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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Sideways on 29 Mar 2006, 10:38
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Hello all!
In advising JJMitchell on what to get for an upgraded PC, I was thinking about what I would get if I had absolutely no monetary restrictions...
SO I decided to make this thread where we can post what our dream rig would be, and then argue about who's is better! :P
My dream rig:
Case:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/7245.jpg)
Screwless lightweight aluminum chassis with three temperature display meters, low-noise 1100RPM fans, carrying strap and USB2.0/firewire/audio front-mounted ports. Three fans total (side, top, rear).
Motherboard:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/7471.jpg)
Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe w/ DualDDR400, Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, 1394, Crossfire Dual PCI-E x16.
Supports dual PCI Express x16 slots to run two video cards together via ATI Crossfire Xpress 3200. Supports AMD Athelon 64FX... which brings me to...
Processor:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/7275.jpg)
AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 Dual-Core w/ 2x1MB Cache.
Frequency: 2.6GHz
HyperTransport™ Technology Speed: 2000MHz
Integrated Memory Controller: 2.6GHz
L1 Cache Size: 2x 128KB (128KB per core)
L2 Cache Size: 2 x 1MB (1MB per core)
L2 Cache Speed: 2.6GHz
Core Voltage: 1.35-1.40 V
Memory:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/6723.jpg)
Corsair 2048MB TwinX PC3200 CAS 2 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 1024MB).
Video Cards:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/5852.jpg)
Two of these badboys.
Chipset: Nvidia GeForce™ 7800 GTX
Interface: PCI Express™x16
Memory: 256MB GDDR3
Memory Inteface: 256-Bit GDDR3
Core Clock: 460MHz (vs. 430MHz standard)
Memory Clock: 1300MHz (vs. 1200MHz standard)
Geometry: 920 million vertices/sec.
Memory Bandwidth: 41.6GB/second
RAMDAC: Dual 400MHz
Hard Drive:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/7298.jpg)
Maxtor 500GB DiamondMax 11 7200RPM SATA II w/ 16MB Cache.
DVD/CD/R/RW/ROM:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/5712.jpg)
Plextor PX-716SA 16x16 Dual Layer CD/DVD+/-RW, Serial ATA.
Power Supply:
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/6817.jpg)
Enermax Liberty Modular Power Supply, 620W.
This system would rock your (and your mom's) socks off.
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Looks good to me.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
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duuuude, where did you find that case?
ADDITION: Nevermind, I just figure it out. Although, other people might want to know.
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What's the cost on all that? Not that I have the money, but a guy can wish...
What about a monitor? Should I start the CRT / LCD debate? Would you go single monitor or double or even triple? Or widescreen? What sizes?
My current monitor. I want to have its babies.
(http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/24-116-371-12.JPG) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116371)
ViewSonic VP2030b Black 20.1" 8ms gray-to-gray (avg); 16ms black-white-black (typ) LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 0.255mm Pixel Pitch - Retail
clicky for specs.
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BenQ has very reasonably priced 17"LCD monitors with 5ms response (great for gaming) which retail for around $290.00 (CDN). I'd go with a triple-setup, considering how I already have two of em. :P
That total setup I noted above would cost....
Case: $169.95
Motherboard: $249.95
Processor: $1,229.95
Memory: $309.95
Video Card 1: $559.95
Video Card 2: $559.95
Hard Drive: $359.95
DVDRW/CDRW: $164.95
Power Supply: $184.95
Then add three of these (though with the above setup you could have FOUR!!!):
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/6027.jpg)
BenQ FP71V+ 17" Digital LCD (DVI Connect) 5ms response:
$299.95
and the total cost (not including a mouse and keyboard, or speakers) is:
CPU: $3,789.55
Monitors: $899.85
Total:$4,689.40.
Don't forget the fun peripherals too (these are the things I either have or want):
Belkin Nostromo SpeedPad - 'have':
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/4041.jpg)
Logitech Cordless diNova Media Desktop - 'want':
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/4164.jpg)
Logitech Z-4 2.1 Speaker System - 'have':
(http://www.memoryexpress.com/productfiles/images/6592.jpg)
(Good GOD the sound that comes out of those two speakers is awesome... better than any 5.1 comp-speaker system I've ever heard!!!)
