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Title: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Banana_Hammock on 23 May 2006, 08:29
I have been trying to get into Jazz lately but I don’t really know where to start…

I have a rather diverse music taste, stretching from Johnny Cash to Velvet Underground to the Clash to Neutral Milk Hotel and beyond, but Jazz is a mystery to me, mainly because my father whom has inspired my music taste a lot hates it…

I’ve bought a few Miles Davis albums (Birth of Cool, Kind of Blue and Porgy and Bess) which I love, but I don’t really know where to go from here. Any suggestions?
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Post by: mrpaku on 23 May 2006, 08:33
I'd say most anything by John Coltrane.
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Post by: Thrillho on 23 May 2006, 08:43
The National Anthem by Radiohead is probably a decent starting point. It's kind of them saying 'what if we did jazz?'

It's not completely jazz, I guess. Proper jazz fans would probably shit on it, but it's got the kind of squeaky horn wankery on it that has become synonymous with jazz.
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Post by: timehat on 23 May 2006, 08:47
Keeping things diverse: Mahavishnu Orchestra, McCoy Tyner, Ornette Coleman, Antonio Carlos Jobim (not technically jazz, but very influenced by it and very influential to it).
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Post by: Fipher on 23 May 2006, 08:52
If you're looking for big band type jazz, Frank Senatra is King while Glenn Miller is like his brother who didn't get the throne because of some minor detail in the law of the crown.
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Post by: alyosha on 23 May 2006, 09:21
It depends on what kind of Jazz you want.  

For Hot/Big Band Jazz, I'd suggest George Gershwin, Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, Billie Holiday, Ella FItzgerald, Diana Krall, Keely Smith, Louis Armstrong, and, well, Squirrel nut Zippers.  

For Bebop, Check out Thelonius Monk and CHarlie Parker.  Honorable Mentions to Duke Ellington and Miles Davis.

For fusion, I'd recommend Herbie Hancock, Blood, Sweat and Tears, and any sort of 70's funk mix.

For more modern Jazz, I'll second Coltrane, and add Branford Marsalis, and Dave Brubeck.

If you want some experimental music, the classic example is John Cage, and I'd even suggest some early Bruce Springsteen, notably "The Wild, THe Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle" and his newest Album: "The Seeger Sessions"

Edit:  for some good neuveaux Brass:  Rebirth Brass Band, Vavavoom, Tijuana Brass, Elvis COstello and the Metropol Orkest, and, heck, get Sirius Sattellite and Listen to Channel 24...



Enter some of these names in the Music Genome Project at www.pandora.com for some more suggestions.
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Post by: Misereatur on 23 May 2006, 10:35
Miles Davis is a good start (Birth of the cool - Cool Jazz, and Kind of Blue - Modal Jazz, both styles are part of the Post Bop period of Jazz Miles was coming from). Go further with Charlie Parker and Coltrane (Start with his early recordings) both are Bebop and some Post Bop. For more good Bebop go with Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers.
If your into Avant Grade, go for Ornette Coleman, Erick Dolphi and John Zorn - fronting the Free Jazz Movement.
For good Hard Bop go for Tom Harrell. And try Medeski, Martin & Wood for a modern trio.
If your into Vocal Jazz, try Dianne Reeves and her amazing trio (they're fucking brilliant live)
For fusion check out Weather Report, Spyro Gyra, Dave Weckl group and of course Jaco Partorius solo works.

Jazz is a very interesting and allways innovative style of music, good luck with it. Plus, keep All Music (http://www.allmusic.com) by your side for future references.

Als0, Duke Ellington is Swing, a pre-Bebop movement in Jazz. Not Bebop. Swing was a Big Band orianted music, very different from Bebop (why? books have been written about it, I'm not going to get into it here).
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Post by: Luke on 23 May 2006, 13:07
"Lullaby" by Ben Folds, and I'll second The National Anthem by Radiohead. It's a fucking strange song, but it has that jazzy element to it.

I get the impression that Ben Folds would make an excellent jazz pianist, but he leans more towards rock in most of his music. Lullaby is a good jazz track though.
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Post by: thedevilissix on 23 May 2006, 13:38
Art fookin' Blakey an' his fookin' Jazz Messengers, like.
Top drumming, top grooving, top times.

Also The Bad Plus for lovely jazz takes upon your favourite rock and techno standards (e.g. Aphex's "Flim" and a "Smells Like Teen Spirit" cover that is actually *gosh* good.
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Post by: TheMike on 23 May 2006, 13:57
Count Basie, Thelonious Monk, Charles Mingus

Thelonious Monk and Count Basie are my absolute two favorite jazz artists ever, ever. You can't go wrong with any of their albums.
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Post by: KharBevNor on 23 May 2006, 14:40
Does anyone know any jazz (or anything really) that sounds like this:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D0A71F6B22E9AADA
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Post by: Banana_Hammock on 23 May 2006, 15:37
Thanks for all the suggestions.... I've got some listening to do now.
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Post by: darkhorizons on 23 May 2006, 17:18
OH!  Good thing this was here!

Guys, I have to do a Jazz solo sometime next month.  And yes.  I listen to a bit of jazz, but not enough to pick out a quality solo out of the mess.

I need some sort of jazz ballad I can sing without much difficulty.  I'm a Contralto with a relatively limited range.  Any help would be appreciated greatly!
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Post by: Kai on 23 May 2006, 17:30
I think everyone in here should go out and buy Archie Shepp's St. Louis Blues. that is a beautiful jazz album.
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Post by: Inlander on 23 May 2006, 17:32
Quote from: Fipher
If you're looking for big band type jazz, Frank Senatra is King while Glenn Miller is like his brother who didn't get the throne because of some minor detail in the law of the crown.


You have got to be kidding me.  Frank Sinatra's great, but he is far from being the be-all and end-all of big band.

BIG BAND:

- Duke Ellington: anything from the early 1940s (the "Blanton-Webster" band), especially from 1940.  Tracks to keep an eye out for: "Jack the Bear", "Ko-Ko", "Morning Glory", "Concerto for Cootie", "Cottontail", "Never No Lament", "Bojangles", etc.

- Count Basie: most recordings from the late 1930s through to the mid-to-late 1950s.  Lots of great albums in the '50s especially: Chairman of the Board, the Complete Atomic Basie, Count Basie Swings, Joe Williams Sings.  Also look for compilations of the Decca recordings of his "first testament" band from 1937-39.

- Benny Goodman: the Carnegie Hall concert from 1938 is a classic.  The sound-quality's band, but the music's great, especially in the second half.

- Gerry Mulligan: very different from the above-mentioned names (all of whom are swing - Mulligan is modern jazz), but his Concert Jazz Band from the 1960s was terrific.  There are a few live recordings out - get any of them.

I don't have time right now to write out an exhaustive list of jazz essentials, but I'll try to get back to this thread soon.  In the meantime, I'll suggest the following proven technique of getting into new music: if you hear an album you like, find out who's playing on it.  Then find out who else they played with.  Buy albums by those people.  And so on - pretty soon you'll have a chain of cool albums you like, and you'll be learning more all the time.
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Post by: Kai on 23 May 2006, 17:33
That method (usually) works out great for jazz. Like, more so than pretty much anything else ever.
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Post by: Inlander on 23 May 2006, 17:53
That's because in jazz, everyone plays with everyone else.
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Post by: nuisance on 23 May 2006, 22:21
Quote from: KharBevNor
Does anyone know any jazz (or anything really) that sounds like this:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D0A71F6B22E9AADA


Hmm.. vocally, it's a lot like a bunch of really bad acid jazz, which I don't think you'd like.  The context makes it more twisted and ... problematic. :)  I think you'd be hard pressed to find other things like that.  

Since I'm here and you seem to write about this kind of neo-folk and also metal a lot, have you heard Linda Perhacs' 'Parallelograms'?  From mid-70s, psych-folk, the singer for Opeth rabbits on about how good she is, from memory.  Are Opeth cool with metallers?  *shrug*  I don't know my metal from my ass (although I do know that's almost a Metallica reference ;)).

As for jazz, dunno.  FMP seem to be the label to check if you want free, but the original poster sounds like they're looking for something way more mellow.  Peter Brötzmann's 'Machine Gun' (on FMP, 1968) is just brutal... distorted squalling wall of saxophone and drum fury.  No form of rock from the time approaches its onslaught.  Of course, I think it's unlistenable. :)
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Post by: bitches on 24 May 2006, 00:46
Radiohead?  John Cage?  Ben Folds?

"LISTEN TO BOB DYLAN FOR SOME GOOD RAP HURR DURR"
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Post by: Misereatur on 24 May 2006, 08:32
Quote from: KharBevNor
Does anyone know any jazz (or anything really) that sounds like this:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D0A71F6B22E9AADA


Try Chick Corea's Spain and Return to Forever albums. Might not be what your looking for (mainly Latin Jazz). I cant think of any albums that are as awsome as Sol Invictus' Hill Of Crosses though.
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Post by: thedevilissix on 24 May 2006, 09:28
Banana_Hammock, if you're looking to listen to any more Miles Davis, then seriously, you cannot go wrong with "Bitches Brew".  It is otherworldly.  It consists of two 10-20 min tracks, but this is 10-20 minutes where you're consistently kept interested.  This is coming from someone who, aside from Godspeed You! Black Emperor's Lift Yr. Skinny Fists, Sonna and some classical pieces, hates long songs that outstay their welcome. :)

Along the vocal side of things, joint number one choice for me would be Nina Simone (vocal, lyrical and pianistic genius) and Ella Fitzgerald (the reason why the word 'scat' should never have been blackened with foul connotations of strange lifestyle choice).   I never really got into Billie Holliday's music, but it's still worth a try.
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Post by: Aneurhythmia on 24 May 2006, 13:56
Quote from: thedevilissix
Banana_Hammock, if you're looking to listen to any more Miles Davis, then seriously, you cannot go wrong with "Bitches Brew".  It is otherworldly.  It consists of two 10-20 min tracks, but this is 10-20 minutes where you're consistently kept interested.  This is coming from someone who, aside from Godspeed You! Black Emperor's Lift Yr. Skinny Fists, Sonna and some classical pieces, hates long songs that outstay their welcome. :)

Two tracks?  Pharaoh's Dance and Bitches Brew are just the first disc.  The second disc has 4 or 5 more songs.  There's also some equally awesome pieces on Live Evil, especially on the live session half.
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Post by: Misereatur on 24 May 2006, 14:55
You have to understand the Bitch's Brew was Miles expirimenting with Jazz Rock. Back then nobody did it, and Miles was really the first to realise that he could use Rock's rythem section and electric instruments in his Jazz. When the album first came out many Jazz artists called Miles a sellout and said the album was'nt Jazz. They were'nt so far off, it is'nt pure Jazz.
Its a great album, yeah, but it's not what that guy is looking for.
Plus, if he does, I'd highly recommend going over Miles' albums before that one, just to see where he came from.
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Post by: jose on 24 May 2006, 15:39
Quote from: Banana_Hammock

I have a rather diverse music taste, stretching from Johnny Cash to Velvet Underground to the Clash to Neutral Milk Hotel and beyond


can you really say this with a straight face?

Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is probably my favorite jazz album.

You should probably start with Miles Davis' - Kind of Blue like the other people were saying though
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Post by: mechaThor on 24 May 2006, 17:07
When It comes to big-bands I always put my money on Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band (very very tight and talented band) and Mingus Big Band. Glenn Miller is more of the classical big-band tone however. Cannonball Adderly is also a very good saxophone soloist, probably one of my favorites. Very good tone and such, one of my favorites is 'Work Song- Live in Belgium on Aug. 5th, 1962.' Big Bad Voodoo Daddy is also very good, in addition to Buddy Rich Big Band (Channel One Suite: very good song), Tom Scott & L.A. Express. Jaco Pastorius is also very classic as well, in addition to Weather Report and that whole deal. Thats just my two cents :p
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Post by: Shaft on 24 May 2006, 17:34
Yes. Don't listen to Radiohead if you want jazz.

Modern jazz can be good too - Skalpel are okay, cinematic orchestra's first album is okay, I agree with Chick corea and the bad plus. Oh and Ella Fitzgerald!
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Post by: Johnny C on 24 May 2006, 17:42
"The National Anthem" struck me more as a funky sort of song, rather than jazzy.

Anyways. Ella Fitzgerald. Billie Holliday. Louis Armstrong. I second or third or whatever all of those.

