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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Gryff on 03 Oct 2006, 12:52
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So for those of us downunder, the first announcement for next year's Big Day Out has been made:
Tool, Muse, Violent Femmes, The Killers, My Chemical Romance, Evermore, Jet, Scribe, The Spazzys, The Herd, Eskimo Joe, Shape Shifter, The Sleepy Jackson, Minuit, Open Souls, Peaches, The Mint Chicks, The Veils, Spank Rock, The Tutts.
So far my verdict: LAME
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I know! I've already seen Tool, Muse, Violent Femmes, and Peaches before.
I would love to see Peaches play again but I'm not flying across the country just for her, and The Mint Chicks are one of my favourite bands but they're from New Zealand so I'll be seeing them play in my own city in a dingy bar somewhere. No one else on the list is the least bit interesting. Gah!
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Why do they hate you guys? That's a horrible lineup.
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i wouldnt mind seeing the vilent femmes but yeah awful lineup.
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I've seen MCR live, and whatever you think of them they put on a very good live show. Tight, energetic pop-rock, and it's sung by a guy capable of exuding supreme control over a large chunk of his audience.
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oh wtf
if only 1 of the rumours i heard going around played it could have been saved (iheard the pixies and the who, although i knew that wouldnt happened, i still hoped just maybe..)
i wouldnt mind seeing tool and muse but for the price to go, i dont know if i could be bothered
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I'll still be going but it seems to be getting worse every year.
I miss livid.
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Peaches and Violent Femmes I'd see, but those two aren't enough to save that lineup. As it is, I wouldn't waste the money if I were you.
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I almost threw up when I heard about it in the car. But I'll still go, I shall see MCR because sometimes I like to give into the 14 year old girl that lives inside me, and I've heard good things about peaches but have yet to see. I'll see The Killers and Muse aswel. If theres a gap in my schedule due to lack of bands, I can fill it with booze and cigarettes.
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Its such a shame. I heard rumours of Pixies and Flaming Lips. The only band I actually like on the bill is The Spazzys but I don't want to pay $100+ when i can see them play by themselves for like $10.
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...Big day out i associate with triple J >.>
Dunno why, but, i do, triple j has been complete shite of late (Or for the last 2/3yrs), so no surprize the big day out is shite as well. This could be because they're the only radio station thats truely uniform national and they're the pop bastard divas of the wannabe hipster/indie kids, but eh, whatever...
Only thing i'll fork out $100 for is an Eels ticket, and even when i do that, i'm kinda thinking $100 for 2hrs? Where's the massage parlour! >.>
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does anybody else from melbourne agree with me that princes park is an infinitely better venue for it than the showgrounds?
That's why I was really hoping it'd be a good line-up this week: Princes Park is about a 10-minute walk from my house. I mean, how often is a major festival that conveniently located?! Last year I could clearly hear Iggy Pop from my back garden. I guess this week I'm going to be hearing My Chemical Romance instead. How awful!
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Bah that lineup confirms it screw the big day out I'm going to the A1GP
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Tool and Muse FUCK YES!!!!
I actually wouldn't mind seeing MCR, but don't tell anyone I said that....
Hopefully the second announcement will bring somebody else worth forking out for, although even if it was 10 hours of excruciating torture followed by Tool, I'd still fork out my $115. :lol:
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And there you have my major reason for not going; tool fans.
I like Muse and I wouldn't mind seeing MCR, I've also heard they do a good live show regardless of their music.
I'd pay maybe 60 bucks for that but not 120...
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but hey, does anyone actually go to festivals for the music? i thought the whole point was to bring a posse of friends and get riotously drunk on bootleg booze, then go and see the bands you actually like at their sideshows where the beer is better/cheaper/both and the set goes for longer than 45 minutes and there aren't 10000 annoying teenagers with slogan shirts.
anyway.
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lame lame lame laaaaaame. although does anybody else from melbourne agree with me that princes park is an infinitely better venue for it than the showgrounds? i mean, grass, and trees!!! aside from the fact that the noise from the mainstages seems to overpower the other ones, i liked the whole setup.
but yeah, i'm not going. i was way disappointed last year, and that actually had one or two bands i wanted to see.
more beer money for falls!
im going to falls and i think that lineup is worse. i was hoping the later announcements would be good, but so far no.
if modest mouse werent playing id consider selling my ticket, only thing is all my friends are going so id probably spent NYE drunk at home by myself
last year i barely saw any bands, its just getting hammered with mates that makes it really as salada puts it
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It's not a patch on the last Big Day Out's lineup, but remember there are still two more announcements to be made. All is not lost yet!
