available moment. *hug*
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 19 Mar 2015, 20:51
I will happily add hugs to the hug jar. I'm a huggy person. So long as you're into it, I will hug you at any available moment. *hug*

You don't want to hug me, I'm a monster.

Leave them in the jar for those in need.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: OldGoat on 19 Mar 2015, 21:05
Is Arthur just a walk-on character, or is he another red haired guy like Angus there in the strip to freak Fay out once she take time to notice?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Consilium on 19 Mar 2015, 21:12
I've been waiting for Jeph to get to this part of the story since the newspaper article! This is kind of exciting.  :-D
I wonder if Jeph will have whacky characters in the group, or if he'll take more of a serious approach to it. Probably a hybrid of the two, based on his experiences.

Anyway, the whole alias thing caught me by surprise. I know Faye is skeptical about the group, but Hanners isn't! Maybe she just wants to feel incognito? I wonder how this will play out; if any characters revealed in the group end up being "full time" cast members, they'll likely have some qualms with Jane suddenly not being 'Jane' anymore. Not to mention the baroness' name...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 19 Mar 2015, 21:15
I've been waiting for Jeph to get to this part of the story since the newspaper article! This is kind of exciting.  :-D
I wonder if Jeph will have whacky characters in the group, or if he'll take more of a serious approach to it. Probably a hybrid of the two, based on his experiences.

Anyway, the whole alias thing caught me by surprise. I know Faye is skeptical about the group, but Hanners isn't! Maybe she just wants to feel incognito? I wonder how this will play out; if any characters revealed in the group end up being "full time" cast members, they'll likely have some qualms with Jane suddenly not being 'Jane' anymore. Not to mention the baroness' name...

Hanners saw Faye coming up with an alias and thought that meant she needed to as well. She's just not very good at coming up with aliases.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 19 Mar 2015, 21:19
Is Arthur just a walk-on character, or is he another red haired guy like Angus there in the strip to freak Fay out once she take time to notice?

He actually is Angus, playing the greatest role of his life: that of an Angus lookalike whose slight resemblance to Faye's old boyfriend will unnerve her a bit, even as his group therapy (and, later, one-on-one) sessions help her to heal.  Even though their relationship is, of course, that of therapist and patient, he will nonetheless use his unholy ACTING. TALENT. to get close enough to Faye that she finally opens up and realizes that maybe, just maybe, she can trust another man again.

And then he'll break her heart the way that she broke his.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: tywren on 19 Mar 2015, 21:24
Between the crazy grandmother line, and the crowbar, does anyone else see Hannalor being pointed in the direction of the "separate group"?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 19 Mar 2015, 21:32
She's just not very good at coming up with aliases.

She's not good at it. She's great at it.

I bet Jane doesn't even have a backstory.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: explicit on 19 Mar 2015, 21:57
She's just not very good at coming up with aliases.

I bet Jane doesn't even have a backstory.

Unwed mother of 17. Took to the drink to forget about all the assassinations she did to provide for her kids.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Mar 2015, 22:06
That's a painkiller.



PLOT TWIST  Arthur turns out out to be Angus' long lost brother.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Wildroses on 19 Mar 2015, 22:19
Anyone else think Hannelore wasn't lying and really does have an insane baroness grandmother? Seems appropriate considering her family. Probably her maternal grandmother, Hannelore's Mum is the one with the more aristocratic side.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Euthemes on 19 Mar 2015, 22:43
Relax Hannelore, just act unnatural.

Faye should have given her a warning, besides the crowbar. Hannelore seems to have a problem with spontaneous lying.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Mar 2015, 22:57
PLOT TWIST  Arthur turns out out to be Angus' long lost brother.

Actually, remember when Angus talked about his first impressions of Marigold back in college?

Arthur is one of Angus' roommates.

Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: tywren on 19 Mar 2015, 23:25
Is Arthur just a walk-on character, or is he another red haired guy like Angus there in the strip to freak Fay out once she take time to notice?

He actually is Angus, playing the greatest role of his life: that of an Angus lookalike whose slight resemblance to Faye's old boyfriend will unnerve her a bit, even as his group therapy (and, later, one-on-one) sessions help her to heal.  Even though their relationship is, of course, that of therapist and patient, he will nonetheless use his unholy ACTING. TALENT. to get close enough to Faye that she finally opens up and realizes that maybe, just maybe, she can trust another man again.

