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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Johnny C on 01 Oct 2006, 13:02
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There are bands and albums that everyone else likes that I just can't bring myself to enjoy. For example, I've been told that it is comparable to a sex crime that I don't like Gang Of Four, although to be fair I've only heard Solid Gold. I just don't like that record's dynamics and the way that it just kind of sits there without pricking up the nerves like bands that supposedly ape GO4 are able to do.
And I can't stand a lot of classic rock, especially The Rolling Stones and Led Zepplin. The former have definitely turned me off since, well, basically I was born: 1988 was a bad time for them to continue working with "hey guys, let's keep releasing albums many years into our long irrelevant career," a decision they've stuck to since about the mid-seventies. Zep, on the other hand, have always come across as a posturing bunch of elitist "hard" rockers, hell-bent on technical prowess over the finer points of songcraft. Both of these bands have songs which are exceptions, of course, but for the most part I'm still not a fan.
What are albums or bands that everyone is shocked to hear that you guys don't like, and more importantly why don't you like them?
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I agree about the Stones and Zeppelin, with a few exceptions. I hate 'Satisfaction.' I think that riff, though relentlessly catchy, is ugly, tuneless and abrasive, but then that's probably why they liked it; it's also why I hate it. I do, of course, like quite a few of their songs though; I like that recent one, 'Rain Falls Down,' and 'Start Me Up,' and a few others, but that's about it.
As for Zep, they were just major masturbators. Their live shows were just the musical equivalent of wanking for two hours, with occasionaly good bits in between. I also hate 'Stairway To Heaven.' It's got obvious chords, terrible lyrics, and a rudimentary solo that I could play within about two minutes of listening to the song for the first time. It's awful. And Jimmy Page's Satanism fixation just means I can't take them seriously. Now this is all a bit rich from me because most of my favourite bands are bloated, self-indulgent, pretentious bands with kitchen-sink production. This is true, and I like a few Zeppelin tracks that manage all of that while also squeezing out a good tune, or making it seem appropriate. Basically, I like 'Kashmir' and 'No Quarter' and occasionally 'Immigrant Song.' Nothing else comes to mind.
I also find that most of the songs that people say are Beatles 'classics' I absolutely hate. Now, I think the Beatles were probably the greatest band ever, but the fact that out of their astounding catalogue The Beatles is seen as one of their best albums and 'I Am The Walrus,' 'Revolution Nine,' 'Yellow Submarine' and 'Let It Be' two of their greatest songs boggles my mind. It's ridiculous. The Beatles would make an extraordinary single album, but there is so much unadulterated crap on there that I can't believe how lauded it is.
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I never much cared for the Beatles. Before you all completely crucify me for this, I fully acknowledge their influence on music, I just never liked them. I don't have an outright hatred for them, I just don't care about them at all.
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I cant stand The Rolling Stones, I don't like the Beatles (although I do like Lennon's solo work, listening to Plastic Ono Band right now).
I do, though, love Led Zeppelin. I think they were one of the best bands to exist.
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I am pretty much the opposite here, i really like many many things i am not supposed to. People on Gabbly have incesntly heard this, but I really like Hilary Duff's latest singles, Wake Up in particular is an amazing song, although not quite as amazing as Ashlee Simpson's work, Boyfriend has a killer riff and chorus, La La was rather good too, Pieces of Me was a very good song, but L.O.V.E. is simply put one of the best songs I've heard lately, catchy as hell and even better than the Orange Juice song of the same name.
As or the Stones, I rather like them until Exile... although my favourite song is definetely Start Me Up, Led Zep I really ove I II and Physical Grafitti. the rest is neither here nor there.
I also think 90s REM was far better than 80s REM, and i am told that is also nonsense.
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That counts too, Emilio!
Also everyone who likes music reviewing and discussion of the popular music canon should read Kill Your Idols (http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Your-Idols-Generation-Reconsiders/dp/1569802769), a book in which albums from Exile On Main St. to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot are ripped apart in essays by critics who hate the album, the artists involved, or both.
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Zep, on the other hand, have always come across as a posturing bunch of elitist "hard" rockers, hell-bent on technical prowess over the finer points of songcraft.
I agree, and this is basically what I was going to say about Led Zeppelin. I also just can't get into Pink Floyd. I find them dreadfully boring. Same with Broken Social Scene, for the most part.
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For me, it's usually that I don't have the time or money to check them all out (and I only started pretty recently). As a result, there is a lot of "canonical" music that I've never heard. But I'm working on it.
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What i posted in the 'interpol' thread is also valid here.
I prefer New Order to Joy Divison
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Where the hell is KJS? You need to help me defend Zeppelin dude! ZEPPELIN!
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I think everyone already knows how much I dislike The Decemberists. In my stupider days I used to bring it up at every opprotunity.
It's Colin Meloy's voice coupled with the lame pirate gimmick. Ugh. I hear Crane Wife is different though, maybe I'll check it out.
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As for Zep, they were just major masturbators. Their live shows were just the musical equivalent of wanking for two hours, with occasionaly good bits in between. I also hate 'Stairway To Heaven.' It's got obvious chords, terrible lyrics, and a rudimentary solo that I could play within about two minutes of listening to the song for the first time. It's awful. And Jimmy Page's Satanism fixation just means I can't take them seriously.
This is coming from the kid who digs Blink 182.
Go home.
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Robert Plant is a slimy fuck
John Bonham man, he really sucked
Those greedy fuckers, those phony shits
They made their money off idiots
I hate Led Zeppelin
12 dollar concerts were all the rage
They bought cocaine for Jimmy Page
"Stairway to Heaven" makes me see red
Bonzo's buried, only three more left
I hate Led Zeppelin
--Screeching Weasel, c.1989
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Hmm . . . If you don't mind me cheating a little, I'm going to nominate one artist and two albums:
"Classic" pop/rockish stuff: not too keen on Bob Dylan. Can't sing for shit, can't play a guitar for shit, can't play the harmonica for shit, and to my ear his lyric-writing is wildly over-rated.
More recent stuff: Modest Mouse. I've only heard The Moon & Antarctica, but I cannot for the life of me see why everyone gushes over it so much. Killer first two songs, one or two other good ones in there, but my god it draaaaaaaaags in the middle.
And perhaps the big one: Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. For several years I listened almost exclusively to jazz, but I could never get into this album. I mean it's lovely, sure, but it's just too static: jazz has to have a bit of bounce to it, it has to swing, for god's sake! Kind of Blue just hits a groove and pretty much stays there for three-quarters-of-an-hour. I'm a fan of all the musicians involved in the record, but the record itself just doesn't go anywhere. When it comes to Miles Davis, give me the first quintet any day.
