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Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Narr on 12 Sep 2006, 18:25
So, I'm doing this presentation in my Music History class tomorrow.  My topic was, in essense, modern music.  Because I could go on forever about music post WWII, I decided to narrow it down into the very generic "rock" music.

In the 80s, I'm gonna talk about Michael Jackson, king of Pop rock.  I listened to a bunch of his songs I happened to have on my computer, and began to be very sad.

Why did such a talented artist that made such good music have to go completely batshit insane?  :(

I'm sure there's been other bands that have suffered from similar fates, so please edumacate me on them if you would.  And talk about Michael.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: jcknbl on 12 Sep 2006, 18:50
Daddy problems.


Also, he likes having sex with boys. He probably always had problem we just didn't find out about them for awhile.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Lines on 12 Sep 2006, 18:56
i think it because he didn't get a real childhood. lots of children stars have had problems, and i think he's another one of them. however, i think there's more than just that because dude got problems.

it is kind of sad though. he is a very talented performer. but he's weird as hell.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: IronOxide on 12 Sep 2006, 18:56
He was forced into show businuess so quickly he never had a chance to be a real kid. And that fucked him up. Bad.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: nuisance on 12 Sep 2006, 19:12
Yeah, it adds an air of tragedy to some damn cute and cheery pop songs from those pre-teen years in the Jackson Five.  

I reckon (the nigh identical) 'ABC' and 'I Want You Back' are awesome, also went through a period of major Quincy Jones obsession in my mid-20s and got hooked on 'Off The Wall'.  'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' and 'Rock With You' are two of my favourite dance tracks ever and the Stevie Wonder-written 'I Can't Help It' is beeeeauuutiful.

I'm not much of a fan of the 80s business, although I still can't fathom how I'm not completely sick of 'Billy Jean'.  It's had little resurgences in the dance community (or communities I've been part of) so many times, comes out at any kind of retro / kitchen sink / mash-up night, etc. been sampled by everyone from Losoul to THE MOTHERUCKING RESIDENTS!?, been obsessed over and dissected to death by all my music-loving friends and it's still awesome.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Gryff on 12 Sep 2006, 19:28
Quote from: ironoxide887
...And that fucked him up. .
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Brian Majestic on 12 Sep 2006, 22:53
It all started shortly after the release of his song "It Don't Matter If You're Black or White (as long as you're under 12)"
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Sep 2006, 04:05
COS THAT BITCH IS CRAAAAAAAAAAAY-ZAAAAAAAAY
YEAH THAT BITCH IS CRAAAAAAAAAY-ZAAAAAAAAAY


I dunno.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Narr on 13 Sep 2006, 05:06
Quote from: nuisance
Yeah, it adds an air of tragedy to some damn cute and cheery pop songs from those pre-teen years in the Jackson Five.  

I reckon (the nigh identical) 'ABC' and 'I Want You Back' are awesome, also went through a period of major Quincy Jones obsession in my mid-20s and got hooked on 'Off The Wall'.  'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' and 'Rock With You' are two of my favourite dance tracks ever and the Stevie Wonder-written 'I Can't Help It' is beeeeauuutiful.

I'm not much of a fan of the 80s business, although I still can't fathom how I'm not completely sick of 'Billy Jean'.  It's had little resurgences in the dance community (or communities I've been part of) so many times, comes out at any kind of retro / kitchen sink / mash-up night, etc. been sampled by everyone from Losoul to THE MOTHERUCKING RESIDENTS!?, been obsessed over and dissected to death by all my music-loving friends and it's still awesome.
Yeah, no kidding.  That's actually the Michael song I'll be using in my presentation today.  I'm debating whether or not to include a bit of the music video in my presentation, but at this point, I don't think I'll have time and fit it in the length the teacher is going to allow.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: nuisance on 13 Sep 2006, 06:07
You're aware that song was the first song by a black artist played on MTV?  Might be good for illustrating worthiness beyond just saying it's kinda cool...
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Orbert on 13 Sep 2006, 10:36
Quote from: nuisance
Yeah, it adds an air of tragedy to some damn cute and cheery pop songs from those pre-teen years in the Jackson Five.  

I reckon (the nigh identical) 'ABC' and 'I Want You Back' are awesome, also went through a period of major Quincy Jones obsession in my mid-20s and got hooked on 'Off The Wall'.  'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' and 'Rock With You' are two of my favourite dance tracks ever and the Stevie Wonder-written 'I Can't Help It' is beeeeauuutiful.

I'm not much of a fan of the 80s business, although I still can't fathom how I'm not completely sick of 'Billy Jean'.  It's had little resurgences in the dance community (or communities I've been part of) so many times, comes out at any kind of retro / kitchen sink / mash-up night, etc. been sampled by everyone from Losoul to THE MOTHERUCKING RESIDENTS!?, been obsessed over and dissected to death by all my music-loving friends and it's still awesome.

Right there with you.

I grew up with the Jackson 5ive (yes, I'm that old) and watched Michael Jackson evolve from a talented kid lead singer to a really talented singer and dancer. But somewhere along the way, he lost his mind and seemed to want to become Diana Ross. Then he wanted to become The White Diana Ross. A skin condition, right, uh-huh.

True story: We were watching a thing on TV one time, back when Michael was still immensely popular, and he was receiving some kind of award (probably MTV). They showed clips from all throughout his career, from the Jackson 5ive onward. My son, then four or five years old, turns and asks

"Michael Jackson... used to be... black?"

It's a joke now, but I'm sure my son had never heard it. He was honestly confused trying to resolve the images of early Michael Jackson with the later freakshow.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Narr on 13 Sep 2006, 10:46
Quote from: nuisance
You're aware that song was the first song by a black artist played on MTV?  Might be good for illustrating worthiness beyond just saying it's kinda cool...
Ahh, no, I didn't realize that was the first one.  I thought Michael's first song he made a video to was a different one.  Now I wish I'd have mentioned that fact. :(

@ Orbert:

Seriously, the whole skin condition thing is almost comical.  I understand what the skin condition they claimed he had IS, but he bleached his skin white, one way or another.  What's worse is his nose.  I can't believe he's claimed that he never had more than, like, one surgery.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Sep 2006, 14:12
Quote from: Narr
What's worse is his nose.  I can't believe he's claimed that he never had more than, like, one surgery.


Nah, it was just one really bad one.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: nuisance on 13 Sep 2006, 16:45
Quote from: Narr
I thought Michael's first song he made a video to was a different one.

I've seen vids for earlier songs, but 'Billie Jean' was the first one MTV played.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: KharBevNor on 13 Sep 2006, 16:59
Haha you people really care about Michael Jackson.

The man has some tolerable, slightly fun but heavily overplayed songs, nothing more.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Rebourne on 14 Sep 2006, 21:42
What makes me sad is that Sid Barret went too crazy to make music...

Michael Jackson is just wow... gross...

His dancing and music is awesome though!
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: chamberk on 15 Sep 2006, 00:17
Billie Jean was one of the best songs of the 80s.  I can claim that, being born in the 80s.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Sep 2006, 09:06
Quote from: Rebourne
What makes me sad is that Sid Barret went too crazy to make music...


Syd.
Title: Why did he have to go crazy?
Post by: Rebourne on 16 Sep 2006, 12:50
Righto, my bad, thanks.