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Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Apr 2006, 06:50
If it wasn't for that one track souring it.

How many albums do you know of that would be fucking awesome except for one shitty song that just seems to ruin the whole mood? I think the biggest example of this is Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. Reservations is unbearably bad. If it ended with Poor Places, it'd be all but perfect.

Other examples:
Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.

Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon - On The Run. I'm sure it's great when you're stoned. But I'm not. Some would say there's an easier solution to that...mine's cheaper.

Weezer - Pinkerton - No Other One - It's a pretty wracked album, but it's wracked and brilliant. No Other One is borderline unlistenable.

Any other albums like this?
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Post by: TrueNeutral on 17 Apr 2006, 09:15
Pearl Jam - Vitalogy

Except... that has three songs souring it. Pry To, Bugs and Long-title Mamma.

I'd probably love Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth if it wasn't for those annoying storytelling Interludes. Okay, I get it, you read The Silmarillion, now please fuck off with that lame sounding Morgoth act. This probably goes for all Blind Guardian, but I wouldn't know, because this is the only one I've heard so far.
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Post by: tomselleck69 on 17 Apr 2006, 09:19
Quote from: TrueNeutral
I'd probably love Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth if it wasn't for those annoying storytelling Interludes.


same.


every song on the barenaked ladies' stunt is a masterpiece, except for "one week."
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Post by: jcknbl on 17 Apr 2006, 09:22
Beatles-Revolver-Yellow Submarine. Maybe its just me. And its probably awesome if you have a bunch of drunk people singing it. Still, this song is terribly mediocre for the Beatles. I blame Ringo.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 17 Apr 2006, 09:31
Quote from: TrueNeutral
This probably goes for all Blind Guardian, but I wouldn't know, because this is the only one I've heard so far.


Not in my experience.  Nightfall is the only one with the interludes.
Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Apr 2006, 09:59
Quote from: jcknbl
Beatles-Revolver-Yellow Submarine. Maybe its just me. And its probably awesome if you have a bunch of drunk people singing it. Still, this song is terribly mediocre for the Beatles. I blame Ringo.


I agree wholeheartedly there. Revolver was, IMO, their best record outside of that.

And you should blame Lennon and McCartney, because they essentially wrote it to sound EXACTLY like you said it sounds.
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Post by: Misereatur on 17 Apr 2006, 11:18
Quote from: DynamiteKid
Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.


I love that song, cant imagine that album without it.


Anyway, I dont like Pavement's Cut Your Hair from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. I really dont like it, I allway feel like someone injected suger right into that track.
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Post by: karl gambolputty... on 17 Apr 2006, 11:53
I'm with DynamiteKid on the 'Fitter Happier' thing.  

Also, Cat Power's 'You Are Free' would be my favorite of her albums if not for 'Names'.  There is such a thing as taking the sad thing too far.
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Post by: alyosha on 17 Apr 2006, 11:53
Green Day's "American Idiot"-- THe title track
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Apr 2006, 12:15
Transatlanticism without "Passenger Seat", or the long ending of "We Looked Like Giants".

It seems like every Death Cab album has that ONE song with the unneeded two minute breakdown.
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Post by: Omnicide on 17 Apr 2006, 12:38
'We Will Fall' off The Stooge's first album. ten minutes of dreary psychedelia.

Is it me or would Houses of The Holy be Led eppelin's best album if D'yer Maker was replaced with any other track?

Oh and Re-occuring Dreams of Husker Du's Zen Arcade. The 14 minute final track. A wee bit self-indulgent?

Come to think of it, what album doesn't have at least one sub-par track (sparing older albums with only six tracks)? Meh, nothing's flawless.
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Post by: jcknbl on 17 Apr 2006, 12:57
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And you should blame Lennon and McCartney, because they essentially wrote it to sound EXACTLY like you said it sounds.


Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it was written for Ringo and based on something he said on acid. I guess I'll blame everyone but George.

