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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: spgphil on 05 Sep 2006, 22:51
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I'm trying to get back into metal a bit...
Metal and "heavier" bands i listen to include: Danzig, Sabbath, The Sword, Gorgoroth, My Dying Bride, Converge...
any suggestions are appreciated
I apologize in advance if there's already a post similar to this.. forgive me.
Thanks
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Cathedral. Get Caravan Beyond Redemption right now.
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Anal Cunt
wait
what?
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Dude, you're not fooling anyone. You've never even listened to Anal Cunt.
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I've listened to couple of their covers. I've never really had any desire to listen to the rest. Their song titles are funny. I didn't know I was trying to make people think that I had, since anyone who has heard of the band knows the recomendation was a joke.
I was also parodying the fact that the name gets dropped ironically on every indie recomendation thread and doesn't really make sense in a metal request thread.
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I think it would have been funnier if you didn't try to explain why you recommended Anal Cunt.
Maybe we need a new recommendations joke, guys. Or maybe we just need to, you know, kick it up a notch
I'm just going to start recommending Journey to everyone.
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Right, well I didn't expect to have to explain it until Storm Rider started being a dick.
In any case I'm not really a metal guy but I've just been getting into Agalloch. You might like them.
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*Everyone gathers round into a circle*
FIGHT! FIGHT!
*I bust in*
Now now, spgphil was asking for metal bands jcknbl gave him one and even added a little "wait.. wat?" to show the humor behind it. And he has listened to a few of their "songs" so there's no reason to question eachothers credentials being of phallic shape. Let's all just listen to a little Don't Stop Believing by Journey and have a few good laughs at the 80's expense. I mean, GLAM ROCK? What the hell was that!? Hahahaha!...... Right?
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Skyclad!
Cradle Of Filth!
Tristania!
Sirenia!
Zoek het uit!
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Judging by your tastes, I would second Cathedral, and also suggest (at this stage):
Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics/When the Kite String Pops
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus/Nightfall
Orange Goblin - Frequencies From Planet Ten/The Big Black
Paradise Lost - Gothic
Start there, and report back. I've gotta be off pretty soon, but I'll slap down a more comprehensive and broadening list later, maybe.
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Based on the bands you like here's my list of recommendations:
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Iced Earth
Behemoth - Satanica (don't get any of their later stuff)
Bathory (highly recommended to anyone)
Ulver
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Cradle Of Filth!
No, no and NO!
Anyway: Opeth is an obvious choice.
Also check out: Emperor (!!), Death ("Symbolic" is a good start) and maybe Neurosis, if you want some doomy stuff.
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Cradle Of Filth!
No, no and NO!
Anyway: Opeth is an obvious choice.
Also check out: Emperor (!!), Death ("Symbolic" is a good start) and maybe Neurosis, if you want some doomy stuff.
What's wrong with CoF? Their earlier stuff is amazing.
And i second Emperor.
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The guitarist from the Sword wore a shirt for Hammers of Misfortune, which just put out the new album The Locust Years, which is absolutely amazing (though more in the style of freaky rock opera-esque sort of thing, they experiment a lot).
Try out:
Opeth, Katatonia, In Flames (older stuff), Immortal. To branch out a little, that is.
You might like some of the 'metalcore' people; As I Lay Dying, All That Remains, Haste the Day, Bleeding Through, Shadows Fall, Zao, etc. (people like to go "uurghh hurr you're retarded" when I bring them up, but it can't hurt to say maybe).
Power metal is tasty; 3 Inches of Blood, Kamelot (they're incredible), Dragonforce, Blind Guardian, Sonata Arctica, etc.
Allmusic.com is your friend.
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Judging by your tastes, I would second Cathedral, and also suggest (at this stage):
Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics/When the Kite String Pops
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus/Nightfall
Orange Goblin - Frequencies From Planet Ten/The Big Black
Paradise Lost - Gothic
YES.
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Allmusic.com is your friend.
As are Wikipedia and Last.fm. Pandora not so much.
I've really been digging Pelican since I checked out their album Australasia. Sludge with post-rock influences. I also second the Agalloch.
I vote that Crotchduster replaces Anal Cunt as the standing recommendation joke.
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I wish I was the first to chime "Opeth!"
But anyway, I cannot think of a better choice. It might be hard to find, but a great album to start out on is "Still Life". If you can't find that, try "Blackwater Park", it will most likely be in stock anywhere you go. thoguh if you get that one, try HARD to get the Deluxe Edition.
Other Opeth Albums
My Arms, Your Hearse
Orchid
Deliverance
Damnation
Ghost Reveries
Slumber, Bloodbath, Fintroll, Therion, and Theatre Of Tragedy are some of my other favorite metal bands.
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Right, well I didn't expect to have to explain it until Storm Rider started being a dick.
In any case I'm not really a metal guy but I've just been getting into Agalloch. You might like them.
Dude, I wasn't being a dick, I was playing along. Relax.
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I, for one, welcome our Anal Cunt overlords...
okay, I'm gonna second ZAO, because they've always been a favorite of mine - they're the first 'heavy' band i ever got into. Here's some other recommendations...
C.ur1 Up And Die (had to write the first word funky, because for some reason , these phpBB style boards freak out over that word)
Isis
Neurosis
Cursed
City Of Catarpillar
Coalesce
Pg. 99
Beecher (their first album 'Breaking The Fourth Wall')
Narcissus
Orchid (the band, not the Opeth album)
Mastodon
I could go on, and on, and on...but I think I'll stop here for now. Let someone else talk a while. I know WAY more about this side of music than I do about indie-rock, so these threads usually make me all kinds of happy
edit: MAKE SURE you check out Doomriders!
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I vote that Crotchduster replaces Anal Cunt as the standing recommendation joke.
I second this. Especially since Crotchduster are fucking awesome.
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Haste the Day
someone told me they were a christian metal band.
my friend mike and my gf are getting me into some metal....*shudders*, but i liked Anathema, they weren't too hard, infact they were softer than a lot of the Post Hardcore stuff i listen to. i have a song by Opeth that was good.
actually the growling makes me laugh. idk why. but i find it hilarious.
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actually the growling makes me laugh. idk why. but i find it hilarious.
then you are definitely on the right track. growls are not to be taken seriously because they are silly. the entire genre of metal is silly.
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Sounds like you're after some doom. Based on what you listed, you'll probably like these albums.
Anathema - Serenades
Amorphis - Tales from the Thousand Lakes
Katatonia - Dance of December Souls
Sentenced - North From Here
Paradise Lost - Shades of God
I dunno which Gorgoroth albums you have (Pentegram is my fave) but since you listed you like them, I'll reccomend a few BM albums as well.
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
Abyssic Hate - Suicidal Emotions
Nargaroth - Herbstelyd
Samael - Worship Him
Behemoth - ...And the Forests Dream Eternally
Ulver - Bergtatt
Oh and as others have mentioned be sure to check out Opeth, Morningrise is damn amazing, I still listen to it all the time.
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i was reallys surprised...
at first i assumed that it was going to be all like The Sound of Animals Fighting collided head on with Slayer and fused into one being.
but instead it sounded a lot like punk... O.o
honestly. i'll listen to anything but country and rap and/or combinations of the two. and like, pop stuff. actually scratch that, i'll listen to anything that has to do with Rock. or an acoustic guitar or piano. or both. but that doesn't necissarily mean i'll like it.
oh Slayer is some good metal i think. uhmm...i'm gonna go by what my friend tells me: (death metal) Cannibal Corps(sp?), Lamb of God, Dekapitated(sp?), Slayer, Mastadon...umm...yeah i don't really pay attention when he rambles about metal.