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And so the truth is revealed, bunch of tonedeaf gits that go no matter what..
But eh, i'm broke, your probally cashed up, so you can go regardless
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im going to falls and i think that lineup is worse. i was hoping the later announcements would be good, but so far no.
if modest mouse werent playing id consider selling my ticket, only thing is all my friends are going so id probably spent NYE drunk at home by myself
last year i barely saw any bands, its just getting hammered with mates that makes it really as salada puts it
yeah, i couldn't really give a shit about the lineup at falls. spending 4 days completely drunk, one of those days being new years eve, with 970470732 other people just as happy about the situation as you, the music is kind of a bonus. BDO on the other hand is one day of lots of standing up drinking overpriced beer, and you have to actually walk outside of the festival to sleep.
regardless of all my anti-bdo ranting, i'll prolly go still...
yea illprob go to bdo aswell
falls will be awesome though, last year we had this massive group of like 20 people all camping together and like 10 people camping not too far away. my only regret is telling myself i wont drink on NYE until after the dandy warhols play so i can remember it.... so i went nearly the whole day and night without drinking, got really angry about it and drank the whole days alcohol in 2 hours before the dandys. needless to say i didnt remember it.
is there a falls thread on here? so i dont take over this one?
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Man the band i'm most excited about seeing is the Violent Femmes and i saw them last year and they're the Violent Femmes
this is hideously lame
stay tuned to www.liveguide.com.au for all your music festival news! we've got Tapes 'n Tapes and Band of Horses and you could win Midlake stuff
i'm not sure what Midlake stuff
i wish i was going to Merideth and i wish New Pornographers would announce tour dates
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Yeah they're touring. We've got tour dates for everything (or I try to) anyway. Those are all Merideth Music Festival sideshows. I want ot go.
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I've seen MCR live, and whatever you think of them they put on a very good live show. Tight, energetic pop-rock, and it's sung by a guy capable of exuding supreme control over a large chunk of his audience.
See, they were anything but that when they opened for Green Day.
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Green Day is to any decent act what The Vulture was to Spider-Man. Even a brief connection means Green Day sucks out their life force.
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I'm thinking about going. But the only bands I care about are Tool, Muse, The Herd, Peaches, and maybe The Sleepy Jackson.
That said, since I managed to miss out on tickets to both Tool and Muse, it might be worth it. Then I can just munch disco biccies and go jump around in the boiler room for the rest of the time.
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I was thinking about going if the second announcement was decent, mostly because I am a huge freaking Tool fan. Then I heard that the only reason Tool aren't doing a sideshow in Brisbane is because the Gold Coast BDO never sells out and they actually got paid not to do a sideshow to sell it out.
God I hope thats just a terrible rumor. The point is I am not particularly impressed with the lineup anyway, and I really don't think I can afford a 125 dollar Tool ticket.
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GC BDO always sells out eventually. Its almost sold out now. Headlining bands hardly ever play side shows in Brisbane because of the tight schedule after playing NZ and then probably playing side shows in Sydney.
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Guys, come on, The Spazzys. As if they aren't the most fun ever. Aloha! Go Bananas was basically the only thing in my CD player last summer.
I wish they'd tour the Unis so I could work at their Newcastle concert. Because that would be sweet.
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Guys, come on, The Spazzys. As if they aren't the most fun ever. Aloha! Go Bananas was basically the only thing in my CD player last summer.
I wish they'd tour the Unis so I could work at their Newcastle concert. Because that would be sweet.
Spazzys and Mach Pelican are my fave Aussie bands.
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Guys, come on, The Spazzys. As if they aren't the most fun ever. Aloha! Go Bananas was basically the only thing in my CD player last summer.
I wish they'd tour the Unis so I could work at their Newcastle concert. Because that would be sweet.
If I wanted to listen to a bunch of Ramones songs I'd probably listen to the Ramones :-P
Also, I'm pretty sure I REALLY like the new MCR song, so yeah, maybe I'm looking forward to seeing them?
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Spazzys and Mach Pelican are my fave Aussie bands.