Another album

Elliott Smith- s/t -Alphabet Town: Its not that its unlistenable it just feels like filler. Theres nothing catchy or memorable about it.
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Post by: nobody on 17 Apr 2006, 13:28
Quote from: Omnicide
Come to think of it, what album doesn't have at least one sub-par track (sparing older albums with only six tracks)? Meh, nothing's flawless.


i think the beatles american version of rubber soul is pretty flawless, especially if you get the DESS mono version of it. also nmh's aeroplane over the sea i think is great and cohesive, would be lessened by any track removed

well, mebbe it would flow better without the accordian led untitled instrumental, but i still enjoy it
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Post by: Kid Modernist on 17 Apr 2006, 16:27
The Merry Blues, the first track off of Manu Chao's Proxima Estacion: Esperanza. I always thought the album was much less talented than his first (Clandestino), but I found out if you don't listen to the first song it is a complete continuation of awesomeness.
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Post by: chamberk on 17 Apr 2006, 16:35
I always definitely think that way about Pinkerton and "No Other One".

And I know it's blasphemy, but Sun King is the only song on Abbey Road that I don't actively love.
Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: Kai on 17 Apr 2006, 17:02
Oh please. If there's one song on Abbey Road that needs to die, it's definitely Mr. Octopus' Garden.


also:


Quote from: jcknbl
I guess I'll blame everyone but George.



THis is how it should be. All the time.
Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: PhunkieBehaveYer on 17 Apr 2006, 17:38
Quote from: jcknbl
Beatles-Revolver-Yellow Submarine. Maybe its just me. And its probably awesome if you have a bunch of drunk people singing it. Still, this song is terribly mediocre for the Beatles. I blame Ringo.


I always thought that "For No One" was the week one off Revolver.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 17 Apr 2006, 17:38
Experimental is fine, but just plain stupid stuff to link plot is not.  Good operas have very few stupid bits just for the sake of plot, concept albums should be the same, damnit.  If you can't come up with a good song to say what you want to say, then don't do the goddamned concept album.  Queensryche, I'm looking at you and "Suite Sister Mary."  God damn I dislike that song.  It sounds like an Andrew Lloyd Webber song.
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Post by: Spartan Pho3nix on 17 Apr 2006, 17:50
Quote from: Kai
Oh please. If there's one song on Abbey Road that needs to die, it's definitely Mr. Octopus' Garden.


also:


Quote from: jcknbl
I guess I'll blame everyone but George.



THis is how it should be. All the time.


Bullcrap. Sun King in unbearable. Get rid of that trash and you have a perfect album.
Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: Storm Rider on 17 Apr 2006, 18:03
Testament - The Gathering - Alliegance.

Seriously guys, you were SO CLOSE to finally making an album better than The New Order. So very, very close.
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Post by: Kai on 17 Apr 2006, 18:09
Quote from: Spartan Pho3nix
Quote from: Kai
Oh please. If there's one song on Abbey Road that needs to die, it's definitely Mr. Octopus' Garden.


also:


Quote from: jcknbl
I guess I'll blame everyone but George.



THis is how it should be. All the time.


Bullcrap. Sun King in unbearable. Get rid of that trash and you have a perfect album.


See, I thought Sun King really fit well and I generally don't remember having any beef with it at all. I cringe with Octopus' Garden. I cringe with most of the songs Ringo sings on though.
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Post by: Omnicide on 17 Apr 2006, 23:03
On Abbey Road, I'd take Octopus' Garden over Maxwell's bloody Silver Hammer anyday.
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Post by: Houdinimachine on 17 Apr 2006, 23:50
I love Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

Edit: I had the wrong song. I like everything on Abbey Road except Her Majesty which doesn't belong at all.
Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: beat mouse on 18 Apr 2006, 00:00
Quote from: Storm Rider
Testament - The Gathering - Alliegance.

Seriously guys, you were SO CLOSE to finally making an album better than The New Order. So very, very close.


I wasn't sure how you could say this, but now that i put it on, i realize i zone out everytime it comes on when i listen to the album.

