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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Thrillho on 19 Apr 2006, 06:21
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Surely everyone here has a few bands in their collection that they only really need a best of for. Most people I know have the Queen Greatest Hits, but I prefer to have the studio albums for them.
The guys that I just want Best Of collections for are R.E.M. (I own In Time) and The Pogues (The Essential Collection w/Live at Brixton Academy 2001) and I plan on getting a Marvin Gaye collection. The only Nirvana CD I physically own is the self-titled collection, though I plan on getting the Unplugged CD because I've always loved it.
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Alice In Chains Music Bank
OH WAIT THAT IS ALMOST ALL ALICE IN CHAINS
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I think Hillary Duff is coming out with a Greatest Hits CD.
I'm totally picking that up next time I'm at the store.
and I'm a 14 year old girl.
With bad taste.
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I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I can think of TONS of bands I would never buy the "Best Of" for because... well... their best of isn't their best of at all. It's their singles... And, a lot of bands have crappy singles and awesome B-Sides. Read: Barenaked Ladies.
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Garth Brooks. He has his good'uns, and he has his complete and utter shit ones.
And somewhat off-topic but somewhat not, after Smashmouth's AstroLounge, I've gotta be quite frank with you, a greatest-hits album would be the worst thing you could possibly do to mankind.
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I never buy best-ofs. My C.D. collection is pure.
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Back when I was ignorant of the delicate art of CD collecting (that is, about five years ago, when I was 13), I bought two best of CDs: Bob Marley and Sting. The Bob Marley one is basically just Exodus with a few extra tracks and a single unavailable on CD elsewhere. It was actually almost worth the $20 for that single ("I Know a Place"), it is really goddamned good.
The Sting one has "Russians" and "Englishman in New York", which used to be two of my all time favourite songs.
Nowdays I try to avoid buying compilations, particularly greatest hits type affairs. I sort of feel like it's a cop out: buying just the one CD instead of the original albums. Though it is considerably cheaper, I suppose.
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Motorhead - The Very Best of Motorhead.
Because it really does have almost every great track they've ever done, and a lot of interesting side-material, which endeared it to me (A Hawkwind and a Headgirl track, and Girlschools cover of bomber, for example.)
The only other best ofs I own are Edward the Great, because I was once dumb, and Echoes - The Best of Pink Floyd, which I bought back when I only had a CD walkman, as it had almost all my favourite Pink Floyd tracks on and I could not be arsed to get their entire collection on cd (I have Floyds discog in vinyl.)
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I just want Best Of collections for are R.E.M.
you'd be missing out. the first nine albums are almost flawless. in fact, they are flawless except for 'green' being a bit dull and 'monster' being inconsistent.
R.E.M. are a band I would consister spilling out of the BEST OF thing for. But I have so much music I want to buy at the moment that since I'm quite happy with just In Time, I'll leave them for a while.
I want Shiny Happy People :-D
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Stiff Little Fingers have a 3 CD 'best of' with 45 tracks. All the angry Irish punk you'll ever need.
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Swervedriver - Juggernaut Rides `86-`98 covers just about everything you'd want to hear from the band.
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I argued in a review I once wrote that while many would be happy to have their singles, No Doubt only requires ownership of a singles comp (and not their albums) for all but their most hardcore fans. I might be biased.
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AC/DC. Of course they have a "best of" album out. Just go to the AC/DC section in your record store and buy the first album you see.
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I also have Maiden's Edward The Great, because it has all of my favorite Maiden tracks. I also own A Real Live One.
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While I do own a few of his albums I think a Beck 2-Disc Greatest Hits would be very, very good.
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If we're talking about a hypothetical person who has no 'favorite' bands, and just wants to buy a bunch of Best Of's (sorry, Anthologies), to see if any catch his/her ear:
Talking Head's Once in a Lifetime (Greatest compilation EVER)
The Pixies' Death to the Pixies
Joy Division's Permanent
Ultimate Run DMC
Yo La Tengo's Prisoners of Love
and B.B. King's Anthology
For anyone else, it really depends on what they like (IMHO).
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Talking Head's Once in a Lifetime
Ultimate Run DMC
Tis' true
Ah- almost forgot: Super Furry Animals' Songbook. Delirious psychedlic indie that puts the Flaming Lips to shame.