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!T.O.O.H.! are simply awesome.
sample: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B2A641813620C4E9
:)
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Despite my complete lack of conventional metal knowledge I'm going to second Orange Goblin's "Frequencies from Planet Ten" because even people whose metal collections otherwise contain three Sabbath albums and a burnt Darkthrone CD think it is a good*.
*This isn't my collection. I also have a burnt Discordance Axis CD, a Sleep CD I never listen to, and a bunch of droning-bullshit like Sunn 0)), Skullflower and Black Boned Angel, so nah!
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Slayer and Lamb of God are not good metal.
Lamb of God isn't even really metal.
That being said, I'm still seeing them in two days. Only because they're with 5 bands I like, though.
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oh Slayer is some good metal i think. uhmm...i'm gonna go by what my friend tells me: (death metal) Cannibal Corps(sp?), Lamb of God, Dekapitated(sp?), Slayer, Mastadon...umm...yeah i don't really pay attention when he rambles about metal.
Cannibal Corpse is the dead baby joke of music.
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Mors Principium Est
Nile
Anorexia Nervosa - "Drudenhaus" and "New Obscurantis Order" for some deliciously fucked up death metal.
Anathema's "The Silent Enigma" and "Eternity" CDs
Seconding Amorphis - they're fantastic! Get Chapters, a kind of best-of with a few tracks from their albums in order, so you can find out what 'era' of Amorphis you like best.
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Why bother finding out which period you like best when you can just buy Elegy and FUCKING TALES FROM THE FUCKING THOUSAND FUCKING LAKES*.
Not sure why I didn't mention them first actually. Awesome albums, especially for your taste. Tales is one of my all time faves.
Seconding all the Agalloch recommendations.
*Those fuckings are not in the actual album title.
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"Tuonela" is right up with those btw. ;)
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Wow guys i wasn't expecting such a strong response, I'll look for all of these (except that metalcore crap) next time I'm at amoeba's.
Thank you.
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Nevermore is a pretty accesable metal band with some very good musicianship. Pickup "This Godless Endeavor" It's not my favorite but it's their best album and a very good place to start.
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well it seems like you guys got this. I'll just recommend something really really obscure and be on my way.
Haatstrijd
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Metal?
Death Cab For Cutie
AFI
Wheatus
Cake
Fear of Flying
Go Betty Go
Oh No Oh My
Crotchduster
Is he joking? o_O
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are you inferrring that Crotchduster are not fucking awesome, sir?
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They're not as awesome as Anal Cunt, that's for sure...
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Give 'em a few more albums.
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bearing in mind that I like metal for the same reason I like Wagner, for the sheer ludicrous EPICNESS of it all...
what, no Hammerfall? they have a pretty good time being utterly ridiculous.
I've only actually heard one Finntroll song, so maybe you shouldn't trust me a lot, but it's a pretty sweet song. Any band that wants to combine ancient folk traditions with rockin it doom metal style is my friend.
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When I hear the word Epic and Wagner's name used in the same sentance with the word metal one record comes to mind immediately.
(http://rp002.free.fr/jaquettes/bathory_twilightofthegods.jpg)
words cannot express how unbelievably good Bathory are.
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Someone needs to Globetrotter this list up a little, Aborym is always a fun choice and a little bit of Killengod makes for some good listening but lately I've been leaning towards Astriaal, some of the finest Australian metal I've heard in quite some time. yes yes.
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Nevermore is a pretty accesable metal band with some very good musicianship. Pickup "This Godless Endeavor" It's not my favorite but it's their best album and a very good place to start.
Honestly, i would not recommend Nevermore to someone who's just getting into the genre. I didnt like them much the first time i listened to their album, later on they grew on me though.
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Someone needs to Globetrotter this list up a little, Aborym is always a fun choice and a little bit of Killengod makes for some good listening but lately I've been leaning towards Astriaal, some of the finest Australian metal I've heard in quite some time. yes yes.
Yeah Astriaal aren't half bad
"Renascent Misanthropy" is a great album, I'm pretty sure they're broken up now, which is a pity...
If you're digging Astriaal be sure to check out Portal, they're probably the best Austrlaian BM band at the moment and they put on one hell of a live show.
I really like Myrddraal as well, they were from my old home town (Canberra) and were fucking awesome. If you can pick up their "Blood on the Mountains" album try and do so its really good.
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I shudder to think what Australian Blacketal is like. I have this 'vision' of leatherclad, corpsepainted people with big hats with corks on them. And a lot of grunting about 'G'd day, mate'.
If any country is un-black metal it must be Australia, to my mind.
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Australia has some really good BM bands. When Nile came out this band from Perth called The Furor played. they were all corpsepainted up and the guitar player had some kind of Egyptian head dress on which made him look like he had horns......it made it pretty hard to take them seriously without constantly going 'Oh fuck, that guys got horns'
ok bad example....but the music was still cool
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I shudder to think what Australian Blacketal is like. I have this 'vision' of leatherclad, corpsepainted people with big hats with corks on them. And a lot of grunting about 'G'd day, mate'.
If any country is un-black metal it must be Australia, to my mind.
Theres been some pretty good BM bands from here over the years. Theres more to playing BM then being "cold" and "necro".
Astennu, from Lord Kaos, went over to Norway and play on Dimmu Borgir's "Spiritual Black Dimmensions" as well as on Covenant's "Nexus Polaris" both of which were pretty important releases, he's probably the most well known Australian BM musician.
Bands like Bestial Warlust, Destroyer 666, Spear of Longinus, Abyssic Hate etc are all pretty big overseas.
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No doubt this is all very true.
But, come on ... Australia?
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Meh see for yourself
Destroyer 666 - Australian and Anti-Christ (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=9411397063B01D3F)
Not their best track but a pretty fun one.
"We don’t forgive and we don’t forget
We’re just out for what we can get
We got denim vests and a sordid past
Too many drinks, tattoos and scars"
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I'm surprised nobody has said anything about Helmet. Listen to Helmet.
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Helmet are good, but not really metal, and certainly nothing like the bands listed.
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Arch Enemy - Wages of Sin
one of my favorite albums by anyone. when nothing in my colllection sounds appealling i can usually listen to that album with no problems. its awesome
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As has been mentioned Agollach is awesome. I have and thoroughly enjoy "Ashes Against the Grain".
-Blind Guardian is pretty epic Powerish Metal. The new album "A Twist in the Myth" is completly and totally amazing, but maybe thats because I just got it two days ago and the new album high hasn't worn off though. Still, songs like "Fly" and "the Dead Sound of Misery" are awesome. "Nightfall in Middle Earth" is another good place to start.
-Iced Earth is good heavy stuff. I actually bought their live album (Alive in Athens) first, but I dunno if everyone is weird like me, so I'll suggest "Something Wicked This Way Comes" or "Burnt Offerings"
-Demons and Wizards is literally the fusion of the two, and pretty good.
Therion has got to be my all time favorite band ever. They play what can be described as Opera Metal. Seriously, its amazing. First three albums, not so much (Death Metal) but then they started changing. Either album is good to start.