And then he'll break her heart the way that she broke his.

Then Hannalor's mother shows up saying "You should have taken that job i offered you when you had the chance".

BTW i'm just going to start calling these little snippets The Ultra-Dark, Other-Vers, headcannon. They even come with their own  theme song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA).

Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Mar 2015, 00:24
Not the best start, is it Faye? On the flip side, there is no doubt that she's nervous. Hiding behind a pseudonym probably makes her feel less vulnerable. It might have worked if Hannelore's imagination was anything but mad squirrels running in circles in her head!

Of course, Arthur has probably lost count of all the 'John Smith', 'Jane Doe' and the like on the registration cards. I'm sure that most eventually admit to their real names in time!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: anahata on 20 Mar 2015, 01:26
It's part of Arthur's job not to be shocked at the things revealed by people in the group, so I'm sure he doesn't turn a hair at obvious pseudonyms. I'm surprised he even commented at Hanners' choice.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Akima on 20 Mar 2015, 01:52
What did Hanners do with the crowbar?

I'm imagining Hanners' insane grandmother as a dieselpunk* version of the Baroness from GI Joe. No doubt on her mother's side; those Bond-villain genes have to come from somewhere.

*Hanners isn't old enough for her grandma to be steampunk - or is she (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1068)? Steampunk is in my computer's spell-checker, but dieselpunk is not.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 20 Mar 2015, 01:53
Hanners probably parked the crowbar by the entrance, in order not to look too conspicuous.

Regarding Hanners' pseudonym: Any clue?
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/8afdc4e84264aac68d998ce414ca67457339f97d.gif)(http://www.enchantedlearning.com/cgifs/Coelacanth_bw.GIF)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Meilu on 20 Mar 2015, 05:16
Hanners probably parked the crowbar by the entrance, in order not to look too conspicuous.

Regarding Hanners' pseudonym: Any clue?

I came here to post the same thing. Curses.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Sir Wheatley on 20 Mar 2015, 05:18
Plot twist: Her grandmother was the great Old One Cthulhu !  :-D
Or a deep one...

It would explain her mental problem...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Dr. Gamera on 20 Mar 2015, 05:20
"Life Support's a group for people coping with life

You don't have to stay too long"
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 20 Mar 2015, 05:43
Is Arthur just a walk-on character, or is he another red haired guy like Angus there in the strip to freak Fay out once she take time to notice?
He actually is Angus, playing the greatest role of his life: that of an Angus lookalike
:mrgreen: Somehow, Arthur reminds me of Clinton. Hopefully, he is less creepy. Arthur might be a recurring character (and a prime target for shippers), we just do not know yet. Also, what is his background? Is he a psychiatrist like Dr. Corrine, or an ex-alcoholic?

I am surprised they had to hunt down a person to ask for directions, an event like this should have a sign at the entrance. Also, I hope there will be more people showing up than just Faye and Hanners (I guess it boils down to how many characters Jeph can be bothered to draw).

The support group is a good opportunity to introduce new characters. Jeph seems to have grown tired of many in the old cast.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Mar 2015, 05:52
"Life Support's a group for people coping with life

You don't have to stay too long"


No day but today.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DrBear on 20 Mar 2015, 06:08
Trivia item 1: The episode in which Henry Blake is killed in MASH is titled "Abyssinia, Henry."

Trivia item 2: "Abyssinia Coelacanth" was Jeph's second choice for a band name after "Deathmole."

(note: one of these items is likely not true)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: KevxD on 20 Mar 2015, 06:31
I just assumed Hannelore's Grandmother actually was an insane Baroness, only occurred to me after that that was made up as well :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Mar 2015, 06:41
I don't see the similarity between Arthur and Angus. Different hair, different faces.
I will happily add hugs to the hug jar. I'm a huggy person. So long as you're into it, I will hug you at any available moment. *hug*

You don't want to hug me, I'm a monster.

Leave them in the jar for those in need.