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Um, I DISAGREE with everything you just said, Innie. Especially about Dylan. But okay! That is what this thread is for.
Also everyone who likes music reviewing and discussion of the popular music canon should read Kill Your Idols (http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Your-Idols-Generation-Reconsiders/dp/1569802769), a book in which albums from Exile On Main St. to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot are ripped apart in essays by critics who hate the album, the artists involved, or both.
JC, this is a very good book. My girlfriend bought it for me a while back. It's fun reading about how shit all your favourite albums are!
As for me, I think Zep are overrated to some extent, although I still dig 'em, especially their first album, and other songs like 'Houses of the Holy' and 'When the Levee Breaks'.
Hmm, what else? I find it hard to listen to Pink Floyd these days because they got so thrashed by some of my friends during high school. I don't like The Eagles much (probably not alone on this one I suspect), and I hate most of the songs Queen put out.
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Man the thing about wreckin' the canon is that it makes those of us who love the bands dissed re-evaluate what we love about them, and usually it strengthens our love of them anyways. It's like reverse psychology or something.
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OK... *sleeves rolled up*
"classic" stuff:
After being exposed to large quantities of Bobs Dylan and Marley by workmates and close friends for many years I still fail to give a shit about either of them. Not that I think they're bad, I'm just largely uninterested in their music.
My favourite Stones material is when they found disco, singles like Miss You and Emotional Rescue.
I find James Brown, by and large, boring. Awesome, awesome bands, pity about the songs.
I can't stand Neil Young. His album 'Trans' is pretty funny, cos it predates Trans Am by a good decade or so, but sounds pretty much the same.
The less classic, "rock snob" canon selections:
I prefer sold-out, crooner Bryan Ferry material to Eno-era Roxy Music. Actually, now I think about it, I prefer Eno's ambient recordings to his rock albums, which is probably considered naughty by some.
I find Nick Drake's 'Pink Moon' cold and boring, not all harrowing and whatever else.
I don't like 80s hardcore. I don't mind Fugazi's Waiting Room, but I guess that's their big song for those who don't otherwise give two shits about the whole business.
I don't particularly like post-punk (i.e. what was happening in the late 70s, early 80s in Britain), although sometimes there were a few good songs going. Well, in some ways I love it, but I don't like listening to it. I own one Wire album somewhere, and have some PIL singles, but that's about as far as my enthusiasm stretches. I'm including Joy Division in here too.
Can't stand Gram Parsons.
Contemporary stuff:
I never really liked Public Enemy.
I quite like some Björk (she's an excellent gateway to her generally very creative collaborators - I was shocked when she just took a bunch of other people's tracks wholesale and sang on them for 'Vespertine'), quite like some Beck (although since 'Seachange' the return of the po-mo thing is broing the tits off me.. yet I don't want to hear another 'Seachange'... hmm), and quite like some PJ Harvey (of course, I'd go for 'Is This Desire?', for its more electronic focus). These are all artists who it seems like critics are unwilling to say a bad word about.
I don't like Aphex Twin or Boards of Canada. I became obsessed with post-dance electronica around 93-94, so not liking either of these artists kind of ruins other electronica fans' minds, it seems.
I think chart rap is more inventive, honest and inspiring than conscious/backpacker/indie stuff. By and large. The love given to artists like Jurassic 5 honestly makes me furious. And it's really dumb to get furious about music taste. Let's not talk about The Roots. Ooh great, there's a hip-hop act who embody the tired values of rock critics - let's all get excited about it!
Dunno if this is anti-canonical or what, but I love R&B singles. I love R Kelly's Ignition Remix, I think Beyonce's Crazy In Love is one of the best songs of the millenium (maybe second, behind Daft Punk's Digital Love), I'll probably never ever get sick of Brandy's What ABout Us.
I find what gets called "indie rock" (this contemporary, US-led thing, although the contemporary Brits are just as fucked) incredibly backwards-looking and frustratingly safe sounding. It seems like an endless recycling of ideas from 20-30 years earlier, a celebration of really conservative notions of "good songwriting" and a whole lot of authenticity as a posture. I think I'm just being angry at fans more than the artists here.
AARGH, enough!
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Led Zeppelin is interesting - listening to one of their albums is like, "blues, blues, blues, wait, prog rock?" which is always kinda nice. Though I find their blues stuff kinda boring... but I'm not that into blues, which is probably why. Personally, my favorite of theirs would have to be Achilles' Last Stand. But I'm a sucker for gratuitously long songs for no other reason than being long.
The Beatles best song is Back in the USSR. So riduculously "hey look, we can do the beach boys thing too!"
Actually, I can't really think of any artists/albums that everyone says I should like and then I don't... at least not off the top of my head.
Zep, on the other hand, have always come across as a posturing bunch of elitist "hard" rockers, hell-bent on technical prowess over the finer points of songcraft.
I agree, and this is basically what I was going to say about Led Zeppelin. I also just can't get into Pink Floyd. I find them dreadfully boring. Same with Broken Social Scene, for the most part.
Pink Floyd is rather heavily kinda ambient. And the whole point of ambient is to be boring. Well, not quite, but very backgroundy. I mean, one of the fundamental albums of the style was called "music for furniture" or somesuch. Its not something you litsen to, so much as put on while you do other stuff. Which is why, by the way, the vast majority of "ambient" stuff isn't really ambient at all - ambient influenced, sure, but not ambient.... anyways. The point of all this is thats its quite ok to be bored by ambient musics, because most people are. Including myself. Ahem. [/rant]
EDIT because I got ninja'ed: Neil Young is Canon now? Shit, sign me up for the haters crowd there. I know the man has talent, I just can't stand his voice. Some of the stuff he did with Crazy Horse is preety awesome though - 13 minute covers of "All Along the Watchtower" is where it is at, people.
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Bob Marley
I like, quite literally, no reggae.
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The Stones were like a lot of groups: They had their time, wedged somewhere between an early period of questionable R & B and a latter period of crap, and now they're milking it. Of course, because they've come to a cultural signifier for an entire generation, grown past the distinction of band and all, they've been able to milk it like no other could.
Let's not forget, however, some of the awesome stuff. Let It Bleed and Beggar's Banquet, to name two specific examples, both rock strong and hard, with undeniable (in my mind, at least) standout tracks like "Gimme Shelter" and "Sympathy for the Devil", respectively.