Oscar Peterson is pretty good too.
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Post by: Der Golem on 24 May 2006, 18:10
The Bad Plus is pretty much my favorate jazz group these days, you shpuld all go listen to their album These Are The Vistas. Amazing stuff.
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Post by: Inlander on 24 May 2006, 19:26
Okay, I'm sufficiently bored to have another crack at this.

Early Jazz:

- Louis Armstrong (should go without saying): get a collection of the Hot Fives/Hot Sevens recordings.  Columbia has done some amazing reissues of them - if you don't want to shell out for the whole lot, just buy volume 3.  Also, Louis Armstrong Plays W.C. Handy is one of the essential jazz albums.

- Bix Beiderbecke: get the (old) Columbia compilation Singin' the Blues.  That'll do you good.

- Sidney Bechet: Runnin' Wild is a great album.  Get it.

Swing:

I've already done Big Band, so here's some small group stuff well worth getting:

- Lester Young: the "Kansas City" Sessions.  If you can find a C.D. of this that just has the master takes, that's the one you should probably get.  If you like somewhat mellow, but still hard swinging music this will be right down your alley.  Also, try to find (under Count Basie's name) a compilation with the following four tracks on it: "Shoe Shine Boy", "Evenin'", "Boogie Woogie (I May Be Wrong)" and "Lady Be Good".  Lester Young is incredible on these recordings.  Other great albums featuring Young: Lester Young With The Oscar Peterson Trio, Pres and Teddy (featuring some gorgeous piano playing from Teddy Wilson).

- Ben Webster: most of his best stuff was done in the '50s.  Get Ben Webster Meets Oscar Peterson, it's one of the best jazz albums ever.  Also consider Coleman Hawkins Encounters Ben Webster.  Which brings me to . . .

- Coleman Hawkins: the first great tenor saxophone player in jazz.  There are masses of compilations called Body and Soul - the one put out by R.C.A. Victor is great, and features the title tune which is one of the greatest single recordings in jazz history.  Also worth getting is the Hawk Flies High.

- Benny Goodman: if you can find a good-priced compilation of his trio/quartet recordings with Teddy Wilson, Gene Krupa, and Lionel Hampton, buy it.

- Ella Fitzgerald: both the Cole Porter Songbook and the huge George and Ira Gershwin Songbook are well worth your time and money.  For something a little less formal, try the Duke Ellington Songbook.

- Billie Holiday: get any decent-sized compilation of her early (1930s-1940s) Columbia recordings you can get.  Columbia itself did an absolutely stunning job of remastering these a few years ago.  These are some of the greatest and most enjoyable recordings in jazz history.

Be-Bop:

- Charlie Parker: should go without saying.  Get a compilation of the Dial master takes.  Should be pretty easy to find a cheap version.  Parker's quintet at this time featured a very young Miles Davis.  Also, a couple of live recordings well worth picking up: the Quintet: Jazz at Massey Hall and Town Hall, New York City, June 22 1945, both with Dizzy Gillespie.  Speaking of whom . . .

- Dizzy Gillespie: get a compilation of the R.C.A. Victor big band recordings.  These are incredible, especially "Manteca"

- Charles Mingus: I'm putting him here to make things easier, because Mingus is pretty much uncategorisable.  If you buy no other jazz album, then buy Mingus Ah Um.  It's that good.  Also brilliant is Let My Children Hear Music.  There are so many good albums by Mingus that it's almost impossible to write a shortlist - try also Blues & Roots, Mingus At Antibes, the Clown, Pithecantrhopus Erectus, and the aforementioned the Black Saint and the Sinner Lady.

- Sarah Vaughan: her self-titled album (also sometimes known as Sarah Vaughan With Clifford Brown is terrific.

- Betty Carter: try to find [the Audience With Betty Carter[/i].

- Thelonius Monk: get a live recording by his famous quartet featuring Charlie Rouse.  Live at the It Club - Complete is a good one.  Also, as far as studio albums go, buy Monk's Music.

Cool:

One of the more stupid labels in jazz, but we'll let that slide for now.

- Gerry Mulligan: get a compilation of the original recordings with the Quartet, featuring Chet Baker.  Also well worth getting is the C.D. of Lee Konitz playing with this group.

- Stan Getz: the Steamer, West Coast Jazz and Stan Getz-Bob Brookmeyer Recorded Fall 1961 are all great albums.

- Miles Davis: like Mingus, uncategorisable.  But a lot of people like to put him under "cool jazz" so who am I to argue?  My personal favourite jazz album of all time is the (original) Miles Davis Quintet's 'Round About Midnight.  This particular group put out a whole string of great albums in the 1950s - Relaxin' and Cookin' are the other two best in my opinion.  Also, check out Birth of the Cool.

Hard Bop:

- Clifford Brown/Max Roach: the Clifford Brown-Max Roach Quintet was one of the great bands in jazz.  Get their self-titled album.  A Study in Brown, despite the title, is also worth getting.

- Art Blakey: Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers With Thelonius Monk is a great album.

- Lee Morgan: the Sidewinder.

- Kenny Dorham: Una Mas.  Also, the Complete 'Round About Midnight at the Cafe Bohemia.

. . . And that's about where I get off.  Have fun!  If I think of any more I consider essential I'll post 'em.
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Post by: bitches on 25 May 2006, 00:32
For post-1960 stuff, from where you are, start with:
John Coltrane - Giant Steps
Ornette Coleman - Shape of Jazz to Come
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Miles Davis - In a Silent Way
Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages

Then move onto:
John Coltrane - Ascension
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity
Ornette Coleman - Free Jazz

I guess this is all 60s stuff except Ask the Ages, but that doesn't exactly sound like it came out of the 90s.
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Post by: ASturge on 25 May 2006, 00:45
Tokyo Jihen - Adult

It's Japanese Jazz Pop Fusion of DEATH.

Awesome too.
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Post by: quietnow on 25 May 2006, 00:48
buddy rich!!!!
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Post by: thedevilissix on 26 May 2006, 03:00
Quote from: Misereatur
You have to understand the Bitch's Brew was Miles expirimenting with Jazz Rock. Back then nobody did it, and Miles was really the first to realise that he could use Rock's rythem section and electric instruments in his Jazz. When the album first came out many Jazz artists called Miles a sellout and said the album was'nt Jazz. They were'nt so far off, it is'nt pure Jazz.
Its a great album, yeah, but it's not what that guy is looking for.
Plus, if he does, I'd highly recommend going over Miles' albums before that one, just to see where he came from.


As much as I'd like to go on a "PURE-BREED GENRES?! PAH!!" tirade, you're on point.  
I guess if you're looking to get into jazz from the perspective of someone already familiar with rock music, listening to Bitches' may be an effective way to do it.  

Mind you, I once listened to it followed by Birth of The Cool and my mind unwittingly tried to set up comparison between the two - even though you can't, because they're really two completely different things.  So with that in mind, it might be a better idea to listen to something like Round About Midnight.

And yup, Bitches' is on two CDs.  I meant to say that the second one was bonus material and that the two tracks were on the original cut, but my brain's been cook'd the past couple of days from writing about Mozart operas >_< Sorry guys.
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Post by: Banana_Hammock on 26 May 2006, 04:15
Quote from: jose
Quote from: Banana_Hammock

I have a rather diverse music taste, stretching from Johnny Cash to Velvet Underground to the Clash to Neutral Milk Hotel and beyond


can you really say this with a straight face?


Why?


Thanks for all the suggestions, it will take some time to work through it all. I am loving Miles Davies at the moment though, and most of everything else you have suggested that I have had a chance to sample... Except maybe the vocal stuff (with the exeption of Nina Simone), I seem to prefer instrumental jazz....

A big thanks to Inlander, your posts really helped. Thanks especially for suggesting albums, it helps to have a place to start....
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Post by: jose on 26 May 2006, 10:06
Quote from: Banana_Hammock
Quote from: jose
Quote from: Banana_Hammock

I have a rather diverse music taste, stretching from Johnny Cash to Velvet Underground to the Clash to Neutral Milk Hotel and beyond


can you really say this with a straight face?


Why?


It's just I think you should be more self-critical about the supposed "diversity" of your music tastes if you think those artists are indicative of it.

also to add to recs.  Free Jazz classics (some already mentioned)
Albert Ayler - Live in Greenwich Village (complete impluse sessions)
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
Peter Brotzman - Nipples, Machine Gun
Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come, Free Jazz

Some of these (especially the Brotzman albums) aren't exactly accessable, but they can represent some of the best of jazz (that ayler set is so incredibly awesome).  Maybe try The Shape of Jazz to Come first, its probably the most accessable followed by Out to Lunch
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Post by: coloratura_siren on 26 May 2006, 10:44
Miles Davis - Miles Smiles
Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
John Coltrane - Giant Steps
John Coltrane - Blue Train
John Coltrane - Crescent
Count Basie - Basie Big Band
Curtis Fuller - Keep It Simple
Eric Alexander - Nightlife in Tokyo
Frank Rosolino - Fond Memories of
Max Roach - Parisian Sketches
Herbie Hancock - Empyrian Isles
Jaco Pastorius - Jaco Pastorius
Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers - Ugetsu
Michel Camilo - Michel Camilo
Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life
Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior
Return to Forever - Return to the 7th Galaxy
Robin Eubanks and Mental Images - Get 2 It
Royal Crown Revue - The Contender
Stanley Clarke - School Days
Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil
Weather Report - 8:30
Weather Report - Heavy Weather
Béla Fleck and the Flecktones - Left of Cool
Béla Fleck and the Flecktones - Outbound
Béla Fleck and the Flecktones - Live at the Quick
Béla Fleck and the Flecktones - Live Art
Bob Mintzer Big Band - Live at the MCG
The Brecker Brothers - The Brecker Brothers Collection Vol 1
The Brecker Brothers - The Brecker Brothers Collection Vol 2
Carl Fontana - The Great Fontana
Dave Holland Quintet - Prime Directive
Dave Holland Quintet - Extended Play: Live at Birdland
Dave Weckl Band - Synergy
JJ Johnson and Kai Winding - The Great Kai and JJ
Kenny Garrett - Persuance:  The Music of John Coltrane
Medeski, Martin, and Wood - Uninvisible
Medeski, Martin, and Wood - Combustication
Marcus Miller - Silver Rain
Marcus Miller - The Sun Don't Shine
Michael Manring - The Book of Flame
Vital Tech Tones - Vital Tech Tones
Tribal Tech - Primal Tracks
Metalwood - 1
Metalwood - 2
Metalwood - 3
Metalwood - The Recline
Metalwood - Chronic
Victor Wooten - A Show of Hands
Victor Wooten - Yin Yang


That should get you started.  An even 50.
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Post by: IronOxide on 26 May 2006, 18:04
A short list

Trumpet:
- Miles Davis
- Louis Armstrong
- Wynton Marsallis
- Al Hirt
- Maynard Ferguson

Sax:
- Branford Marsallis (Wynton's Brother)
- John Coltrane

Singers:
- Ella Fitzgerald
- Louis Armstrong (Minus What a Wonderful World)
- Billie Holiday
- Nat King Cole
- Frank Sinatra

Bands/Writers:
- Duke Ellington & His Band
- Herb Albpert and the Tiajuana Brass

Those are some of my favorites and some of the most prolific of the jazz musicians.
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Post by: brew on 26 May 2006, 22:45
Quote from: thedevilissix
And yup, Bitches' is on two CDs.  I meant to say that the second one was bonus material and that the two tracks were on the original cut


The second one isn't only bonus material though... most of the stuff on that disc is part of the original album.

For more stuff on the less accessible side, I also like:
- John Coltrane - Olatunji Concert: The Last Live Recording
- Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman
- Derek Bailey - Ballads

I've also found some Evan Parker stuff interesting too but haven't actually listened to it all that much yet.  Same with the ICP... I think I've just heard that Sonic Youth collab on record, but they were great live.  It would be cool if anyone can recommend more stuff on this side of things.

For the original poster though, I think '50s Miles, Coltrane from '65 and earlier, Monk, Mingus and Charlie Parker are the first places to look.
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Post by: Mockery on 27 May 2006, 11:59
Surely at least Inlander must have heard of James Morrison (http://www.jamesmorrison.com.au/)...

One of Australia's finest Jazz musicians, mostly plays trumpet, but also moves to trombone and other instruments.

