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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Spartan Pho3nix on 30 May 2006, 22:10
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A radiohead house album.
Seriously. Do you know how cool a full album filled with songs like that by Radiohead would be? Just listen to some of their stuff on Kid A and Amnesiac and you know they're fully capable. It'd be amazing.
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I want a full album of triple-guitar heavy metal versions of dark Romantic Classical music.
Actually, I just want 'Night on the Bare Mountain'. That piece just screams for whammy bar, and lots of it.
That and a neo-folk tribute to Simon and Garfunkel.
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The Elliott Smith album From A Basement On The Hill that would have been, if he hadn't stabbed himself in the fucking heart...
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Elliott didnt kill himself! it was that bitch girlfriend of his.
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And then she ran off and married Elvis.
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Is this going to start going into a debate about the whole 'did Elliot Smith really kill himself or was it Jennifer Chiba?"
Because that's like debating about any other God forsaken conspiracy that no one will ever know the answer to.
It's too late, he's cremated.
And back on topic. I say 'aye.'
Because I couldn't say I wouldn't kill for that.
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Radiohead were basically being fanboys for the output of Warp Records, Skam, etc. around the time of 'Kid A', Thom saying he got back from tour and bought the entirety of Autechre's back catalogue. There are many house / tech records that sound like the aesthetic of artists like Autechre grafted on to the house format. Autechre themselves have done the odd house track.. sort of... I'm thinking of their remix of Various Artists. IMO, it's fucking awful, but whatever.
I can recommend some things to try, if you're interested. Mostly it's all instrumental, certainly no songs that sound like Radiohead. But if you're thinking about the instrumentation / arrangements / production, maybe I can vaaaaguely help.
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At one point, I was hell-bent on hearing Alberto Radius' first solo album "Radius". Not only does it have Radius of Formula 3 fame (later to form the great Il Volo), but also has other future members of Il Volo, as well as Demetrio Stratos from Area and some guy from Premiata Forneria Marconi. It's an Italian Prog supergroup! I heard it, finally, and I wasn't very impressed. Oh well.
If there were such a thing as a one-off side project with Piggy from Voivod, Astor Piazzolla, and Chris Cutler, I might kill for that.
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Is this going to start going into a debate about the whole 'did Elliot Smith really kill himself or was it Jennifer Chiba?"
WHAT!? i have never heard such drivel.
you must explain to me this, post-haste!
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Elliott didnt kill himself! it was that bitch girlfriend of his.
Oh please, let's not.
I would kill for a Wilco concept album.
Saying that, I'd kill for a collaboration between Bob Dylan and Wilco. Billy Bragg seemed to work, let's try the Bobster. Can you imagine him over their head-up-your-arse, laptop-feedback noise? It'd be amazing, and just the kind of thing I would expect Bob to do in 2006 to confound everyone. (except me, obviously, since I'm expecting it...)
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nothing I would kill for, however I would issue various sexual favors for more iron & wine albums like the old lo-fi stuff.
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I would kill for an entire album by the characters played by Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara in "A Mighty Wind."
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I would also kill for pop to rewind back to the eighties. And I mean properly, not the Future Dogs Die in Kaiser Ferdinands Hot Hot Arctic Car Park Party crap. I want everyone to just come on TV tomorrow, apologise, slam TR-909s on the desk, slap on a whole can of hairspray, look mildly upset, and start bopping. This would at least mean that I can go out and have fun at clubs, because even the fucking 'alternative' nights round here generally make me want to shoot myself.
Actually, I also want the proviso that we basically just skip Sting and 80's party rap.
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So basically have the pop stations play Tears for Fears, Thriller and Cyndi Lauper all the time?
FUCK. YEAH.
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Elliott didnt kill himself! it was that bitch girlfriend of his.
Jennifer Chiba did NOT kill Elliott Smith. I loved him too, but dude killed HIMSELF!
I'd kill for more Alkaline Trio albums on Asian Man Records and that didn't kinda suck.
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I thought FreshJive787's comment was a (funny) joke about Kurt & Courtney?
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No, actually, he stabbed himself through his clothing so when police found him, they heavily considered the option that he was murdered. Their prime suspect was his girlfriend, Jennifer Chiba. FACT!
Or at least, that's what I assume he meant...
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Actually, I also want the proviso that we basically just skip Sting and 80's party rap.
No 80's party rap? White dudes with keyboards vs. urbanites bellowing party-like statements at you? Clearly the latter wins.
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So basically have the pop stations play Tears for Fears, Thriller and Cyndi Lauper all the time?
FUCK. YEAH.
We have that in Mexico. There is one station completely devoted to the 80s, and many others have "retro sections"
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A Sam Beam/Jenny Lewis EP. That would be awesome.