-Edguy is a really good Power Metal band with hilarious lyrics for the most part. I mean, they have a song asking where have all the clowns gone. Seriously. The "Superheroes" EP is my favorite album, but all of them have their merits. "Superheroes" is a good place to start though, since its cheap and very, very good.
-Korpiklaani is very folk oriented Metal that I love, but if you don't like folk you wont like them at all. I only have "Tales Along This Road", but its good.
-Symphony X for Progressive/Power Metal. Amazing music, one of the best/fastest/most technical Guitarists ever, and cool lyrical subjects (mythology and the like). A win! "The Odyssey" is a good place to start with them.
-Evergrey. Dark Progressive music with Heavy influences. I really like them. Best place to start with them would be "In Search of Truth" or "Recreation Day".
Those are probably my favorite bands, or at least the ones I can think of.
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Therion are Amazing I love all periods of their, probably the DM stuff a bit more. My top 3 from them would look something like this.
1. Beyond Sanctorum (seriously of the best dm albums ever)
2. Vovin (Matina Astner!!!)
3. Lemuria/Sirius B
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See, I'd have to go with Symphony Masses out of the three.
Out of the rest though, I have such a hard time choosing one to be my favorte. Sometimes Lepaca Kliffoth, sometimes Theli, etc.
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too much power metal :S
it's accesible, but it blows usually.
Laugh, nontheless i'd recommend: Avenged Sevenfold.
Anthrax, particularly their last studio album, We've come for you all.
Pantera. Then Down.
Corrosion of Conformity. it's extremly sabbathesque.
Black Label Society. Zakk Wylde's band, ex guitarist for ozzy osbourne.
Iron Maiden, d'oh, but you've probably heard them anyways
If you dig Pelican, id recommend: Neurosis, Isis, Russian Circles
On to the heavier metal.
zAo's been recommended twice already. they rock. but it's not accesible
Sepultura. teh sht. Roots Bloody Roots in particular.
Fear Factory(Archetype, obsolete, Demanufacture), Arch Enemy(anthems of rebellion is easy to listen to), As i Lay Dying(accesible black-ish metal)
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Speaking of Australian bands and doom, check out Virgin Black. They are a wonderful operatic doom band with some blackened stuff on their first cd. They definitely have a My Dying Bride influence.
More good doom and doomy bands: Cult of Luna (prog sludge), Morgion (MDB style doom/death), Shape of Despair (dreamy funeral doom)
Summoning is really epic black metal that feels almost doomy sometimes.
Also, I'm not really sure how one of the leading metalcore bands (As I Lay Dying) is blackish.
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!T.O.O.H.! are simply awesome.
sample: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B2A641813620C4E9
:)
that's a little too soon for someone just starting to get into it...but I second that.
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speaking of doom, i've just gotten aquainted with the sounds of monolithe. good stuff but i reckon that instead of having a song that goes for an hour it should have been split up into different tracks. but then thats just me.
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No doubt this is all very true.
But, come on ... Australia?
local bands from melbourne
Gospel of the Horns - thrash influenced black metal with ex members of destroyer 666 possibly the greatest band in melbourne
Fuck...i'm Dead - gore grind, recently toured with everybody's favorite recommendation anal cunt
The Berzerker - death grind there first album didn't actually make money because of the amount of property damage they had to pay off from the riots which ensued at their shows
if your looking for something quieter
alchemist - experimental prog metal these people own the melbourne underground
crimson fire - cheesy power metal but fun if you like that kind of thing
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Good list Gridgm
Gospel Of The Horns are indeed very good. The whole Austalian "War metal" (Blackened Thrash) scene is excellent, bands like "Gospel of The Horns", "Hobb's Angel of Death", "Destroyer 666", "Battalian", "Grenade"," Urgrund", "Abominator" and "Atomizer" (they're song "When I Die I Wanna Die Violently" is awesome, pretty much sums up that whole scene)...
Alchemist are from Canberra too :P
I'll add a few more bands, I think are the pick of the Aus Metal scene:
Earth - Really good DM with keyboards (sound reminds me a lot of Morbid Angel meets later At The Gates, also from Melbourne)
Reverend Kris Hades - Post Black / Ambient (former guitarist from Nazxul and the mighty Sadistik Ekekution, unbelievable Black Ambient stuff, highly reccomended)
Pod People - Doom (Stoner doom, really good riffs)
Portal - Experimental Black\Death ( Weird Atonal, Dissonant stuff, kinda like later Blut Aus Nord put without the industrial overtones, also highly reccomended)
Myrddraal - Epic Black Metal (kinda like Blood Fire Death era Bathory)
Chalice - Gothic / Doom (early My Dying Bride-ish with Female Vocals)
Arkheth - Symphonic BM (I used to live with the guitarist so I'm kinda obligated to plug them, very good, influenced by Abigor, Emperor, old Ulver that sort of thing).
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to this i would also add:
the amenta-industrial black/death
isgahaatt-melodic black metal, some proggish elements but overall very emperor.
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You guys...
Heartscarved!
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Can't be bothered to make sure these haven't been mentioned but...
Arsis if you like your metal fast and brutal but with a sense of melody
Xasthur is you like it droning, bleak and soulrending
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I think Opeth should be the new recommendation meme. Get some Opeth.
Also, Isis are pretty damn sweet.
And I'd like to know why nobody in here has said MASTODON yet?
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no one mentioned mastadoon because they are a metalcore band and we are looking at metal bands not cheap imitations, if you looked at the very first post he made as well you would have noticed what he wanted recomendations to be in the vein of which were essentially variations on the theme of doom and mastadoon come under none of these
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Mastodon a metalcore band? Maybe you should actually listen to the music instead of just going along with whatever dumb label some journalist wants to tag on to a band. The only thing that associated Mastodon to metalcore is that they are an American metal band who have come put in the last 5 years.
P.S; Don't pick on me for not sticking straight to the "doom" spirit of the original post, about half of the recommendations here have nothing to do with doom, and I don't see you getting a bug up your ass at them.
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Mastodoncould technically could be classifed as metalcore, but why would you bother? Hell, even the Encyclopaedia Metallum (http://www.metal-archives.com/) accept them as a metal act. They're a talented one at that, if you dig sludge.
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Linkin Park lolz
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Mastodon a metalcore band? Maybe you should actually listen to the music instead of just going along with whatever dumb label some journalist wants to tag on to a band. The only thing that associated Mastodon to metalcore is that they are an American metal band who have come put in the last 5 years.
P.S; Don't pick on me for not sticking straight to the "doom" spirit of the original post, about half of the recommendations here have nothing to do with doom, and I don't see you getting a bug up your ass at them.
Mastodoncould technically could be classifed as metalcore, but why would you bother?? Hell, even the Encyclopaedia Metallum (http://www.metal-archives.com/)? accept them as a metal act. They're a talented one at that, if you dig sludge.
Ahhh...i love it when i satrt an argument, firstly if you read the entry on the front page of encyclopedia metallium you may have noticed that they accepted them as a metal core act
"Metalcore, unless it's clearly more metal than core (e.g Shadows Fall, The Red Chord, Mastodon are OK: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine are NOT). If you are uncertain, best avoid submitting metalcore bands altogether."
Genre(s)
Sludge/Metalcore
next i don't listen to the "dumb journalist" i listen to the music myself and then decide what i want to classify it, i never said they were a bad band at any point i said they wern't metal in the traditional sense of the word and thus shouldn't be posted in a thread asking for metal recomendations, i own blood mountain and like the album i just calssified it as metal core
3rdly i am a fan of sludge and they don't really come under that catogory in my opinion (i usually listen to drone and stoner sludge though so that may have an effect)
anymore questions?