There's quite a bit of free music available on his website, check out the multimedia page. I recommend 'Le Belleclaire Blues'. I love it because I know the piece inside out, having performed it back in high school. Another cool thing about this track is that James Morrison plays ALL the trumpet, trombone & saxophone parts and they're dubbed together. And it comes out AWESOME.

Also check out 'Scream Machine', 'The Spot', and definitely 'What a Wonderful World'. (I mean hey, download them all, it's there & it's free, but those ones I recommend most)
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Post by: Misereatur on 27 May 2006, 15:43
Quote from: jose
also to add to recs.  Free Jazz classics (some already mentioned)
Albert Ayler - Live in Greenwich Village (complete impluse sessions)
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
Peter Brotzman - Nipples, Machine Gun
Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come, Free Jazz

Some of these (especially the Brotzman albums) aren't exactly accessable, but they can represent some of the best of jazz (that ayler set is so incredibly awesome).  Maybe try The Shape of Jazz to Come first, its probably the most accessable followed by Out to Lunch


QFT

Also, Free Jazz is one of the most amazing albums I own. The kind of album that every time you listen to it you'll find somthing new.
Warning to those who dont know Free Jazz and plan to listen to the album: 47 minutes of collective improvs from a double quartet. It will sound like mindless cacaphony at first. So start with The Shape Of Jazz To Come and work your way to it.
When I first listened to it I turned it off after 30 seconds. Now I love every second of it.
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Post by: bassbone on 31 May 2006, 00:16
Check out some Wycliffe Gordon for some amazingly soulful trombone playing. One of his albums is a pure gospel album, but it's heart and soul is jazz. ONe of the best records in my collection. Also, anything with "Jay and Kai" is a good bet. JJ Johnsen and Kai Winding are two of the greatest trombone players of all time. I know, I know, it seems like I'm focusing on trombone too much, but imo it gets short shrift in the music world. A wholly underappreciated instrument.

I second a lot of what's said further up. John Coltrane's Blue Train is always a good bed. So is the Count Basie Orchestra, one of the most swingin' bands of all time. If you can check out Duke Ellington Meets Count Basie which has both bands playing together some incredible charts. One of the best ways to get into Jazz is to go to local shows and talk to the musicians. They'll be able to help.
Title: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Fortnight on 31 May 2006, 04:17
Raymond Scott!! EEEEEEEEEE
Title: Jazz - Help?
Post by: penpen17 on 31 May 2006, 05:58
ELLA FITZGERALD

Also, some of Regina Spektor's stuff is very jazz-influenced (especially 11:11)
Title: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jeph on 04 Oct 2006, 19:53
I really like that new Nachtmystium album, but I know precious little about the genre as a whole. TELL ME ABOUT SOME OTHER BANDS YOU THINK I MIGHT ENJOY.

Bonus points if the recording quality isn't complete trash, but I realize that may be asking a bit much since I guess that is part of the black metal "sound"?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 04 Oct 2006, 20:00
Yeah, shitty sound quality is more or less 'the deal' with black metal.

While they're not techinically 'pure' black metal, Absu is amazing.

EDIT: Khar and Troll probably have the final word on this, but I'd also suggest Satyricon, Xasthur, and Ulver. Maybe Immortal too.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 04 Oct 2006, 23:41
Heres a pretty varried selection that will help get you started, most of these have the more traditional production, trust me after a week you be used to the sound.

Ulver - "Bergtatt" (first folk bm album, theres a flute passage that is astounding and Garm's voice is amazing, one of the best singers I've heard in any genre)
Nokturnal Mortum - "Ne-Christ and "Lunar Poetery" (Ukrainian folk BM band, really good keyboards)
Judas Iscariot - "Of Great Eternity"  "Distant in Solitary Night" and "Heaven in Flames" (Only American band in my list)
Burzum - "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" and "Filosofem" (All Burzum is pretty much essential, Vargs, not the most technically competent musician, but he is one of the greatset composers ever)
Immortal - "Pure Holocaust" (Fast BM, blastbeats and all done right)
Gehenna -"Seen through veils of Darkness (The Second Spell)" (getting into the melodic BM now)
Old Man's Child - "Born of the Flickering" (Amazing album)
Darkthrone - "Under a Funeral Moon" (The production is absolutely horrible but you won't notice it)
Beherit - "Drawing Down the Moon" (This is what started the 'suicidal bm' subgenre, very good)
Emperor - "In The Nightside Eclipse" (really good, Ihsahn is another amazing composer)
The Covenant - "Nexus Polaris" (Don't get the remixed version, its rubbish, spacey melo dm)
Summoning - "Dol Guldur" (BM with heavy ambient leanings, influenced by tolkein, highly reccomended).
Bathory - "The Return" (One of the albums that started the genre, production is atrocious, in a good way.)




Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Oct 2006, 03:33
Seeing that the only black metal I have is INM and three Gorgoroth songs from when Pest did vocals, I am probably not of any help. I do know however that Mayhem has their entire "Pure Fucking Armegeddon" demo on their website somewhere. You might want to give that a go.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Oct 2006, 04:00
I find it immensely funny that every recommendations thread invariably has someone saying:'Wait until Khar gets on, he can help you out.'

That being said: I'd recommend Negura Bunget. Romanian BM. Yummie. And they have the best site anywhere: http://www.negurabunget.com/.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Luke C on 05 Oct 2006, 04:13
When it comes to reccomending sub-genres of metal Khar really is THE man. I do like metal but not so much stuff like black metal.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 05 Oct 2006, 04:53
I'd go with Deathspell Omega, Blut Aus Nord (especially The Work Which Transforms God) and Dodheimsgard's 666 International for some decent BM. Dodheimsgard are pretty avant-grade and it take a few listens to get into.

Also, obviously, Absu for some kick ass folk black from Texas.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Raven_1959 on 05 Oct 2006, 06:23
Emperor - "In The Nightside Eclipse" (really good, Ihsahn is another amazing composer)
If you like Emperor, Ihsahn's solo album is also worth a look.  It isn't completely BM, but what I've heard is still fantastic.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 05 Oct 2006, 08:49
Blut Aus Nord (especially The Work Which Transforms God)

Seconded, that album's amazing. If the pure BM isn't going down well but you'd like to try something with that sound I'd recommend Teen Cthulhu (think His Hero Is Gone playing BM) and Anaal Nathrakh (they've always sounded a little bit grindcore to me). Neither have the usual BM production values.

But remember, think twice before paying money for NSBM. I like some of that stuff myself, but I'd never want Graveland etc to actually receive money from me. I'd rather rob their nazi asses.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Oct 2006, 09:00
I never really got in to Dodheimsgard. Their avant-garde elements have always seemed to forced for my tastes, I may try them again.

Right, anyway, you like Agalloch, so I'll back up that Ulver recommendation, and you'd also probably better check out Woods of Ypres  - Pursuit of the Sun & Allure of the Earth (vastly pretentious, but I like it). Scytales list is pretty good, but I think some of the suggestions (Beherit, Judas Iscariot, maybe Burzum) would probably be better appreciated if you'd listened round the genre a bit first. It took me literally years to get into black metal properly, starting with Dimmu Borgir and working upwards. Here's a couple more suggestions, maybe some more mainstream or veering off from black metal a bit, but I think they'll all help you build an appreciation of the whole thing, some EPs in here as well:

1349 - "Chaos Preferred"
Abigail - "Intercourse and Lust"
Aborym - "Fire Walk With Me" and "With No Human Intervention"
Ancient Rites - "Dim Carcosa" and "And the Hordes Stood as One" (An essential live album)
Borknagar - "The Olden Domain"
Carpathian Forest - "Defending the Throne of Evil" and "Morbid Fascination of Death"
Impaled Nazarene - "Suomi Finland Perkele"
Nattefrost - "Blood and Vomit"
Sigh - "Scorn Defeat"
Venom - "Black Metal" (Not really BM, but you've gotta hear it)


And I'd recommend you start with Immortal on 'Battles in the North' and Darkthrone on 'Transilvanian Hunger', but that's mainly taste. Burzum, however, I think you should definitely start on with the self-titled, like, it's just a rule.

Once you get more in to the whole thing, try:

Abyssic Hate - "Depression", "Suicidal Emotions" and the "United By Heathen Blood" split with Det Hedenske Folk
Horna - "Viha Ja Viikate", "Envaatnags Eflos Solf Esgantaavne" and "Sudentaival"
Nortt - "Gudsforladt"
Profanatica - "The Enemy of Virtue"
Vlad Tepes - "Celtic Poetry", "Dans Notre Chute" and the "March to the Black Holocaust" split with Belketre
Xasthur - "The Funeral of Being"


The thing to remember when you listen to black metal is that bands are normally either entirely serious or entirely not serious, and that bands in each category have to be listened to in the way they are intended to be listened to to be truly enjoyed, if that makes sense. Some black metal can be like a religious experience, some is designed to be drinking music. Give each its due, and simply ignore  the really offensive aspects. It's all about the atmosphere.


Oh, and though by all means listen to them, because they do rock, don't actually buy any Nokturnal Mortum records, because they're fucking nazis and funding nazis is bad.

EDIT: Yeah, see above.

Also, this lists probably a bit scarce because I'm in my halls of residence room right now and I don't have my whole music collection with me, this is just from memory. Most if not all the other suggestions are quality though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 05 Oct 2006, 09:40
I've been waiting for Khar's post. Anyway, I just remmembered to recommend Dornenreich's Her von welken Nachten. Brilliant avante-grade/melodic BM. I've been listening to that album non stop for like a year now.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Oct 2006, 12:18
I don't know that I'd call Borknagar black metal anymore, but they are still awesome.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jeph on 05 Oct 2006, 13:33
BitTorrent is chuggin' away as we speak, thankyou for the recommendations fellows!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 05 Oct 2006, 13:37
I don't know that I'd call Borknagar black metal anymore, but they are still awesome.

I think you can call Borknagar progressive black metal. Kind of like Enslaved.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Oct 2006, 19:05
I don't know that I'd call Borknagar black metal anymore,

I wouldn't, which is why I recommended their second album.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: timehat on 05 Oct 2006, 19:34
I never really got in to Dodheimsgard. Their avant-garde elements have always seemed to forced for my tastes, I may try them again.
I kinda feel that way too. The songs on "International 666" are very piecemeal sounding with riffs being shoved up against each other without any apparent attempt at creating a cohesive whole. The music doesn't seem to purposefully try for a "schizo" aesthetic in the way of Mr. Bungle or Naked City, so I think that counts against its lack of flow even moreso. Still, I do enjoy a lot of the individual sections of the songs, but the songs as wholes leave a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Oct 2006, 22:23
Aren't most or all of Burzum's material owned by Nazi groups at this point as well?

It sounds like Jeph is downloading them all anyway, but still.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 05 Oct 2006, 23:21
Mayhem- De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Satyricon-Nemesis Divina
Marduk- Heaven Shall Burn When We Are Gathered
Triumphator- The Ultimate Sacrifice
Anaal Nathrakh- The Codex Necro
Absu-Tara
Khold- Phantom
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Patrick on 06 Oct 2006, 00:51
hay guyz if u liek dat stuff u shuld listen 2 metallica omg theyr awsum

/obligatory
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 06 Oct 2006, 06:03
Satyricon-Nemesis Divina

Forgot about that one. Amazing album.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Will on 06 Oct 2006, 08:26
My one black(ish) metal album that I possess in my collection is by this band Embraced...the album is called "Within."  Apparantly they're Swedish, and Amazon calls them death metal...but they have some creepily cool sounding keyboard work, and a buddy of mine told me they reminded him a bit of Cradle Of Filth, so I really don't know what to say they are.  I'll post a Yousendit or something if anyone wants to check them out...

I'm so extremely unhip to all that is black metal; if I got my sub-genre's wrong, please don't growl vile oath's and curses at me...please?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 06 Oct 2006, 10:44
IAbyssic Hate - "Depression", "Suicidal Emotions" and the "United By Heathen Blood" split with Det Hedenske Folk



I second that. "Suicidal Emotions" is fucking awesome. Its like the Australian equivalent of Burzum...sort of.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 06 Oct 2006, 10:54
Impaled Northern Moonforest (http://www.hemenpaylas.com/download/1757042/Impaled_Northern_Moonforest_-_Released_by_Souseiseki__aka_little_raven___www.tierramaldita.com_.zip.html)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/ImpaledNorthernMoonforest.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 06 Oct 2006, 11:02
Its like the Tin Lids of black metal.....
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: the man in the moon on 07 Oct 2006, 06:52
Drottnar's new stuff seems to be extremely good. And good production as well. I'm not expert on black metal (I prefer death) but it seems to be quite technical/progressive/avant-garde.

http://www.myspace.com/welterwerk

Chris
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Raven_1959 on 07 Oct 2006, 13:50
Anaal Nathrakh
YESYESYES.