The idea of a rock canon seems really weird. With a lot of different kinds of artists, the work isn't left up to interpration by them year after year after it's written. So, Kadinski isn't going to be painting the same painting more than once, but Alice Cooper will be singing "Eighteen" till the day he dies. Heller won't rewrite Catch-22 for a live audience, though a Morrissey audience would certainly feel cheated if "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" isn't played.
The idea of an established canon is important for people interested in music criticism. It's just the artists themselves and the ever changing context the music is used in that can bugger it up. Though, many times, the music that is seen as important only seemed so in a certain set of circumstances but now, years latter, it's rubbish.
About Kill Your Idols: Did anyone feel that Carmel Carrillo's essay on music she associated with break-ups seemed out of place and pointless?
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I don't like 80s hardcore. I don't mind Fugazi's Waiting Room, but I guess that's their big song for those who don't otherwise give two shits about the whole business.
Fugazi started as a conscious effort to break out of the patterns that 80's hardcore had fallen into, so in the strictest sense they can't really be called a hardcore band.
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And perhaps the big one: Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. For several years I listened almost exclusively to jazz, but I could never get into this album. I mean it's lovely, sure, but it's just too static: jazz has to have a bit of bounce to it, it has to swing, for god's sake! Kind of Blue just hits a groove and pretty much stays there for three-quarters-of-an-hour. I'm a fan of all the musicians involved in the record, but the record itself just doesn't go anywhere. When it comes to Miles Davis, give me the first quintet any day.
Getting kind of blue depends on what Jazz fan you are. Kind of Blue is built harmonically on modals and very little chord variation (So What is only two chords: Dmaj7, E flat maj7. Or actually, D dorian and E flat dorian) so if youre used to Swing era Jazz or Bebop and Hardbop you may not like that. Although, Coltrane changed a lot of regular Hardbop chord changes.
Anyway, Kind of Blue is one of my favorite Jazz albums.
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I love jazz of all sorts, from '20s to swing to bop to hard bop to (some) avante-garde, but it's got to have a bit of movement to it. To me Kind of Blue doesn't move anywhere: it just sits there and bes pretty. Which is fine, but it's not quite enough for me. I'd much rather listen to Mingus Ah Um or the Charlie Parker Dial sessions or the Far East Suite or the Atomic Basie or Louis Armstrong Plays W.C. Handy or the Clifford Brown-Max Roach Quintet or Round About Midnight by the first Miles Davis Quintet or . . .
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miles davis
Seeing as how I'm the only person so far who's mentioned Miles Davis, I feel inclined to point out once again that I'm a huge Davis fan, I'm just not that keen on Kind of Blue.
Oh, and all that fusion shit. But Round About Midnight (1956, first Miles Davs Quintet: Coltrane on tenor, Red Garland on piano, "Philly" Joe Jones on drums, Paul Chambers on bass) is my favourite jazz album, if not favourite album full stop.
So I don't need to try again. Thankyou!
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As for Zep, they were just major masturbators. Their live shows were just the musical equivalent of wanking for two hours, with occasionaly good bits in between. I also hate 'Stairway To Heaven.' It's got obvious chords, terrible lyrics, and a rudimentary solo that I could play within about two minutes of listening to the song for the first time. It's awful. And Jimmy Page's Satanism fixation just means I can't take them seriously.
This is coming from the kid who digs Blink 182.
Go home.
Way to judge on the 'this is the thread where you don't get judged' thread, asshole.
Oh, another classic album I don't like - What's Going On by Marvin Gaye. I like 'Inner City Blues,' but the rest of it, all the songs sound exactly the same to me. Admittedly I've not listened to it in depth enough.
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I love led zeppelin :D.
I also hate 'Stairway To Heaven.' It's got obvious chords, terrible lyrics, and a rudimentary solo that I could play within about two minutes of listening to the song for the first time.
Probably their most overated song.. Go to their official website and hear Plant complain about it. :/
Its a POPULAR song, extracted by the taste of the majority.
Eg: I don't judge Metallica by the black album.
And Jimmy Page's Satanism fixation just means I can't take them seriously.
What does that have to do with music? For me, music spawns feelings and sometimes even thoughts. The music doesn't give satanic feelings.. Though i suppose plenty of other music often does.
Me? For 'In Flames', all i had was Come Clarity to judge them by, and had nothing else for a while.. That got some puzzled responses, but then i explained.
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Well, I obviously loathe most of the indie canon stuff, whilst liking a lot of classic rock. Within the canon of music I actually like, well. Hmnnn... I think Slayer are terribly over-rated, though not to say they haven't got some cracking songs, and I never got in to Godflesh or any of the bands like Pelican or Isis, except maybe Sunn 0))) if you count them in that area. I think Carcass, At The Gates and Anathema are also over-rated, though nowhere near as much as Slayer. With Carcass I can't stand all the overblown worship of them in the death metal scene, with At The Gates I hate it how everyone says they invented melodeath, when they didn't (Edge of Sanity did) and I just don't think Anathema generally stand up to the early works of My Dying Bride and Paradise Lost. I generally don't like American style death metal, except odd dribs and drabs from odd bands: like I love 'To Serve Man' by Cattle Decapitation, but none of their other stuff. As foir other things, I've never really seen the point of NON (I find it pretty much pure masturbation), though I do like a lot of Boyd Rices other work. Some of those opinions are quite common though. As for the other way round, I like some hair metal, and I fucking love melodic black metal, especially the really awful shit. I would still class myself as a fan of Cradle of Filth, for example, their early work anyway. It's just so damn enjoyable!
Oh, and I don't like The Clash. At all.
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It's your turn to keep trying Tommy, The Clash are awesome.
I can't stand Rufus Wainwright's fucking crooning. Soooo annoying.
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I love led zeppelin :D.
I also hate 'Stairway To Heaven.' It's got obvious chords, terrible lyrics, and a rudimentary solo that I could play within about two minutes of listening to the song for the first time.
Probably their most overated song.. Go to their official website and hear Plant complain about it. :/
Its a POPULAR song, extracted by the taste of the majority.
Eg: I don't judge Metallica by the black album.
I don't in either case, I have given many listens to countless Zeppelin albums - as implied by my post, I feel - and dislike just about all of it.. I think another good addition to this thread is the fact that my favourite Metallica songs come after Metallica when they started pissing fans off, because they started not giving a shit and doing what they wanted. It resulted in the second worst material in their career, and yet 'Until It Sleeps' and 'Fuel' are two of my favourites.