Hmm...will Aphex Tiwn ever put out a best-off?
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The Pixies' Death to the Pixies
I'd say the Wave of Mutilation compilation makes Death to the Pixies rather redundant.
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Joy Division's Permanent
There is a Joy Division 'Best Of' album. Fairly good.
Nothing like the real thing though
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I just want Best Of collections for are R.E.M.
you'd be missing out. the first nine albums are almost flawless. in fact, they are flawless except for 'green' being a bit dull and 'monster' being inconsistent.
i really dislike 'best of' as a phrase. let's say 'anthology', so i don't start to weep. honestly though, there are two 'anthologies' i would recommend -
'staring at the sea' by the cure. (great singles band, terrible terrible albums)
'march to fuzz' by mudhoney (a fairly good band makes a great compilation. second disc especially)
REM is one of those great bands whose best songs are their least known. "Track 11" on Green, for instance, or 'Don't go Back to Rockville". Anything off of any of their early albums. I really liked Green, it's still my Low-Key-Driving CD. Automatic For the People is a masterful album. Monster, I agree is a bit inconsistent, and just not very good.
As to the Cure: What Cure albums are you listening to? "Bloodflowers" is a great album. "Disintegration" has its weak spots. THeir Best of just doesn't cut it, though, I'd rather make my own mix.
I, too, usually stay away from Best of Compilations, but some are just well-produced albums-- Like Aerosmiths "Big Ones"
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I'd say the Wave of Mutilation compilation makes Death to the Pixies rather redundant.
I'm afraid you are incorrect good sah. Death to the Pixies has two discs over Wave's one, the second of which is all live, and I don't think Wave has a single live cut (I could be wrong on that, but whatever). Death to the Pixies is by far the superior collection. The live version of Hey, where the audience sings along, is the greatest thing ever recorded.
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I'm afraid you are incorrect good sah. Death to the Pixies has two discs over Wave's one, the second of which is all live, and I don't think Wave has a single live cut (I could be wrong on that, but whatever). Death to the Pixies is by far the superior collection. The live version of Hey, where the audience sings along, is the greatest thing ever recorded.
But that's only the special 2 disc edition. The normal one is basically Wave of Mutilation with less tracks. That 2nd disc does rock though.
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If we're talking about a hypothetical person who has no 'favorite' bands, and just wants to buy a bunch of Best Of's (sorry, Anthologies), to see if any catch his/her ear:
Er...we aren't, but okay!
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The Clash.
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If we're talking about a hypothetical person who has no 'favorite' bands, and just wants to buy a bunch of Best Of's (sorry, Anthologies), to see if any catch his/her ear:
Er...we aren't, but okay!
Maybe I put it wrong. Perhaps an example will make it clearer: If you hate hip-hop, and have no desire at all to listen to it, then Run DMC is not a band who you only really need to own a Best Of for. If you do like hip-hop, (or just don't hate it), it is. If you LOVE hip-hop, then Run DMC is a band all of whose albums you need to own. See?
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No I understood what you meant, but the thread didn't really have a purpose, was just me bemusedly wondering whose Best Ofs I owned.
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Sweet. After all my high-falutin' that's exactly what I did too.
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There is a Joy Division 'Best Of' album. Fairly good.
I'm ninety percent sure you're talking about Substance, which covers singles and a bunch of b-sides. It's a good primer, I'd say.
Aphex Twin - sorry, AFX, rather - put out a best-of of its 2005 11-vinyl (yikes!) series recently. So, that seems like it might be an okay investment.
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There's also JD's HeartandSoul, which is pretty much everything they ever recorded.
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There is a Joy Division 'Best Of' album. Fairly good.
I'm ninety percent sure you're talking about Substance, which covers singles and a bunch of b-sides. It's a good primer, I'd say.
But it's not worthy of the name 'Best Of' when it's not got anything from Closer on it.
Heart and Soul doesn't really count because it contains like, EVERYTHING they ever did, so defeats the object of the thread.
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AC/DC. Of course they have a "best of" album out. Just go to the AC/DC section in your record store and buy the first album you see.
BA DUM TSH
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Substance is not so much a "best of" and more of a "singles collection", and thus it makes a good companion to Closer and Unknown Pleasures.