Three 6 Mafia - Intro/Outro/Skit anything that involves Project Pat and DJ Paul trying to advertise their movies and cds. that shit kills every ounce of gangsta mood in the room.
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Post by: Omnicide on 18 Apr 2006, 00:35
Quote from: Houdinimachine
I love Maxwell's Silver Hammer.


GAH!

Worse than Obla-Di-Obla-Blah


Oh and Horse Latitudes off Strange Days by The Doors. It's their best album but what the fuck was THAT?
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Post by: Rubby on 18 Apr 2006, 02:23
Quote from: Houdinimachine
I love Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

Edit: I had the wrong song. I like everything on Abbey Road except Her Majesty which doesn't belong at all.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Are you insane? That song is like the bow on the top of a wonderful present the Beatles have wrapped up for you.
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Post by: Zaarin on 18 Apr 2006, 02:49
Quote from: Omnicide
Oh and Horse Latitudes off Strange Days by The Doors. It's their best album but what the fuck was THAT?


Yes, absolutely. It's Jim Morrison at his pretentious worst.

I think "Flying" from the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour is another weak track. I mean, it's nice, but it's probably for the best that it was one of the only instrumentals the Fab Four ever did.

And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.
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Post by: Luke C on 18 Apr 2006, 03:09
Quote from: DynamiteKid
Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.


I hate that song. why put it on an album?
Title: Re: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: Omnicide on 18 Apr 2006, 03:27
Quote from: Luke C
Quote from: DynamiteKid
Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.


I hate that song. why put it on an album?


It's not a song for fuck's sake, it's an mood piece for the album. No more than 'speak to me' off Dark Side of The Moon is a song. It's a sum-up of the album's themes of isolation and dehmanisation through technology, or something similar. It's not a song, don't listen to it as if it is one. Just listen to the lyrics, it's the track that sums up what tOK COmputer's all about.
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Post by: Hat on 18 Apr 2006, 03:55
Radiohead - Amnesiac - Pulk Pull Revolving Doors:

This is the perfect example of a terrible "song" completely ruining the entire album. I love the first two songs, and the fact that the third is so bad renders the rest of the album totally unlistenable to me, even if I skip the track. There are some songs I quite like afterwards, but I imagine I'd like them more if I didn't have to skip over track 3 every goddamned time

The Beatles - Sgt Peppers - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds:

I actually heard a version of this that didn't totally suck on the radio at work a few years ago. I know it exists. It was awesome. The album version just makes me want to punch people. I dont know where the other version was from. Anyone know about this? Am I crazy?

Also, maybe I'm just weird, but my favorite tracks on Abbey Road are Come Together, Octopusses Garden, and Maxwell Silver Hammer. Just putting that out there, for you jive suckahs.

Spiderbait - Grandslam - By The Time I Get To Howlong

This is my favorite Spiderbait album by far, and a favorite album of all time easily, but this one song bugs me. It's not a terrible song, but it just bugs me how much better it would be if Buster just went straight into Stevie.
Title: Albums that'd be great...
Post by: blanko blanco on 18 Apr 2006, 04:57
I like this topic very much. Makes for a good read.

Offhand I can't think of any albums that fit for me, except I would somewhat agree with the person who said "Cut Your Hair" from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. I usually skip it.
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Post by: alyosha on 18 Apr 2006, 06:41
You know, I didn't post that LSD ruined Sgt. Pepper, because I didn't think anyone would agree.  But the song completely breaks the mood.  I guess it was more an experiment in psychodelia than anything else, though.  As a single, it's not so bad, but it doesn't belong on the album.

I also think that "Octopuses Garden" was a great track. As to the other Beatles songs being criticized--  We have to remember that, though they were an amazing progressive rock band, the Beatles were, first and foremost, a Pop-rock band.  While they chose to experiment, they still tried to stick to their roots.