And Jimmy Page's Satanism fixation just means I can't take them seriously.
What does that have to do with music? For me, music spawns feelings and sometimes even thoughts. The music doesn't give satanic feelings.. Though i suppose plenty of other music often does.
I just think that Spinal Tap has highlighted the ridiculousness of so many rock bands outside of their music. In The Song Remains The Same, the Peter Grant scenes are practically reproduced verbatim in Tap. It just means the band as people are a joke to me, and for some reason that means I find their music dubious. Oddly enough there aren't many bands where this effects my judgement, but it does for Zep, probably because I hated their music to begin with.
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i've heard everything the clash ever did.
But I was there.
I was there in 1974 at the first Suicide practices in a loft in New York City.
I was working on the organ sounds with much patience.
I was there when Captain Beefheart started up his first band.
I told him, "Don't do it that way. You'll never make a dime."
I was there.
I was the first guy playing Daft Punk to the rock kids.
I played it at CBGB's.
Everybody thought I was crazy.
We all know.
I was there.
I was there.
I've never been wrong.
I never particularly found Pavement all that exciting. Not that they're "bad" per se, just that they didn't do it for me.
Pretty much all punk rock I've ever heard bores me to tears. I think it's mainly the really, really monotonous chord progressions. Guys I know it is "punx" or whatever to only use four notes in your songs** but it is also "boring" and "not that hard to learn some other notes on your guitars". That being said, I know I'm not particularly well-versed in the genre (and yes I know there is way more to punk than four-note Ramones knock-offs and preposterous Warped Tour douchebaggery, but I'm simplifying for the sake of argument) so there are probably some gems I'm missing out on...I just can't be bothered to go looking for them when I already get my kicks listening to other stuff.
I can't get into most black metal because of the recording quality most of those bands seem to go for. I get the feeling I would probably really like the music if only I could hear it better.
**: This is really weird, because those same four note repetitions in any other genre can sound like absolute gold to me. I don't know what it is.
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It is a fucking great song.
Case in point, re: what I mentioned earlier about punk bands: the song "Ankle Injuries" by Fujiya & Miyagi is, what, basically three notes? And yet I LOVE it. So it must be something about punk's delivery that turns me off. Not sure what it is.
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I could see punk bands that sound boring as hell on record just slaying live.
But then, that's the case for most kinds of music.
Shit, I saw Foreigner play at the state fair a few weeks ago and they rocked the fuck out.
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I also am pretty vocal in my hate of Slayer, which has nearly gotten me into a fight a couple of times. Kerry King couldn't play guitar in the 80s either, and Reign in Blood is probably the most overrated metal album ever.
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Oh, another classic album I don't like - What's Going On by Marvin Gaye.
Me too. A couple of great songs, a hell of a lot of filler. And when it comes to soul singers doing protest songs, Sam Cooke pretty much wrote the definitive chapter in that book with "A Change is Gonna Come".
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I also am pretty vocal in my hate of Slayer...
I'll fight you!!! err, i mean...
Actually, I'm probably the world's laziest Slayer fan...I owe that band a hell of a lot for the music I listen to (hell, the early Converge shit is the most blatent Slayer rip-off you can imagine, and even they admit to that) but I just listen to them because they make me smile. I think that I'm expected to either fight you to the death for their honor, or turn in my secret decoder ring i got when i joined the metal-kid club or something, but I'm way to lazy for either.
Slayer=WAY overrated...but fun as all hell, at least I think so..
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Pixies. They just don't do it for me. As is nearly always the case, this is simply my personal disposition, not a denotation of the quality of their music.
same with the Talking Heads, and alot of avant-garde stuff (though there is still a bunch i do like).
speaking of alot of atonal, or soundblock-based music i.e. the more conceptual incomprehensible side of avant-garde, it usually does not do it for me, because it hurts to listen to. Shoenberg is almost unlistenable. But i am thankful it was done, because it really needed to be done. i guess i can dislike something as music but love it as art without feeling conflicted.
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Godspeed You Black Emeperor and Sigur Rós are probably tied for most boring live show ever. GYBE is soft part/slow cresendo/loud part: repeat 20–30 times, then call it a night. Sigur Ros doesn’t even bother with the loud part. My biggest memory from any time I’ve seen either is the incredible back-pain from standing still for an hour and a half trying (read: failing) to convince myself that their shows were interesting.
I think both are overrated on their studio work, as well. Ágætis Byrjun is great, but also at least twice as good as anything else Sigur Rós has ever put out. And frankly, the two tracks on Sløw Riøt før New Zerø Kanada is as much GYBE as I’ll ever want.
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i've heard everything the clash ever did.
if you play 'london calling' after 'entertainment' by gang of four it sounds laughable.
This is sort of going off subject (or actually maybe not) but I was reallllly unimpressed with entertainment. It's the only thing by Gang of Four I've checked out and I thought it was boring, and that it definitely inspired Franz Ferdinand but Franz Ferdinand does it better.
And I don't like Franz Ferdinand either. hah.
I'll agree with the poster who said Sigur Ros is boring live. I saw them at Coachella and it was dreadful, I'm hoping it was the open air and lots of people though, they seem like a smaller venue band to me.
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I'm with everyone who said that punk is boring. Total crap, all of it. The fact that punk as a genre couples a 'We do whatever we want'-attitude with the inability to actually DO anything new, original or exciting is just ... irony. Or really fucked up.
The Rolling Stones are a classic example of recycling at work. I think there hasn't been a new record by them in decades. they just recut and sample or their old shit into new 'songs'.
I dislike Slayer. Pretentious, off-key, uninteresting.
...what else has been slayed in this thread/
... oh, yeah. Indie-stuff. That just gives a whole new meaning to pretentious. Plus, I don't GET pop music. At all. Indie or otherwise. Why would anyone create music that just ... bounces of the senses? Does nothing? Is wall-paper?
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... oh, yeah. Indie-stuff. That just gives a whole new meaning to pretentious. Plus, I don't GET pop music. At all. Indie or otherwise. Why would anyone create music that just ... bounces of the senses? Does nothing? Is wall-paper?
Firstly, not all pop music bounces off the senses.... just most of it. ^_^
Anyways, music that bounces off the sense does have its place - advertisments, for example. The focus should be on the product, not on the music, but you want music that is happy and bouncy so people associate the product with happiness.
I suppose I should declare myself a fan of some electro-pop... Kraftwerk are fucking awesome.
