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Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: pat101 on 10 Apr 2006, 23:54
Basically I've always had the idea that I'd really like a website with an all inclusive list of all the musical genre's out in the world and an easy way to access them. I figured why not get started on a list on this very board?
Here's what I'm thinking anyone can post and the defenition should include some examples of artists in the genre. Defenitions wouldn't have to be orginal as i'm sure wikipedia has pretty much everything, but the certinally could be. Than I figure we make a giant ass list of every musical genre we can think of and alphabitze it and say to ourslves "we're awsome"

I apolgize for this whole post being so poorly written but it's 2am and I'm very tired.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Zaarin on 11 Apr 2006, 00:14
Speedcore - hardcore (the electronic kind, not the "beat the shit out of fellow audience members" kind) with obscene tempi; generally from about 250 to 1000 BPM. You need to take a hell of a lot of drugs to be able to dance to this stuff.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: lofin on 11 Apr 2006, 00:34
they have one for trance/techno/euro
http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

pretty neat and nicely done too.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: beat mouse on 11 Apr 2006, 00:54
gore: pig squeals. blastbeats. downtuned. that is all you need to know.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Rubby on 11 Apr 2006, 01:38
Drinking Water: I'm thirsty.

Edit: What? Fuck I should go to bed.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Praeserpium Machinarum on 11 Apr 2006, 03:25
Kindercore: childhood inspired music ranging from deranged to angel sweet.
Bands: Happy Flowers, The Unicorns, Ween, The Innocence Mission, James Superstar Kochalka etc.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Apr 2006, 05:27
My brother's done this already:

http://qntm.org/genres

And he's constantly adding to it. If you have any additions, drop him a line.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Apr 2006, 06:52
That's not really much use though, as it doesn't give any descriptions of the genre.

The only way to really do this well would be to link together lots of spider diagrams like Ishkurs guide, doing it all chronologically, so right at the centre you'd have tribal drumming and jolk and whatnot, then branching out. A lot.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Apr 2006, 07:37
I think you'd have to be very sad, very bored, very lonely or exactly like me to do a list as big as that with descriptions.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: jcknbl on 11 Apr 2006, 08:13
You actually probably need to come up with a definition of "genre". It sounds stupid but otherwise this might literally take forever. Can a genre just refer to the process used to make the music? Just the aesthetic? Just the instrumentation used?

For example
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Kindercore: childhood inspired music ranging from deranged to angel sweet.


I'd say thats an aesthetic not a genre.
Title: degenrefication
Post by: alyosha on 11 Apr 2006, 08:14
Odd, i always thought that one of the goals of indie music was to degenrefy, and concentrate instead on what is good and what isn't.  I've always thought that the best music can trancend genre boundaries.
Title: Re: degenrefication
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Apr 2006, 08:55
Quote from: alyosha
Odd, i always thought that one of the goals of indie music was to degenrefy, and concentrate instead on what is good and what isn't.  I've always thought that the best music can trancend genre boundaries.


The goal of indie music was not to sign to a major label. That's just down the crapper.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: amok on 11 Apr 2006, 09:45
http://www.allmusic.com , "explore by genre" on the left.

Or did I miss something here?
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: jcknbl on 11 Apr 2006, 11:08
The indie thing, I think, is coming up with ridiculous sub-genres that only inlude one band. Ex: Post-gothic psychobilly noise-pop flamenco dance.


I don't know of a band that plays in that genre but they'd be awesome.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: nescience on 11 Apr 2006, 12:47
Allmusic's genres (especially in description) are vague and inchoate, and their coverage of representative artists in many genres is spotty at best.  Their coverage of international genres (even well-known genre like Chanson) is typically American-- in other words, shitty.

Now, Gracenote's 1600 genre hierarchy, on the other hand...

Also:

Quote from: DynamiteKid
My brother's done this already:

http://qntm.org/genres

And he's constantly adding to it. If you have any additions, drop him a line.


Could use more differentiation at international level, as the granularity's a bit spotty in places.   For example, Neue Deutsch Valle is there, but where are other Alpine region musics Schrammelmusik or Alpunk?  And where the hell is Portugal?  And does it make sense to go into such detail as Nederhop when you so broadly apply labels to musics from other foreign countries, like lumping all traditional pop Japanese into "Enka"?  Is "Top 40" even close to being a genre?  Do you see the bias that has already been formed in this seemingly simple genre list?