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Mastodon a metalcore band? Maybe you should actually listen to the music instead of just going along with whatever dumb label some journalist wants to tag on to a band. The only thing that associated Mastodon to metalcore is that they are an American metal band who have come put in the last 5 years.
P.S; Don't pick on me for not sticking straight to the "doom" spirit of the original post, about half of the recommendations here have nothing to do with doom, and I don't see you getting a bug up your ass at them.
Mastodoncould technically could be classifed as metalcore, but why would you bother?? Hell, even the Encyclopaedia Metallum (http://www.metal-archives.com/)? accept them as a metal act. They're a talented one at that, if you dig sludge.
Ahhh...i love it when i satrt an argument, firstly if you read the entry on the front page of encyclopedia metallium you may have noticed that they accepted them as a metal core act
"Metalcore, unless it's clearly more metal than core (e.g Shadows Fall, The Red Chord, Mastodon are OK: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine are NOT). If you are uncertain, best avoid submitting metalcore bands altogether."
Genre(s)
Sludge/Metalcore
next i don't listen to the "dumb journalist" i listen to the music myself and then decide what i want to classify it, i never said they were a bad band at any point i said they wern't metal in the traditional sense of the word and thus shouldn't be posted in a thread asking for metal recomendations, i own blood mountain and like the album i just calssified it as metal core
3rdly i am a fan of sludge and they don't really come under that catogory in my opinion (i usually listen to drone and stoner sludge though so that may have an effect)
anymore questions?
I ain't very discriminatory, I just know I liked Blood Mountain, it was a solid 7/10 album. More recommendations? Cynic is good for everyone. It comes off a little weird at first cuz of the synth vocals, but it grows on you and grows on you.
Other stuff? Spawn of Possession, uneXpect.
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I'm looking for some metal similar to Old Man's Child, specifically their Vermin.
I was particulary impressed by the guitar harmonies and the slow build towards the end, one of which I'm moe used to in power metal than black/death and the other in goth metal. Will early Dimmu Borgir or Satyircon (the two trains of descent I followed most easily) satiate me?
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wow...you gravitate towards black metal and then choose the shitest bands...why don't you just go listen to cradle of filth
sorry :( i just have un satiable need to troll on this thread for some reason)
melodic black metal
this is the list of bands on wiki and i can't be fucked goign into detail at the moment so just ask around for opinions on them
A Winter Within
Abigor
Aztec
Bak De Syv Fjell
Blinded By Faith
Catamenia
Chthonic
Dark Fortress
Devil May Care
Dissection
Dimmu Borgir
Dub Buk
Echoes of Silence
Emperor
Enslaved
Far Beyond
Full Moon LycanThropy
Graveworm
Fairytale Abuse
Hecate Enthroned
Illnath
Lord Belial
Martyrium
Mirrorthrone
Morgul
Moonshine
Morionor
M?rk Gryning
Naglfar
Nokturnal Mortum
Octinomos
Old Man's Child
Sacramentum
Sad Legend
Salacious Gods
Stormlord
Sykdom
Titan Mountain
Tvangeste
Vinterland
Winterhorde
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A whole bunch of bands
You missed IMO the greatest Melo BM band ever - The Covenenant "Nexus Polaris" is absolutely incredible
From that list Abigor is the pick, incredibly good, Nachthymnen and Orkblut are both excellent albums.
Saccramentum are also incredibly good "Far away from the Sun" is another essential album.
As for Old Man's Child I'm a huge fan of their album "Born of the Flickering" haven't heard much of their later stuff though...
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melodic black metal
Unsure of the specific genre, but when you said melodic black metal I thought of Dead Blue Sky (http://www.myspace.com/dbsmetal). Freaking EPIC live band, although in finding that link I discovered they split up. :(
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screw the mastodon argument, just download something of this, or buy it. i love it. thats all that matters to me..
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002N66FS.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1116137594_.jpg)
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since when was the leviathan a whale??...accprding to the bible (where he originated) he's a serpent
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Actually, leviathan in hebrew means whale.
I guess youre right about the bible, though, I just don't read that thing.
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thanks for that info...i'll add it to my learn something new every day folder
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wow...you gravitate towards black metal and then choose the shitest bands...why don't you just go listen to cradle of filth
It's not like I haven't listened to Emperor or Immortal.
They're just not as melodically pleasing.
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whats wrong with early satyricon and dimmu borgir? and early cradle for that matter?
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everybody listed a shit load of good bands, i dont know if anyone mentioned trivium, but theyre a nice little cheesey metallica clone
and how can you forget the tony danza tap dance extravaganze? tennessee metal is interesting.
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I just like the cute fishy.
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everybody listed a shit load of good bands, i dont know if anyone mentioned trivium, but theyre a nice little cheesey metallica clone
and how can you forget the tony danza tap dance extravaganze? tennessee metal is interesting.
I've never read any of your previous posts but
Good Sir
Trivium are fucking terrible.
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Thank you, Kai, for preempting my having to mock him and feel bad about it later.
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Hey dude, where's your car?
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everybody listed a shit load of good bands, i dont know if anyone mentioned trivium, but theyre a nice little cheesey metallica clone
and how can you forget the tony danza tap dance extravaganze? tennessee metal is interesting.
I've never read any of your previous posts but
Good Sir
Trivium are fucking terrible.
thats why i said theyre a "cheesey metallica clone"
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And why is that good?
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The best science article ever written. (http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-11/uor-ulb112106.php)
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I wonder if the writer of that article realised the pun they were making with the "True Black Metal" line.... That article is great
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Jesu.
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I wonder if the writer of that article realised the pun they were making with the "True Black Metal" line.... That article is great
"The key to creating black metal is an ultra-brief, ultra-intense beam of light called a femtosecond laser pulse. The laser burst lasts only a few quadrillionths of a second. To get a grasp of that kind of speed--a femtosecond is to a second what a second is to about 32 million years."
Hell ... it even reads like Cradle Of Filth lyrics.
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I already knew that true black metal involved some sort of ultra-intense blasts, but I thought it had to do with drums and not lasers. I stand corrected.
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I like Annihilator. Does anyone else like them?
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Some other good ones,
Slumber
BongZilla
Fintroll.
I've probably suggested every metal band that I like by now, throughout all of the metal threads.
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I like Annihilator.? Does anyone else like them?
I am a huge fan of the first two Annihilator albums. After that ... not so much. It's one of those "when we were young ...'-things. However, I recently saw Jeff Waters again on the DVD accompanying the RoadRunner United CD and that man is pretty insane with a guitar.
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too much power metal :S
it's accesible, but it blows usually.
impossible.
in terms of the straight power metal vein:
edguy - hellfire club
avantasia - the metal opera 1 & 2
blind guardian - imaginations from the other side (also as mentioned "nightfall..." and "twist in the myth")
dream evil - dragonslayer (the lyrics on this album put dragonforce to shame...in a fun way)
iced earth - horror show
to appeal to any heavier desires, while still staying near to power metal in terms of sound and content
evemaster (like power metal with bm shreaks)
wintersun
amon amarth - all albums (if you like one, you'll probably like em all, dear odin I hope they never evolve their style)
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anymore questions?