Singles Going Steady by The Buzzcocks is another singles collection that is pretty much a must-own.
Generally I am not a fan of the best of thing and I prefer my music in complete albums, but I am okay with the singles collection idea because they often include songs that you can't find on albums. Still, I do own a couple of best ofs: the Blur best of, and Frank Zappa's Strictly Commercial (sorry Kai!).
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I argued in a review I once wrote that while many would be happy to have their singles, No Doubt only requires ownership of a singles comp (and not their albums) for all but their most hardcore fans. I might be biased.
The way I look at it, a singles compilation is a very different beast from a "best-of". A best-of is basically somebody picking what they think the most popular songs will be, and are rarely representative of the band. A complete singles collection, on the other hand, can give the listener a very good overview of the band's history and how they changed over time. An excellent example (and one that I've mentioned frequently on this forum in the past) is Fossil Fuel: the X.T.C. Singles 1977-92 (current and up-to-date when it was released).
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The Smiths singles collection is also really brilliant.
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Ahh I got it!
The only band that comes to mind is Big Audio Dynamite's greatest hits album which pretty much has all the stuff of theirs I want.
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Substance is not so much a "best of" and more of a "singles collection", and thus it makes a good companion to Closer and Unknown Pleasures.
Yes, of course. My point was it's not really very good as the be-all and end-all of your collection.
Singles Going Steady by The Buzzcocks is another singles collection that is pretty much a must-own.
Well Buzzcocks always were a singles band, like the Cure.
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The Smiths singles collection is also really brilliant.
But I prefer the Best Of... series
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Well, I hate to break it to you, E. Spaceman, but your opinion is WRONG!
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and Frank Zappa's Strictly Commercial (sorry Kai!).
Ach! You should have totally boughten the 50+ albums instead!
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EVERYONE MUST BUY HAWKWIND'S ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY.
YOU HAVE UNTIL 2084.
Also, if anyone knows the significance of that year, they get 5 million awesome points
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How many Zappa albums do you own, Kai?
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Swervedriver - Juggernaut Rides `86-`98 covers just about everything you'd want to hear from the band.
Ack..cough..no. Mezcal Head is a very worthwhile purchase. Though the above comp does have a large number of previously vinyl-only E.P. tracks.
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* counts off fingers *
Greenday, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, AC/DC, Machine Gun Fellatio, The Cat Empire, The Darkness, Spiderbait and R.E.M. Oh, and Billy Joel (yes, I like him).
U2, The Living End, Grinspoon and Oasis are ones that you *should* have a "Best Of" compilation, but really they can't be compressed into one album. So maybe you oughta have two or three.
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I disagree!
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What with and how so?
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Just in general. He's a contrarian.
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Well, I could be more specific. If you're into that.
I would say that Nick Cave and REM cannot possibly be done justice in a best of, and I would say that most of your other choices do not deserve one!
Well, that's probably a bit harsh, but why would anyone need a Grinspoon best of? Or the Darkness, for that matter.
Anyway, what it boils down to is that my taste in music is much better than yours.
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Motorhead - The Very Best of Motorhead.
Because it really does have almost every great track they've ever done, and a lot of interesting side-material, which endeared it to me (A Hawkwind and a Headgirl track, and Girlschools cover of bomber, for example.)
What the hell ass lame copy of The Very Best of Motorhead do I own? Mine doesn't have any covers of Bomber, or the like.
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Well, I hate to break it to you, E. Spaceman, but your opinion is WRONG!
OK, MUSIC FIGHT IS Go!!!!!!!!!!!!! (since we are talking about The Smiths this will be a match fought with handbags)
The Best of series includes every single song in the Singles album and more, incuding the unedited version of Rubber Ring, so clearly my opinion is better.
I've got a summary for you Gryff:
1.- I'm right
2.- You eat dong
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Yes, but the Singles has far better sequencing and the most essential tracks. If you want all the obscure tracks then you just need to get Louder Than Bombs to complement the albums.
As a summary of their career, the Singles works better.
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Well, I could be more specific. If you're into that.
I would say that Nick Cave and REM cannot possibly be done justice in a best of, and I would say that most of your other choices do not deserve one!
