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Title: itunes upload?
Post by: edcho7000 on 07 Apr 2006, 08:48
the band i'm in is putting out a cd later this month.  I'd plug the band, but i did that at another forum and they banned me for a week, so i'm not sure if i'm allowed to do that in this forum even though i did read the rules.  but my question is there a way to upload the track listing and band name so when someone puts it into their pc with an internet connection, itunes or media player can find it.  does anyone know how to do this?
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: KharBevNor on 07 Apr 2006, 09:08
With the winamp thing, you put the CD in then if it doesn't recognise it you can submit your own, or soemthing.

I thin. Sorryu, I'm quite drunk. and it's not even 6 pn!
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: Der Golem on 07 Apr 2006, 12:28
But by all means, plug the band.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: nescience on 07 Apr 2006, 13:53
I happen to work at the company that handles most of the CD data lookups in the world (Gracenote), so I can tell you that you'll probably want to do what Khar said: stick your CD into a computer and open it with a current version of a music player that is NOT Windows Media Player (like iTunes, but I believe WinAmp also works).  I don't use WinAmp, but here's how to do it for iTunes: If you stick the CD in and no data comes up (which, if no one's listened to the CD yet, should be the case), then you should use File->Get Info to view track, album and artist data and edit it as necessary.  To save time, you can first select multiple tracks, select "Get Info", and add your band's name, the album name, the year, and the genre.  Do us a favor and Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word.  

Then when you've entered all the album, artist, track, genre, year data, you can select Advanced->Submit CD Track Names, which will use our Submit tool to send the album data to our CDDB.  It will take between 15 minutes and one day to get the data to appear on CD data lookups.  You should test whether or not this worked on another computer, since iTunes and other players usually keep a cache of the custom data you've entered.

You will probably have to do this for Windows Media Player as well, since it's the only major music player app that doesn't use us.  I'm sure WMP has a very similar Submit utility that you can use much in the same way as the iTunes utility.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: edcho7000 on 09 Apr 2006, 15:55
i use itunes, and yes, that seems to have worked.  I have submitted it.  Thanks for the help.

The band is called the shake ups and we sound kind of like the shins, Wilco, Rogue Wave, The Pixies, and of course i can name a million bands but that doesn't help anyone.

www.theshakeups.com
www.myspace.com/theshakeups
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: Kai on 09 Apr 2006, 16:48
Really? huh. You should change your sound so you sound like Buckethead. Because he's amazing.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: Garcin on 09 Apr 2006, 23:18
Yah, good luck with the iTunes thing.  But seriously, plug your band, link us to your MySpace page or whatever, or just tell us where to find MP3s on the web if you want.  I'm no mod, but I've never seen an adverse reaction to someone plugging their band once on these forums.  Now if you spammed the advert on the other hand . . . yeah, don't do that :)
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: ozphactor on 09 Apr 2006, 23:51
Quote from: nescience
Do us a favor and Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word.

Argh, I hate when people do that. I know there are various--and sometimes conflicting--rules for English language title capitalization, but I thought there was a general consensus that articles, prepositions, and conjuctions are not to be capitalized? So, "Capitalize the First Letter of Every Word."

I could be totally wrong, though. Do let me know if this is the case.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: edcho7000 on 10 Apr 2006, 06:28
I think the post means just for songs on itunes.  i bet they have to retype the track names they receive where the first letter is not capitalized, therefore it'd be helping them out.

otherwise, yes i think you're right, like for essays and papers you don't have to capitalize the first letter of every word, but i am not an english teacher so don't quote me on that.

the links to the free tunes are

www.myspace.com/theshakeups

and www.theshakeups.com

and i did find a way to upload the track titles to Windows Media Player.  Thanks for the help.
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Title: itunes upload?
Post by: Kai on 10 Apr 2006, 15:52
Quote from: ozphactor
Quote from: nescience
Do us a favor and Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word.

Argh, I hate when people do that. I know there are various--and sometimes conflicting--rules for English language title capitalization, but I thought there was a general consensus that articles, prepositions, and conjuctions are not to be capitalized? So, "Capitalize the First Letter of Every Word."

I could be totally wrong, though. Do let me know if this is the case.