I have one. Why would you trust something which seems to categorise Bullet For My Valentine and Atreyu as metalcore to accurately apply the term to anyone? I'm not too great on the metal subgenres but hardcore I do know, and Mastodon definitely don't fit into the metalcore bracket. Thirty Seconds Until Armageddon, Stand, Fall Silent; that's what metalcore sounds like.
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I'm surprised nobody has said anything about Helmet. Listen to Helmet.
Paige Hamilton is a cockswipe. I boo you, sir.
I'm seconding Amon Amarth, as i happen to be listening to them right now.
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1) Best band ever: Psychotic Waltz
2) Technical/Jazzy wtf Music
DEATH
Atheist
Cynic
Watchtower
Mekong Delta
Pestilence
Intronaut
Behold... The Arctopus
Orthrelm
Gnostic
Ephel Duath
Twisted into Form
Linear Sphere
Psycroptic
Spiral Architect
Buckethead
Spastic Ink
Believer
Coprofago
Protest
Meshugga
Frederik Thordendahl's special defects
3) Brutal stuff smashing your ears
Hate eternal
Cryptopsy
Iniquity
Panzerchrist
Nasum
Neaera
Heaven shall burn
Cannibal Corpse
Carcass
Fleshgore
Krisiun
Kataklysm
Obituary
Suffocation
Terrorizer
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter
Arch enemy
Vader
Disbelief
Hypocrisy
Electric Massada
Morbid Angel
Ackercocke
Yyrkoon
Converge
Japanische Kampfh?rspiele (german grindcore/Punk)
4) Progressive Metal
Dream Theater
Liquid Tension Experiment
Queensryche
Ayreon
Nevermore
Star One
Opeth
Dead Soul Tribe
OSI
Mastodon
5) Doom,Stoner, Post-Hardcore-whatever music
Confessor
ISIS
Shape of Despair
Jesu
Cult of Luna
Pelican
Neurosis
Electric Wizard
Ahab
Kyuss
Anathema
Paradise Lost
YOB
Mourning Beloveth
My Dying Bride
6) Groovy stuff, thrash metal, industrial, metalcore etc.
Textures
Exodus
Anthrax
Machine Head
Death Angel
Fear Of God
Lamb of God
Clawfinger
Sepultura
Testament
Vio-Lence
Godmack
Fear Factory
Ministry
Between The Buried and Me
Pantera
Criminal
Weird Bands
UneXpecT
Carnival in Coal
Mr. Bungle
Naked City
Fantomas
especially for people who like agalloch-like music:
Solstafir - masterpiece of biterness
Omnio - in the woods
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Bongzilla
AMERIJUANICA! FUCK YES!
Believer
You know, for a christian metal band, they're actually really good. I have their last album and it's has a fucking violin-guitar solo trade-off. If you ignore all that stuff about Jesus it's fun to listen to.
Also, great list, props for Naked City.
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for a christian metal band, they're actually really good.
ERROR
DOES NOT COMPUTE
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I'm serious, and this is from a guy who walks around with an Atheist shirt.
Also, can anyone find the doom thread we had a while back? I cant seem to find it.
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I'm serious, and this is from a guy who walks around with an Atheist shirt.
:-o where the hell do you know THAT? ^^
btw: i don't really care about the band's belief as long as the lyrics aren't too religious
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No dude, I was talking about me. I walk around with an Atheist shirt.
Also, to quote Believer:
"Christ's life, death and resurrection
proof of absolute diety"
But in the same album:
"The God the heart needs
the mind only grieves"
And
"Reason argues the existence of God
if the incarnate was crusified
the dialectical paradox colcludes that God
has already died".
As an atheist, I like this album.
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'Post-Metal'-y:
Isis
Jesu
Pelican
Neurosis (newer)
Hardcore-Metal-y
Zao
Between the Buried and Me
Mastodon
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Doomy/Gothy/Blackish Metal
Opeth
Katatonia
My Dying Bride
Anathema
Apocalyptica
Novembre
Kick-assy metal
The Devin Townsend Band/Devin Townsend
Strapping Young Lad
Pitchshifter
Soilwork
Thats a good sampling of the 'non-nu' metal areas I think...lots more, but it's a start.
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Let's see what bands I can reccomend/repeat. XP
Proggressive metal:
Pain of Salvation
Symphony X
Dream Theater
Faith No More
Angra
Power Metal:
Blind Guardian
Iced Earth
Demons & Wizards
Sonata Arctica
Kamelot
Thrash:
Testament
Iced Earth
Demons & Wizards
Nevermore
Death/Melodic Death:
In Flames
Death
Opeth
Soilwork
Children of Bodom
Between the Buried and Me
Dark Tranquility
Simple Plan
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Between the Buried and Me is not death metal in the slightest. And really, nothing Soilwork has done in the past few years has been worth squat. I'm assuming Simple Plan is just a joke.
But the rest of that list is pretty good. I'd add Kamelot and Angra to the power metal list.
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Between the Buried and Me is not death metal in the slightest. And really, nothing Soilwork has done in the past few years has been worth squat. I'm assuming Simple Plan is just a joke.
But the rest of that list is pretty good. I'd add Kamelot and Angra to the power metal list.
Huh, I thought they rather fit the criteria from what I'd heard, and hella blast beats. But do share what you know that I don't. And I agree about Soilwork, I was refering more to old or mid Soilwork. Their latest CD might as well be metalcore, which is sad. And ah! I knew I was forgetting some bands. Thanks, added.
Oh, and yeah, Simple Plan was a joke.
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Soilwork's The Chainheart Machine is a really good album, actually.
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Between the Buried and Me is not death metal in the slightest. And really, nothing Soilwork has done in the past few years has been worth squat. I'm assuming Simple Plan is just a joke.
But the rest of that list is pretty good. I'd add Kamelot and Angra to the power metal list.
They are fucking math metal, they are no where near hardcore, or death metal.
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I'll just list some, categorize them like pricks if you want.
!T.O.O.H.!
Agathodaimon
Anata
Spawn of Possession
uneXpect
Meshuggah
the first two In Flames albums (because most of what followed was nothing but catchy licks)
Lykathea Aflame
Anomalous
Decapitated
Carcass
Suffocation
Blind Guardian
Slough Feg
I
Alcest
Negura Bunget
have fun.
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the first two In Flames albums (because most of what followed was nothing but catchy licks)
So?
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uneXpect
\m/
(http://www.unexpect.com/Photos/big/chaoth2.jpg)
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the first two In Flames albums (because most of what followed was nothing but catchy licks)
So?
it just kinda went downhill, really. I can't stand anything after Colony. Soundtrack to Your Escape was godawful. which is why I don't recommend anything after the first two albums.
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Between the Buried and Me is not death metal in the slightest. And really, nothing Soilwork has done in the past few years has been worth squat. I'm assuming Simple Plan is just a joke.
But the rest of that list is pretty good. I'd add Kamelot and Angra to the power metal list.
They are fucking math metal, they are no where near hardcore, or death metal.
*quirks eyebrow* Okay, so there's something I obviously didn't notice from the songs by them I've heard. Then again, I never could tell exactly what math metal was, and just kind of figured it was a usueless label that doesn't really need to exist.
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uneXpect
\m/
(http://www.unexpect.com/Photos/big/chaoth2.jpg)
yeah, i know...he's my avatar
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That instrument is fucking ridiculous.
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They are fucking math metal, they are no where near hardcore, or death metal.
Math metal is an oxymoron. BTBAM aren't metal. Metalcore, yes, but that's a whole different thing.