Incidentally, all of this stuff (prices and availability) is courtesy of Memory Express Computer Products & Electronics Inc. - which is only in Calgary, AB, Canada... sadly.
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There's nothing I can say to improve on that. Nothing.
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Meh, it'll be obsolete in 18 months.
/glass half empty
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My ideal pc is somewhat in the vicinity of Sideways's rig there, but with a few little differences. I'm going to lunch right now, but I'll have to remember to post my "perfect rig" once I get back. I'll be scouting about to get pc part prices for a friend at the same time, so this will be a fun addition to that exercise :)
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(http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/vintage/images/4506VV1001.jpg) (http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/vintage/vintage_4506VV1001.html)
Click for specs
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(http://photo2.si.edu/infoage/bombe.gif)
YEEE-ah.
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Hey Sideways, my friend Nat just built himself a computer with pretty much those exact specs. HL2 on maximum settings take 1.5 seconds to load... *droool*
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Meh, it'll be obsolete in 18 months.
/glass half empty
There's a difference between "obsolete", "behind the cutting edge" and "worthless"
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I know, switch, that's why I said "/glass half empty".
Hell, your rig'll be good for at least 4 years. Although you may need to upgrade the DVD burner to either an HDDVD or a blu-ray DVD, whichever eventually wins the war.
(Btw, what the hell freaking company thought that DiVX was a good idea?! ...morons)
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Ok, so to get my dream rig take Sideways' example there, replace the motherboard with an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe (nForce4, dual gigabit lan, etc), the video cards with GeForce 7900 GTXes, up the ram to 4gb (I know I know, but this is a dream rig, remember?). I'd also use a Seagate 500gb 7200rpm SATA II drive.
Not sure about the case, but that doesn't really matter, does it? For the monitor/s I'd go for a couple of 20" NEC Multisync 20WGXs. Widescreen, big enough to be impressive, 6ms grey-to-grey response. Pretty decent monitors for gaming, and as a bonus each of them have 4 USB sockets for convenient plugging.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/est_xplosif/IMG0015756.jpg)
Noice.
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Hell... as long as price is no problem.
This would be nice:
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My shit is pretty much as good as it gets. I would probably switch up from my X2 to an FX 60, but I already have two 7800GTXs and 2GB of PC4000 DDR. Not much more for me to do until Conroe comes out.
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If price was no problem, I'd have that uber-screen build.. without seams between panels.
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I want that case in the first post. It's purrdy.
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Hell... as long as price is no problem.
This would be nice:

I can't help but wonder if this pic was photoshopp'd... how is that kind of setup even possible?!
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Sure it's possible, if you're friggen Bill Gates.
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It's definately real Sideways. 12 linux servers running a distributed X-Server.
Linky.
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My dream PC is a thin-tower Dell.
Anyway, our MHSS instructor told us the other day he built a PC with one of those AMD64 processors - he said that Windows XP installed in seven minutes.
I think my computer can load Adobe Illustrator CS in seven minutes (maybe a little faster).
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Jenno, pity it runs games like shit, though. I read about that. The FPS was so abysmal that it wasn't funny.
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It seems pretty playable in the videos on that site. Provided you only want to play Quake 3 of course.
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It's not worth starting a new thread over so I'll derail this one. If I were to buy a new graphics card (geforce 6800gt) in the States and bring it back to NZ it would work in my machine right?
Then my computer would be basically a dream rig. New soundcard maybe but everything else is good as.
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Yeah it'll work Rizzo. Computer parts in the USA are exactly the same as everywhere else :)
Also... I need one of these.
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By the way, Dells Flat panels simply stomp all over every other flat panel I've seen on the market. Price, quality etc... nothing better.
Oh and I ahve an X-Fi Pro, they are VERY worth the money. I upgraded from an Audigy Platinum and the difference is very noticeable. I've got it pushing through a set of Logitch 5.1 speakers, its a truly awesome system.
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I'm going to dump in here, my ultimate gaming rig will be a MacBookPro with Bootcamp.
*that sound you hear is Aspyr's Mac division all getting laid off at once*
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I dunno, Mnem. I've been looking at a bunch of 3dMark benchmarks from the new MacBooks & Mac Minis running WinXP using Boot Camp and despite having a decent cpu and graphics card (x1600 is pretty good) they are really lacking.