I have hugs for anyone who needs/wants one. Even monsters, if they're not going to snap my neck, or do anything else horrible to me for it
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Mar 2015, 06:44
I just assumed Hannelore's Grandmother actually was an insane Baroness, only occurred to me after that that was made up as well :psyduck:

Actually, when you take into the consideration the possible date, there is no reason why you can't have a head-canon that Beatrice's older sister is The Baroness from GI Joe. That would naturally make her grandmother the former Baroness.

I like the thought that Hannelore is, on top of everything else, blue-blooded Eurotrash. I like even more the thought that, as well as having a malevolent corporate overlord as a mother and a mad scientist with orbit-to-surface weapons at his disposal as a father, her maternal aunt is a senior member of a global terrorist group/cult and the favourite of Cobra Commander Himself. There is literally no end to the amount of financial, technological and physical harm that Hannelore could arrange to be done to Juicy if she ever gets really, really mad at her.

... I've suddenly visualised Hannelore in Crimson Guardsman combat gear...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: publicfig on 20 Mar 2015, 07:03
What do you think the chances are that Sven is going to be in the same rehab program as her?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Mar 2015, 07:07
What do you think the chances are that Sven is going to be in the same rehab program as her?

Less than zero. Sven isn't the sort of personality to become dependent on a substance and, even if he was, he isn't the sort of personality to admit that he needs help.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Mar 2015, 07:09
What do you think the chances are that Sven is going to be in the same rehab program as her?

Why do people want this so much? I don't get it, the support group was specifically for people with  substance abuse problems, and beyond that, Sven's presence would basically guarantee Faye making a hasty retreat, too fast for Hanners to recover and grab the crowbar she seems to have left outside 
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 20 Mar 2015, 08:30
Why do people want this so much?

Speaking for myself, there's already too many characters to handily keep track of.  Recycling a few for this story would clamp down on "cast overflow" syndrome.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 20 Mar 2015, 08:30
What do you think the chances are that Sven is going to be in the same rehab program as her?
Zero. He does not have a drinking problem. I have no doubt we shall see Sven in the future, but not in this context.

Also, welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Mar 2015, 08:38
If Sven did show up, it would go like this:

"Hi, my name is Sven, and I'm a creep."
"Sorry, you're supposed to be in the room across the hall."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Mar 2015, 08:40
Why do people want this so much?

Speaking for myself, there's already too many characters to handily keep track of.  Recycling a few for this story would clamp down on "cast overflow" syndrome.

The problem is how Faye would react, which is to say, badly. I don't think even Hannelore, in her angry, stern mode with a cfrowbar would be able to keep Faye in a room with the people she knows to talk about her alcohol problems
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 20 Mar 2015, 09:45
Why do people want this so much?

Speaking for myself, there's already too many characters to handily keep track of.  Recycling a few for this story would clamp down on "cast overflow" syndrome.

Let's say there's nine people (other than Faye) in her support group. Not everyone's going to be there for the first time like she is, and might decide for one reason or another to stop attending over time while other newbies come in. Faye might hit it off with one or another of them, whereupon they might become a "regular" cast member, but a lot of the others would only crop up when we see them in group.

Plot twist: Hanners tries to leave after dropping Faye off, only to have Arthur (or Faye, jokingly) try to persuade her not to leave.

Unrelated: We won't see Sven here, for reasons already articulated by NilsO and others (whatever other issues Sven may have, drinking isn't one of them).

Further unrelated: No, I'm not shipping, but I wonder if there's an Arthur/"Abyssinia" story line in the offing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 20 Mar 2015, 09:52
Sounds like a fishy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth) insane baroness to me.

Must have the gill to resist making a pun.

...gah dangit.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 20 Mar 2015, 10:28
'Alright Ladies, how about you tell me your real names?'

'Hannelore Elicott-Chatham.'

'*Sigh* Fine, don't tell me.'
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Roborat on 20 Mar 2015, 11:25
I just assumed Hannelore's Grandmother actually was an insane Baroness, only occurred to me after that that was made up as well :psyduck:

I figured she was a Hetrodyne.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 20 Mar 2015, 11:50
If Sven did show up, it would go like this:

"Hi, my name is Sven, and I'm a creep."
"Sorry, you're supposed to be in the room across the hall."

