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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: KharBevNor on 15 Apr 2006, 20:35
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Okay, so, I have a feeling that I may actually like some dub. This comes from three reasons:
1) Old goth dub remixes. Ie, Alien Sex Fiend - Hurricane Fighter Dub. Not to mention that apparently Bauhaus and ASF and Placebo and a ton of other bands I like are dub-influenced anyway.
2) Skindred and Dub War.
3) Re-playing gta3 recently and totally digging KJAH, which I believe plays dub?
I THINK I'm after dub rather than reggae, though I really have no clear idea how they are delineated. As you can imagine, I'm looking for darker stuff, but with the following provisos in mind:
1) Almost all ska pisses me off. This goes for every wave.
2) I haven't ever really clicked with any of the Bob Marley I've heard, which, admittedly, isn't much.
Anyone got any ideas? If not, just talk about reggae and dub and whatnot and don't mind me, I guess.
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Augustus Pablo is excellent. He turned the melodica, previously just a kid's toy, into quite a respectable instrument capable of leading great songs. There's a Pablo tune on K-Jah, actually, "King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown".
I must heartily recommend the following album:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1e/AugustusPabloEastoftheRiverNile.jpg/200px-AugustusPabloEastoftheRiverNile.jpg)
Poor bastard died of a neuromuscular disease in '99, unfortunately.
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Okay, first things first - are you after modern dub, or dub reggae? Because the stuff that gets called "dub" these days is really quite dissimilar to the original dub, i.e.: dub reggae. Listen to the Mad Professor's No Protection (a complete remix of Massive Attack's Protection album) for some high-quality modern dub. As for the old-school dub, that is dub reggae, check out some Lee Perry. There are masses of albums and compilations out there - just dive in!
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I am not really into reggae and such but
(http://gaffa.dk/uploads/content_images/4/28844_full.jpg)
is dubbish I have been told and it is pretty dark and introspective. Well to some extent, it's not exactly goth-dub either.
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King Tubby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Tubby) OG of dub.
Khar, why are our music tastes so goddamn similar? *stares at his dub records in bewilderment*
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Okay, first things first - are you after modern dub, or dub reggae? Because the stuff that gets called "dub" these days is really quite dissimilar to the original dub, i.e.: dub reggae.
Well, I'm not really sure. That's why I wanted to try and get some suggestions rather than diving in at the wrong thing and get turned off by something that wasn't what I was looking for.
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I'm not sure if you're familiar with any of the man's hip-hop, but Roots Manuva's Dub Come Save Me is a lot of fun.
(http://www.barriomulas.com/music/roots%20manuva%20-%20dub%20come%20save%20me.jpg)
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Kaly Live Dub (http://www.kalylivedub.com/) are my personal favorites. Used to listen to them alot last year. Reminds me of the time me and two good friends of mine got together and jammed some dub for 3 hours. Yay dub jams.
Actually, I hav'nt listened to any good dub lately. If anyone could recommend some good dub groups similar to Kaly Live Dub it'd be cool.
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Who's that Hasidic reggae Jew? He's great.
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Augustus Pablo is the man.
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Who's that Hasidic reggae Jew? He's great.
Matisyahu. And yes.
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I got hold of the album that makes up the gta3 soundtrack (Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires) with the Roots Manuva and some King Tubby following close behind.
So far, good!
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Who's that Hasidic reggae Jew? He's great.
Matisyahu. And yes.
Does he just have the one album? I'm thinking of buying it.
Oh, and everything I've heard by Damian Marley is fucking great.
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There are two, Youth the new one and his debut Shake off the dust... ARISE. However the old one seems to be out of print, it's on some torrents though.
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Well, the big three (IMO) original dub essentials are King Tubby, Scientist and Lee 'Scratch' Perry. Album wise I'd get 'Scientist wins the world cup', The Congos - The Heart of the Congos (Produced by Lee Perry) and pretty much any King Tubby compilation.
The fact that I now share musical taste with you is slightly terrifying, and getting more so if you liked the Roots Manuva album.
Modern wise, you could go digidub, but it's not really my scene, and I don't know much about it. Otherwise, I second Mad Professor vs Massive Attack - No Protection, as it's an amazing album even if you don't like Massive Attack. Or go add some Electronica and listen to Pole. Any album. Or add Post-Rock and try Him - Many in high place's are not well (No, not the retarted 'heartagram' rubbish, different band, same name.)