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Let's see...
Bad Brains - I love 80s hardcore. Pretty much all of my favourite music is either in that style or comes pretty directly out of it. But I hate Bad Brains. The vocals irritate me (which is hard to do. I mean, I like Canvas), the lyrics bore me and they committed for me the ultimate musical sin: they got into reggae.
Reggae - All of it. It's just so limp and lacking in any fire and energy. Dub reggae is the worst of all (with the possible exception of every bank manager's favourite, Bob Marley. You sucked Bob).
Sunn - Considering the amount of records Earth have released the point of a sub-par Earth tribute band is...?
Pelican - Their riffs are pathetic except for that one good song and that's pretty damn old by now. Humanfly make them look like a joke.
Metallica - And by that I mean old Metallica. There's just no kick to them, for me their 80s records are down with the legions of forgettable old thrash bands and nowhere near Anthrax, Slayer, Kreator or anyone else still worth listening to.
The Fucking Champs - My friend Paul said it best: "They play rock music for people who don't like rock music... and I like hard rock."
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Paul Oakenfold - One of the original "Superstar" DJs, he churns out so much shit these days that my ears bleed and my brain tries to get my bowels to shit it out. Seems to exist solely to try to push the agenda of Hollywood folks. Brittany Murphy - Faster Kill Pussycat was probably the epitome of shite.
DJ Tiesto - He was invited by Disney to remix the track from the Pirates movie. He accepted. What the fuck, dude.
UNKLE - Stop wanking to your old sounds, make something new.
Metallica - I used to like their old stuff, then I grew up. Now I despise them because of their views towards their fans, and digital music. Eat my dangleberries.
Lindsay Lohan/Paris Hilton - What fuckwit decided to give firecrotch a mic? Same goes for Ms. Crabs and Herpes.
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UNKLE - Stop wanking to your old sounds, make something new.
he tried that woth his new album. sounds whack. different, definitely, but whack.
i don't like the arcade fire at all, and there's bound to be other stuff if i think about it a bit.
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You know, speaking of the Arcade Fire, I think they're overrated. Don't get me wrong, I like them. I adore about seven of the songs on their album. But Win Butler, as a vocalist, particularly live, drives me fucking nuts. But I'd sooner have his voice come out of my own mouth when I spoke than have to listen to any more of that fucking wife of his. The last track on Funeral is the biggest disappointment ever.
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Hrm. I'd put those Blueberry Boat folks in the same ... boat. And The Raconteurs can go swim in a croc-filled moat, the one that has Outkast's bones lying at the bottom of it.
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I hate the White Strips, but I think that The Raconteurs are pretty good. When I first saw their single I thought "hey this is pretty good, wait, is that the prick from the White Strips? He can make good music?"
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Upon reflection, I realized something. To reggae and Bob Marley's credit, they produced Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley, who melds a lot of genres into his smart, listenable music.
Other than that, still don't like reggae.
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I hate the White Strips, but I think that The Raconteurs are pretty good. When I first saw their single I thought "hey this is pretty good, wait, is that the prick from the White Strips? He can make good music?"
I have long said that I would by a Jack White album if he got a proper band behind him. He did that with Raconteurs. So I bought it. I'm now quite happy.
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I just thought of one. Although I adore Fun House and parts of their debut (I wanna be your dog, We Will Fall, Ann, Not Right), I've never cared very much for the Stooges' 1969 or No Fun. They're not terrible, but I don't see why everyone worships them.
Also, I think Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation (and several other albums by them) are really overrated. Sure, some parts are great, but a lot of it gets really boring, particularly later on. However, I'd like to point out that even though the studio version of Eric's Trip is pretty bad, if the Dirty Boots EP is any indication, it is really awesome live.
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On Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones - These are bands who I'm very selective with, as some of their stuff is pure shite (Stairway to Heaven needs to die). But when they're totally on their game, they're awesome. Led Zeppelin, "When the Levee Breaks." As for the Rolling Stones, that period in the sixties (Their Satanic Majesties Request, "Ruby Tuesday," "She Smiles Sweetly") followed up by "Get Your Ya-Yas Out!." At least Led Zeppelin broke up... whereas the Stones have made a steady course of producing garbage, with the occasionally good song (Beast of Burden is excellent)...
I agree with Godspeed... and almost everyone else on Constellation... doesn't surprise me that most of the members are also part of Broken Social Scene... all that bores me to tears.
I only like one Rage Against The Machine album, and that's Renegades. It's pure goodness. Their albums of non-covers don't interest me at all.
Most really popular indie acts, such as M. Ward, Bonnie Prince Billy, Cat Power, and Okkerrial(sp) River... It all sounds the same after awhile.
I'm kinda angry at the anti-Reggae posts. But I have to go to class soon. I'll write my response that slams you all at another time.
Sigur Ros not interesting? Oh dear. Someone isn't using their ears at all... again I'll be back on that.
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Also, I think Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation (and several other albums by them) are really overrated. Sure, some parts are great, but a lot of it gets really boring, particularly later on. However, I'd like to point out that even though the studio version of Eric's Trip is pretty bad, if the Dirty Boots EP is any indication, it is really awesome live.
Daydream Nation is a tad overrated, yeah. Bad Moon Rising and Murray Street are better. Personally.
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Well, I obviously loathe most of the indie canon stuff, whilst liking a lot of classic rock. Within the canon of music I actually like, well. Hmnnn... I think Slayer are terribly over-rated, though not to say they haven't got some cracking songs, and I never got in to Godflesh or any of the bands like Pelican or Isis, except maybe Sunn 0))) if you count them in that area. I think Carcass, At The Gates and Anathema are also over-rated, though nowhere near as much as Slayer. With Carcass I can't stand all the overblown worship of them in the death metal scene, with At The Gates I hate it how everyone says they invented melodeath, when they didn't (Edge of Sanity did) and I just don't think Anathema generally stand up to the early works of My Dying Bride and Paradise Lost. I generally don't like American style death metal, except odd dribs and drabs from odd bands: like I love 'To Serve Man' by Cattle Decapitation, but none of their other stuff. As foir other things, I've never really seen the point of NON (I find it pretty much pure masturbation), though I do like a lot of Boyd Rices other work. Some of those opinions are quite common though. As for the other way round, I like some hair metal, and I fucking love melodic black metal, especially the really awful shit. I would still class myself as a fan of Cradle of Filth, for example, their early work anyway. It's just so damn enjoyable!
Oh, and I don't like The Clash. At all.