Well, that's probably a bit harsh, but why would anyone need a Grinspoon best of? Or the Darkness, for that matter.
Anyway, what it boils down to is that my taste in music is much better than yours.
I'll conceed that the Darkness are a fairly cheap musical joke, but that's precisely the point. Provided that you take them no more seriously than they take themselves, they're entertaining. As for Grinspoon; well, there's no accounting for taste. True, listening to them too much does seem less pleasant than a mind-blowing threesome with hot models, but one or two songs are enjoyable. Provided they were included on the "Best Of" album it would be worth having.
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds... having recently purchased a "Best Of" album, I feel qualified to say that this CD meets my Nick Cave needs quite nicely. And a good "Best Of" mix would do justice to REM if it was done properly.
In conclusion, the question of whose musical taste is better falls to a matter of opinion, and cannot be conclusively argued here. I will be satisfied with the easily percievable facts, such as:
1 - My genitals are more favourably proportioned than yours.
2 - I am more intelligent and also more attractive to the opposite sex.
3 - It is highly likely that you fornicate with rubber and/or metallic phalluses on a daily basis.
4 - Neener neener neener.
Thank you for you time.
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5. You like Oasis, so all previous points must be discounted.
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Yes, but the Singles has far better sequencing and the most essential tracks. If you want all the obscure tracks then you just need to get Louder Than Bombs to complement the albums.
As a summary of their career, the Singles works better.
Yah, you are right, I'm just bitter Reel Around the Fountain was never a single. That and that they haven't issued a $50 Japan only Best of with Paint a Vulgar Picture as a bonus track.
On Oasis:
Their Best of should go:
1.- Helter Skelter (live)
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There really does need to be decent Smiths B-sides compilation. You always end up getting hundreds of double-ups trying to collect them all.
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5. You like Oasis, so all previous points must be discounted.
Dear Lord.
Liking Oasis is grounds for discounting logical statements? My good Gryff, many of their songs are classics; such concepts as "Good" and "Bad" do not enter the equation. These songs simply ARE, and their being is enough.
I cannot believe you are going to sit there and honestly tell me that you have no place in your heart for anything by Oasis. That you have never sat around a campfire with friends and a guitar singing Wonderwall. That you have never sat and enjoyed the sounds of Stop Crying Your Heart Out. That you have never sung along with Breakfast At Tiffany's and laughed afterwards at how foolish it sounded, yet still enjoyed the song in a deep dark corner of your heart.
Any individual who could say such things HAS NO SOUL, let alone any business making critical remarks of my own taste in music.
I bid you good day and wash my hands of this.
For shame.
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I disagree!
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I shouldn't have to live in a world where that statement - a REPETITION of that statemtent, no less - is able to conclusively win an argument.
Curse you, Gryff!
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Gryff has the distinction of not being in England, which makes him invulnerable to the mysterious spell of Oasis.
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...I'm in Australia, you know...
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Same thing...
And I like Oasis and I live in America.
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Well then there is something wrong with you guys.
If you are not British, there is no reason to listen to Oasis.
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Same thing...
And I like Oasis and I live in America.
Oh, please. Australia has more in common with America than it does England, and America has more in common with England than it does Australia. The only things England and Australia have in common are the sports that we Aussies consistently beat them at, and the fact that both countries know how to spell properly.
Rule #1 for dealing with Australians: NEVER EVER ACCUSE THEM OF BEING LIKE THE ENGLISH.
I have a few English friends and they're cool. But speaking as a nation, this is almost as offensive as saying that Aussies are like New Zealanders.
Frigging Kiwis.
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If you are not British, there is no reason to listen to Oasis.
there's no reason for Brits to listen to them either, they're a pack of derivative fuckwits. A Best of Oasis CD would probably be about ten seconds long.
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Well, that's obvious, but you try telling British people that Oasis are shit.
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Also, if anyone knows the significance of that year, they get 5 million awesome points
We carried on down the road we chose
The path of nevermore
The journey ends, the book is closed
2084...
The best Hawkwind best-of I've ever seen is Master Of The Universe. They have a LOT of best-ofs though. Natural by-product of having so many albums and live recordings liscensed to so many different record labels.