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No, a Jenny Lewis with Neko Case and Cat Power would be great, and Wilco as the backing band.
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Wilco's great and all, but I would never put them as backing band.
The Sadies, on the other hand...
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Man, why does everybody have to be sticking race into music?
New wave and nu-pop are better than anything to even think about hitting the charts since.
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I really want Israeli rock to go back to the 90's. Man, so many underground bands, so many clubs, not as much goths and pretentious fucks.
I'd love to go back in time to 1993.
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No, a Jenny Lewis with Neko Case and Cat Power would be great, and Wilco as the backing band.
Minus perhaps Wilco, that'd be the sexiest collaboration ever.
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Wilco's great and all, but I would never put them as backing band.
I didn't mean as a backing band, I'm thinking on equal footing with Dylan, playing off each other.
You know what would've been awesome? Johnny Cash covered Nick Cave...but they should have made an album together. The two booming voices of murder ballads together.
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Pavement Reunion...
*sniff*
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Actually, I also want the proviso that we basically just skip Sting and 80's party rap.
...ICE, ICE, BABY...
Also ...
I'd go on a highly sophisticated killing spree for a Skyclad reunion. You know ... Martin back.
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Actually, I also want the proviso that we basically just skip Sting and 80's party rap.
...ICE, ICE, BABY...
Came out in 1990 or '91.
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A third Portishead studio album.
Yes, I know Out of Season was sung by Beth Gibbons and produced by Adrian Utley.
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A third Portishead studio album.
DEAR GOD YES
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Man, why does everybody have to be sticking race into music?
Becuase new-wave was primarily where the white kids in chess club and debate club went to make music?
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What does it even have to do with them being white? It's just good music.
I can't stand this fucking constant intimation that I am a racist because I don't like rap.
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I can't stand this fucking constant intimation that I am a racist because I don't like rap.
I'm not saying you're racist! I'm just saying that new wave was made by white people!
Rap was made by white people too sometimes! And Hispanic! And the British! Not liking rap doesn't make you racist, it just means you don't like rap.
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What I'm saying is, what does the fact that new wave was made by white people actually have to do with the music?
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What does the fact that punk was made by working-class kids have to do with the music?
(I'll just answer both questions: a fair bit, you can't ignore where music comes from.)
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Yeah just like ska came from band nerds.
Anywho, I would kill for a George Harrison/Petra Haden duet album. I do believe I could die a happy man then.
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What does the fact that punk was made by working-class kids have to do with the music?
(I'll just answer both questions: a fair bit, you can't ignore where music comes from.)
Race and class might have a strong correlation in certain areas, but I don't think that the arguments one could make for causal influence on music for class could similarly be made for race without a lot of sociological derivation.
Also, ska doesn't come from band nerds.
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I agree, class is usually more influential than race. That doesn't mean race is irrelevant though. Especially in the US race can be a huge part of one's identity (though obviously being in the majority means "white" isn't really a distinguising characteristic). Jazz, for example, is a product of racial hierarchy, the merging of two cultures with African Americans stuck in between. Jazz couldn't have started with poor-white people. It necessarily had to be poor-black people.
Ska, as it turns out, has a huge cultural history involving race. The Second Wave (The Two "Tone" movement) was in large part an effort to deal with racial tensions in the UK.
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That was a joke, Rhythmia...
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What I'm saying is, what does the fact that new wave was made by white people actually have to do with the music?
Maybe it gave new wave an over-serious tone to it? I'd rather listen to something cheesy and tongue-in-cheek than something that's cheesy but doesn't realize it.
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What does the fact that punk was made by working-class kids have to do with the music?
Except by no means was all punk made by working class kids.
Here's a question. How come hip post-modernism gets as far as crap like viewing everything ironically, debunking the cult of the artist, embracing pop as a worthwhile artform and whatnot, but doesn't take the fundamental modernist/post-modernist idea that a text is independent of its author.
All this focus on the race and class and gender and so forth of the artist (as if it actually matters as long as the music's good) actually does is lead to ridiculous crap like black rappers being instantly more credible than white rappers, and those old classic crap comments on pitchfork and whatnot about 'white guys with guitars' (as if every band fitting that sort of demographic is somehow identical). The only circumstances that I personally find this sort of thing to be important in is if the band makes it a central part of their music: for example, I will ridicule Good Charlotte for singing about how they don't like rich people, because they're rich pop stars, whilst I will not ridicule Skyclad for singing about how poor and hungry they are on their early albums, because they were.
It's not that I don't think it can be a concern, especially if you're talking about history of music and whatnot, but I think it's generally just taken too far.
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What I'm saying is, what does the fact that new wave was made by white people actually have to do with the music?