Wait, Anathema is considered a good band at places?
Granted, I've only heard them a couple of times but they've always felt... Creedish... to me.
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I don't like The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, The Cure, Sonic Youth, Slayer, My Dying Bride, Carcass, Cradle of Filth, The Decemberists, Interpol, Sigur Ros, Modest Mouse, Franz Ferdinand...
And many more.
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I'm kinda angry at the anti-Reggae posts. But I have to go to class soon. I'll write my response that slams you all at another time.
Ohh no you won't. Not in this thread you won't. You will, at the most, offer a polite suggestion as to what a particular poster might listen to, in order to hopefully change his or her mind.
Such as the Harder They Come soundtrack.
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This is probably sacrilege as far as industrial music goes, but I’ve never really liked Skinny Puppy’s Too Dark Park or Last Rights. I keep hearing that these are the pinnacle of their career, but to me, they sound way too unfocused. I prefer The Process or Rabies over both.
Oddly, I really enjoy Download’s Furnace, which is essentially the unfocused part of Last Rights being taken to extremes.
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Nobody in this thread should be slamming anybody. This is a thread about taste and evaluation, and in instances where it's more than just "I don't like how it sounds" it gives you a place to say why you don't like something. And no, "it sucks" is not a valid reason.
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I don't like Neutral Milk Hotel. He could probably sing with his mouth closed.
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I'm kinda angry at the anti-Reggae posts. But I have to go to class soon. I'll write my response that slams you all at another time.
Ohh no you won't. Not in this thread you won't. You will, at the most, offer a polite suggestion as to what a particular poster might listen to, in order to hopefully change his or her mind.
Such as the Harder They Come soundtrack.
Wow. I was joking, you know. :-P
And yesssss, Harder They Come soundtrack. Also there's Max Romeo's excellent "War Ina Babylon," Horace Andy's "Skylarking," The Upsetters' "Revolution Dub," the Trojan Records Dub collections... the list goes on. I could be here all night.
The reason why I'm kinda angry though is that I feel that the people here saying that they don't like reggae just simply don't understand what's going on there. I can kinda understand though, if they don't like the "slow" sound of it. Slow music isn't for everyone.
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It isn't the speed of it I don't like, it's the fact that it all comes across very same-y to my ears. Except Jr. Gong.
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Wait, Anathema is considered a good band at places?
Granted, I've only heard them a couple of times but they've always felt... Creedish... to me.
Anathema were one of the pioneers of doom-death. But, like Paradise Lost, and countless other decent gothic metal bands, they succumbed to the 'mid-nineties disease' and turned into a mopey alt-rock act.
The Anathema I was talking about (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24DhCviMKqE)
Even their old stuff though isn't doomy enough for me. I kinda dig the Pink Floyd influence, but it doesn't do it for me the way albums like 'Gothic' and 'Turn Loose the Swans' do.
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It isn't the speed of it I don't like, it's the fact that it all comes across very same-y to my ears. Except Jr. Gong.
This is a problem I believe occurs across all genres of music, and unless one has an edcuated ear, it can happen very easily to anyone (my past self included). One just needs to look for those artists who actually create(d) originality within said genre, as opposed to, say, poorly-concieved compilations (shudder) or Greatest Hits packages (even worse).
I have an excellent collection of mixes by DJs, of classic reggae and dub that got me into the genre. At your request, I'll get a couple on here for you.
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Wow. I was joking, you know. :-P
Noted. But it's important to be aware that, with only 8 posts under your belt, you don't really have an established personality on this board yet. I'm not saying that to try to beat you over the head with my post-count, I'm just saying that as a new person here it's important to be aware that nobody yet knows enough about you to be able to tell when you're joking. So it's a good idea to take extra care with what you say. After all, there's no tone of voice on the internet.
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Wow. I was joking, you know. :-P
After all, there's no tone of voice on the internet.
True. It's easy to forget that.
Do you listen to any other classic reggae/dancehall/dub? How about the modern stuff like Rhythm & Sound?
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Daydream Nation is a tad overrated, yeah. Bad Moon Rising and Murray Street are better. Personally.
I haven't heard Murray Street, but I used to really love Bad Moon Rising. I think I overplayed it a bit, because I don't like it quite as much now.
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Daydream Nation is a tad overrated, yeah. Bad Moon Rising and Murray Street are better. Personally.
I haven't heard Murray Street, but I used to really love Bad Moon Rising. I think I overplayed it a bit, because I don't like it quite as much now.
While we're on old Sonic Youth albums that are better than Daydream Nation, don't forget Evol OOOOOOOOOF.
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I'm curious as to whether people tend to like Daydream Nation less than other Sonic Youth albums (which is something I've noticed a bit on these boards) as a reaction to that album being generally named as SY's "essential" album.
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Robert g, I dip my toes in the warm waters of reggae and related music every now and then, but I haven't got in any deeper. I own a few C.D.s by the likes of Horace Andy, Lee Perry, and Desmond Dekker.
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This is probably sacrilege as far as industrial music goes, but I’ve never really liked Skinny Puppy’s Too Dark Park or Last Rights. I keep hearing that these are the pinnacle of their career, but to me, they sound way too unfocused. I prefer The Process or Rabies over both.
I'm with you there. I mean, I like Last Rights but I LOVE The Process.
So music that does nothing for me?
The Decemberists, Architecture in Helsinki, Of Canada, Deerhoof or any other indie band that people seem to go absolutely nuts over. I just find them so absolutely mind numbing. I can't describe or justify my dislike but they just cannot maintain my interest.
Trance, House and Hardcore (in the dance scene) bore me to fucking death. There's no variance, no hook, nothing to maintain my interest. Oddly, I love EBM which is basically just trance with vocals.
As far as I'm concerned, house is the worst music in the world. It's like taking everything that's good about electronica and raping it.
Doom, Amebix and Crass. I cannot fucking stand the early crust/anarcho punk scene. It's absolutely fucking atrocious. Comepletely unoriginal, horribly recorded, mind numbingly repetitive and fucking weak. Yet I absolutely adore modern d-beat/crust like Disfear, Asschapel and Tragedy. I think it's probably the abysmal recording.
80's hardcore. Black Flag, Bad Brains et al. Poorly recorded. Minor Threat are somehow Ok. It's just not heavy enough, I prefer my hardcore to have screaming and bits that go "jugga jugga" or "waaaily waaiily screech".