As to an album that is completely perfect:

I know this band has gotten a lot of flack around here, and I'm not saying that they are the best band ever, or even that the album is all that influential or progressive, but it IS the best flowing, most consistent, best mood-keeping album I've heard in a long time:

TMBG-"Flood"

I'd also like to bring to the table Pearl Jam's "Ten" and Green Day's "Dookie" as good "flow" albums that also completely rock.
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Post by: Praeserpium Machinarum on 18 Apr 2006, 06:57
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium - Cicatriz esp

Too long, too jammy, too forgetable. The rest of the album is ace though and I will fight anyone with a Rambo knife who dare say otherwise ;)
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 Apr 2006, 07:27
Quote from: Omnicide
GAH!

Worse than Obla-Di-Obla-Blah


That's not true. At least it's about something, and is an ironic murder-ballad.

Quote from: Zaarin
I think "Flying" from the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour is another weak track. I mean, it's nice, but it's probably for the best that it was one of the only instrumentals the Fab Four ever did.


That doesn't count, because the aim of this is to establish great albums with one shit track.

Magical Mystery Tour is almost entirely cack.

Quote from: Hat
The Beatles - Sgt Peppers - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds:

I actually heard a version of this that didn't totally suck on the radio at work a few years ago. I know it exists. It was awesome. The album version just makes me want to punch people. I dont know where the other version was from. Anyone know about this? Am I crazy?

Also, maybe I'm just weird, but my favorite tracks on Abbey Road are Come Together, Octopusses Garden, and Maxwell Silver Hammer. Just putting that out there, for you jive suckahs.


I never really liked Lucy either. There's a lot on Sergeant Pepper and The White Album that I'm not too fond of, yet people are always wanking over them.

Quote from: Praeserpium
The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium - Cicatriz esp

Too long, too jammy, too forgetable. The rest of the album is ace though and I will fight anyone with a Rambo knife who dare say otherwise


I have to say, though, if they took out the jammy parts, I think the chorus bit is really good. If they cut out the middle section, then it'd be a great track.
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Post by: Omnicide on 18 Apr 2006, 08:01
Actually, talking about Mars Volta, if you edited all of the white-noise filler out of Frances the Mute it'd probably be an excellent album.

Hmm...flawless flow albums...

Beastie Boys- Paul's Boutique
Curtis Mayfield- Superfly
Iggy & The Stooges- Fun House
Jimi Hendrix- Electric Ladyland
Miles Davis- Kind Of Blue

that's all I've got right now.
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 Apr 2006, 08:18
Quote from: Omnicide
Actually, talking about Mars Volta, if you edited all of the white-noise filler out of Frances the Mute it'd probably be an excellent album.


Absolutely. It's perfectly realised as far as they're concerned, but without the white noise it would be a true classic.
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Post by: mberan42 on 18 Apr 2006, 08:48
Quote from: Zaarin
And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 Apr 2006, 09:05
Quote from: mberan42
Quote from: Zaarin
And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.


Who is the 'you' of 'your'?
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Post by: Zaarin on 18 Apr 2006, 09:08
Quote from: mberan42
Quote from: Zaarin
And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.


Don't get me wrong. I love "Money" as a song, but I think it's placement on Dark Side was a bit of a mistake. You go from this ethereal, spacy type affair to the clinking of cash registers. It just sort of ruins the experience a bit, if you understand me.
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Post by: alyosha on 18 Apr 2006, 09:11
"Money" has my respect for being the only popular song in 7/8 time.  Hence, I'd even say that it's purpose is to NOT fit in with the rest of the somewhat mellow, 4/4 time of most of "Dark Side"  I agree it doesn't fit, but, as could be said of the band itself, its purpose is to NOT fit in...
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Post by: Praeserpium Machinarum on 18 Apr 2006, 09:27
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I have to say, though, if they took out the jammy parts, I think the chorus bit is really good. If they cut out the middle section, then it'd be a great track.


Yep and it is like that on a lot of their tracks, except Take the Veil, Cerpin Taxt. There it seems to work for some odd reason.
I never really listened that much to Frances the Mute, though I will say that The Widow is perhaps the most "straight" song Mars Volta has ever done.