Also, how come people in foreign lands jerk off over Oasis so hard? Did we never manage to export Pulp? If you must listen to brit-pop (hereafter referred to as 'the musically vacuous demon that destroyed all British music forever') at least listen to the good stuff.
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Even though I like Blur, I'm of the opinion that their best stuff is far enough ahead of their usual work to warrant only buying their Best Of.
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Khar, you are already off the awesome chart. Don't hog all the points.
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Kansas is the only best of album I've ever heard that was worth listening to as an album in its own right, without owning any of the other albums.
The Beatles 1 is also pretty good at covering the best of their old stuff, considering I dont own anything before Revolver, and can't really be bothered looking for it.
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Oh, please. Australia has more in common with America than it does England, and America has more in common with England than it does Australia. The only things England and Australia have in common are the sports that we Aussies consistently beat them at, and the fact that both countries know how to spell properly.
Rule #1 for dealing with Australians: NEVER EVER ACCUSE THEM OF BEING LIKE THE ENGLISH.
I have a few English friends and they're cool. But speaking as a nation, this is almost as offensive as saying that Aussies are like New Zealanders.
Frigging Kiwis.
Which is why I said it... was just joshin. I lub my Aussie brothers and sisters.
I secretly have a man crush on Ben Lee....
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Concrete Blonde,
The Misfits (Danzig era only)
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How many Zappa albums do you own, Kai?
A good most of them. I don't havesome of his more recent ones though, and I never bothered to buy any of the ones they really released after his death (Save for Civilization: Phase III). So yeah.
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5. You like Oasis, so all previous points must be discounted.
Dear Lord.
Liking Oasis is grounds for discounting logical statements? My good Gryff, many of their songs are classics; such concepts as "Good" and "Bad" do not enter the equation. These songs simply ARE, and their being is enough.
I cannot believe you are going to sit there and honestly tell me that you have no place in your heart for anything by Oasis. That you have never sat around a campfire with friends and a guitar singing Wonderwall. That you have never sat and enjoyed the sounds of Stop Crying Your Heart Out.
That being a terrible song from their worst album?
That you have never sung along with Breakfast At Tiffany's and laughed afterwards at how foolish it sounded, yet still enjoyed the song in a deep dark corner of your heart.
Er, that's not by Oasis.
And I agree that Nick Cave's albums, like, say, Bob Dylan, are too varied and widespread to be summed up in a Best of, especially since the Best of doesn't have anything from his post-2001 work on it.
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Even though I like Blur, I'm of the opinion that their best stuff is far enough ahead of their usual work to warrant only buying their Best Of.
The Blur Best of is fairly well compiled, although there's a couple of omissions - Popscene, Chemical World - that I disagree with, and a couple of inclusions - Music Is My Radar, On Your Own - that I disagree with.
On Oasis:
Their Best of should go:
1.- Helter Skelter (live)
Their version of that song is fucking terrible.
Gryff has the distinction of not being in England, which makes him invulnerable to the mysterious spell of Oasis.
It's not like America is immune to the 'only our country likes this stuff' thing.
You guys have country music. And Bruce Springsteen.
The Beatles 1 is also pretty good at covering the best of their old stuff, considering I dont own anything before Revolver, and can't really be bothered looking for it.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many people worship the Beatles' experimental stuff, and that so many people seem to think that Magical Mystery Tour is such a good album, and have never heard the pre-Revolver stuff properly. Help! is an almost perfect pop album, Rubber Soul is brilliant...and the singles between '63-65 pretty much can't be touched.
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Wait, people exist who like the Beatles and don't like Rubber Soul? What? That makes no sense to me. No sense at all. Anyone who claims to enjoy the music of the Beatles has no business not loving Rubber Soul. Their songwriting was never better than on that album (arguable exception: Run For Your Life)
And Magical Mystery Tour is a good album in its own right. The last 4 tracks are some of the best they ever did ... and I can understand if you don't like "I Am The Walrus," but I think it's awesome.
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If we're talking about a hypothetical person who has no 'favorite' bands, and just wants to buy a bunch of Best Of's (sorry, Anthologies), to see if any catch his/her ear:
Talking Head's Once in a Lifetime (Greatest compilation EVER)
It's gorgeous set (I needed it for the videos), but it's a bit pricey for someone who'd be looking just to catch their drift. I think Sand in the Vaseline would be better suited for something like that, or even The Name Of This Band even though it's not really a compilation.