Also, has anyone mentioned Akercocke?  Well, I have now.   :-P
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 07 Oct 2006, 14:47
Akercocke are more Death Metal then a striaght up BM act.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Trollstormur on 07 Oct 2006, 19:06
people need to IM me when one of these threads show up. I'm always fashionably late.

that said, here are my recommendations.

1349 -- pretty good brutal black metal. good recording quality
Behemoth -- how'd we forget behemoth?
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark -- Brilliant album, home to two of my very favorite black metal songs, Equimanthorn and Woman of Dark Desires
Windir - 1184 -- while technically 'viking' metal, Windir has a great Black sound with very interesting guitars. don't miss.
Calvarium -- only has a couple albums and are 'new comers' to the scene but they have a pretty good new black metal sound
Catamenia -- Classic MeloBlack.
Darkest Hate Warfront -- you might wanna hold off on downloading this one until you have a few dozen albums under your belt, but they're good nonetheless.
Covenant - Nexus Polaris -- This album got me into black metal. Feat. Mayhem's Hellhammer, this slightly atmospheric album evokes a feeling that you're staring up at the night sky


I'll finish this later.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ravenbomb on 07 Oct 2006, 22:27
Living Color
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: timehat on 08 Oct 2006, 10:29
lololol anal cunt fuck you
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 08 Oct 2006, 11:15
Anal Cunt should have been on post 3, not 29. C'mon people!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jose on 08 Oct 2006, 18:19
I recommend anaal nathrakh - codex necro because it's one of the main albums that got me into metal
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: timehat on 08 Oct 2006, 23:00
Oh, don't get me wrong, I wasn't suggesting Anal Cunt as a black metal band, but rather responding to the post above mine in reference to Living Color being a black metal band due to Anal Cunt's song which makes the same pun.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Trollstormur on 09 Oct 2006, 01:14
we're talking about black metal here, not anal cunt (not black metal).

I will ban every last one of you. (I can't actually ban anyone.)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 09 Oct 2006, 01:51
Abyssic Hate are a great band, I agree with whomever reccomended Sucidal Emotions, great album. Might help if you're familliar with Burzum before you check it out though.

I've been listening to a lot of Clandestine Blaze pretty good stuff. I think somebody else also reccomended Deathspell Omega, Marco's other band.

A lot depends what sought of stuff you're into really. Do you want trancey ambient stuff? Raw lofi stuff? melodic stuff? Such a diverse genre....

Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 09 Oct 2006, 08:08
If the more 'grim' and 'necro' is your style I also reccomend Krieg-'The Black House'
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Trollstormur on 09 Oct 2006, 12:01
I'll finish this later.

Graveworm -- Italian MeloBlack
Mörk Gryning -- good pure swedish black metal. good recording quality.
Astarte! Why has no one mentioned Astarte? Great black metal that is 100% female (they have a male session drummer, but i'm hoping they recruit a good female metal drummer i can worship.)
Svartsyn -- If you can stand the washed-out sound this band has, then Svartsyn is really one of the greatest black metal acts I can recommend. Excellent creepy sound. real grim.
Tsjuder -- formed in 1993, this norwegian black metal band has all the marks of good black metal. their album Kill for Satan is one of the most brutal audio-assaults my ears have undertaken.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 09 Oct 2006, 14:00
Quote from: Trollstormur
Astarte!

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/astarte.jpg)

What more do you need?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Oct 2006, 14:20
According to the November 2006 issue of Guitar Player, Children of Bodom are black metal!




lol wtf.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: La Creme on 09 Oct 2006, 20:30
lol wtf how cum
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 10 Oct 2006, 08:11
Dude...Guitar Player is a bunch of idiots
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Filk on 10 Oct 2006, 08:46
While on the topic of black metal and Behemoth, is their early stuff better or similar in quality to "Satanica"? I like that album a lot, but "Demigod" is crap, similar style, similar vocals, but just sounds cheesy.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 10 Oct 2006, 10:03
Behemoth are death metal. I have no idea why people think of them as black.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Filk on 10 Oct 2006, 10:07
I believe they started as black and slowly shifted to death.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 10 Oct 2006, 10:23
That's right, the first three albums were straight up BM.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 10 Oct 2006, 14:45
Somebody should really sit me down and indoctrinate me on the difference between styles of metal, because frankly, I don't get it.

And I liked 'Demigod'. It's brutal.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Trollstormur on 13 Oct 2006, 16:53
Somebody should really sit me down and indoctrinate me on the difference between styles of metal, because frankly, I don't get it.

* POWER METAL
The protagonist arrives riding a white unicorn, escapes from the dragon, saves the princess and makes love to her in an enchanted forest.

* THRASH METAL
The protagonist arrives, fights the dragon, saves the princess and fucks her.

* HEAVY METAL
The protagonist arrives on a Harley, kills the dragon, drinks a few
beers and fucks the princess.

* FOLK METAL
The protagonist arrives with some friends playing acordions, violins, flutes and many more weird instruments, the dragon falls asleep (because of all the dancing). Then they all leave........ without the princess.

* VIKING METAL
The protagonist arrives in a ship, kills the dragon with his mighty axe, skins the dragon and eats it, rapes the princess to death, steals her belongings and burns the castle before leaving.

* DEATH METAL
The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon, fucks the princess and kills her, then leaves.

* BLACK METAL
The protagonist arrives at midnight, kills the dragon and impales it in front of the castle. Then he sodomizes the princess, drinks her blood in a ritual before killing her. Then he impales the princess next to the dragon.

* GORE METAL
The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon and spreads his guts in front of the castle, fucks the princess and kills her. Then he fucks the dead body again, slashes her belly and eats her guts. Then he fucks the carcass for the third time, burns the corpse and fucks it for the last time.

* GRIND METAL
The protagonist arrives, screams something completely undecipherable for about 2 minutes and then leaves...

* DOOM METAL
The protagonist arrives, sees the size of the dragon and thinks he could never beat him, then he gets depressed and commits suicide. The dragon eats his body and the princess as dessert. Thats the end of the sad story.

* GOTHIC METAL
The princess in a velvet costume starts singing soprano. The protagonist completes the duet by adding the beast part, while the dragon plays the flute. Suddenly he swallows up the pipe and accidently scorches the beauty and the beast and suffocates to death. All their souls are damned in hell's eternity.

* PROGRESSIVE METAL
The protagonist arrives with a guitar and plays a solo of 26 minutes. The dragon kills himself out of boredom. The protagonist arrives to the princess' bedroom, plays another solo with all the techniques and tunes he learned in the last year of the conservatory. The princess escapes looking for the HEAVY METAL protagonist.

* INDUSTRIAL METAL
The protagonist arrives wearing greasy overcoat, makes obscene gestures towards dragon, and gets escorted out of fairy tale land by security guards.

* SPEED METAL
Suddenly there, short solo, dragon is confused, someone's screaming weird stuff, princess realizes she's been deflowered, dragon and princess are still looking for the one who did this.

* CHRISTIAN METAL
The protagonist rides in on his way home from church and sings a mushy power ballad to the dragon about how much Jesus loves him and that the dragon should turn to Him. The Dragon is immediately converted, and when the princess wants to thank the protagonist he replies, "Sorry, but I don't believe in having sex before marriage."

* GLAM METAL
The protagonist arrives, the dragon laughs at the guy's appearance and lets him enter. He steals the princess' make up and tries to paint the castle in a beautiful pink colour.

* BATTLE METAL
The protagonist arrives with a legion of a hundred brave footmen, war chariots and a dozen elite warriors and, as a master tactician, flanks the dragon in a bloody siege that lasts six hours. The princess gets bored.

* NU METAL
The protagonist arrives in a run down Honda Civic and attempts to fight the dragon but he burns to death when his moronic baggy clothes catch fire.

* EMO
[removed for my sake and tommy's.]

* GRUNGE
The protagonist doesn't get eaten by the dragon because he stinks too much from not washing his hair in months. The princess won't go near him either, and he ends up dying on the town hall steps with the other grungers due to the over consumption of white cider.

* POP-PUNK
The dragon can't eat the protagonist because he can't catch him because he keeps bouncing up and down. The princess won't fuck him either, because he likes ska.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: *Sights* on 13 Oct 2006, 18:23
I don't even like metal that much, but you MUST BE HONORED. FOREVER.

YES. JUST LIKE THAT.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 13 Oct 2006, 18:24
You forgot:

MAYHEM:
The protagonist arrives, everybody is already dead.

There's one about Opeth too.



Also, how could we forget ...And Oceans?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 13 Oct 2006, 19:22
Also, how could we forget ...And Oceans?

Comatose: The World Amnesia: Planet Dead?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 14 Oct 2006, 05:58
I was thinking more of The Symmetry of I - The Circle of O. Mainly because I have the limited edition 2CD digipack.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 14 Oct 2006, 06:04
* POWER METAL

[...]

* POP-PUNK
The dragon can't eat the protagonist because he can't catch him because he keeps bouncing up and down. The princess won't fuck him either, because he likes ska.

Probably the most informative post on this topic ever. Thanks. I'll keep this.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 Oct 2006, 14:48
I was thinking more of The Symmetry of I - The Circle of O. Mainly because I have the limited edition 2CD digipack.

I was trying to make an ...And Oceans related joke, implying that a Coma and resulting World Amnesia was the reason why we had forgotten to recommend them.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 15 Oct 2006, 20:56
I'm a neophyte in terms of metal, but I've become hopelessly addicted to a few bands (Opeth, Agalloch, Boris, and Mastodon to name a few) and I'm looking to expland my horizons a little bit.  I figure as I've got a vague idea of where to go from here with DM, BM, doom and sludge and it would be a good idea to ask for a recommendation for a place to start with gothic metal.  I haven't heard anything but I've read up on it a bit and I'm intrigued by the beauty/beast vocal duality.  I'll consider anything but Nightwish (which I'm not dissing but I'm not entirely sure I've got the proper frame of reference to get into the symphonic stuff yet).  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Oct 2006, 23:44
Well, if you're talking about the female vocal kind of stuff, then I guess you should be looking at Leave's Eyes, Epica, OLDER Lacuna Coil, anything with Arjen Lucassen's name on it (particularly Stream of Passion, but also Star One and Ayreon), Chalice.

Although maybe not what you're looking for, my strongest recommendation goes to KATATONIA. It's male vocals, but they're one of my favourite bands of recent times and they make incredible doomish gothic metal with fantastic atmospere. Their latest album "The Great Cold Distance" is an absolute cracker
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 16 Oct 2006, 01:04
Tristania. Sirenia. Trail Of Tears. Within Temptation.

...but Khar will sort you out.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 16 Oct 2006, 01:45
I will give you ten albums:

Crown of Autumn - The Treasure Arcane
Draconian - Where Lovers Mourn
The Gathering - Almost a Dance
Macbeth - Romantic Tragedy's Crescendo
Moonspell - Irreligious
Orkrist - Reginae Mysterium
Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear
Therion - Theli
Trail of Tears - Disclosure In Red
Tristania - Widows Weeds
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 16 Oct 2006, 08:04
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Soidanae on 16 Oct 2006, 13:38
Sirenia's At Sixes And Sevens is a masterpiece.
Don't bother with their other album, though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 16 Oct 2006, 14:00
In the woods - omnio

....just the best
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 17 Oct 2006, 02:21
I second the Therion and Chalice reccomendations.

For Therion I'd reccomend "Vovin", just for Martina Hornbacher's voice, it's amazing.

Chalice are a pretty good band as well, I've seen them live a bunch of times, never fail to put on a great show, traditionalish doom, with a nice violin and  flute and decent female vocals. Kind of sounds like early My Dying Bride with a female singer. I reccomend "Chronicles of Dysphoria".

Paradise Lost are another band you should definately check out.  Their album "Gothic" is really good though their middle albums "Draconian Times" and " One Seccond" are probably more what you're after.