Early British punk. Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Buzzcocks, Slits and so on. Boring. Just so dull. Give me the US scene or 2nd wave any day, bands like Dead Kennedys, Misfits, The Exploited, the later work of The Damned, GBH and Bad Religion.
On the flip side I really enjoy synth pop, hair metal, metalcore, whiny teenager music (conventionally called emo), radio rap and pop. Justin Timberlake, The Game, Lupe Fiasco, That chavvy bitch who sings about fucking her boyfriend over, that kind of radio nonsense.
No doubt tommy will slag me out again and we'll have a big argument which no one will win. Just remember this, Deerhoof fucking sucks.
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Upon reflection, I realized something. To reggae and Bob Marley's credit, they produced Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley, who melds a lot of genres into his smart, listenable music.
Other than that, still don't like reggae.
FWIW Damian Marley is the cross-over face of a roots revival in Jamaica generally labelled "One Drop". There is at least one comp by that name with other comparable artists. Albums like Sizzla's 'Rise To The Occasion' are much more varied again, although I'm not sure what the hell to make of it. Falsetto sing-jay styles through that silly Cher / Eiffel 65 'I'm Blue' vocal effect?? What the Funkadelic is he playing at?
So if you felt sufficiently inspired, that's a direction to look in.
I can sympathise with what Robert G wrote. Reggae's got a good 40 years of evolution behind it, so I'm kind of amazed people would dismiss all of it, from the Skatalites to African Headcharge to Augustus Pablo to Yellowman to The Bug, but then I'd do the same with, e.g. metal or trance. Sometimes, despite all the variations, it's the defining characteristics of the genre that are the things you can't respond to. If I did like anything vaguely metal or trance-oriented it'd be in spite of that stuff...
Also, I'm kinda confused as to who's canon includes people like Paris Hilton? :?
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nope.
i do notice that your tastes run exactly opposite mine though. i guess we'll leave it to everyone else to decide who's 'right'.
What'd you say about me? I'll fucking fight you! :laugh:
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Don't like Sex Pistols or Dead Kennedys. I Do like the Dead Milkmen though.
Don't like Cradle of Filth or post Barnes Cannibal Corpse much (Not that I like Six Feet Under). Metallica (especially anything after and including the Black Album), Led Zepplin, The Beatles, or Bob Marley.
Well to be more general... I don't like most bands that people say they like, then can only sing you the lyrics that the compilation CD commercials show. Or maybe its just the people that say they like those bands whilst only knowing the 2 lines that happen to be on a commercial.
Still love Modest Mouse, Type O Negative, Bile, Dead Can Dance, Evergreen Terrace, Wumpscut, and MSI though.
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So you don't like bands because... other people say they like the singles..?
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Not so much the single thing. I think its the people who profess to like a band then can only name you popular songs by said band who really just get my goat. Oh you like Bob Marley? YEAH! No Woman No Cry is amazing!
Mostly, (And I realize this, but don't work too hard on changing it) I just don't like music other people listen to (or anything other people do for that matter). I havn't purposefully listened to the radio (aside from the occasional talk show) in about 4 years. I think one of the saddest moments I ever had was when I saw Modest Mouse on The OC.
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Why should bands you like actually making it somewhere and actually maybe being able to afford a goddamn sandwich or something to eat depress you? That sounds ridiculously crass.
As for not liking bands because other people say they like them (even when they have just heard, as in Bob Marley's case, No Woman No Cry, a single), who gives a shit about those people? Just listen to the music you like and be done with it.
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I'm kind of torn on that subject... and I guess bands do have to cater to the larger demographic to sell albums, ie teenage girls or whoeverthehell watches the OC.
I don't begrudge a band selling albums, but a band that sells itself to corporate America to sell said albums is not cool with me. But hey that's the way things generally work so who am I to argue with it right?
The other saddest moment in music I had was at a Metallica concert when I was a senior in high school (96-97) During Nothing Else Matters or Wherever I May Roam (can't remember specifically without listening to both those songs again) James was sitting on a barstool playing guitar, when it got to the *harder* part of the song he jumped up off the stool and kicked it backwards. There was a stagehand who jumped up from the lower area of the stage and caught the stool before it hit the ground.
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Tommy is right, there is nothing sadder then Metallica in 97.
Anathema were one of the pioneers of doom-death. But, like Paradise Lost, and countless other decent gothic metal bands, they succumbed to the 'mid-nineties disease' and turned into a mopey alt-rock act..
Have you heard Paradise Lost's new album? It's pretty good, they really took a few steps back into their Icon era. Anyway, I'm a big fan on Antehma's and PL's entire discography (except PL's Host. There is no such album. They never realesed it. IT DOES NOT EXIST). I actually really like the direcion Anathem took latley. Their last album, A Natural Disaster, is really amazing.
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Mostly, (And I realize this, but don't work too hard on changing it) I just don't like music other people listen to (or anything other people do for that matter). I havn't purposefully listened to the radio (aside from the occasional talk show) in about 4 years. I think one of the saddest moments I ever had was when I saw Modest Mouse on The OC.
Why were you watching The OC?
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I was watching the OC because I had to see for myself what the commercial said. I should have just saved myself the pain.
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Wow. I was joking, you know. :-P
And yesssss, Harder They Come soundtrack. Also there's Max Romeo's excellent "War Ina Babylon," Horace Andy's "Skylarking," The Upsetters' "Revolution Dub," the Trojan Records Dub collections... the list goes on. I could be here all night.
The reason why I'm kinda angry though is that I feel that the people here saying that they don't like reggae just simply don't understand what's going on there. I can kinda understand though, if they don't like the "slow" sound of it. Slow music isn't for everyone.
Oh no, I get it. It just bores me to tears and makes me think of hippies sitting around after free parties talking about chilling out and talking endlessly about that time they did mushrooms in Guatemala on their gap year. And since you mention it I have no problem with slow music. Doom, sludge, noise, slow blues and indie, all good. But not reggae. Never reggae.
Having said that, I really like The Harder They Come and the soundtrack doesn't bother me at all since it's so integral to a good film. I'd never want to hear it out of that context though.
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Oh no, I get it. It just bores me to tears and makes me think of hippies sitting around after free parties talking about chilling out and talking endlessly about that time they did mushrooms in Guatemala on their gap year.
Now that's just sad, that you let [presumably college student-aged] hippies who go on "trips" [and probably go see shitty jam bands too] ruin a whole genre of music for you. That'd be like if I rejected liking the Books because they had an all-ages show here in Cleveland and so I had to deal with kids who were only ten when the Books started making music. In other words, laaaaaaaame.