No disrespect to either of the above, but you obviously need to listen to more Aussie bands.
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Spazzys and Mach Pelican are my fave Aussie bands.
No disrespect to either of the above, but you obviously need to listen to more Aussie bands.
but i don't like the majority of the music that is coming out right now on the radio.
what do you suggest? cat empire? sarah blasko? rogue traders? the herd? cog? alex fucking loyd?
as well as the two aforementioned bands i also dig
stereo city, steppin' razor, mindsnare, toe to toe, AVO, twin city faction, kampei, bagster, the new justice team, the colytons, extra limb,
the breakout, the critics, masstrauma, jungle fever, the signals, rex banner, blister, game over, frenzal rhomb, the living end, rofl, frank rizzo,
r.a.d, the optionals, 2 by 4, strike first, mid youth crisis, the suns, straitjacket and heaps more.
i usually am at a live music venue either playing or listening to bands at least 3 times a month.
i don't think i'm really missing out if i don't buy the latest single by wolfmother either.
*blows raspberries in elcapitan's general direction? :-D
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I think that bands like the Panda Band, Rocket Science, The Sleepy Jackson etc are really the best Australia has to offer at the moment. Although I haven't heard any music by Laura yet.
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i would go, but i find both tool and muse boring.
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See, this is the thing with the Big fucking Day Out nowdays. They announce a bunch of "big name" acts in the first lineup announcement, then the tickets go on sale and scalpers buy all the tickets in the first day. Then they wait for the second lineup announcement where they announce all the fucking bands people like my friends and I want to see. Then the scalpers put the tickets onto Ebay we have to pay exhorbitant fees if we want to see the couple of bands that are any good because they aren't doing any fucking sideshows because they don't find it financially viable or something.
Mother Fuckers.
That said, I bought three tickets to Sydney's Big Day Out this year because I wanted to go with my friends. My friends didn't get tickets though, because the fucking things sold out an hour after opening. Now I hear that they are releasing 10,000 extra tickets by some random fucking ballot thing that they think deters scalpers but which only fucks things up for everyone else and that they will probably rort somehow anyway.
So yeah, I used to love the Big Day Out, but now with inept ticket sale management, dickheads who aren't interested in any of the bands but still go for "the atmosphere" (ie: to get drunk and be fucking idiots) and scalpers buying everything they can in order to sell them on Ebay at ridiculous markup it's steadily becoming something on my "not worth the fucking hassle anymore" list. I am seriously thinking about selling these tickets to my friends at no profit then crossing my fingers and hoping if any decent bands are announced in the second wave that they wind up doing side-shows.
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Guys, come on, The Spazzys. As if they aren't the most fun ever. Aloha! Go Bananas was basically the only thing in my CD player last summer.
I wish they'd tour the Unis so I could work at their Newcastle concert. Because that would be sweet.
Spazzys and Mach Pelican are my fave Aussie bands.
didn't the both tour with Guitar Wolf?
Mach Pelican are better fake Ramones then the Spazzys. Spazzys are touring with You Am I (which i will see- we're giving away tickets on the site) and Mach Pelican are back with Guitar Wolf. i got into a big discussion about them (Mach Pelican) at the Grates afterparty
fave Aussie bands:
Grates, Architechture in Helsinki, Hummingbirds, Saints, Crayon Fields, Panda Band, Nick Cave, Go-Betweens
i was into the Spazzys last year too
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I think that bands like the Panda Band, Rocket Science, The Sleepy Jackson etc are really the best Australia has to offer at the moment. Although I haven't heard any music by Laura yet.
The Sleepy Jackson sound like the Panda Band with a bigger budget. This is a compliment. I also think 'Panda Band backing singer' is a better place for Katy Steele then 'Little Birdy frontwoman'.
We're also giving away Panda Band stuff on the site soon!
Aussie music is fun. I've only been here 3 years!
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A good post, including rants against scalpers and BDO ticketing strategies
QF fucking T.
Scalpers are becoming a huge fucking problem. This year I have missed out on tickets to Falls Festival, Harbourlife, Field Days, BDO, Tool, Muse, and several more great events that I would love to go and see because they've sold out within hours, with a significant proportion of those tickets going to scalpers.
Normally I'm a big fan of online things, but I for one would be happy to see the death of online ticketing, at least for big shows and festivals. Sure, it's really useful for smaller gigs, etc., but the ability to buy masses of tickets on different credit cards is giving scalpers free reign. Sites like eBay could do a shitload more to fix the problem, too.