Oh and I thought of one more:

Sonic Youth - EVOL - Bubblegum

The deathpan delivery saves it but essentially it cancels out the impact of Madonna, Sean and Me(aka. Expressway to Yr. Skull).
Which would have been the perfect closer since it is so grand and majestic.
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Post by: onewheelwizzard on 18 Apr 2006, 09:37
"Octopus's Garden" and "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" are two of the sweetest, most utterly delicious pieces of musical candy that exist.  They're not particularly incredible songs in the same fashion as, say, "Tomorrow Never Knows," but they're so bouncy and fun and playful that I won't raise a child without giving him or her these songs to dance to in preschool.

If Abbey Road has a lackluster track, it's definitely "Sun King."  Everything should've just picked right up and started rolling without a break after "Because" and the extra slow track was unnecessary and breaks the flow.
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Post by: mberan42 on 18 Apr 2006, 09:48
Quote from: DynamiteKid
Who is the 'you' of 'your'?

I'd intended it for Zaarin, as he originally said what I questioned, but it was / is open for all.
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Post by: KharBevNor on 18 Apr 2006, 09:49
Danzig - Danzig II: Lucifuge - Blood and Tears

Could have been maybe the best album of Glenn Danzigs whole damn career, then he puts what very well could be a Procul Harem song on it. Not that I dislike Procul Harem, but what?

Black Sabbath - Paranoid - Planet Caravan

Planet Caravan ain't a bad song, but what the hell is it doing on an album as heavy as this? Think about it for a moment, if this song wasn't there, we'd have the following flow of songs:

War Pigs
Paranoid
Iron Man
Electric Funeral
Hand Of Doom

I've taken drugs less awesome than that.

Current 93 - All The Pretty Little Horses - Twilight Twilight Nihil Nihil

I'll spare this song a lot of grief, as the (completely) different version of it they used to start Cats Drunk on Copper is absolutely amazing. However, the original is just eight and a half minutes of post-industrial masturbation sitting in the middle of a great neo-folk album.

Edge of Sanity - Purgatory Afterglow - Song of Sirens

Edge of Sanitys worst track ever. This includes the hardcore punk song they wrote and recorded in one evening all smashed on vodka, their Police cover, and the techno remix of Angels of Distress.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 18 Apr 2006, 10:30
Quote from: Bastardous Bassist
Experimental is fine, but just plain stupid stuff to link plot is not.  Good operas have very few stupid bits just for the sake of plot, concept albums should be the same, damnit.  If you can't come up with a good song to say what you want to say, then don't do the goddamned concept album.  Queensryche, I'm looking at you and "Suite Sister Mary."  God damn I dislike that song.  It sounds like an Andrew Lloyd Webber song.


Disagree. Strongly. I think Suite Sister Mary is perfect and way better than Andrew ever was. I feel it's needed and that it belongs.

But, from the same year and another concept album:

Iron Maiden: 7th son of a 7th son ... Can I play with madness. What is that 'written for single' thingy doing on such an awesome album? It feels a lot like having an ABBA song in the middle of Kill 'Em All. It's just wrong ...
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 Apr 2006, 11:42
Quote from: alyosha
"Money" has my respect for being the only popular song in 7/8 time.  Hence, I'd even say that it's purpose is to NOT fit in with the rest of the somewhat mellow, 4/4 time of most of "Dark Side"  I agree it doesn't fit, but, as could be said of the band itself, its purpose is to NOT fit in...


Money is in 7/4, and I think Eclipse is actually in 6/8.

Not on Dark Side, but in the Floyd catalogue in general, 6/8 is at least as equally used as 4/4.

And there's a song on the new Hundred Reasons album where the chorus is in 7/8, though the verse is 4/4.

Plus, getting back to the Beatles, Love Is All You Need is in 7/8...
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Post by: Merkava on 18 Apr 2006, 13:21
Quote from: Valley_Parade
Transatlanticism without "Passenger Seat", or the long ending of "We Looked Like Giants".

