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Fun Stuff => MAKE => Topic started by: The True Lenin on 28 Jun 2006, 17:04
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In responce to the knowledge that one of my co-workers is a vegetarian, I came up with this design. It still needs some work, but I hope to make a t-shirt out of it in the end.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i88/collyer_1/meat.jpg)
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Genius!
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Is this person being overly self-righteous? If so then fine but otherwise, don't be a dick. Vegetarians get enough shit from people as it is, they don't need you adding to it.
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Haha, pretty funny. I'd wear it.
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ive met a WHOLE lot of vegetarians...and not once have i had a problem with them/being converted...while the shirt IS funny...it is not entirely approrpiate...and would be better if you used something OTHER than 'meatataria"...
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Is this person being overly self-righteous? If so then fine but otherwise, don't be a dick. Vegetarians get enough shit from people as it is, they don't need you adding to it.
Quoted for truth.
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Mixed reactions... we are amused.
I have nothing in particular against vegetarians, I am just generally of the opinion that it's a dumb idea. I like protein, whether it's from beef, pork, chicken, fish, sheep/lamb, crustation, or any other meat based format.
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Original!
I'm going to make a shirt about how women get cranky at least once a month!
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I agree with the poster above me.
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As much as I think PETA is a useless corporate machine I also think they have some good messages (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvs80uenJIA).
I'm not here to argue vegetarianism with you, Lenin, but your comment strikes me as seriously uniformed. Do yourself a favour and read up on it a little more before you go badmouthing it.
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I hate it when people give me crap about being vegetarian, because it's not by personal choice (my whole family was raised vegetarian).
People are too quick to assume it's some "save the fluffy bunnies" conversion deal, there are a lot of reasons why people might make that diet choice. Given that, focus on the fact that it is a CHOICE, they have made theirs, and you've made yours, so please leave it at that. Unless they're a bitchy self-rightous one, lay off vegetarians, its annoying and just makes you look like a jerk.
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I like protein, whether it's from beef, pork, chicken, fish, sheep/lamb, crustation, or any other meat based format.
So really what you're saying is that you like meat. There are plenty of foods besides meat that have protein.
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You have the best avatar ever.
Lenin rocked hard in Russia.
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As much as I think PETA is a useless corporate machine I also think they have some good messages (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvs80uenJIA).
I'm not here to argue vegetarianism with you, Lenin, but your comment strikes me as seriously uniformed. Do yourself a favour and read up on it a little more before you go badmouthing it.
I think it is unfair to assume he is uninformed, even though he might be. Besides making a lame shirt, he might have thought out his opinion.
I got into a debate with a vegetarian where I was mostly (but not completely) playing devil's advocate and said, "Yes, I've heard all the bad stuff and I don't care, I like meat." That may be his informed opinion, and however much you disagree with him doesn't make his opinion uninformed.
Edit: Re-read his second post and figure you're probably right.
Plus, Rise Against su-ucks.
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Dude, I like the design or whatever. But you should have known some people wouldn't find it funny. It's cool to make fun of emos for being emo, but you can't mock vegetarians for their beliefs!!!11 That's descrimination!!!
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That's because emo kids are retarded and spend more money on pants than I do my entire wardrobe.
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i think it's mostly because emo kids look ridiculous, and vegetarians mostly have a point
edit: in that a lot of us aren't about campaigning for animal rights, or throwing pies at people, but that we don't want to eat dead things
(though animal rights are good, but PETA are just dicks about it)
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Salads are made with dead things.
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Edit: Re-read his second post and figure you're probably right.
Plus, Rise Against su-ucks.
Thank you, I don't usually slag people off unless I'm reasonably sure I'm in the right.
P.s. Rise Against are alright and they have a good message.
p.p.s PETA made an estimated 350 million US last year. 7 million went to animal rights charities and the rest were spent on internal costs (advertising, a new office, vehicles, saleries).
Effective use of money no?
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i'm not a vegetarian, nor do i have anything against their beleifs. But i live on a farm that the amish use to raise beef cattle, so I witness their bovine lives every day. I dont know about big beef companies, but the cows here have pretty good lives. What most people don't realize is that if humans didn't use cows for their milk/meat, they literally would not exist. Their lives aren't being cut short. becoming a meat product is thier life. So even though we kill them, they do get to live, and that's a lot better than never living at all, right?
the bottom line, i guess, is that stuff needs to eat other stuff for nature to work. we would all die if everyone was a vegeterian. as long as you don't have a "total conversion" mentality, then everything's cool.
as for me, i dont eat asparagus. i beleive strongly in the rights of disgusting little plants that smell bad.
as for the shirt, being a "meatatarian" would suggest that you eat no vegetables at all. I'm not entirely sure, but that may not be possible to live on
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So what you're saying Jibjib is that if it weren't for people cattle would be extinct? Cause they're from Persia and there isn't actually anywhere for them to live anymore. They have a much better life because they get to live in farms all over the world right?
I guess that's kind of like how black people in the US have a much better lifestyle than those in say Ethiopia? So I guess that makes slavery ok cause those black people in the US have a much better life now...
See what I mean? It's not the best analogy but it conveys the point.
And I'm sure cattle on small farms are much better treated than those in large corporate ones. It still doesn't make the corporate treatment of cattle right.
(And before people start berrating me, I eat meat. I also believe in ethical treatment rather than cruelty. I'm not implying that we shouldn't eat meat just that we should be concious of where it comes from and not consume more meat than we need)
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hmm, that black person analogy is a good point, i didn't think of that. You could also say the the Irish potato famine was a good thing because it caused my family to move to america in poverty. I guess it really puts the "means to an end" thing in perspective.
all i meant was that the cattle we have here today are bred for the sole pupose of eating them. a rather grim notion, no? i dont either advocate or oppose to that, i'm just putting out some ideas for people, trying to support the whole "being informed" thing.
(the ones we eat would kill us anyway...trust me, they've tried o_o)
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I'm a vegan, and I don't see why I would be bothered with the shirt. So he's proud of his choice of lifestyle; why does that affect me? It's not like I expect everyone who isn't like me to be ashamed of himself.
I don't watch Nascar, but I don't get personally offended when I see a pickup truck with a "3" on it. If I think anything about it, it's just, "there's a dude I don't feel like hanging out with."