If you wanna go from the more melo dm side rather then the Doom side, some of the later stuff from Sentenced is pretty decent I'd reccomend checking out "The Cold White Light"

Also just cause I feel obligated to chuck it in, Celtic Frost's "Into the Pandemonium" is pretty decent as well, kind of thrash meets Avante Garde meets Gothic rock. A lot of people bag this record but I think its pretty decent.

Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: TrueNeutral on 17 Oct 2006, 02:30
Yes, you should definately give Within Temptation a try. Their older work, anyway. They start so sound progressively more like Evanescence over their career.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 17 Oct 2006, 05:11
For Therion I'd reccomend "Vovin", just for Martina Hornbacher's voice, it's amazing.

The problem with Vovin is that, since it represents a sort of failed experiment for Therion, is that it doesn't really sound like any other of their releases, and its probably their weakest modern-era album. I'd get:

Theli
Lemuria
Secrets of the Runes
Deggial
Sirius B
A'Arab Zaraq Lucid Dreaming
Vovin

In that order for gothic/symphonic stuff.

Some other good recs generally, but I've noticed most people aren't really cleaving to his original post, which expressed an interest in 'beauty/beast vocal duality'. Most of mine have something along those lines, though there is a lot of great gothic metal (especially gothic doom) that doesn't have that.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: JSS on 17 Oct 2006, 05:13
old celtic frost has dabblings

my dying bride would be my first reccomendation

Bathory has its moments.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 17 Oct 2006, 05:20
Yeah, but as I was saying, Celtic Frost is avant-garde thrash, MDB are doom-death, and Bathory are viking.

I'm pretty sure he wants something that sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af2btth8qo).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: JSS on 17 Oct 2006, 05:23
Yeah, but as I was saying, Celtic Frost is avant-garde thrash, MDB are doom-death, and Bathory are viking.

I'm pretty sure he wants something that sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af2btth8qo).

ah i tend not to subscribe to the genre system unless ozzy tells me its legit,i was just trying to pick out some stuff based on what he said he enjoyed now.

i definitly stick with MDB being goth to some extent,i mean shit the name alone is probably the most goth thing ive ever heard.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 17 Oct 2006, 05:47
Oh, MDB are so goth they shit bats, but they're still a doom-death band.

Besides which, if he really knows where to go with doom, he doesn't need to be recommended MDB or Paradise Lost.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: JSS on 17 Oct 2006, 05:48
Oh, MDB are so goth they shit bats, but they're still a doom-death band.

Besides which, if he really knows where to go with doom, he doesn't need to be recommended MDB or Paradise Lost.

so were talking goth as in a musical genre not just a "vibe",thats more my leaning.Anyone who says theyre into goth and into metal and doesnt like MDB clearly has shitbats in their belfry.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 17 Oct 2006, 10:09
Oh, MDB are so goth they shit bats, but they're still a doom-death band.

Besides which, if he really knows where to go with doom, he doesn't need to be recommended MDB or Paradise Lost.

MDB AREN'T GOTH....they're just......ok, maybe youre right


probably they shit undead bats in caskets
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 17 Oct 2006, 11:15
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/KharBevNor/band19_medium.jpg)
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Post by: JSS on 17 Oct 2006, 11:43
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/KharBevNor/band19_medium.jpg)

:::applause::::
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 17 Oct 2006, 13:18
True story guys, MDB shits bats. DOOM BATS.


Also, JSS, please dont quote the post above yours, especially if it's a picture.

edit: that guy on the far left (I keep forgetting his name) looks like he's going to raid a drug cartel with a SWAT team. I allways chuckle at that whenever I see that picture.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: JSS on 17 Oct 2006, 14:19
god i really do suck at internetting...sorry  :-(
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 18 Oct 2006, 22:44
edit: that guy on the far left (I keep forgetting his name) looks like he's going to raid a drug cartel with a SWAT team. I allways chuckle at that whenever I see that picture.

Aaron Stainthorpe

I got their Sinamorta DVD a few weeks ago, he has a cool straight jacket outfit in that.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 18 Oct 2006, 23:21
I wish I could shit doom bats like My Dying Bride.  :| The new MDB record, "A Line Of Deathless Kings" is great btw.

Some other gothic metal records that I would suggest are:

Entwine - "Time Of Despair"
Katatonia - "Discouraged Ones" & "Last Fair Deal Gone Down"
Green Carnation - "Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness"
Sentenced - "Amok" & "Down"
Klimt 1918 - "Undressed Memento"
Paradise Lost - "One Second" & "Host"
Fields Of The Nephilim - "Zoon" & "Mourning Sun"

That MDB pic made my night. haha
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 18 Oct 2006, 23:47
Green Carnation - "Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness"


Green Carnation is one of my favorite bands at the moment :)  "Journey to the End of Night" would probably be easier to get into then Light of Day.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 18 Oct 2006, 23:49
Green Carnation - "Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness"


Green Carnation is one of my favorite bands at the moment :)  "Journey to the End of Night" would probably be easier to get into then Light of Day.

You're probably right, but the epic nature of "LODDOD" is just amazing. :D There are few records to throw on and then just completely lose yourself within!
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Post by: Scytale on 18 Oct 2006, 23:57
Yeah I get what you're saying there. They play about 30 minutes of it on the "Alive and Well" dvd.  I find myself staring transfixed at the tv screen till the end off it.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 19 Oct 2006, 00:35
[...] he has a cool straight jacket outfit[...]

Seriously, does such a thing exist? A cool ... straight jacket?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 00:39
[...] he has a cool straight jacket outfit[...]

Seriously, does such a thing exist? A cool ... straight jacket?

I'm sure there are cool straight jackets. Those ones that M?tley Cr?e wore for the "Dr. Feelgood" promo photo sessions are pretty neat.

Dark flute hmm?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 04:52
I would probably recommend the following since these are some of my faves at the moment:

Absu - "Tara"
Abigor - (pretty much anything in their discography)
Anael - "On Wings Of Mercury"
Black Witchery - "Desecration Of The Holy Kingdom" & "Upheaval Of Satanic Might"
Blacklodge - "Solarkult" (This record is very industrial-tinged though...but very good)
Carpathian Forest - "Black Shining Leather"
Darkspace - "Darkspace I" and "Darkspace II"
Darkthrone - (their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th releases as well as "Panzerfaust")
Drudkh - (anything and everything this band has released is brilliant.)
Enslaved - (see above)
Frostmoon Eclipse - "Death Is Coming" (Few BM bands implement acoustic guitars as well as these guys....)
Gjallarhorn - "Nordheim"
Hellveto - "Medieval Scream"
Isvind - "Dark Water Stir"
Jotunspor - "Gliepnirs Smeder"
Kriegsmaschine - "Altered States Of Divinity"
Lja - "Til Avsky For Livet"
Morrigan - (everything they've released)
Mysticum - "The Lost Masters Of the Universe"
Negura Bunget - (everything they've released)
Paragon Impure - To Gaius (For Delivery Of Agrippina)
Primordial - (Immediately get everything this band has released.)
Satyricon - "Now, Diabolical"
Thunderbolt - "The Burning Dead Of Deciet"
Tsjuder - "Desert Northern Hell"
Veles - "The Black Ravens Flew Again"
Velonnic Sin - "Ritual"
Vorkreist - "Sabbathical Flesh Possession"
Wolves In The Throne Room - "Diadem Of 12 Stars"
Wyrd - "Vargtimmen 1" & "Vargtimmen 2"

Enjoy. :)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 19 Oct 2006, 04:56
gothic metal

Paradise Lost - "One Second" & "Host"

What? Those are not doom albums, especially not by PL. Also, as a fan, I try to forget the fact that PL actually realesed Host.


Also MDB are goth fashion kings.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 05:00
gothic metal

Paradise Lost - "One Second" & "Host"

What? Those are not doom albums, especially not by PL. Also, as a fan, I try to forget the fact that PL actually realesed Host.


Also MDB are goth fashion kings.

I never said that they were doom, but they are very much within the 'gothic' realm of heavy metal. I personally loved "Host" as well, but then again I'm also a big Depeche Mode fan. :) I think that "Host", while a massive departure from their prior sound obviously (but you could see it coming on "One Second") is one of their best records they ever released and certainly their most daring. I wish they had stayed on that route actually since their current output is so predictable.

Oh well.  :-D And if MDB are goth fashion kings or queens they are doing a fine job of releasing interesting music in the meantime. ;)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 19 Oct 2006, 05:04
I was trying to make an ...And Oceans related joke, implying that a Coma and resulting World Amnesia was the reason why we had forgotten to recommend them.

I have lost my last metal credit.

Also, Felix, Satyricon's Nemesis Divina would fit better on that list.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 19 Oct 2006, 05:06
I really dont find Host or One Second gothic, not at all. Icon and Darconian Times are Pl's goth albums, and probably Symbol of Life and Paradise Lost too.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 19 Oct 2006, 05:52

Anael
Drudkh
Morrigan

These three bands are fucking awesome, especially Drudkh, "Autumn Auruoa" is a damn masterpeice.

Also good to see some love for "Panzerfaust" (my second fav DT album behind UAFM).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 19 Oct 2006, 05:53
Also, Felix, Satyricon's Nemesis Divina would fit better on that list.

indeed. big ups for tsjuder. very, very, very big downs for now diabolical.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 13:09
I was trying to make an ...And Oceans related joke, implying that a Coma and resulting World Amnesia was the reason why we had forgotten to recommend them.

I have lost my last metal credit.

Also, Felix, Satyricon's Nemesis Divina would fit better on that list.

"Nemesis Divina" is far too obvious. ;)

And since the BM elitists have been shitting all over their new record, I figured I'd plug it since I think it's quite good.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 13:10

Anael
Drudkh
Morrigan

These three bands are fucking awesome, especially Drudkh, "Autumn Auruoa" is a damn masterpeice.

Also good to see some love for "Panzerfaust" (my second fav DT album behind UAFM).

Yeah, "Panzerfaust" is underrated. It kills.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 13:14
I really dont find Host or One Second gothic, not at all. Icon and Darconian Times are Pl's goth albums, and probably Symbol of Life and Paradise Lost too.

I suppose I'm totally different. I find "Icon" and "Draconian Times" much more doom, (since PL's early material basically  is doom, up through "Symbol Of Life", "Icon", and then they started to go more commercial with "Draconian Times" but still remaining firmly 'doomish'...) and although their are gothic nuances throughout those records, those nuances aren't nearly as pronounced as those found on their later releases when the vocals became even less distorted, the music became more fluid, less heavy, and they began to play around electronic sounds.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 19 Oct 2006, 14:35
After Gothic and Shades of God came out, critics famed PL for "inventing goth metal", although that is some what true they're only one of the bands that started the goth metal wave. All of PL's albums are straight up doom, except for their electronica expiriments, which can be described as "goth" in texture and sound, but I find them just electronica expiriments, nothing more. Especially not goth albums. They got back to their doom roots with SOL and Paradise Lost, their last album (which is actually pretty good).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 19 Oct 2006, 14:43
After Gothic and Shades of God came out, critics famed PL for "inventing goth metal", although that is some what true they're only one of the bands that started the goth metal wave. All of PL's albums are straight up doom, except for their electronica expiriments, which can be described as "goth" in texture and sound, but I find them just electronica expiriments, nothing more. Especially not goth albums. They got back to their doom roots with SOL and Paradise Lost, their last album (which is actually pretty good).

I wouldn't classify them purely as 'goth' records either (obviously they sound nothing like Bauhaus, Sisters Of Mercy, or Joy Division..hehe) but surely I would say that in Paradise Lost's case, "One Second", "Host", "Believe In Nothing", "Symbol Of Life", and even thier new record are much more 'gothic' tinged and have much more in common with 'gothic metal' than their earlier "doom" releases. I don't think they've gone back to their roots at all with their last two records either since to me, their roots lie in the ironically titled "Gothic" and "Paradise Lost" records and neither of their last two releases sound even remotely like tha, and I don't think they have recorded a 'doom' record since "Icon" at the very least.