It seems like every Death Cab album has that ONE song with the unneeded two minute breakdown.


Disagree completely. What would make the album great would be getting rid of Sound of Settling. That song sucks and ruins the beautiful melancholy of the album.

I think The Dears No Cities Left would be awesome without Lost in the Plot.
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Post by: PhunkieBehaveYer on 18 Apr 2006, 13:29
The only thing that could make Illinois any better would be getting rid of "The Seer's Tower."
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Post by: drpepper_phd on 18 Apr 2006, 15:25
Quote from: PhunkieBehaveYer
The only thing that could make Illinois any better would be getting rid of "The Seer's Tower."


Seconded.

I also think that The New Pornographer's Twin Cinema would be much, MUCH better without "Three or Four." I can only stand hearing "Three or four hourglass" so many times before I kick a dog.
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Post by: Merkava on 18 Apr 2006, 15:55
Quote from: PhunkieBehaveYer
The only thing that could make Illinois any better would be getting rid of "The Seer's Tower."


Are you kidding? That had some beautiful vocal work. It gives me chills each time I listen to it. What song could be removed is that last track. Boring, no point, just...bleh. I usually skip through the instrumentals anyway, but I shouldn't skip over a closer.

I think the last 3/4 of Lounge (Closing Time) by Modest Mouse is the only weak moment on Lonesome. I think if they had taken that out and replaced it with more of that beginning, the album wouldn't loose any momentum until when it should, at Trucker's Atlas.  

Oh, and Moon and Antarctica should have Different City, Wild Pack of Family Dogs, and Tiny Cities in favor of some tracks from Nasty Parlour Tricks. I would have preferred hearing Night on the Sun, Here it Comes, or You're the Good Things to those blah tracks.
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Post by: Storm Rider on 18 Apr 2006, 17:06
Quote from: BeoPuppy
Iron Maiden: 7th son of a 7th son ... Can I play with madness. What is that 'written for single' thingy doing on such an awesome album? It feels a lot like having an ABBA song in the middle of Kill 'Em All. It's just wrong ...


High five!
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Post by: minkles on 18 Apr 2006, 18:46
I have a lot.  Dunno if these have been said before:

Neutral Milk Hotel- On Avery Island- Pree-Sisters Swallowing a Donkeys Eye: 14 minutes, and no substance.  Just noise.  Fantastic.

Belle and Sebastian- If You're Feeling Sinister- The Boy Done Wrong Again:  This song is whiny and painful to listen to.

Modest Mouse- Good News for People Who Love Bad News- This Devil's Workday:  It's like they're trying to suck, to piss off their fans.

They Might Be Giants- Factory Showroom- I Can Hear You:  What is the point of this song?  Does it matter if you recorded it at "Edison Laboratory"?  No.  It sucks.

Rilo Kiley- More Adventurous- Ripchord:  More Adventurous was actually a mediocre album, but I just wanted to point out how bad 'Ripchord' is.  It actually makes me miss the days when Blake Sennett thought he was Elliott Smith.

Modest Mouse-Building Nothing out of Something- Workin' on Leavin' the Living:  In heaven... everything is fine.  In heaven... everything's alright.  Repeated for 6 minutes of the track's 6 minutes and 40 seconds.  It's very annoying.

The New Pornographers- Twin Cinema- Three or Four: Someone mentioned this.  I concur.


By the way, did you know "7/4 (Shoreline)" by Broken Social Scene is in 7/4?  You learn something every day.
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Post by: Gryff on 18 Apr 2006, 19:11
Quote from: Hat
I actually heard a version of [Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds] that didn't totally suck on the radio at work a few years ago. I know it exists. It was awesome. The album version just makes me want to punch people. I dont know where the other version was from. Anyone know about this? Am I crazy?


It was by William Shatner!
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Post by: jcknbl on 18 Apr 2006, 20:15
Quote from: Merkava

Oh, and Moon and Antarctica should have Different City, Wild Pack of Family Dogs, and Tiny Cities in favor of some tracks from Nasty Parlour Tricks. I would have preferred hearing Night on the Sun, Here it Comes, or You're the Good Things to those blah tracks.