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HEY GUYS I'M NOT SURE IF I MENTIONED JUST HOW SAD AND ANNOYING METAL ELITISM IS BEFORE NOW, HAVE I? IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING I'D DO
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Sorry for talking the fucking truth. They ain't metal. That isn't any judgement on their quality or anything, half the stuff I listen to isn't metal. There is metal influence to their music, but there's also a lot of non-metal influence, and aesthetically and culturally they're not metal at all.
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Sorry for talking the fucking truth. They ain't metal. That isn't any judgement on their quality or anything, half the stuff I listen to isn't metal. There is metal influence to their music, but there's also a lot of non-metal influence, and aesthetically and culturally they're not metal at all.
Heavy as hell and lacking in emo vocals- in fact, they dont even sing that often that I'm aware of... But they're not metal? I guess heavieness isn't a factor. Could you go a little more into the details of why you don't believe they're metal? In the meantime, I guess I'll just research them some more.
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That instrument is fucking ridiculous.
haha, i know. He might play an 11-string on the next one. Have you seen the 42-string guitar? Played by Pat Metheny (not that great, I might add), google video his name, there's a 24-minute clip of one of their songs. It's decent, but I hate the chinese-sounding harp bit that he does.
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Heavy as hell and lacking in emo vocals- in fact, they dont even sing that
often that I'm aware of... But they're not metal? I guess heavieness isn't
a factor.
Heaviness has absolutely nothing to do with whether somethings metal or not. Terrorfakt are heavy as fuck and don't have emo vocals, but they're in no way metal.
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Heavy as hell and lacking in emo vocals- in fact, they dont even sing that
often that I'm aware of... But they're not metal? I guess heavieness isn't
a factor.
Heaviness has absolutely nothing to do with whether somethings metal or not. Terrorfakt are heavy as fuck and don't have emo vocals, but they're in no way metal.
I think we sort of established that heavieness wasn't a factor with you when I said "I guess heavieness isn't a factor". Would you like to elaborate on the actual reasons,
in more detail, why they're not in any way metal?
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I never said they were not 'in any way metal'. I said they do have a metal influence, but they are not metal. They don't use musical structures identified with metal, they don't share the aesthetic qualities of metal, they're lyrics style is pure hardcore, their vocal style doesn't really resemble anything to do with metal. They named themselves after a line in a Counting Crows song. Any of these things on their own wouldn't necessarily mean much, but together they definitely add up to the band just not being metal.
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Really, when I was saying that BtBaM was not death metal, I meant that they weren't metal at all, but I didn't want to stir shit up. But now that this debate has already surfaced, Khar's right. They're metalcore. Decent by metalcore standards, but still not metalcore.
And I actually think that all of In Flames' releases until Reroute to Remain are pretty enjoyable. Obviously their first two are their best and certainly their most original, but I have still been known to blast Pinball Map really loud at times.
Reroute and Soundtrack are fucking awful though. Come Clarity is listenable but not good, so I'm hoping that maybe they'll get back to making somewhat fun music again in the future.
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Pinball Map is a damn fine tune. The first time I saw In Flames live they opened with it, and it still remains one of the highpoints of my live music history. I must admit I barely ever listen to In Flames nowadays however, that goes for any of their albums.
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I find it interesting that there's some sort of metal heritage thing, or perhaps tradition is the better word. But by your own words, I've decided that black, death, doom, and any other kind of metal of any sort that came after metal was invented are not really metal. Their vocal and lyrical style were totally different from what metal was.
In fact, maybe Black Sabbath are the ONLY true metal band, being that they basicly invented it.[Then again, that might not be true, I'm sure others did it before them that just didn't get any attention or never made it.]
What you're saying leaves no room for innovation, development, or change... *shrug* Oh, and no shit stirred up at all, I think this is an interesting conversation. I'm not bothered, I hope no one else is. Tis just talk.
Sidenote: Pinball Map = \m/
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What you're saying leaves no room for innovation, development, or
change...
Not at all. What I'm saying is there's only so much you can innovate before what you have isn't metal. It's the same in any genre: there are tons of artists who incorporate folk elements who I wouldn't call folk in a million years. Also, in BTBAM's case, they're coming from somewhere outside metal and incorporating metal elements, not working from within metal and diversifying, which does make a difference. There is a very definite metal 'heritage' as you put it, or culture. Some bands write most of their songs about it. Metalheads, though in many ways a quite diverse group, have definite shared aesthetics, tastes, views and so forth that bind them in a sense of cameraderie. Metal is more than just a set of musical conventions.
Also, I'd point out that, since Black Sabbath were doom metal, you're slightly off in your silly contentions.
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Reed, Coltrane, Kid 606, fucking Lightning Bolt
Has nothing to do with this thread (ok, maybe lightning bolt), but those are fantastic albums.
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Yeah, rather than do the usual Anal Cunt/Slint thing, I figured I'd throw those out there. They aren't metal, no. But they definitely have a screeching, noisy, atonal, and yet amazing quality about them, at any rate. Which is kind of METAL in my book.
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I know, In Flames were decent up until Colony, but I just felt that the only two albums worth your time were the first two. Of course Pinball Map is a good song.
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What you're saying leaves no room for innovation, development, or
change...
Not at all. What I'm saying is there's only so much you can innovate before what you have isn't metal. It's the same in any genre: there are tons of artists who incorporate folk elements who I wouldn't call folk in a million years. Also, in BTBAM's case, they're coming from somewhere outside metal and incorporating metal elements, not working from within metal and diversifying, which does make a difference. There is a very definite metal 'heritage' as you put it, or culture. Some bands write most of their songs about it. Metalheads, though in many ways a quite diverse group, have definite shared aesthetics, tastes, views and so forth that bind them in a sense of cameraderie. Metal is more than just a set of musical conventions.
Also, I'd point out that, since Black Sabbath were doom metal, you're slightly off in your silly contentions.
Hm, all right. But how do you not "come from somewhere outside metal" when you're innovating it or inventing a new sound? I still say this means any metal band who put folk in there or any other elements like that arent metal. They're not coming from metal, they're coming from folk. They're just very influenced by metal. Same goes for the screaming or roaring, that wasn't originally part of metal heritage. Why do those things get made exceptions for?
You can't just pick a time where things suddenly cut off, where bands can no longer do things that origianally had nothing to do with metal. And Black Sabbath, Doom Metal? Yeah, I'm going to have to disregard that, I have no idea at all how they could be doom metal. They influenced or inspired it, but that definitely doesn't make them doom metal.al.
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Hm, all right. But how do you not "come from somewhere outside metal" when you're
innovating it or inventing a new sound? I still say this means any metal band who
put folk in there or any other elements like that arent metal. They're not coming
from metal, they're coming from folk. They're just very influenced by metal.
Same goes for the screaming or roaring, that wasn't originally part of metal
heritage. Why do those things get made exceptions for?
You can't just pick a time where things suddenly cut off, where bands
can no longer do things that origianally had nothing to do with metal.