Regardless, I think if one is looking to get into 'gothic metal', "One Second" and "Host" are good suggestions, especially if they are new to the sub-genre. I'd also recommend "Draconian Times" as well since it is, in many ways, the bridge record between their prior doom roots and their new more mainstream sounding gothic/dark metal sound they have today.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 19 Oct 2006, 15:00
If you're into gothic vocals, Mushroomhead would probably be up there.
Same with Nightwish... and The 69 Eyes.  (Possibly, either that or I just really like their name.)
Erm.. and having a mind blank at the moment, but you've got yourself many suggestions already posted.  :-P
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: JSS on 20 Oct 2006, 00:49
honestly i base "gothic" more on vocals/lyrics/vibe and overall aesthetic than an actual musical sound,which is why i find alot of "doom" or "sludge" bands pretty damned goth.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 20 Oct 2006, 05:18
Regardless, I think if one is looking to get into 'gothic metal', "One Second" and "Host" are good suggestions, especially if they are new to the sub-genre. I'd also recommend "Draconian Times" as well since it is, in many ways, the bridge record between their prior doom roots and their new more mainstream sounding gothic/dark metal sound they have today.

Yeah, youre pretty much right. I'm just a doom metal fanboy.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 20 Oct 2006, 14:54
Regardless, I think if one is looking to get into 'gothic metal', "One Second" and "Host" are good suggestions, especially if they are new to the sub-genre. I'd also recommend "Draconian Times" as well since it is, in many ways, the bridge record between their prior doom roots and their new more mainstream sounding gothic/dark metal sound they have today.

Yeah, youre pretty much right. I'm just a doom metal fanboy.

I <3 doom as well. All kinds.

The new Sahg album "I" being my fave of the year probably. ;)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 20 Oct 2006, 23:42
I'm not the hugest doom fan but I'm looking to get into it a bit more. So reccomend me some stuff. I don't care what sub genre it is wether its death/doom funeral doom or stoner or whatever.

My favorite doom albums look something like this:

Candlemass-  Nightfall
Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
Anathema - Crestfallen
Paramaecium - Exhumed of the Earth
Electric Wizard - We Live
Paradise Lost - Gothic
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose The Swans
Cirith Ungol - King of the Dead
Witchfinder General - Friends of Hell

I don't know if the last two strictly count but they are damn fine albums anyway.

Thanks
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 20 Oct 2006, 23:46
Boris dude.  Boris.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 21 Oct 2006, 00:07
Boris dude.  Boris.

Any ideas where to start, there discography is freaking huge and judging by the reviews on MA there ablums look to be pretty hit and miss.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 00:39
I love doom. These are some killer doom records that I spin frequently:

AsvA - "Futurist's Against the Ocean"
Boris - "Amplifier Worship"
Burning Saviours - "Burning Saviours" & "Hundus"
Candlemass - "Ancient Dreams"
Cathedral - "The Ethereal Mirror" & "The VIIth Coming"
Dolorian - "When All The Laughter Has Gone"
Evoken - "Antithesis Of Light" & "Embrace the Emptiness"
Grand Magus - "Wolf's Return"
Great Coven - "Viaticum"
Grief - "Dismal" & "Come To Grief"
Krux - "Krux" & "Krux II"
Lair Of the Minotaur - "Carnage" & "The Ultimate Destroyer"
Lazarus Blackstar - "Revelations"
L'Impero Delle Ombre - "L'Impero Delle Ombre"
Minotauri - "Minotauri"
Monolithe - "Monolithe I" & "Monolithe II"
Pagan Altar - "Lords Of Hypocrisy" & "Volume I"
Paul Chain - (every single record he's ever released!!!)
Pentagram - "Pentagram"
Reverend Bizarre - "II Crush the Insects" & "Harbinger Of Metal EP"
Sahg - "I"
Saint Vitus - "Hallow's Victim" & "Saint Vitus"
Scald - "Will Of the Gods..."
Siena Root - "A New Day Dawning" & "Kaleidoscope"
Sleep - "Dopesmoker" & "Holy Mountain"
Solstice (UK) - "New Dark Age"
Sorcery - "Sinister Soldiers"
The Hidden Hand - "Mother Teacher Destroyer" & "Devoid Of Color"
Thee Plague Of Gentlemen - "Primula Pestis"
Trouble - "Trouble" & "Run To the Light"
Ufomammut - "Godlike Snake", "Snailking", "Lucifer Songs"
Umbra Nihil - "Gnoia"
Unearthly Trance - "The Trident" & "In the Red"
Void Of Silence - "Human Antithesis"
Wall Of Sleep - "Sun Faced Apostles"
Witchcraft - "Firewood"
YOB - "The Unreal Never Lived" & "The Illusion Of Motion"
Zess - "Et In Arcadia Ego"

That should keep you busy.  :wink:
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 21 Oct 2006, 01:12

all albums of:

Mourning Beloveth
Shape of Despair
Thergothon
JESU

and everything with steven o'malley
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 02:14

all albums of:

Mourning Beloveth
Shape of Despair
Thergothon
JESU

and everything with steven o'malley

I second the Steven O'Malley thing, especially "Crippled Lucifer" by the legendary Burning Witch. Those other bands kick ass as well. :)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 21 Oct 2006, 03:31
All of the above and (some more fringey gothic and stoner stuff here perhaps):

The 3rd and the Mortal - Tears Laid In Earth
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops
Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics
Amorphis - Tales From the Thousand Lakes
Bitterdusk - Spirits
Cemetary of Scream - Melancholy
Doomvs - Aeternum Vale
The Eternal - The Sombre Light Of Isolation
All of Forever Autumns demos ('Forever Autumn', 'I Bury My Face in My Hands', 'Archaic')
Lapsus Dei - Beyond the Truth
Orange Goblin - The Big Black and Frequencies From Planet Ten (Pretty rock'n'rolling stuff, really, but should be right up the alley of a Cathedral fan, and of anyone who likes Black Sabbath, which should be fucking everybody, in my book)

A lot of these aren't 'classics' or even really that notable per se (except the Acid Bath and Amorphis albums, which are a required component of any self-respecting metalheads collections), but Felix's list is pretty fucking comprehensive.

I'll also make a slightly more controversial move and suggest 'Bloody Kisses' and 'October Rust' by Type O Negative. Yes, they are more 'goth metal' (one of the few bands I can think of that should actually be called that sans an 'ic') than doom, and they are campy as all hell, but there's some noticeable doom metal sensibilities and some good atmosphere in those albums. They also work quite well as a send-up of gothic/doom misery. Who can forget the immortal chorus of 'Black #1':

"Yeah you wanna go out, 'cos it's raining and blowing,
But you can't go out 'cos your roots are showing...
Dye 'em BLACK!
Dye 'em BLACK!
BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK NUMBER ONE
SHE DYES 'EM BLACK BLACK BLACK NUMBER ONE, OH YEAH!"


Also, anyone interested in being fucking depressed and fucking heavy at the same time should probably check out some depressive black metal. Abyssic Hate, Xasthur and Nortt spring to mind as the 'big names' as it were.

And of course Burzum, but I sincerely hope you already listen to Burzum.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 04:07

Cemetary of Scream - Melancholy


I love this record. I often wondered if anyone at all listened to this band.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: negative creep on 21 Oct 2006, 06:02
i reccomend: "the call of the wretched sea" by ahab. it's a concept album based on "moby dick", goddamnit! (i know, it's been done before, but really, this rocks.)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 21 Oct 2006, 06:07
Paradise Lost - Shades of God
Paradise Lost - Icon
Katatonia - Dance of December Souls
Katatonia - Brave Murder Day
November's Doom - The Knowing
November's Doom - The Pale Haunt Departure
Anathema - The Silent Enigma

And pretty much everything mentioned in this thread

Also, Boris and Sleep are a lot more stoner then doom.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 21 Oct 2006, 06:19

I'll also make a slightly more controversial move and suggest 'Bloody Kisses' and 'October Rust' by Type O Negative. Yes, they are more 'goth metal' (one of the few bands I can think of that should actually be called that sans an 'ic') than doom, and they are campy as all hell, but there's some noticeable doom metal sensibilities and some good atmosphere in those albums. They also work quite well as a send-up of gothic/doom misery. Who can forget the immortal chorus of 'Black #1':

Also, anyone interested in being fucking depressed and fucking heavy at the same time should probably check out some depressive black metal. Abyssic Hate, Xasthur and Nortt spring to mind as the 'big names' as it were.


Yeah Abyssic Hate kick arse, he's stuff is damn hard to track down (In Australia anyway). I've been trying to find the "United by Heathen Blood" split for a while.

I've got a couple of Nortt songs on mp3 I downloaded late last year, not bad what I've heard (Gudsforladt album) was really good.

I actually used to own a Type O Negative album (Can't remeber which one but it had "Everyone I love is Dead on it". Left it in a friends car a few years ago and never saw it again :(.

Thanks for all the doom suggestions, keep them comming I'm planning to go on a mass mail order spree once my bank balance gets a bit more respectable.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Oct 2006, 06:55
Sunn O))) if you like slower stuff. Or Earth.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 21 Oct 2006, 07:19
I've got a couple of Nortt songs on mp3 I downloaded late last year, not bad what I've heard (Gudsforladt album) was really good.

If you want a nice little taster of Xasthur, they have a split out which is rather fabulous. I also recommend Xasthurs 'Funeral of Being' album as a cornerstone of the whole thing.

United by Heathen Blood is excellent.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 21 Oct 2006, 09:30
Xasthur's worth checking out then?  I've been thinking about checking out some of Malefic's work but never got around to it.  I figure since you suggested it in this thread it's more of a BM/doom hybrid than straight-up BM.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 21 Oct 2006, 10:13
I've always considered Acid Bath sludge rather than doom, but they are amazing.

Seriously Dax, what the fuck are you doing? Go back to taking all kinds of drugs and making amazing metal kthx.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Borondir on 21 Oct 2006, 15:21
A few more to add to the list.

Trouble-Everything. (Doom pioneers, just as essential as Candlemass, but somehow forgotten by a lot of doom fans)
Skepticism-Lead and Aether (best funeral doom ever)
Skepticism-Farmakon
Winter- Eternal Frost (One of the first death-doom bands)
Morgion-Cloaked by Ages, Crowned in Earth (American folksy death-doom)
Khanate-another O'Malley band
Esoteric-Subconscious Dissolution into the Continuum
Solitude Aeternus-Anything...trad doom, but still great
Virgin Black-Elegant...and Dying (very original gothic doom with male operatic vocals, piano, and cello)

And I basically second everything already mentioned. Even Type 0. They aren't necessarily doom, but they are very doomy, and as Khar pointed out, very amusing.
And I've always thought of Nortt as funeral doom with a black metal image. I dunno.

On a related note, while not actually doom, there are some great atmospheric sludge/post-metal bands out there like Pelican, Cult of Luna, and Callisto that have a definite doom influence.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 21 Oct 2006, 15:26
Cult of Luna are for yes. They've gone a bit post-rock on their newer albums but they're still great.

I love this thread.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 15:37
Xasthur's worth checking out then?  I've been thinking about checking out some of Malefic's work but never got around to it.  I figure since you suggested it in this thread it's more of a BM/doom hybrid than straight-up BM.

Xasthur is definitely worth checking out and it's a good suggestion for certain. Great band, very doomish in a BM way.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 15:38
A few more to add to the list.
Skepticism-Lead and Aether (best funeral doom ever)
Skepticism-Farmakon
Winter- Eternal Frost (One of the first death-doom bands)
Khanate-another O'Malley band
Esoteric-Subconscious Dissolution into the Continuum

These are killer suggestions!! Skepticism is completely essential. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuneral Doom.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Borondir on 21 Oct 2006, 20:17
I see now you already suggested Trouble.  Thumbs up! Not like they can't be suggested more than once, as good as they are. 
But seriously, Felix, your list was so exhaustive it was hard to think of other essentials that weren't already there.

I love this thread too!!!!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 21 Oct 2006, 20:26
'tis a fine thread.

Also, on the dep BM front, don't know why I didn't mention this before, but 'Velvet Cacoon - Genevieve' is a must.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 20:48
Also, Boris and Sleep are a lot more stoner then doom.

Black Sabbath is pretty 'stoner', so is Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Obsessed, Weedeater, Eyehategod, Goatsnake, Roachpowder, Obiat, etc. but they are all, including Boris and Sleep close enough to doom to be constituted as so I'd reckon.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 21 Oct 2006, 22:16
'tis a fine thread.

Also, on the dep BM front, don't know why I didn't mention this before, but 'Velvet Cacoon - Genevieve' is a must.

Thats not the same Velvet cacoon who were the Eco Terrorists with the "Disselharp" is it :) I rememember they caused quite the stir a few years ago. I always thought they were more ambient then doom...
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 21 Oct 2006, 22:23
'tis a fine thread.