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Sweet! Another clevelander! on a related note, sometimes one can like music because they hate it. for some reason I can't think of an example, but sometimes, a band is so obnoxious, grating or insulting or painful that you just gotta love them. Weird, isn't it?
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Sweet! Another clevelander! on a related note, sometimes one can like music because they hate it. for some reason I can't think of an example, but sometimes, a band is so obnoxious, grating or insulting or painful that you just gotta love them. Weird, isn't it?
Hmmm... That is possible. Do you know John from Bent Crayon? I think he does that.
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I really tried to like the Specials, but it didn't work. And fuck Symphonie Fantastique by Hector Berlioz. Piece of crap. *spit*
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Now that's just sad, that you let [presumably college student-aged] hippies who go on "trips" [and probably go see shitty jam bands too] ruin a whole genre of music for you. That'd be like if I rejected liking the Books because they had an all-ages show here in Cleveland and so I had to deal with kids who were only ten when the Books started making music. In other words, laaaaaaaame.
You misunderstand me. The crappy nature of reggae music calls to my mind its worst fans since for me they kind of embody the qualities I hate about the music but they don't put me off. They don't exactly help, but neither do emo record collector snobs, middle class morons in girls jeans who think they're tough doing kung-fu to Converge, fashion crusties and obnoxious indie students, but I love all that stuff despite it.
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What about skinhead reggae, though? That should conjure the exact opposite image.
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That would just make me picture a hippy/skinhead crossbreed bringing together in one potent whole the worst of both, and nobody needs thoughts like that in their mind. It's just not healthy.
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More recent stuff: Modest Mouse. I've only heard The Moon & Antarctica, but I cannot for the life of me see why everyone gushes over it so much. Killer first two songs, one or two other good ones in there, but my god it draaaaaaaaags in the middle.
Really? I find the first few tracks splotchy and boring. I think the album only gets really great from Cold Part onwards. In fact, the "drag" is the best part of the album for me.
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That would just make me picture a hippy/skinhead crossbreed bringing together in one potent whole the worst of both, and nobody needs thoughts like that in their mind. It's just not healthy.
Skinhead reggae is rather different than say, Bob Marley stoner reggae, you know. It's got a completely different feel to it. It's reggae that goes out drinking after an eight-hour day at the steel mill and gets into a streetfight rather than getting baked and sitting in its dorm room spouting off vague political credos and half-incubated philosophical ruminations.
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Not so much a band as a genre really. When I turned 25 people started asking me if I liked jazz. Did this happen to anyone else? Is that supposed to be the watershed age when i stop liking shortloudfast and get drawn into langorous noodling and atonal hooting?
Oh, And I dont like Weezer.
(i'm new, Howdy.)
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On a related note, sometimes one can like music because they hate it. for some reason I can't think of an example, but sometimes, a band is so obnoxious, grating or insulting or painful that you just gotta love them. Weird, isn't it?
Case in point:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=42718986
Try the song 'black'. The lyrics are on the same page if you scroll down a bit.
they hurt.
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That would just make me picture a hippy/skinhead crossbreed bringing together in one potent whole the worst of both, and nobody needs thoughts like that in their mind. It's just not healthy.
Skinhead reggae is rather different than say, Bob Marley stoner reggae, you know. It's got a completely different feel to it. It's reggae that goes out drinking after an eight-hour day at the steel mill and gets into a streetfight rather than getting baked and sitting in its dorm room spouting off vague political credos and half-incubated philosophical ruminations.
Recommendations? It can't hurt to give it a try.
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i've loved jazz since i was about fifteen, so i guess that didn't apply.
It doesn't apply to me either.
What's with people always associating reggae to Bob Marley and then to stoners? Seriously, there's way more to reggae than 1) Marley and it really isn't all that much into the pot. At least, not the real stuff.
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First time music was called "ska" it was in reference to the first kind of reggae in the 60s, pre-dating two-tone by close to 20 years, and kicked off by Jamaican jazz musicians. Most obvious example being the Skatalites. But I guess you mean this rock music with horns coming from California.
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for me the two really great sonic youth albums are 'sister' and 'evol'. those are the only two i would say are absolutely essential to any record collection. then i guess if you definitely wanted more 'bad moon rising' and 'confusion is sex/kill yr idols'.
from then onwards there is something to be found each album but they never really hit such a peak again.
I haven't listened to EVOL enough to really get used to it. I like some of it, and I'll probably like it more as I listen to it more. For Sister, it kind of fluctuates for me. Sometimes when I listen to it I really love it, and sometimes I like some of it a little but don't care for most of it. I haven't been really interested in checking out most of their post-Daydream Nation things, but I don't care much for what I've heard of Goo, Dirty or EJST&NS. However, the Dirty Boots EP and the couple other live tracks from that show which are available on their website convince me that Goo-era live shows could be really good. Speaking of which, I want to get Hold That Tiger as well.
On a somewhat related subject, Swans' Cop often seems to be considered their best early album. I don't care for it that much, to be honest; it's all right some of the time when I'm in the mood, and some of it's great, but over the length of the album (which is actually pretty short) it starts feeling dull and unoriginal, like they're just relying on volume and tempo to make it disturb the listener. I love Young God, and what little I've heard of Filth, since they feel far more dynamic and expressive than Cop. I'm sure Cop would've been great live, but the album doesn't work well for me.
Children of God isn't that great either.
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Skinhead reggae is rather different than say, Bob Marley stoner reggae, you know. It's got a completely different feel to it. It's reggae that goes out drinking after an eight-hour day at the steel mill and gets into a streetfight rather than getting baked and sitting in its dorm room spouting off vague political credos and half-incubated philosophical ruminations.
Recommendations? It can't hurt to give it a try.
Well, you can't go wrong with Trojan's box sets as far as roots ska and reggae go, so I would recommend picking up the Trojan Skinhead Reggae Box Set (http://www.amazon.com/Trojan-Skinhead-Reggae-Box-Set/dp/B000067NUB) for starters. There's also a few skinhead reggae revivalist bands about, the most prominent of which are probably The Aggrolites. See 'em live if you get a chance, they put on a really great live show. Lots of energy.
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I'll admit I know far too little about reggae in general, but is anyone familiar with the Drastics? I haven't heard any of their studio work yet, but I've seen them live and they were great.
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I am not a guy who goes for reggae or ska either, but two words make an exception to the rule:
The Specials.
And then another four words if you want to be specific:
'Message To You, Rudy'