Also, I'm sick of fucking bogan retards going along for the ride. I went to Parklife a few weekends ago, and a significant proportion of the crowd were Southern-Cross tattoo-sporting dickheads from the Shire, who were ramped up on Ice and Smirnoff, and they had a damn good shot at ruining the event. I have no doubt that BDO will be worse.
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I lost my girlfriend at Parklife because I hated dance music.
Or thought I did.
Um
St Jerome's Laneway Festival is announced on Friday. That should have a good lineup and no bogans.
But yeah... sideshows, people. Though i like the BDO vibe and i'm kinda bummed i don't have tix for BDO or Homebake. Even if the lineup's lame you're still spending all day wandering around seeing bands... and as much as its a guilty pleasure singing along to Helena or Mr Brightside with a zillion other people would be kinda cool
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Show me a photo and I'll tell you if I found her.
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didn't the both tour with Guitar Wolf?
Last time Guitar wolf came I'm pretty sure it was just Mach Pelican.
The next Guitar Wolf tour is happening in November to tie in with their appearance at Ramone-a-thon in Brisbane......which my band will be playing at.....*yessssssssss!
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Its certainly a waste of cash but I may end up going anyway becouse no matter what decent acts get anounced I know they won't do a Brisbane sideshow (DAMN YOU SPENDOR IN THE GRASS!) I when I was yonger I would've killed to see tool. These days, meh.
Plus the BDO degenerates will be there... (Sanity retaining tip #523: DO NOT LOOK AT THE BDO FORUMS)
Violent Femmes, Spazzys and Peaches would be rad though. Also whats this talk of New Porno's? I haven't seen any anouncements about them.
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http://www.liveguide.com.au/liveguide_tours.html#The%20New%20Pornographers
Look at me! I'm marketing virally!
Tour was announced today. Its a Merideth sideshow. I'm hoping Neko Case does her own show.
Spazzys aren't worth a BDO for... they play everywhere, and weren't even worth headlining last year's first Come Together.
I heard BDO forum was the big Aussie music board. Why are there so many Aussie music fans here, BTW?
Cheap Trick/Thin Lizzy also announced today as well as My Chemical Romance sideshows
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Why are there so many Aussie music fans here, BTW?
I'd like to know this as well, there seems to be an inproportiante amount of Aussies on this place... What's the deal yo?
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As an Aussie I think it might have to do with the distinct lack of indie music info available.
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Why are there so many Aussie music fans here, BTW?
I'd like to know this as well, there seems to be an inproportiante amount of Aussies on this place... What's the deal yo?
hmmm... where else is there for Aussie music fans to hang out online? FasterLouder, BDO forums, band forums (i'm a Grates board guy... sad, i know)... and Jeph has supported live music
but i don't see anyone from Simon's Rock, despite Jeph having gone there
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St Jerome's Laneway Festival is announced on Friday. That should have a good lineup and no bogans
Hey, don't put it past them. I was at last year's festival & had my enjoyment of BSS absolutely ruined by all the shitfaced bogans pushing past me into an already sardine-packed space. These people have absolutely no respect for others. One drunk fuck actually shouted "MOVE!" and charged elbows-first into a bunch of ladies.
Goddamn fucking assholes.
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Show etiquette ftw.
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http://www.liveguide.com.au/liveguide_tours.html#Modest%20Mouse
MODEST MOUSE SIDESHOWS.
POSSIBLY WITH JOHNNY MARR
I feel dumb because I just got into them last year... but i'm still psyched about this
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Hey, don't put it past them. I was at last year's festival & had my enjoyment of BSS absolutely ruined by all the shitfaced bogans pushing past me into an already sardine-packed space. These people have absolutely no respect for others. One drunk fuck actually shouted "MOVE!" and charged elbows-first into a bunch of ladies.
Goddamn fucking assholes.
You should have seen some of the ice-fueled shit that happened at Parklife.
Example story that I heard (didn't see, but I have no reason to disbelieve) involved some Southern-Cross sporting wanker who walked up to a girl he didn't know and grabbed her full by the crotch. She screamed, her boyfriend intervened, and was promptly set upon by the dude and three of his mates. He got pretty much destroyed, had his hand shattered with a chair, and while her boyfriend was lying bleeding on the ground, the girl was then forcibly ejected by security for "starting a fight"(!)