Or, and this is the option I really recommend, add a bit of the British 'ardkore continuum (Jungle, 2step, etc) and get some Dubstep. Seriously, my favourite genre at the moment. If you want to keep it dark and abrasive then check out Loefah, Vex'd, DJ Distance. Also Burial, Boxcutter, Kode9, Digital Mystikz and Skream.
For the love of God listen to it with the bass turned up REALLY LOUD, or you're going to miss the point entirely. Because the point is bass.
It's pretty hard to find, so try this as a taster:
http://www.barefiles.com/download.php?id=110
It's a Breezeblock show on Radio 1 with 7 mini dubstep mixes and interviews for 2 hours or whatever. It's 102mb, so Dial-up beware.
D1 - Untitled (white)
Mala (Digital Mystikz)
Digital Mystikz - '10 Dread Commandments VIP' (white)
Digital Mystikz - 'Haunted' (white)
Digital Mystikz - 'Left Leg Out' (white)
Skream - 'Request Line' Mala remix (white)
Digital Mystikz - 'All Of A Sudden' (white)
Digital Mystikz - 'Anti-War Dub' (white)
Skream
Skream - 'Midnight Request Line' (Tempa)
Skream - 'Tapped' (Tempa)
Sunship and Warrior Queen - 'Almighty Father' Skream remix (white)
Skream - 'Glamma' (Tempa)
Skream - 'Deep Concentration' (Tempa)
Skream - 'Rottan' (Tempa)
Digital Mystikz - 'Ancient Memories' Skream remix (white)
Horsepower - 'Egypt' (Skream remix) (white)
Skream - 'Music 2 Make Us Stagga' (white)
Kode 9 and Space Ape
Benny Ill, Kode9 & the Culprit - 'Fat Larry Skank' Kode 9 remix (white)
Kode 9 and Space Ape - '9 Samurai' (Hyperdub)
Kode 9 and Space Ape - 'Backward' (Hyperdub)
Kode 9 and Space Ape - 'Kingston Dub' (Hyperdub)
Burial and Space Ape - 'Space Ape' (White)
Vex'd
Vex'd - 'Saturn' (white)
Vex'd - '3rd Choice' (white)
Vex'd - 'Wavescape Remix' (white)
Vex'd - 'Killing Floor' (white)
Hatcha and Crazy D
Benga - Untitled (white)
Benga - Untitled (white)
Coki - Untitled (white)
Coki - Untitled (white)
Coki - Untitled (white)
Skream - 'Request Line' Remix (white)
Benga - Untitled (white)
Benga - Untitled (white)
Benga - Untitled (white)
Digital Mystikz - 'Ancient Memories' Skream remix (white)
Loefah and Sgt. Pokes
Loefah - 'Mud' (white)
Loefah - 'Ruffage' (white)
Loefah - 'Sukkah' (white)
Loefah - 'System' (white)
Loefah - 'Root' (DMZ)
Distance
Distance - 'My Demons' (white)
Distance - 'Fallen' (white)
Distance - 'Tuning' (white)
Distance - 'Cella' (white)
Distance - 'Cyclops' (white)
Distance - 'Night Vision' (white)
Distance - 'Traffic' (white)
DJ Pinch - 'Qawwali' (white)
Listen to that with the biggest subs you can get you're hands on, and hopefully you'll love it.
Actual recs in bold, because I'm awesome.
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Matisyahu = Ugh. The music is pretty good but his fucking annoying, quick, loud, and grating vocals fuck it up.
Lee Perry will always be my favorite. His "Lee Perry dubs Bob Marley" is really good.
Ranking Dread is pretty good..., Keith Hudson, Barrington Levy. Serge Gainsbourg with Bob Marley's back up band is really great on Aux Armes Et Caetera.
I'm a sucker for dub though, if it has version or dub at the end of it, I will probably like it.
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Personally i can't stand dub but alot of my friends seem to be well into it and they've been raving about some cheap-as-chips king tubby collection thats been appearing in record shops recently. Its some kind of 3 disc collection that appears in the background the morning after every damn party i go to.