If I were seriously interested in buying an Intel Mac I'd be waiting until the end of this year when Conroe comes out to see if there is any improvement.
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Ok, est, that is probably the best avatar I have ever seen.
/derail
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Logitech Z-4 2.1 Speaker System - 'have':
[picture of speaker system]
(Good GOD the sound that comes out of those two speakers is awesome... better than any 5.1 comp-speaker system I've ever heard!!!)
Why bother with computer speakers, if money is no object?
Just get a bunch of these:
(http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/2544/summitnatcherryblackalu3tt.jpg)
(Martin Logan Summit)
One of these:
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2567/cinemaiblack5kc.jpg)
(Martin Logan Cinema i)
One of these:
(http://www.us.martinlogan.com/images/trim/speaker/descent_natural_cherry.jpg)
(Martin Logan Descent)
To decode the signal:
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7172/40prlo3mi.jpg)
(Mark Levinson Nº 40 Media Console)
Preamp:
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8315/32adstklo9gl.th.jpg) (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32adstklo9gl.jpg)
(Mark Levinson Nº 32 Reference Pre-Amplifier)
And finally, the amplifiers:
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1243/33hprlo7yh.jpg)
(Nº 33H Monaural Power Amplifier, one for each speaker)
Now, the problem is the sound card (because I would cry if someone put a SoundBlaster output into that setup), but I don't know anything about high-end sound cards.
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Holy friggen crap. I think I just came.
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How much for all that, bassist?
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Well, assuming we're going for a 7.1 system (in USD)
Full range speakers: 6x$10,000=$60,000
Center channel: 1x$1,295=$1,295
Subwoofer: 1x$2,795=$2,795
Total cost of speakers: $64,090
Now, I just chose a brand that I like and is actually affordable by normal (i.e. not the richest person ever) human beings (i.e. after saving and making a good living, one can afford a pair of them). I didn't go for the uber high-end that stereophile always reviews, just because I'm not as familiar with them. With the signal processing, I kind of did.
Media Console: $30,000=$30,000
Amplifiers: 4x$33,000/pair=$132,000
(pre-amp is included in media console)
Total cost of signal processing: $162,000
Total: $226,090
Would you like to buy a house, or a killer sound system?
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Shit, if I had that kind of money, I'd totally buy the stereo system. My ears would orgasm every time I played music.
(And have you ever seen an ear orgasm? It's like a normal genital orgasm, only through your ears. And with the ears being so close to your brain, not to mention TWO of them, it's like the ultimate orgasm ever.)
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We in the music world call it an "eargasm," and yes, I've seen it a bunch.
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EARGASM! HAH! My vocabulary has been increased today! Awesome!
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I just use headphones.
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On purpose? I'm sorry. Headphones are okay, but for really good sound, they just don't cut it.
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Ever used Sennheisers?
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Yes, I've used their mics and their headphones. Not bad, certainly, but they honestly can't compare to a high-end audio setup. I mean, quality/price is better than the speakers, but the elements are just too small to really get it right.
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Big setups are good for big sound. The environment I live in is loud enough that I'd never get any use out of anything that costs more then $2000.
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Yeah, and unfortunately the apartment where I live has shitty walls, so anything I get sounds pretty poor, no matter how amazingly awesome it may be (not very, as of now due to my status as a pauper).
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Now, the problem is the sound card (because I would cry if someone put a SoundBlaster output into that setup), but I don't know anything about high-end sound cards.
I'm gonna have to suggest the sound card I'm running these days. The M-Audio Delta 66 (http://media.zzounds.com/media/brand,zzounds/omnistudio-469c13e7a2b0341b4da60f9f2723b564.jpg). I guess it's more for recording and whatnot, but it just sounds so friggen good.
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I'm actually running the 66 through an omni-studio break-out-box, and it does sound amazing. However, it only does two-channel stereo.
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I know. That kind of sucks, but you can always send a digital signal from the 66 out to something that will make it a surround signal. I think the reason it doesn't have anything more than stereo is that anyone using the omni for recording isn't gonna want to mix with a 5.1 (or whatever) signal pre production. I'm sure they also assume that if you can afford the Delta/omni, you can afford something to split your signal into 5.1, 7.1 or whatever.