SVEN: "That's what they told me across the hall."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Mar 2015, 12:06
I just assumed Hannelore's Grandmother actually was an insane Baroness, only occurred to me after that that was made up as well :psyduck:

I figured she was a Hetrodyne.

Well, that still works just fine...

She still sounds more like one of Lucretia Mongfish's cousins though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Mlle Germain on 20 Mar 2015, 13:24
I like today's comic. It's funny.  :-D

Also, I don't think Arthur looks like Angus; that didn't even occur to me while I read the comic. I think this is just Jeph's generic way of drawing guys.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 20 Mar 2015, 14:49
Also, I don't think Arthur looks like Angus; that didn't even occur to me while I read the comic.

I agree. If anything he looks more like Clinton to me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 20 Mar 2015, 14:51
Also, I don't think Arthur looks like Angus

That's because he's early Clinton (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1898).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Mar 2015, 15:15
So place your bets now: Who will Arthur's sister end up dating?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 20 Mar 2015, 15:22
Hanners?


*EvilGrin*
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 20 Mar 2015, 15:45
Anyone else think Hannelore wasn't lying and really does have an insane baroness grandmother?

Yah, like Liz Bathory, maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 20 Mar 2015, 16:11
Hannelore's great-grandfather (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=913) sounds like your typical imperialistic White Man's Burden/"spreading civilization"-type.  I'm guessing in the Chatham line, the domineering-tyrant gene and the crazy-recluse gene like to alternate generations, so it's entirely possible that Hannelore's grandmother, stuck between Thaddeus Whitehall and Beatrice, was more of the insane type. 

My guess for Hannelore's children?  Spoiled, super-entitled, no barriers...and we're probably watching them right now in Alice Grove.  Just wait until Gavia grows up.

(That's probably why Station decided to send them to one of the Sanctuaries in the first place.  Gotta nip those bad qualities in the bud before it's too late, dontcha know.)

(This is now my personal headcanon.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Mar 2015, 18:05
Also, I don't think Arthur looks like Angus

That's because he's early Clinton (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1898).

Nope. Not the same. Arthur has too much forehead and a lumpier nose.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: tywren on 20 Mar 2015, 18:33
Is Arthur just a walk-on character, or is he another red haired guy like Angus there in the strip to freak Fay out once she take time to notice?

Red haired? Are you color Blind, that guy's a blond. Maybe a honeywheat blond in comparison to Hannelore's more platinum shade, but still a blond.

On a different note, i just had a thought; Hannelore is still wearing her house clothes (i'm guessing her wardrobe is still short after the Juicy incident). With her in nothing but a tanktop/undershirt, bicycle shorts, a pink house slippers, what are the odds that he thinks she's with the drinking problem, and "Jane" is the one there for moral support?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Consilium on 20 Mar 2015, 18:48
https://ruins-of-adventure.obsidianportal.com/characters/abyssinia-coelacanth (https://ruins-of-adventure.obsidianportal.com/characters/abyssinia-coelacanth)

just a friendly update that someone made a table top rpg character sheet and backstory for Abyssinia Coelacanth.
For all those interested...
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 20 Mar 2015, 19:48
Red haired? Are you color Blind, that guy's a blond. Maybe a honeywheat blond in comparison to Hannelore's more platinum shade, but still a blond.

Going back to this again since it's the same as the Alice thing, his hair looks red. Real world red hair. Which is orange. Which gets odd since you have >>  :claireface: red hair which is actually red.

So it canonically probably is a shade of blonde, unless Claire's whole family uses hair dye. But you're not color blind for seeing orange. Because it's orange.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 21 Mar 2015, 03:32
Some of us take it to extremes though. CCR5-Δ32 and 3BHSD.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Mar 2015, 06:42
You're just one of those people who never does a half-assed job at anything, aren't you Zoe?  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Mar 2015, 11:00
I'm pretty sure that next week will be all at the Support Group. I have absolutely no doubt that at least one strip will be the moderator (Arthur) thinking that Hannelore has her own problems and her breaking down (much to the other attendees surprise) and confessing to her shameful over-use of antiseptic handwash.