Also, on the dep BM front, don't know why I didn't mention this before, but 'Velvet Cacoon - Genevieve' is a must.

Thats not the same Velvet cacoon who were the Eco Terrorists with the "Disselharp" is it :) I rememember they caused quite the stir a few years ago. I always thought they were more ambient then doom...


The same ones. :P They have released raw BM records, some which have a doomish flavor to them, folkish stuff, and ambient stuff as well.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 22 Oct 2006, 02:15
Black Sabbath is pretty 'stoner', so is Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Obsessed, Weedeater, Eyehategod, Goatsnake, Roachpowder, Obiat, etc. but they are all, including Boris and Sleep close enough to doom to be constituted as so I'd reckon.

Yeah, but they're not "pure doom" like PL early albums or MDB, they have a lot more sludge and drone influences. Plus, Sleep sings about weed insted of wanting to die (and Black Sabbath sings about both).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 22 Oct 2006, 02:41
Early PL and MDB play death / doom, basically influenced by Winter. Not "pure" (I'm asusme you mean traditional) doom. Sabbath, Pentagram and early Cathedral are probably the best eaxamples of traditional doom I can think off.





Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 22 Oct 2006, 03:40
Black Sabbath is pretty 'stoner', so is Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Obsessed, Weedeater, Eyehategod, Goatsnake, Roachpowder, Obiat, etc. but they are all, including Boris and Sleep close enough to doom to be constituted as so I'd reckon.

Yeah, but they're not "pure doom" like PL early albums or MDB, they have a lot more sludge and drone influences. Plus, Sleep sings about weed insted of wanting to die (and Black Sabbath sings about both).

PL and MDB aren't 'pure doom' either. :D haha..if you speak to doom enthusiasts many if not most would consider bands that emulate Black Sabbath to be "pure doom" and anything else, like PL, MDB, or as you suggested earlier Katatonia to be off-shoots of the 'doom genre'. And it really doesn't matter what you sing about lyrically, there are plenty of doom bands that sing about all sorts of things, whether it's weed, witches, space, medieval tyrants, truckers, etc. and not about "wanting to die" and they are still firmly within the doom genre. Doom is like the genre that it is part of - 'metal' - in that there are even sub-genres to the doom genre itself. Sludge, funeral doom, drone and stoner rock are often considered sub-genres of doom because they are so closely related to "pure doom".
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 22 Oct 2006, 03:41
Early PL and MDB play death / doom, basically influenced by Winter. Not "pure" (I'm asusme you mean traditional) doom. Sabbath, Pentagram and early Cathedral are probably the best eaxamples of traditional doom I can think off.

Agreed.

That reminds me, I need to listen to "Garden Of Unearthly Delights" again.  :-D
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 22 Oct 2006, 03:50
I have no idea what prompted Lee Dorion to switch from Napalm Death to Cathedral, but I'm glad he did...

Is you're copy of "Garden of Unearthly Delights" the scratch and sniff version?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Joey JoJo on 22 Oct 2006, 06:16
Sunn O))) & Boris - Altar

Do it, do it now.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 22 Oct 2006, 06:40
PL and MDB aren't 'pure doom' either. :D haha..if you speak to doom enthusiasts many if not most would consider bands that emulate Black Sabbath to be "pure doom" and anything else, like PL, MDB, or as you suggested earlier Katatonia to be off-shoots of the 'doom genre'. And it really doesn't matter what you sing about lyrically, there are plenty of doom bands that sing about all sorts of things, whether it's weed, witches, space, medieval tyrants, truckers, etc. and not about "wanting to die" and they are still firmly within the doom genre. Doom is like the genre that it is part of - 'metal' - in that there are even sub-genres to the doom genre itself. Sludge, funeral doom, drone and stoner rock are often considered sub-genres of doom because they are so closely related to "pure doom".
Early PL and MDB play death / doom, basically influenced by Winter. Not "pure" (I'm asusme you mean traditional) doom. Sabbath, Pentagram and early Cathedral are probably the best eaxamples of traditional doom I can think off.

You both are right, what I ment to say is that bands like Sleep, Boris, Electric Wizard, Cult of Luna and such are usually said to be stoner/sludge, although it's obvious that they have a lot of doom influences. Stoner and doom overlap in a lot of ways and it's kind of stupid to try and seperate the two, I'm sorry I brought it up.

The whole "songs about wanting to die" thing is a private joke of mine and a few friends.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 22 Oct 2006, 08:00
Early PL and MDB play death / doom, basically influenced by Winter.

Not so much PL, but when I think of major influences for MDB, I can't help but come back to the fact that, in large part, MDB are a metal version of Swans. 'Transcending (Into the Exquisite)' pretty much IS a Swans track...coming off that point, any open minded doomster should probably really enjoy Swans.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Cartilage Head on 22 Oct 2006, 08:52
 There is a band I've heard a little bit of called Bongzilla that is a pretty good doom/stoner metal band.

 Also, I'm not sure if Theatre Of Tragedy exactly falls into this category, and from a few recent songs I've heard I think they might possibly suck now..but their older stuff is DEFINITELY worth checking out.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: shatteredshards on 23 Oct 2006, 11:43
I can enjoy a few songs off of Karmacode, but really, LC's older stuff is much better (I particularly like Unleashed Memories). The new stuff is almost like a "where the heck did this come from?!" smacking you upside the head.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Trollstormur on 23 Oct 2006, 12:25
The new Sahg album "I" being my fave of the year probably. ;)

you say that like sahg had albums before I.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 23 Oct 2006, 12:55
The new Sahg album "I" being my fave of the year probably. ;)

you say that like sahg had albums before I.

Well whatever, their debut. You have my heartfelt apologies for the confusion.  :roll:
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Trollstormur on 24 Oct 2006, 09:25
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sademie/lolblackmetal.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 24 Oct 2006, 11:45
OMFGROFLWTFFTWOMFG that's so funny!

 :roll:
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 24 Oct 2006, 12:43
Is that Daken? The 1,000 swords cover is better I think.

(http://www.no-colours-records.de/bilder/releases/thousandsword_klein.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: GamerMunkie on 26 Oct 2006, 05:30
Hey guys, I was just wondering if anybody knew of any other music around like Belle and Sebastian's "Night Walk".

It's really good music when I want to have an afternoon nap or for when I'm studying, and it just kinda makes me sit back and go "Wow...Everything is right with the world".

I have alot of George Winston, however you can't just listen to the same piano pieces all of the time!

So, any ideas?

(Oh, another good one is "Sunshine And Clouds And Everything Proud" By CYHSY)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 26 Oct 2006, 05:41
Slint - Spiderland
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 26 Oct 2006, 05:45
I would say Spiderland by Slint.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Oct 2006, 05:52
(http://movies.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_2/international/images/spider-man.jpg)

- (http://www.splashme.ca/images/drawing/man.jpg)

+ (http://www.openbiblefellowship.org/Land%20from%20top.jpg)
Title: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 26 Oct 2006, 08:43
I've been listening to waaaayyyy too much drone and metal recently and I want something more in the vein of new indie pop right now.  I'm familiar with Broken Social Scene, Stars, the Cardigans and a few others.  I'd like something with pop-minded musical arrangemens but nothing obnoxiously twee or lyrically saccharine.  Recommend away and I'll put BitTorrent to work!  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Oct 2006, 08:44
Islands, Sloan, Wilco, Hot Hot Heat's first record. There.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: CamusCanDo on 26 Oct 2006, 09:00
Animal Collective
Architecture in Helsinki
Belle & Sebastian
Built to Spill
Camera Obscura
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Death Cab For Cutie
Islands
Kings of Convenience
My Latest Novel
The Decemberists
The Most Serene Republic
The New Pornographers
The Postal Service
The Shins
The Unicorns
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Gryff on 26 Oct 2006, 09:14
Slint - Spiderland
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: AladdinSane on 26 Oct 2006, 09:43
Ozma
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Joseph on 26 Oct 2006, 09:47
Anal Cunt
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Joseph on 26 Oct 2006, 09:53
Ok, serious time.

I don't know if I'd include a lot of what Camus put in as indie pop, definately not Animal Collective anyway.  But here's my list:

A.C. Newman
The New Pornographers
The Shins
The Unicorns
Architecture in Helsinki
Belle & Sebastian
All Girl Summer Fun Band
The Boy Least Likely To
Fiona Apple
Feist
I'm From Barcellona
Islands
The Pippettes
The Polyphonic Spree
Sloan
The Softies
Stars
Zumpano
Le Tigre
Liz Phair (Exile In Guyville)
The Notwist
The Flaming Lips

Most of those are pretty blatantly pop. though you mentioned Broken Social Scene, so you may want more rock oriented stuff
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Storm Rider on 26 Oct 2006, 10:10
Man, if Belle & Sebastian and Architecture in Helsinki don't qualify as twee now, the new stuff must shit rainbows.

But uh, given the choice... I'd just keep listening to metal.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 26 Oct 2006, 10:27
I just downloaded more albums by My Dying Bride, Sunn O))), Xasthur, Opeth, Arch Enemy, Immortal, Agalloch, Boris and Mastodon  :evil:.

I like metal a lot, but I really do need a new direction for a little while  :angel:.  I recently rediscovered the Shins, specifically their debut Oh, Inverted World.  I've also been digging the Flaming Lips in general this week.

Has anyone heard Asobi Seksu's latest record btw?  It's amazing.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: jcknbl on 26 Oct 2006, 11:13
I'll recomend some older stuff:
My Bloody Valentine- circa 1987, Before they perfected and defined an entire genre of music MBV were a pretty good but run-of-the-mill indie pop band. Check out the Strawberry Wine EP

Saint Etienne (indie-pop dance I suppose)

Heavenly (Khar always comments about this band. Apparently there is another Heavenly. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to tell the difference though)

The Field Mice
The Pastels
Talulah Gosh

All these guys are definitely poppier than BSS. Possibly less edgy than the Cardigans. Still enjoyable though and in no matter challenging.

I presume you've heard of and listened to Yo La Tengo and Neutral Milk Hotel? If you haven't you should check out those two bands before downloading anything else mentioned on this thread.

And that Asobi Seksu album is pretty darn good. As it happens, I was indie-pop obsessed about a year ago and now that new Agalloch album has me listening to metal for the first time in a long while.

Edit: I totally forgot. It isn't indie. Its also from the 70's. The Best of Italo Disco vol. II from the label XYZ. Everyone should download this. Trust me.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Felix_ on 26 Oct 2006, 11:16


Heavenly (Khar always comments about this band. Apparently there is another Heavenly. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to tell the difference though)


Yes, beware of the other power metal Heavenly. That's bad stuff right thar.

Good call @ the My Bloody Valentine and Neutral Milk Hotel stuff.  :-)
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: KharBevNor on 26 Oct 2006, 11:30
Zombina and the Skeletones.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Thrillho on 26 Oct 2006, 20:06
Barenaked Ladies - Barenaked Ladies Are Me

Wonderful indie-pop records.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 26 Oct 2006, 21:39
Thanks guys.  Yo La Tengo are kind of legendary and someone I'm close to recommended Painful.  I'll be checking that out as well as all of the other suggested bands.  Not too sure Zombina and the Skeletones are exactly what I'm looking for but one of my friends loves them to death so I'll get a record from her  :-P.

And I got the obligatory Anal Cunt!  The thread is officially valid!

Is Spiderland officially the new "recommend it in every thread" record?  :?
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: nickyandthefuture on 26 Oct 2006, 22:00
jcknbl pointed out some good Sarah records stuff (Heavenly, Field Mice, and so on), and I'll add to that.? Definitely listen to some Heavenly, though, they are fantastic.? He also mentioned Talulah Gosh, which was an earlier band containing a lot of the people from Heavenly, also centered around the singer Amelia Fletcher.? Heavenly broke up when the drummer, Matt Fletcher, Amelia's brother, committed suicide.? After a while, they more-or-less reformed as Marine Research.? Sounds from the Gulf Stream by MR is probably one of my favorite records of all time.? After Marine Research broke up, Amelia Fletcher started a band called Tender Trap, which is still together.

Other Sarah bands worth listening to are: St. Christopher, Brighter and Blueboy (listed in ascending order of litheness).? The Orchids are another famous Sarah band, but I always thought they were a little boring.