Scum. Absolute fucking scum.
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wheres the excitement??? I'm going and I'm stoked ... Gold Coast FTW, why can't anyone else get excited with me :-( Tool, Muse, The Killers, Eskimo Joe ..... hell yes!
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Cheap Trick/Thin Lizzy also announced today as well as My Chemical Romance sideshows
how the fuck do you have a thin lizzy show without phil...he made the fucking band
in other news you can always count on the fact that living end will play, considering howmuch crane have been touring for their last album wouldn't be surprized if they popped up but seriously guys big day out is all about minor acts not the headlines, where else do you get to hear dresden dolls before they made a studio release
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Hey, don't put it past them. I was at last year's festival & had my enjoyment of BSS absolutely ruined by all the shitfaced bogans pushing past me into an already sardine-packed space. These people have absolutely no respect for others. One drunk fuck actually shouted "MOVE!" and charged elbows-first into a bunch of ladies.
Goddamn fucking assholes.
You should have seen some of the ice-fueled shit that happened at Parklife.
Example story that I heard (didn't see, but I have no reason to disbelieve) involved some Southern-Cross sporting wanker who walked up to a girl he didn't know and grabbed her full by the crotch. She screamed, her boyfriend intervened, and was promptly set upon by the dude and three of his mates. He got pretty much destroyed, had his hand shattered with a chair, and while her boyfriend was lying bleeding on the ground, the girl was then forcibly ejected by security for "starting a fight"(!)
Scum. Absolute fucking scum.
'all' i saw was 3 security guards tackling a dude who jumped the fest, twisting his arm and spilling my friends' beer... at like 10am
that and some assholes yelling at Peter Hook that 'you killed Ian Curtis' and 'Ian Curtis killed himself because of you'
in our defense, we were really drunk and he was a bad DJ
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ouch.
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Two weeks later I saw Craig Nicholls from the Vines outside a Grates show and started talking about 'Get Free' 'yeah, wasn't that a song from the 70s?' 'some one-hit wonder band'
then he asked if we wanted autographs
then i remembered he had Aspergers and i felt bad, so i apologized
he's all puffy with Shane McGowan teeth
I'm a bad person
and i still haven't made the mix of Jeff Mangum rarties i promised the Grates' drummer
horrible name-dropping aside, BDO will suck and i'm not buying tickets
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Actually, now that I think about it, it kind of makes sense that the dude would have Aspergers. It is pretty ridiculous for someone with it to be in a massivly successful band, I kind of feel sorry for the dude.
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He just looked... sad. A few people recognized him, but mostly people were squealing over the Grates. I think he signed some autographs and hung out at the afterparty.
http://flickr.com/photos/chrisbrimstone/269887855/ its pretty sad
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*Shudders* Tool is on the same bill as My Chemical fucking Romance?
Truly, the end of the days has come.
Maynard James Keenan and co. are miles above those guys and their eyeliner. :|
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Woah... you have no idea do you?
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freakin spazzys >.<
Saw them at Come Together Festival, was dissapointed. Although they had a damn good guest drummer (drummer got sick, dude learnt their set in bout an hour before they went on).
anyways, sadly i havent made it to BDO yet, (parents suck, so does living in rural nsw), but i plan to make it to 2008 BDO, 2007 line-up sucks, hopefully 2008 will be better.
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Second Announcement:
The Streets, Kasabian, Crystal Method DJs, Lily Allen, Lupe Fiasco, Justice, Trivium, John Cooper Clarke, Afra & The Incredible Beatbox Band, Diplo, John Butler Trio, Something for Kate, You Am I, Little Birdy, The Presets, Bob Evans, The Drone, The Butterfly Effect, love [tattoo] and Shapeshifter.
Verdict: STILL LAME (although Lupe Fiasco would be great, and Lily Allen and the Streets would at least be interesting).
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There is no saving this Big Day Out.
Seeing as how I can clearly hear every note from my house . . . I'm going to have to find somewhere else to be that day.
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The only band I know on that second list is Trivium, and they suck.
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Second Announcement:
The Streets, Kasabian, Crystal Method DJs, Lily Allen, Lupe Fiasco, Justice, Trivium, John Cooper Clarke, Afra & The Incredible Beatbox Band, Diplo, John Butler Trio, Something for Kate, You Am I, Little Birdy, The Presets, Bob Evans, The Drone, The Butterfly Effect, love [tattoo] and Shapeshifter.