I agree Wild Pack of Family Dogs is a weak track but Different City and Tiny Cities are both excellent tracks. In any case,  they're part of the album. You can't just throw in random songs from previous albums -Moon and Antarctica wasn't a greatest hits record. Even Wild Pack of Family Dogs is really just a short transition between the darker and colder section of the album (The Cold Part through The Stars are Projectors) and the more bittersweet but optimistic ending.

Taking out those songs would just make it a different album entirely.
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Post by: blanko blanco on 18 Apr 2006, 20:47
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Rilo Kiley- More Adventurous- Ripchord:  More Adventurous was actually a mediocre album, but I just wanted to point out how bad 'Ripchord' is.  It actually makes me miss the days when Blake Sennett thought he was Elliott Smith.


What's funny is that I hate Rilo Kiley and find them bland with very little substance, but Ripchord is probably the only Rilo Kiley song I even sort of like.
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Post by: Staralfur on 18 Apr 2006, 22:48
I believe Those To Come by The Shins is the worst ending to a good album ever. Maybe if it was the first one or something...

Also, on The Soft Bulletin by The Flaming Lips, The Observer is pretty lame.

Late Ninties Bedroom Rock For The Missionaries by Broken Social Scene from You Forgot It In People is pretty uncool too.

Grendel by Sunny Day Real Estate on Diary. It's not art, it's just useless.

Malediction by Stephen Malkmus on Face The Truth. I haven't listened to all of this and I don't like it.

This Place Is a Prison by The Postal Service on Give Up. The only reason this track doesn't completley suck is that there's that cool drum riff that comes in. Otherwise, boring.

5-4=Unity by Pavement on Crooked Rain.

The Bagman's Gambit by The Decemberists on Picaresque.

I could go on and on...
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Post by: blanko blanco on 18 Apr 2006, 23:44
I think 5-4=Unity is a pretty cool song. At least they didn't make the mistake they could have of stretching it out way longer than it needed to be. It's short and sweet.
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Post by: jcknbl on 19 Apr 2006, 05:27
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This Place Is a Prison by The Postal Service on Give Up. The only reason this track doesn't completley suck is that there's that cool drum riff that comes in. Otherwise, boring.
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If "not boring" is the standard for a good Postal Service song then they're pretty fucked.
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Post by: pip_helix on 19 Apr 2006, 08:21
i wanna know who was the mental giant behind the room noises version of "telescope eyes."

i just saw eisley a few weeks ago, which prompted me to actually buy the cd. much to my disappointment, some genius decided it'd be a good idea to take ALL the verses out of the song. sure, the instrumentation is fuller, the vocal quality is better, but wtf at having next to no words.

(solution - burn a new copy, replacing the short version with the original. much better.)
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Post by: Misereatur on 19 Apr 2006, 09:42
Anathema  - Childhood Dream form the album A Natural Disaster. What the hell? It ruins the flow of this otherwise brilliant album. I allway skip that song.
I mean, an instrumental song woukd fit perfect there, but not that one.
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Post by: Staralfur on 19 Apr 2006, 10:32
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If "not boring" is the standard for a good Postal Service song then they're pretty fucked.


I think I've just been told. :[
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Post by: Misereatur on 19 Apr 2006, 12:19
OH NOS!
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Post by: Merkava on 19 Apr 2006, 15:49
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Oh, and Moon and Antarctica should have Different City, Wild Pack of Family Dogs, and Tiny Cities in favor of some tracks from Nasty Parlour Tricks. I would have preferred hearing Night on the Sun, Here it Comes, or You're the Good Things to those blah tracks.


I agree Wild Pack of Family Dogs is a weak track but Different City and Tiny Cities are both excellent tracks. In any case,  they're part of the album. You can't just throw in random songs from previous albums -Moon and Antarctica wasn't a greatest hits record. Even Wild Pack of Family Dogs is really just a short transition between the darker and colder section of the album (The Cold Part through The Stars are Projectors) and the more bittersweet but optimistic ending.