Between the Buried and Me do not come from a musical background of metal. The largest band that members have previously been involved in was Prayer For Cleansing, a straigthedge metalcore band. Straightedge is almost culturally diametric to metal. Whilst one of them was in an MDM band (Undying) their other former bands (Voids, Azazel, From Here On) are all hardcore or metalcore groups, none of them metal enough to be mentioned on metal archives. BTBAM are signed to Victory records, a hardcore/metalcore/ska/pop-punk label, with stablemates like Aiden,The Black Maria, Comeback Kid, Silverstein, Minus, Streetlight Manifesto, Catch 22, Voodoo Glow Skulls etc. They tour with bands like Norma Jean, The Junior Varsity, Fear Before the March of Flames, Into the Moat and Misery Signals, They aren't metalheads, they don't come from or engage with the metal underground, they don't interact with metal labels, distros or venues, they very rarely tour with metal bands (and then borderline grind crossover acts), they don't share the most basic ethics of metal, they don't act like metalheads,they don't dress like metalheads and they don't play fucking metal. This all adds up to a very big dose of NOT FUCKING METAL. As I said, I'm not saying this makes them shit or anything but they are NOT. FUCKING. METAL. They're hardcore kids pissing around with a few gothenburg licks. Nothing more, nothing less. You're critically fucking misunderstanding what I'm saying, possibly willfully, if you think what I'm saying is there is no room for innovation within the framework of metal. There is plenty, but within the framework of metal. BTBAM are innovating within the framework of hardcore by incorporating metal elements, not vice versa. Just compare metal-based crossover acts like Stormtroopers of Death to actually see the difference.
And Black Sabbath, Doom Metal? Yeah, I'm going to have to disregard
that, I have no idea at all how they could be doom metal. They influenced
or inspired it, but that definitely doesn't make them doom metal.
Black Sabbath are clearly listed in the Metal Archives as 'Heavy/Traditional, Doom Metal'. Wikipedia notes 'Heavy metal sub-genres Doom metal, Stoner metal, and Sludge metal reflect a direct influence from Black Sabbath, especially the slower, heavier style on the band's earlier albums' (emphasis mine). Have you actually heard any of Sabbaths songs? Like, say, Electric Funeral? Children of the Grave? Into The Void? Evil Eye? Lord of This World? Over and Over? Under The Sun, Every Day Comes? Now, have you ever heard doom bands like Candlemass, Cathedral, Witchfinder General, Orange Goblinetc.? Of course Black Sabbath were fucking doom. 'Hand of Doom' is why we fucking call it Doom. After all (to quote wikipedia again, sorry, I know it's shit but sometimes it's right) "[Doom Metal] is strongly influenced by the early work of Black Sabbath, and a number of early Black Sabbath tracks, such as "Black Sabbath", are often considered embryonic or prototypical doom metal songs. Many of the tracks on their third album Master of Reality (released in 1971) seem to have more in common with what today is seen as doom metal, with tracks such as "Sweet Leaf", "Into The Void", and "Children of the Grave" that featured Tony Iommi's guitar (and presumably Geezer Butler's bass) tuned down to C# for heavier riffing and reduced string tension for his previously injured fingers." They not just inspired doom metal, they were, for several albums, pretty much pure doom, in the classic sense.
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I'm not willfully misundetstanding, I assure you. Clearly this is pointless, because I don't believe ANY of that matters in the least. I've never believed in heritage, tradition, or fitting into a culture. But I see what you believe and I'm done questioning it. So since you've made your self perfectly clear and I see what you're saying, I'd like to ask this new question inspired by something you said.
Let me make a set up here, this is sort of a "what if" question with no bearing on reality. So, members from these bands: Less Than Jake, Linkin Park, Incubus, and Hoobastank, form one band. And they form Opeth. [Far fetched and idioticly impossible, I'm sure, CutMan knows that]. And I'm not saying they copy them, I'm saying this is an alternat reality where they ARE Opeth. And then Opeth signs to Victory and tours with Atreyu. Are they metal?
Okay, fine, consider them what you want. And yes, I've heard Sabbath. And yes, I've heard Cathedral and Candlemass, mostly Candlemass[Good band], and I still don't see how you can call them doom metal. So let's forget about that, shall we? No point there. *shrugs*
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I have a fever and the only prescription is "MORE COW BELL" :-P that's my suggestion, and of course Tool.
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Let me make a set up here, this is sort of a "what if" question with no bearing on reality. So, members from these bands: Less Than Jake, Linkin Park, Incubus, and Hoobastank, form one band. And they form Opeth. [Far fetched and idioticly impossible, I'm sure, CutMan knows that]. And I'm not saying they copy them, I'm saying this is an alternat reality where they ARE Opeth. And then Opeth signs to Victory and tours with Atreyu. Are they metal?
The fact that it's obviously impossible makes it hardly worth considering, although the answer would be yes. Remember that BTBAM does not even play metal.
I still don't see how you can call them doom metal.
Then you're quite frankly an idiot.
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Let me make a set up here, this is sort of a "what if" question with no bearing on reality. So, members from these bands: Less Than Jake, Linkin Park, Incubus, and Hoobastank, form one band. And they form Opeth. [Far fetched and idioticly impossible, I'm sure, CutMan knows that]. And I'm not saying they copy them, I'm saying this is an alternat reality where they ARE Opeth. And then Opeth signs to Victory and tours with Atreyu. Are they metal?
The fact that it's obviously impossible makes it hardly worth considering, although the answer would be yes. Remember that BTBAM does not even play metal.
I still don't see how you can call them doom metal.
Then you're quite frankly an idiot.
Ah, yes, what if questions never really have any bearing on anything. I just thought it would be interesting. Also, we're passed BTBAM, we're not talking about them anymore, why'd you mention them? I already know what you think they play. And by the way, are you this much of an ass with everyone who dissagrees with you? I've gone out of my way to be nice to you even after you obviously got rather indignant. And now I'm an idiot? I think someone needs a cat nap, Mr. Grumpy-pants.
And I'm doing a lot of research into doom metal now, and you know what, I dont think I even know what doom metal is. Candlemass is called doom metal, but I dont see whats so "doom" about what I've heard. In fact, if they are doom metal, then Nevermore must be a cross between doom metal and thrash.
Since I dont really listen to doom, I aparrantly thought of it as being something it's not.
Do everyone a kind favor and learn how to have a conversation with someone who's mistaken about something without insulting them.
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I can easily conduct a conversation with someone who is mistaken if they do not keep on restating their ignorance. For example, you've gone on about how you don't consider Black Sabbath to be doom...and then admitted you know nothing about fucking doom. You're not just ignorant, you're willfully so, and I can be rude to whoever I damn well please, quite frankly. If you think I've been insulting, then you've obviously got a very thin skin. Also, whilst I'm here I should point out that you're method of formatting your posts is utterly retarded.
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I can easily conduct a conversation with someone who is mistaken if they do not keep on restating their ignorance. For example, you've gone on about how you don't consider Black Sabbath to be doom...and then admitted you know nothing about fucking doom. You're not just ignorant, you're willfully so, and I can be rude to whoever I damn well please, quite frankly. If you think I've been insulting, then you've obviously got a very thin skin. Also, whilst I'm here I should point out that you're method of formatting your posts is utterly retarded.
Actually, I've rarely SEEN you conduct a conversation
that remained civil for very long, but I wont get personal, why do that.
For the record, I was quite sure I DID know what doom was. And you know what? I believe I actually did, you had me confused for a post there, but I've checked this out further, I've talked to people who really know what doom is. And they all told me I was right in the first place. Doom is a slower, darker style. Depressingly so quite often, which is the intended effect. An ominous style. Black Sabbath had some slower, menacing songs... Notice the word "some"? Quite a bit of what they did was kind of felt more like "rock", but it was heavier than anything before them so it became "metal". You listen to a song by them like "Fairies Wear Boots" and then tell me their doom.