As for best of only arists.. the only one that comes to mind is ABBA [Gold].
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Wait, people exist who like the Beatles and don't like Rubber Soul? What? That makes no sense to me. No sense at all. Anyone who claims to enjoy the music of the Beatles has no business not loving Rubber Soul. Their songwriting was never better than on that album (arguable exception: Run For Your Life)
And Magical Mystery Tour is a good album in its own right. The last 4 tracks are some of the best they ever did ... and I can understand if you don't like "I Am The Walrus," but I think it's awesome.
I don't know the tracklisting inside out; I just know the songs that I know from that album are pretty awful. Only A Northern Song, despite being fairly witty, is terrible. Flying, the title track, Walrus...everything I've heard from it is shite.
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and I plan on getting a Marvin Gaye collection.
No, no. There's no way to cap the brilliance of Marvin Gaye in just one collection..."Whats Going On" is one of the greatest albums of ALL TIME. A collection without that album on both cd and vinyl is a collection that is not worthy enough to be considered "collection" Beyond that, I guess you could get the four-disc anthology, which includes early stuff with Tammi Terrell, to his "urban hobo" era, and includes some rarities, like a live version of The Star Spangled Banner, which brings the funk like no other.
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and I plan on getting a Marvin Gaye collection.
No, no. There's no way to cap the brilliance of Marvin Gaye in just one collection..."Whats Going On" is one of the greatest albums of ALL TIME. A collection without that album on both cd and vinyl is a collection that is not worthy enough to be considered "collection" Beyond that, I guess you could get the four-disc anthology, which includes early stuff with Tammi Terrell, to his "urban hobo" era, and includes some rarities, like a live version of The Star Spangled Banner, which brings the funk like no other.
My dad owns What's Going On and I have it ripped from that. It's brilliant. But I feel no need for any more than that. I'm not into the 'urban hobo' stuff and I don't generally give a shit about rarities by my favourite bands, even...
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The Clash.
Actually, we have that. It's called "London Calling."
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If we're talking about a hypothetical person who has no 'favorite' bands, and just wants to buy a bunch of Best Of's (sorry, Anthologies), to see if any catch his/her ear:
Talking Head's Once in a Lifetime (Greatest compilation EVER)
It's gorgeous set (I needed it for the videos), but it's a bit pricey for someone who'd be looking just to catch their drift. I think Sand in the Vaseline would be better suited for something like that, or even The Name Of This Band even though it's not really a compilation.
Granted. Hell, it's too pricey for me, and I'm a fan. But *looks over shoulder* there are... ways, of getting your hands on albums without technically paying for them. I borrowed it from my school's library.
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Also, how come people in foreign lands jerk off over Oasis so hard? Did we never manage to export Pulp?
No, Pulp was mostly a miserable failure overseas. A real shame, they are my favourite of the lot, with Blur a close second
Their version of that song is fucking terrible.
Still better than all of their other stuff, and since the compilation would be "Best Of" and not "Good Songs By" I' say I'm right.
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I am the Walrus is my favourite Beatles song, and has been since I was four, which is when I learned to sing along to it.
I do not, in fact, particularly enjoy Rubber Soul. I do not, in fact enjoy pop music. I do not, in fact, think creating good pop music is laudible. The artistic equivalent of pop music is creating a pretty picture for a postcard. Yeah, occasionally someone who can paint a relatively pleasing or amusing postcard comes around, but even the best saucy postcard isn't fucking Oscar Wilde, or even a Giles cartoon. Sometimes, someone comes along who can make a pretty decent conventional pop song. But 'pretty decent' is all its ever going to be. Saying the Beatles were best at creating pop music is like saying you like Andy Warhol for his advertising work.
Actually, Pulp didn't do nearly well enough in their native land either. Only one big hit, a few minor ones, one or two very well-selling albums...they deserved more out of brit-pop when you looked at what WAS selling.
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BEACH BOYS
Van Halen
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I am the Walrus is my favourite Beatles song, and has been since I was four, which is when I learned to sing along to it.