My point is not to sound like a puffed-up asshole (though that's probably a side effect)-- I want to express that these are the kinds of concerns that pop up when people try to make an all-inclusive genre list and warn about the level of debate the construction of such a list could spur here.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: JLM on 11 Apr 2006, 16:00
Quote from: jcknbl
The indie thing, I think, is coming up with ridiculous sub-genres that only inlude one band. Ex: Post-gothic psychobilly noise-pop flamenco dance.


Or coming up with 50 different genres for a single band.

Side note - whatever music journalist coined the term Math-Rock needs to be tied to a pole back to back with the journalist who coined the term Post-Rock, after which point each will be forced to wear footie pajamas with water moccasins jammed in each leg.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 11 Apr 2006, 16:33
melodic-hard-death-power-core-speed metal

-um....i made this genre up to classify Children of Bodom (not their crummy new album "Are You Dead Yet?" all their good stuff before that)
i realize its silly, verbose, and unecessary but i was drunk when i thought of it and it just stuck in my mind because its so goofy


edit: i did just what the above post was condeming haha. its not really meant to be taken super seriously
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Apr 2006, 16:45
Simplest way to describe CoB is what they are: Harsh Power Metal.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: minkles on 11 Apr 2006, 17:42
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Nerdcore hip hop, or geeksta rap, is a subgenre of hip hop music that is performed by nerds, and is characterized by themes and subject matter considered to be of general interest to nerds. Self-described nerdcore musician MC Frontalot coined the term in 2000 in the song "Nerdcore Hip-Hop." Frontalot, like most nerdcore artists, self-published his work. As a niche genre, nerdcore has a strong amateur tradition of self-publishing and self-production.

Of all nerdcore artists, Frontalot and mc chris are probably the most widely known.

Popular nerdcore subject matter includes Star Wars (Frontalot's "Yellow Lasers", 2 Skinnee J's "Mind Trick", mc chris's "Fett's Vette"), science (MC Hawking's "Entropy", 2 Skinnee J's "Pluto"), and computers. Some non-nerdcore hip hop compositions exist that focus on similar topics.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Kai on 11 Apr 2006, 17:46
mc chris will kick your ass he's so awesome.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: The Hammered on 11 Apr 2006, 18:23
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Cubist funk


Wait, what does Cubism have to do with funk?

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Vomitcore


No comment.

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Intergalactic punk rock hip-hop


Intergalactic?
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Apr 2006, 18:35
Is Intergalactic Punk Rock Hip-Hop anything like Intergalactic Superstar Midi Metal/Space Opera/Deathwave Electro Power Metal?

As I'm pretty sure the first refers to The Beastie Boys, and the latter is the genre sobriquet of Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom, I'll assume not.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: The Hammered on 11 Apr 2006, 19:27
Please tell me that's a real band.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Kai on 11 Apr 2006, 19:35
Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom are totally real:

http://myspace.com/iotmsbod
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Apr 2006, 19:54
Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom - Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom (http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12C2IJWXZ97HI01SM06HO6RSI8)

Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom - Thunderbats of Batsylvania (http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=239NIIO993U6L138P6M9ZDP701)

EDIT: damnation, that would have been so simpler.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Combinethresher on 14 Apr 2006, 16:18
Quote from: jcknbl
The indie thing, I think, is coming up with ridiculous sub-genres that only inlude one band. Ex: Post-gothic psychobilly noise-pop flamenco dance.


I don't know of a band that plays in that genre but they'd be awesome.


Allow me to introduce you to Hola Ghost.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28235365
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Combinethresher on 14 Apr 2006, 16:19
Quote from: jcknbl
The indie thing, I think, is coming up with ridiculous sub-genres that only inlude one band. Ex: Post-gothic psychobilly noise-pop flamenco dance.


I don't know of a band that plays in that genre but they'd be awesome.


Allow me to introduce you to Hola Ghost.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28235365
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Thrillho on 14 Apr 2006, 16:39
Quote from: The Hammered
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Cubist funk


Wait, what does Cubism have to do with funk?


Blame Tom Waits.
Title: Music Genre Index
Post by: Kai on 14 Apr 2006, 16:49
More like Thank him.