Taking out those songs would just make it a different album entirely.


The reason I noted that previous EP is because those songs are from the recording of TMAA. Plus, a lot of them fit. As for Different City, that guitar part is so uber-shitty and Tiny Cities is...really cheesey. The songs just don't sit right with me, and I only to those songs as a source of laughs. They make the album inconsistant, IMO. The second half (Cold Part onwards) >>>>>>>> the first half, even if that section had Perfect Disguise.
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Post by: Injektilo on 19 Apr 2006, 16:40
I like "Three or Four," but apparently that's not a common sentiment.

Belle & Sebastian's The Boy With The Arab Strap would be much better without "A Space Boy Dream."  Though the album seems as though most people wouldn't like it regardless. wut ev4r.

Elliott Smith's Either/Or could do without "Cupid's Trick" for me...or at least it could be moved so that it would flow from "Angeles" directly into "2:45 AM".  That's real nitpicky, though.

Clinic's Internal Wrangler without "Goodnight Georgie" would be nice.  I'd like it to end on "2nd Foot Stomp" and have "2/4" before that.
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Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 19 Apr 2006, 16:48
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Oh and Horse Latitudes off Strange Days by The Doors. It's their best album but what the fuck was THAT?


are you kidding? i love that song. it was a poem he wrote in highschool and then just added some sound effects and shit. i think its awesome. it comes at the perfect time in the album and everything. the song right before leads into it really good and the song that follows it hits just right at just the right time.
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Post by: Melodic on 20 Apr 2006, 22:52
The Postal Service- Give Up- Natural Anthem

Very much like what Valley Parade said waay back on page 1; Natural Anthem felt very long, and the vocals (when it does get to that, about 3 minutes in) feels rushed and anti-climactic.
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Post by: Johnny C on 20 Apr 2006, 22:58
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It was by William Shatner!


MISTER TAMBOURINE mANn!

EDIT: Feist could have easily dropped "Inside And Out" from Let It Die.
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Post by: Snail of Doom on 21 Apr 2006, 12:59
Mine:
Daft Punk - Discovery - "Nightvision"
Meh. Just feels like filler. No real reason to exist.
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Post by: TrueNeutral on 21 Apr 2006, 13:14
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Modest Mouse- Good News for People Who Love Bad News- This Devil's Workday:  It's like they're trying to suck, to piss off their fans.


I absolutely adore that track. I think it's hilarious. Makes me break out into insane grinning and random dance moves every time.

If there's any track on that album that needs to be taken off, it's Dance Hall.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 21 Apr 2006, 15:38
Another one: Countdown To Extinction by Megadeth. Good album, makes some nice points great songs ... and then there is Psychotron.

Any song that starts with the sound of a camera zooming out and in again is doomed. But this sound is there to make a point about a cyborg-thingy that fights a lot, apparently.

And this next to:
Skin O'my Teeth, Symphony Of Destruction, Architecture Of Aggression, Foreclosure Of A Dream, Sweating Bullets, This Was My Life, Countdown To Extinction, Ashes In Your Mouth ...

Just hideous.
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Post by: Thrillho on 21 Apr 2006, 16:02
It wasn't a great album; it was a good album. The Battle Of Los Angeles could stand to drop 'Mic Check.' I think the rest of it was good enough.
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Post by: Merkava on 25 Apr 2006, 12:48
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Modest Mouse- Good News for People Who Love Bad News- This Devil's Workday:  It's like they're trying to suck, to piss off their fans.


I absolutely adore that track. I think it's hilarious. Makes me break out into insane grinning and random dance moves every time.

If there's any track on that album that needs to be taken off, it's Dance Hall.


Agreed. As much as I love Brock's rythmic yelling (Doin' the Cockroach, the beginning of Lounge(closing time)), it just gets grating in Dance Hall.