I do not, in fact, particularly enjoy Rubber Soul. I do not, in fact enjoy pop music. I do not, in fact, think creating good pop music is laudible. The artistic equivalent of pop music is creating a pretty picture for a postcard. Yeah, occasionally someone who can paint a relatively pleasing or amusing postcard comes around, but even the best saucy postcard isn't fucking Oscar Wilde, or even a Giles cartoon. Sometimes, someone comes along who can make a pretty decent conventional pop song. But 'pretty decent' is all its ever going to be. Saying the Beatles were best at creating pop music is like saying you like Andy Warhol for his advertising work.
I completely disagree. All of the Beatles pop songs would have to be fucking brilliant postcard illustrations, whereas modern pop is one of those jaunty 'Wish You Were Here!' postcards.
It bemuses me that 'I Am The Walrus' is so lauded, when it really is just three half finished songs and an acid trip put in a blender.
Actually, Pulp didn't do nearly well enough in their native land either. Only one big hit, a few minor ones, one or two very well-selling albums...they deserved more out of brit-pop when you looked at what WAS selling.
To be fair, 'This Is Hardcore' felt like a deliberate effort to kill their fame on the part of Jarvis Cocker.
Different Class is still shifting lots of copies, I think.
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They probably sold a bunch after that Shatner cover got popular.
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To be fair, 'This Is Hardcore' felt like a deliberate effort to kill their fame on the part of Jarvis Cocker.
I think of it as more of a "we are not like Oasis or Menswear" album, it's also my second favourite one.
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Dear Lord.
Liking Oasis is grounds for discounting logical statements? My good Gryff, many of their songs are classics; such concepts as "Good" and "Bad" do not enter the equation. These songs simply ARE, and their being is enough.
I cannot believe you are going to sit there and honestly tell me that you have no place in your heart for anything by Oasis. That you have never sat around a campfire with friends and a guitar singing Wonderwall. That you have never sat and enjoyed the sounds of Stop Crying Your Heart Out. That you have never sung along with Breakfast At Tiffany's and laughed afterwards at how foolish it sounded, yet still enjoyed the song in a deep dark corner of your heart.
Any individual who could say such things HAS NO SOUL, let alone any business making critical remarks of my own taste in music.
I bid you good day and wash my hands of this.
For shame.
this is the best post i have ever read on the internet.
it is an exercise it utter hilarity, every line makes the previous one look thin by comparison. it accumulates like a snowball of inadequacy until at the end it becomes an avalanche of pure undiluted mirth.
it is the post that says 'i am thirteen and i live with my parents'.
salut senor Tergon! you are the great comedic writer of your era and you do not even know it. i suggest you continue writing in this style and i will help you find a publisher for it. i would buy ten copies of it myself.
Nineteen, actually. And I live on campus at University.
But thank you for your kind words. Hey, I'm a languages and literature student. Ridiculously over-the-top self-mockery in unusually floral and wordy statemtns is what I *do*.
Glad you liked it. ;)
Er, that's not by Oasis.
Uh... I knew that. I mean, yes it is. Shut up.
Meh, whatever. Rule #1 of music love is that EVERYONE has their secret musical shame. They all have the one band that they like which nobody else likes. For me, that happens to be Oasis.
Oh, come on. I suppose all of *you* have such impeccable tastes in music that nobody could *ever* dislike any of your favourite bands?
Give it up, you've all got a dirty little secret. So next time you feel like mocking me for liking Oasis, remember that album that you play all the time but don't admit you own in case people laugh. And remember that at least I had the balls to ADMIT it.
Hah.
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It bemuses me that 'I Am The Walrus' is so lauded, when it really is just three half finished songs and an acid trip put in a blender.
As I said, I started liking I Am The Walrus when I was four. I would loudly shout "I AM THE EGGMAN, I AM THE EGGMAN" in the car. I didn't like it becuase it was pretentious or lauded or whatever. I liked it because it was the funnest thing I'd ever heard, ever. Even more fun than the Captain Planet Theme tune. It was MIND-BLOWING SHIT when I was four, ok?
Also, I Am The Walrus isn't actually an acid trip song, as far as I'm aware. It was written as a gently mocking tribute to surrealism, psychedelia, etc. and as a slap in the face to the type of Beatles fans who would analyse their lyrics like Shakespeare: It's all random, meaningless crap, like a lyrical Rorschach blot.