Yeah, I only capitalize all thems "fancy words".
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: nescience on 10 Apr 2006, 18:03
The Style Used In The CDDB For Titles, Whether Or Not It Is Stylistically Correct (and I Dispute it, but Whatever), Is To Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word.  My Request Is On The Behalf Of My Company, Not on Behalf of My Grammatical Sense.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: beat mouse on 10 Apr 2006, 18:50
Quote from: ozphactor
Quote from: nescience
Do us a favor and Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word.

Argh, I hate when people do that. I know there are various--and sometimes conflicting--rules for English language title capitalization, but I thought there was a general consensus that articles, prepositions, and conjuctions are not to be capitalized? So, "Capitalize the First Letter of Every Word."

I could be totally wrong, though. Do let me know if this is the case.


If people don't do that to my mp3s, I Change Them To All Caps. Poorly tagged mp3s make me angrier than Mike Tyson.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: Kai on 10 Apr 2006, 19:07
Yeah, I'd rather have all caps than someone WHO DOESN'T FILL OUT THE IID3 TAG AT ALL.

http://www.ninjapirate.com/how-to-name-files-properly-and-efficiently-so-that-everyone-can-read-them-without-hassle-or-misunderstanding.htm.html
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: ozphactor on 10 Apr 2006, 21:16
Quote from: Kai
http://www.ninjapirate.com/how-to-name-files-properly-and-efficiently-so-that-everyone-can-read-them-without-hassle-or-misunderstanding.htm.html

Wow, I actually thought that was a serious tutorial until about halfway through. My files pretty much look like every "WRONG" screenshot in there, so I guess I'm good to go, huh?
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: nescience on 11 Apr 2006, 13:35
That page is the reason for my line of work.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: Kai on 11 Apr 2006, 14:58
The best part of that page is the "Do not use ID tags. ID tags hide the truth, and hiding the truth is wrong." thing. Classic. But that's because I get really pissed off when I download something and none of the IID3 tag data is filled out.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: minkles on 11 Apr 2006, 15:22
So, I listened to the music.  It's actually very good.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: edcho7000 on 12 Apr 2006, 03:55
Thank you for the compliment. You are awesome and now good things will happen to you.

so i "uploaded" the song titles and stuff to windows media player and i put the disc back in to check it and it worked, but i tried it on my friends computer and it didn't find anything.

oh well.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: amok on 12 Apr 2006, 10:21
Quote from: Kai
The best part of that page is the "Do not use ID tags. ID tags hide the truth, and hiding the truth is wrong." thing. Classic. But that's because I get really pissed off when I download something and none of the IID3 tag data is filled out.


Have you heard of a program called "Tag & Rename"? It's fantastic, it has this widget where you can fill out ID tags of a whole album from the filename.

So, say you have this EP (I cba to do a list of 10 songs) in the following format

band - 01 - title
band - 02 - title2
band - 03 - title3

You can put in a formula, select the tracks, and it'll automatically copy each part of the filename to the appropriate part of the tag. You can fix up an album and make it look all neat and correctly tagged in ~10 seconds. Then rename the files again to suit your personal preferences.

I can YSI a .rar of this program if anyone's interested/doesn't know it?

edit: whoops, I got carried away and totally derailed a topic again. Sorry OP.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: edcho7000 on 12 Apr 2006, 11:12
"whoops, I got carried away and totally derailed a topic again. Sorry OP."

it's okay, there's like 3 conversations going on in this thread.  It's kind of cool actually.

1. there's one about itunes and stuff like that

2. the band i'm in

3. and then the weird grammatical thing with capitalizing letters which i find very interesting
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: ozphactor on 13 Apr 2006, 23:35
Quote from: amok
Have you heard of a program called "Tag & Rename"? It's fantastic, it has this widget where you can fill out ID tags of a whole album from the filename.

I use Mp3tag (http://mp3tag.de/en/index.html), which supports tag-to-filename, filename-to-tag, regular expressions, auto-numbering, the works. It's pretty user-friendly as well.
Title: itunes upload?
Post by: nescience on 14 Apr 2006, 12:05
I use my company's media manager, which reads THE WAVEFORM SIGNAL for an MP3, matches it with an existing waveform in our database, and writes new metadata into the tag itself.  SCIENCE!