Verdict: STILL LAME (although Lupe Fiasco would be great, and Lily Allen and the Streets would at least be interesting).
Yah, but thats what sideshows are for
The band i'm most excited about on that list is You Am I, and they live a train ride away (though i still haven't seen them)
i'm the last to know about this, though... lame
so glad i'm not going
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Yeah it is a pretty shit second announcement. None of the international acts on it interest me in the slightest, and I can see Something For Kate or You Am I on a regular enough basis for me not to give a shit. I was hoping for an insanely spectacular second announcement full of fun bands I had never seen live before, so that I might actually bother to dance like a puppet for their lottery system.
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you know what really pisses me off? every year i meet people like you group of idiots who hate the BDO announcements and go off on a fucking rant about how no good bands ever EVER come and its a big pile of shit
fuck you
yeah you heard
the BDO is fun. I go ever year and i have always found something enjoyable. this year was particularly good as two bands, known for their awesome live shows, played the night away. as well as one of my favorite bands from childhood (the femmes) turning ups as well. Kasabian played an awesome show and it was absolutely fuckign awesome to see Craig Nicholes put on a show like that.
My point is, if you dont wanna go, then dont. but dont complain to me that the festival i enjoy going to, REGARDLESS of who is playing isnt living up to your fucking godlike standards
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You know what bothers me? When people resurrect a 3 month old thread to go on a self-righteous rant.
I guess we all owe you an apology though.
I am sorry that paying 125 dollars for an average festival is something I don't like to do. I'm sorry don't like the large crowds of dickheads who just go to get drunk either. I'm especially sorry I resent the way the event organizers are so fucking terrified of liability because of the sheer amount of fuckheads there, that I have to physically restrain myself from having fun.
I am especially sorry that my desire not to bend over and take it in the butt might be so vehement that I might want to express my dislike of something on the internet.
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for the record i was searching for a big day out forum here in the hopes of discussing the show. you know, with some of the people like me who enjoy shelling out money to see things. i was shocked to see this thread and i thought it deserved some say so. see, like i said, i enjoyed myself. i ALWAYS enjoy myself that the bdo. i thought, rather than start a thread about it and get redirected here, id search for one and post in that.
i just dont see why you people cant find SOMETHING to like about a festival like the BDO. it boggles the mind that in a croud of thousands with plenty of bands and other things (dance acts, art installations, fucking carnival rides) you can somehow find a way to have a bad time. it just confuses me. Yes the price is high, yes there are idiots in a croud that big, these are small things that are easily circumvented by the amount of fun you have if you want to.
Thats all i really wanted to say. The show - again for the record- was incredible. there was not a performance (besides macromantics) that i could say was anything close to sub par. i got loads of free hugs and enjoyed myself immensely. I just want it known that its not that bad
as for the liabilty thing? if a girl died at your show, regardless of the circumstances, im pretty sure you would be smart enough to impliment some kind of safety deal as well so that, god forbid, it happens again you can outline what you did in order to prevent it
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Look, if you want to discuss the show, talk about what you enjoyed, don't insult us by implying we hate fun, or whatever the fuck your intent was. I doubt anyone is going to jump down your throat for disagreeing with you if you just try to be civil.
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just saying it was worth it hat, a contrary opinion, no intention to cause harm
the show was awesome, i am convinced that i must listen to Kasabian some more. anybody who can own an audience like they did deserve my respect. Muse and Tool were absolutely mind blowing. Tool opened on Stinkfist and played a whole bunch of their old stuff. Watching Craig come back from a severe mental illness to put on a surprisingly good show is something i must respect, and i do have to give a shoutout to the Sick Puppies fan who dropped the "Free Hugs" sign that, in my hands, turned out to be the single most powerful object in the universe. all in all about 200 hugs.
so yeah, fun fun fun
did anyone else actually go to the show?
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absolutely del
How was the fruit and sports drinks?
absolutely delish
thanks for asking
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just saying it was worth it hat, a contrary opinion, no intention to cause harm
fuck you
yeah you heard
fuck you
fuck you
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well that was fun...i went yesterday
i'm now sunburnt my neck hurts and i have that annoying ringing in my ears