Maybe it gave new wave an over-serious tone to it? I'd rather listen to something cheesy and tongue-in-cheek than something that's cheesy but doesn't realize it.
Did I miss the "white people are more serious about things than black people" stereotype memo?
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It's more of a "when white people try to be serious it ends up cheesy" memo.
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Yeah, I'm still out of the loop.
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I would kill for everyone taking a slightly flippant comment that I made less seriously.
P.S. Kai gets the point.
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Pavement Reunion...
*sniff*
Do you think Dave Chappelle could do it? ^_-;
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Here's a question. How come hip post-modernism gets as far as crap like viewing everything ironically, debunking the cult of the artist, embracing pop as a worthwhile artform and whatnot, but doesn't take the fundamental modernist/post-modernist idea that a text is independent of its author.
Possibly because we live in a Post Modern age. People in the Romanticism probably did not go "Hey, since one of the tenets of my age is the celebration of the nature, I'll go admire the land", similarly, most people do not take any interest in what post modernism actually is, they are just influenced by some of the surface aspects of it.
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Do you think Dave Chappelle could do it? ^_-;
I don't even know if Oprah could.
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Except by no means was all punk made by working class kids.
Well yeah, but that doesn't mean the aesthetic and culture aren't products of a working class perspective. We can assume there are exceptions but there are still basic trends and generalization we can make about music. I'm not saying "PUNK=WORKING CLASS" I'm saying there are definitely connections between the two.
Here's a question. How come hip post-modernism gets as far as crap like viewing everything ironically, debunking the cult of the artist, embracing pop as a worthwhile artform and whatnot, but doesn't take the fundamental modernist/post-modernist idea that a text is independent of its author.
The basic post-modern tenet is a multiplicity of perspectives. We can view the text as independent or we can consider the author. Both tell us things.
Anyways, LL Cool J was awesome and I don't care what anybody says. Maybe I unconsciously hate white people.
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Whitey's a dick, dude.
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Actually, I also want the proviso that we basically just skip Sting and 80's party rap.
...ICE, ICE, BABY...
Came out in 1990 or '91.
You need to get out more.
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I'd kill for Steven Page to sing me to sleep every night FOR EVER.
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I would kill for a Wilco concept album.
So, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot? Which has just a bunch of recurrent themes, almost every song ends the same way, and has a lot of tracks that play pretty much continuously into eachother?
Yeah so that.
I would pay many hundreds of dollars for a new Mr. Bungle album. I would pay equally large sums to see Sleepytime Gorilla Museum playing with Blue Man Group.
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I would kill for a Wilco concept album.
So, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot? Which has just a bunch of recurrent themes, almost every song ends the same way, and has a lot of tracks that play pretty much continuously into eachother?
Yeah so that.
A proper Wilco concept album. Recurring themes and similar endings does not a concept album make. It makes a samey (though awesome) album.
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Actually, I also want the proviso that we basically just skip Sting and 80's party rap.
...ICE, ICE, BABY...
Came out in 1990 or '91.
You need to get out more.
Yes I do.
You need to learn your music trivia. ;-)
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I have a better idea.
Lets not choose a Michael Jackson song.
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I have an even better idea, let's just stay away from the Jackson family entirely.
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I have an even better idea, let's just stay away from the Jackson family entirely.
Seconded!
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I'm suprised that no one's mentioned some sort of Neutral Milk Hotel "reunion" (or whatever the hell you want to call it) which is one of the things I'd defenitly attempt some murder for.
Pavement reuniting would also be one of them.
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Neutral Milk Hotel "reunion"
Seconded. I'd love a new album... On second thought, maybe that would ruin things.
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You know, it might ruin things... I mean as much as I loved Two Headed Boy, I'm not sure I could take part three of that song... but man that'd be so worth it.
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Reunions:
McLusky
Mr. Bungle
Pavement (except that I like most of the new projects by members more than the original shit)
Idiot Flesh (again, not quite as good as new stuff, but still)
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I'd kill for emo to have never hit middle schools.
And for emo to still mean what it meant in 1998 (back when I really had no idea what it meant, but thought I liked it).
OK mainly I just want Far to put out another album AND not have any of "those people" like it. By "those people" i mean "Bright Eyes Fans".
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Reunion:
ABBA
Velvet Underground
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You're not being ironic about ABBA, are you?
That being said, I might not kill for it, but I would be extremely happy if somebody smacked Matt Barlow upside the head and got him to rejoin Iced Earth. Ripper's a capable singer for sure, but Barlow is irreplacable.
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Not the slightest. I really really love ABBA. It used to be a "secret shame" until I stopped caring about that stuff.
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Lets not choose a Michael Jackson song.
Khar, this "common sense" thing of yours seems so overrated.