The one who's willingly ignorant is you, you live inside your own little world where you think you know everything there is to know about what is or isn't metal. I swear, you're going to end up- if you arent already, one of those people who sit around talking about how "back in the day, we had real metal." And for the record, when you start calling people idiots... Uh, you're being insulting. Of course, the fact that I think you're insulting doesnt mean I have "a thin skin". I don't give a shit, I just thought I'd point it out.
And I'll format my posts however I want them to be formatted, nice attempt at a personal insult though, too bad this was never supposed to be personal to begin with.
Have a nice day.
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Congratulations on still being a fucking idiot, and on making this far more personal than I ever did. Here's a guy who thinks Demons and Wizards are thrash, Faith No More are Prog and Children of Bodom are MDM telling me I'm ignorant for thinking I know everything about metal. I do despair sometimes, I really fucking do.
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Demons & Wizards, if I did what I intended to, were put on both my "thrash" reccomendations and on my "power metal" reccomendations. Because they have a great deal in common with both. Faith No More being prog is a bit of a stretch, but I didn't know where else to put them, I figured it was close enough. So hey, And as for Children of Bodom, if they're not melodic death metal... What are they exactly? Bouncy Death with catchy riffs? Folk metal? Morbidly goofy metal? And you really do seem to think you know everything about metal. Tell me something that makes me wrong about you- something solid, give me anytrhing, and I'll gladly take back ANY or all of what I said about you. I'm not being sarcastic here. I'll take back any remarks about you thinking you know everything or being arrogant.
And I apoligize if I made it a little "more" personal. It was a little hard not to, what with you delving into judging my intelligence. Kind of just came naturally, kind of like you calling me an "idiot" came naturally and wasnt personal or insulting at all.
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Now you've gone from being brain-freezingly annoying to just really funny.
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*claps* Bravo, and so ends another episode of "Attempting to Talk to a Know-it-all". Tune in next time when KharBevNor says nothing of any relevance in the closing of what was started as a friendly converstaion- again! Glad you're amused, guess your "a thin skin" healed over the wound my brain-reezing annoyingness tore into your flesh.
Oh, another reccomendation. To atleast partly make up for going so off topic, sorry about that whoever originally started this- I forgot your name Some sort of death, I'm finished with sub-sub labels: Amorphis.
Damn good band, whatever the hell they are.
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I want to think you're talking about The Karelian Isthmus, I really do. In actuality, what I have said has been of quite a bit of relevance (because it has actually been right).
I'm sorry, but I really want you to keep talking because this stuff you keep coming out with (I presume you would call it 'wit') is just pure fucking gold.
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Uh, actually, I am. That and Tales From the Thousand Lakes. And you've said things with relevance before, it's what you ended it with that was irrelevant. You told me I was amusing...and... That was it.
And wit? I wouldn't go that far... Sarcasm maybe? I was done, but if you want to keep talking, why not. *shrugs*
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Have I pimped Arsis in this thead yet? Because more people should listen to Arsis.
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Have I pimped Arsis in this thead yet? Because more people should listen to Arsis.
Never heard of them till now, but I'm checking them out now. Very nice,
love the guitar work.
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Silly 'tards. Listen to
NAPALM DEATH.
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Silly 'tards. Listen to
NAPALM DEATH.
No, don't just listen to them, listen to "You Suffer". On repeat.
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Have I pimped Arsis in this thead yet? Because more people should listen to Arsis.
I like 'em a little bit, but I ain't too happy about James Malone's love affair with symettric major third lines. It's getting kinda old. That being said, A Diamond For Disease is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.
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"You Suffer" is quickly turning into Old Meme (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Old_meme)
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Demilich. Just for laughs. Google em on their site you can get almost all their songs. The lead singers vocals sound like a constant belch. Funny Stuff.
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"You Suffer" is quickly turning into [img=http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Old_meme>http://Old Meme[/img]
Old? Yes. Too short to ever really get old by listening standards? Yes. It's on my list of songs that are just there, they may be old, but it's some kind of classic. Like- and I hope I don't get crucified by someone for this comparison, but hey, I love risks, Master of Puppets. Gotten old? Yes. Mentioned constantly? Yes.
But is it a classic? Yes.
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Like- and I hope I don't get crucified by someone for this comparison, but hey, I love
risks, Master of Puppets. Gotten old? Yes. Mentioned constantly? Yes.
But is it a classic? Yes.
Metallica sucks, but I say that cheerfully and with no lack of respect for their listeners. It wouldn't be wise for me to diss Metallica fans, for I am guilty of something stronger: I hate pretty much aaalllll metal I've ever heard. So it goes.
On Metallica, though, "Damage Inc." is a pretty great song.
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I only like S&M, for real
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Have I pimped Arsis in this thead yet? Because more people should listen to Arsis.
I like 'em a little bit, but I ain't too happy about James Malone's love affair with symettric major third lines. It's getting kinda old. That being said, A Diamond For Disease is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.
I got over Arsis, like, two years ago. I always thought them exceptional mainly because of the drumming tbh. Van Dyne's pretty much up there with Hellhammer in my book.
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Well uh... I still like them.
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I still like them too. They fill a very specific musical need for me. Can anyone recommend other bands in the same vein? I like the BM influenced vocals.
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Have I pimped Arsis in this thead yet? Because more people should listen to Arsis.
I like 'em a little bit, but I ain't too happy about James Malone's love affair with symettric major third lines.? It's getting kinda old.? That being said, A Diamond For Disease is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.
I got over Arsis, like, two years ago. I always thought them exceptional mainly because of the drumming tbh. Van Dyne's pretty much up there with Hellhammer in my book.
Yeah, he's pretty kickass, but A Diamond For Disease is a good enough reason for me to continue to like the band. I orgasm everytime I hear the guitar break. What do you think of Tomas Corn?
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Old? Yes. Too short to ever really get old by listening standards? Yes. It's on my list of songs that are just there, they may be old, but it's some kind of classic. Like- and I hope I don't get crucified by someone for this comparison, but hey, I love risks, Master of Puppets. Gotten old? Yes. Mentioned constantly? Yes.
But is it a classic? Yes.
I mentioned "You Suffer" as being Old Meme because it would seem that a great deal of the times it's mentioned is in jest. It just seems that every time the words "Napalm" and "Death" are put together on the internet, the next post is inevitably going to be something along the lines of "LOL You Suffer LOL."
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My metal suggestion is not to listen to metal at all.
But I kid!!
(forgiveness, please)
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Great, you just had to do this, now we have to crush your skull into pieces, harvest what's left of your brain, and mix it all into a soup.... You have any idea how much trouble that is?
Old? Yes. Too short to ever really get old by listening standards? Yes. It's on my list of songs that are just there, they may be old, but it's some kind of classic. Like- and I hope I don't get crucified by someone for this comparison, but hey, I love risks, Master of Puppets. Gotten old? Yes. Mentioned constantly? Yes.
But is it a classic? Yes.
I mentioned "You Suffer" as being Old Meme because it would seem that a great deal of the times it's mentioned is in jest. It just seems that every time the words "Napalm" and "Death" are put together on the internet, the next post is inevitably going to be something along the lines of "LOL You Suffer LOL."
Ah, well, I wasn't really making fun of it or jesting. So that's atleast a little differrent than what I was doing.