I've also got the feeling that either this Friday or the next (because, depending on how Jeph scripts it, you could easily have a two-week arc on this subject) will be something like this previously-posted strip:

Quote
Previously posted here (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30376.msg1293251.html#msg1293251)

Panel 1: (Extreme close up of Faye's sad, ashamed eyes)
Panel 2: (slight zoom-out to full face)
FAYE: "Fuck. I... I don't even know where to start."
OTHER PERSON: (speech bubble from off the side of the panel) "Take your time; there's no rush."
Panel 3: (Faye is sitting in a simple metal-framed deckchair in a room)
FAYE: "My... My name... My name is Faye Whitaker and... and..."
Panel 4: (Wide angle; Faye is sitting in an arc of chairs with serious and sympathetic people sitting around her, applauding; Faye is covering her face with her hands; there are 'AA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous)' posters on the wall behind her).
FAYE: "... and... and I'm an alcoholic."

FWIW, my guess is that Jeph will try to finish the actual meeting in one or one and a half weeks so the remaining strips of the arc can be Faye and Hanners walking home with whoever they've met who is going to be the situation's secondary character opposite Faye. I'm thinking either an existing character (and I'm still hoping for Mrs Augustus) or a new character.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Mar 2015, 11:41
I'm thinking either an existing character (and I'm still hoping for Mrs Augustus) or a new character.

I like this possinility, but I also really like the idea of Claire being at an LGBTQ support group across the hall, because I like the confusion it would cause Faye. It might be difficult to do that without coming off as transphobic on Faye's part, so I understand why Jeph might not go that route, but it would be interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 21 Mar 2015, 14:00
I'm thinking either an existing character (and I'm still hoping for Mrs Augustus) or a new character.

I like this possinility, but I also really like the idea of Claire being at an LGBTQ support group across the hall, because I like the confusion it would cause Faye. It might be difficult to do that without coming off as transphobic on Faye's part, so I understand why Jeph might not go that route, but it would be interesting.

Mrs. A is too old for the group (maximum age, IIRC, was 30). And Claire's presence at an LGBTQ group wouldn't necessarily mean she was trans*. I mean, we know that, but Faye doesn't necessarily. As far as Faye would know, she could be bi, for instance, or (if it was anything like PFLAG) could just be a family member trying to support someone who was LGBTQ (which could just as plausibly end up with Faye starting to wonder about Clinton).
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: anahata on 21 Mar 2015, 15:35
I'm learning an amazing number of new abbreviations and acronyms since joining this forum.
LGBTQ I knew abut, but PFLAG was a new one on me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Mar 2015, 18:27
Claire's presence at an LGBTQ group wouldn't necessarily mean she was trans*.

Faye would still likely feel the need to mention it. Whether she DID would be up for debate, but it would play with the dynamic between her and Claire b/c Claire isn't out to Faye. Interpersonal drama would be happening between them which keep the comic interesting
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 21 Mar 2015, 21:20
My predictions:

• It's not going to be a conventional AA meeting, therefore missing the well-known trappings ("I'm Abyssinia Coelacanth and I'm an alcoholic...I've been sober x days").
• No one there will be familiar. Claire will not be attending an adjacent meeting. The unexpected-acquaintance-encounter at AA is such an overused trope I can't believe Jeph will bother with it.
• Jeph won't forget to bring the funny. There'll be kooky hijinks, not morose naval-gazing.
• Faye will either be disgusted and try to flee, or she'll be unexpectedly captivated. Maybe both (remember her early antipathy to Angus?).
• Hannelore may be required to apply the Death-Gaze™ at least once during the proceedings. At whom, I have no idea.

Will there be any AI's at the meeting (no, not Pintsize). Can they get addicted to things?
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Consilium on 21 Mar 2015, 21:31
Can they get addicted to things?

I don't think they can get chemically addicted to anything, but we all know PS is addicted to dat ass.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Mar 2015, 00:05
He would have to go in the creeps's group anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: DSL on 22 Mar 2015, 03:39
He would have to go in the creeps's group anyway.

"That's what they said across the hall."
Title: Re: WCDT 2917 to 2921 (16-20 March 2015)
Post by: snubnose on 23 Mar 2015, 03:42
I just HAVE to point out that #2920 would have been so much better without #2919.

The fact that we already know about the crowbar just kills the joke.