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Oh, come on. I suppose all of *you* have such impeccable tastes in music that nobody could *ever* dislike any of your favourite bands?
Give it up, you've all got a dirty little secret. So next time you feel like mocking me for liking Oasis, remember that album that you play all the time but don't admit you own in case people laugh. And remember that at least I had the balls to ADMIT it.
Hah.
There is a Guilty Pleasures thread alrady. I'll readily admit I liked the first Mars Volta album.
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y'know what? i have both of the junior senior albums. that's fucking diabolical.
Satan called, he wants to hire you as a media consultant.
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It bemuses me that 'I Am The Walrus' is so lauded, when it really is just three half finished songs and an acid trip put in a blender.
I don't give a shit about the lyrics. Actually, I greatly dislike the lyrics, yet it's still my favorite Beatles song. Why? Because I like the way the words sound with the music and I think it sits really well. I think it just plain sounds good. I also like Day in the Life a bunch (yeah, I'm not familiar enough with the Beatles to go through their entire catalogue and pick out a favorite song that is nobody else's favorite song, darn).
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*humps tommy's leg*
Okay, got a 'nuther one... how about a "Best Of" by Danny Elfman? That there is an album I'd like to get my hands on. And it would remove a bunch of tracks you don't really need. For example, if you get the Spider-Man Theme, you don't *need* the Dock Ock Theme.
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On the subject of soundtracks, you really don't need anything more than an Ennio Morricone best-of, if you pick well.
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True.
The Jackass soundtrack was funny for... oh, about seven minutes. Now I just sorta wonder what the hell I was on when I bought it.
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Khar: I assume you disagree with Crime & Dissonance's billing as "The Essential Morriconography," then?
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It's not like America is immune to the 'only our country likes this stuff' thing.
You guys have country music. And Bruce Springsteen.
Granted. However, 80% of the demand for country music comes from the South. It's very different when you look at record charts from California as compared to nation (they have them in the San Francisco Chronicle). A country album will top out at about 15-20 here, when it may be 2nd or 3rd nationwide.
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The Stray Cats can be summed up in a best of album that would be worth buying.
It is a bad idea however, to buy a best of the Ramones album. It's painfully repetitive.
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You're all wrong, My Chemical Romance invented good music as we know it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I have specifically read that one of the parts of I Am the Walrus (the police-siren-ish-bit) was written during an acid trip.
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Hey I've read that water is wet and the sky is full of air!
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YOU MEAN I CAN'T BREATHE IN THE OCEAN?!
...FUCK
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Hey I've read that water is wet and the sky is full of air!
Are you ignorant, or just deliberately acting like a twat?
My post was in response to Khar's statement that he wasn't aware of I Am The Walrus being written during an acid trip. I was responding.
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He's just deliberately acting like a twat. It's what makes Kim the best poster ever.
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It's not like America is immune to the 'only our country likes this stuff' thing.
You guys have country music. And Bruce Springsteen.
Granted. However, 80% of the demand for country music comes from the South. It's very different when you look at record charts from California as compared to nation (they have them in the San Francisco Chronicle). A country album will top out at about 15-20 here, when it may be 2nd or 3rd nationwide.
Not to mention Springsteen in fucking genious, and I say that as a Canadian, not an American.
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It's not like America is immune to the 'only our country likes this stuff' thing.
You guys have country music. And Bruce Springsteen.
Granted. However, 80% of the demand for country music comes from the South. It's very different when you look at record charts from California as compared to nation (they have them in the San Francisco Chronicle). A country album will top out at about 15-20 here, when it may be 2nd or 3rd nationwide.
Not to mention Springsteen in fucking genious, and I say that as a Canadian, not an American.
I didn't say Springsteen was bad, but I hardly know anyone in England who gives a shit about him.
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Hey I've read that water is wet and the sky is full of air!
Are you ignorant, or just deliberately acting like a twat?
The latter. And who says it's an act? ;)
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Hey I've read that water is wet and the sky is full of air!
Are you ignorant, or just deliberately acting like a twat?
The latter. And who says it's an act? ;)
Indeed. People often accost me for acting like an ass...it comes natrual to me, since I am, after all, an ass.