For North American stuff, check out Cub!? Much more of a punk influence than something like the Field Mice (although they go well with Heavenly).? Along those lines, also check out Tiger Trap and Gaze.

Then there was Kindercore records.? Kindercore isn't around anymore because its founder were comically bad at running a business, but they managed to put out a lot of fantastic records from:? Masters of the Hemisphere, Dressy Bessy, Of Montreal, and so on.

For more recent stuff, I'd recommend the following:
The Lucksmiths
Math and Physics Club
The Snow Fairies
Colin Clary
Locas in Love
Paula Kelley
Bearsuit
Darren Hanlon
The Gazetteers

Okay I'll shut up now.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 26 Oct 2006, 22:06
I love BM but I can't stand NSers and murderers, so that kind of cuts a couple vital bands out of what I'm willing to listen to, haha.  This is going to come off as totally sacreligious, because it is, but these days I prefer North American BM because of its cleaner production and almost-assured apolitical stance. 

While we're at it, could somebody recommend me some early, seminal BM not steeped in Nazi ideology?  I've got Bathory, Immortal and Emperor (although Faust did knife a gay man for hitting on him, so I'm on the fence). I'm not touching Mayhem or anything Euronymous-influenced with a 10-foot pole, same goes for Graveland or anything on Deathlike Silence Records (with the possible exception of Burzum).  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Misereatur on 26 Oct 2006, 22:44
Slint - Spiderland

i would recommend 'spiderland' by the band slint.

Thirded.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 26 Oct 2006, 23:05
I love BM but I can't stand NSers and murderers, so that kind of cuts a couple vital bands out of what I'm willing to listen to, haha.  This is going to come off as totally sacreligious, because it is, but these days I prefer North American BM because of its cleaner production and almost-assured apolitical stance. 

While we're at it, could somebody recommend me some early, seminal BM not steeped in Nazi ideology?  I've got Bathory, Immortal and Emperor (although Faust did knife a gay man for hitting on him, so I'm on the fence). I'm not touching Mayhem or anything Euronymous-influenced with a 10-foot pole, same goes for Graveland or anything on Deathlike Silence Records (with the possible exception of Burzum).  Thanks in advance.

If you'll make exceptions for Burzum, you might as well make exceptions for any band that has an ideology that you don't necessarily agree with or obviously don't subscribe to. That said, it's ashame if you're crossing NS bands off your list IMO due to their radical and usually ridiculous viewpoints. There are dozens of excellent bands within that sub-genre that deserve to be heard for musical reasons alone. I can seperate myself from their message and just listen to the music, and it's not like I'm supporting them by going out and buying their entire discography in most cases or getting their logo tattooed on my back.

That said, you should check out some of these bands:

Barathrum
Bifrost
Desaster
Bethlehem (first 3)
Thy Infernal

(ack..must go. I'll post more later.)
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 27 Oct 2006, 00:03
Quote
I'd like something with pop-minded musical arrangemens but nothing obnoxiously twee or lyrically saccharine.


Architecture in Helsinki
Belle & Sebastian
All Girl Summer Fun Band
The Boy Least Likely To
The Pippettes

I like all those I struck out, but they're definately super twee and sugary...especially AGSFB and The Boy Least Likely To.

Go for newer Of Montreal, it's dancy and kind of funky. Two Gallants are pretty good, so is MGMT(though just get the song Kids). You might like The Wrens - Meadowlands, too. Okkervil River, perhaps. You might like Adam Green-Novotel is a really cool song but his voice isn't for everyone. Oh! Andrew Bird, too.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Oct 2006, 01:14
How has this thread gone so far without a reccomendation of Slint's masterful Spiderland? Really, people.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2006, 02:08
The Rosebuds.

I would suggest I'm From Barcelona but you said you don't want overly twee.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 27 Oct 2006, 03:10
Yeah, I've been wanting to check out the rosebuds, they're from my area.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 27 Oct 2006, 03:36
Yeah.  I can handle the nihilism, Odalism, and other philosophies espoused by BMers and be find, but neo-nazism is where I draw the line.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: E. Spaceman on 27 Oct 2006, 03:42
it seems that some people are having a feeble attempt at humour by reccomending Spiderland as much as possible. But anyway, you really should get Spiderland by Slint, it is really an amazing record
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 27 Oct 2006, 03:55
Bethlehem (first 3)

They're fucking insane, youre in for a ride. Dictius Te Necare creeps the fuck out of me.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Cartilage Head on 27 Oct 2006, 04:30
 The Knife is my current squeeze music-wise right now, and they are a wonderful indie-electronic band.

 Also, The Arcade Fire is an obvious suggestion.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Joseph on 27 Oct 2006, 05:00
I definately missed out the no overly twee bit of the post.  I still stand by my recommendations of all those bands though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 05:06
looking for some upbeat riff based punk in the vein of The Hellacopters
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 27 Oct 2006, 05:12
i must second that reccomendation,

Spiderland - Slint
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Joseph on 27 Oct 2006, 05:21
(http://tykechandler.googlepages.com/spiderland.jpg/spiderland-full.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 05:23
so we have 3 recomendations for spider land out of three replies...admitadly i probly picked the wrong forum to ask for punk recomendations on but oh well... i'll see what i can do to get the album imported to OZ
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 27 Oct 2006, 05:29
well, Slint is pretty punk i think, but you might also want to take a listen to the band Fugazi. They were possibly one of the most punk bands of ever.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 05:31
i heard fugazi before and wasn't all that fussed by them, if you did notice the original topic i did ask for a specific brain try listening to "the devil stole the beat from the lord" by the Hellacopters if you want ot know the sound i want
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: bff on 27 Oct 2006, 05:39
I figured there would be more action on this thread so I left it alone.

Anyway, punk recommendations:

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2016/b00004c4l501ss500sclzzzbs1.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4471/b0001jxpes01ss500sclzzzbj0.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3418/b000001ips01ss500sclzzztl5.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4778/8ece923f8da0be07db6fa01fj5.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5372/b000001iqh01ss500sclzzzph3.jpg)

I could go on, but those are a good base to build upon.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 27 Oct 2006, 05:43
*That is a good NOFX album*
I'd say basically anything by Bikini Kill, mostly because I have a huge bias towards bands with female members.
Also, definately check out Fugazi (as mentioned).  They rock!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 27 Oct 2006, 05:53
Sleater-Fucking-Kinney
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Oct 2006, 06:04
Jawbreaker, Hot Water Music, Leatherface, Screeching Weasel, Dillinger Four

I don't know if I would peg the Hellacopters as "punk", per se, judging by what I've heard (which admittedly isn't much).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: greenMonkey on 27 Oct 2006, 06:25
Get the Dischord Records 20 Year Anniversary Box Set.  It's full of some great punk tunes, as well as some other good stuff.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 27 Oct 2006, 07:15
Listen to Propagandhi's new album Potemkin City Limits.  Propagandhi has been producing arguably the best punk music in the scene since they got their new bassist Todd Kowalski.  Their sound has gotten harder, their song structure has become much more open-ended, and as a result their lyrics much more stinging.  And did I mention Chris Hannah lays down some of the most blazing leads ever?

Other than that, yeah, Fugazi is an excellent choice.  Listen to Black Flag and Minor Threat too.  I also enjoy The Thermals.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 07:35
the 'spiderland' thing is a running joke. sorry for that.
it really doesn't apply at all.


yeah i know exactly who they are but i like playing along with jokes

i told some guy i liked metal once and he started telling me i should listen to some black metal

like slipknot

it took me ten minutes before i cracked, burst out laughing and then played him some deathcrush

his expression was amazing
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Kai on 27 Oct 2006, 07:37
Oh those silly kids. I overheard some kid refer to CHildren of Bodom as "scary" and "fucking hardcore"


It made me giggle a little bit.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 07:37
there is only one gothic metal band i actually like and that is cradle of filth rain fell within
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 27 Oct 2006, 07:41
Listen to Propagandhi's new album Potemkin City Limits.  Propagandhi has been making arguably the best punk music in the scene since they got their new bassist Todd Kowalski.  Their sound has gotten harder, their song structure has become much more open-ended, and as a result their lyrics much more stinging.  And did I mention Chris Hannah lays down some of the most blazing leads ever?

Other than that, yeah, Fugazi is an excellent choice.  Listen to Black Flag and Minor Threat too.  I also enjoy The Thermals.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Slick on 27 Oct 2006, 07:44
Kill the Lights might fit your fancy. Also from Montreal, you can tell they developed in a similar scene to the Arcade Fire, but they are in fact a different band with a different sound.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 08:01
tell me you didn't just quote your self without even changing a word...i got what you said the first time i'm sorry if i don't reply to you specificly however due to other boards i frequent i have something aginst people who do that
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 27 Oct 2006, 08:19
Melechesh are awesome and have very clean production
early mayhem are good
if your interested in the satanic side of stuff without the black metal sound (scarily enough there are a few of these people) look into mercyful fate and venom
graveworm are good unblack metal

i think everything else has been mentioned by other people
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Oct 2006, 08:30
OH!  I forgot Latterman!  Listen to Latterman.  They're so much fun.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 27 Oct 2006, 09:21
Listen to Propagandhi's new album Potemkin City Limits.  Propagandhi has been producing arguably the best punk music in the scene since they got their new bassist Todd Kowalski.  Their sound has gotten harder, their song structure has become much more open-ended, and as a result their lyrics much more stinging.  And did I mention Chris Hannah lays down some of the most blazing leads ever?

On top of that they're from Winnipeg  :-D
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Oct 2006, 09:28
The best thing about Propagandhi was John K. Samson. He's in a much better place now, a.k.a. The Weakerthans.

Anyways, if you're looking for a Hellacopters type sound try Sahara Hotnights. In particular, their album Jennie Bomb is very good. I'll warn you, they're grrrls.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 27 Oct 2006, 10:37
If you're looking for something riff-based and upbeat, you owe it to yourself to listen to the Thermals.  Seriously.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 27 Oct 2006, 11:43
Oh those silly kids. I overheard some kid refer to CHildren of Bodom as "scary" and "fucking hardcore"


It made me giggle a little bit.

I bet Arsis would destroy their minds.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 27 Oct 2006, 12:13
If you're looking for something riff-based and upbeat, you owe it to yourself to listen to the Thermals.  Seriously.

That's very, very true.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: La Creme on 27 Oct 2006, 12:14
Get the Velvet Teen's "Elysium".

Get it immediatly.

There is no indie pop thread without this record.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Jimmy Balls-O-Steel on 27 Oct 2006, 12:59
The first Ramones album is always a good bet. Great buzzsaw riffs and some surprisingly catchy melodies.

As for something more riff-driven, even if not necessarily like the Hellacopters and hasn't already been mentioned:

The Gits - Frenching The Bully
Zeke - Death Alley and/or Dirty Sanchez
The Dwarves - Blood, Guts & Pussy
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Glass & Ashes - Aesthetic Arrest
Apocalypse Hoboken - House of the Rising Son of a Bitch
The Sultans - Ghost Ship
X (the Australian one, predating the one from LA) - Aspirations
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 27 Oct 2006, 13:15

If you'll make exceptions for Burzum, you might as well make exceptions for any band that has an ideology that you don't necessarily agree with or obviously don't subscribe to. That said, it's ashame if you're crossing NS bands off your list IMO due to their radical and usually ridiculous viewpoints. There are dozens of excellent bands within that sub-genre that deserve to be heard for musical reasons alone. I can seperate myself from their message and just listen to the music, and it's not like I'm supporting them by going out and buying their entire discography in most cases or getting their logo tattooed on my back.


I pretty much agree 100% with this.

I think the reason there so much " good" NSBM being put out is the artists are pasionate about the music they make, sure they have a fucked up ideology, but they care enough about it to perform with such intensity and feeling. Case in point is Burzum, the thing which makes the band so fucking good,  is Varg cared enough about he's music to pour he's heart and soul into the recordings. Varg is hardly one of the most technically proficient musicians, Hell Eurynomous did the solo on "war" for him. But he's compostions are brilliant, the music has feeling and atmosphere behind it and thats what missing from the "mainstream" BM artists today.

I'm generalising here but 90% of the BM bands around now days (and that includes formerly decent  2nd wave bands like Darkthrone, Satyricon, etc) have basically becomes parodies of themselves and the genre, being evil for the sake of being evil and releasing albums entirely devoid of intensity feeling and "atmosphere" the central tennets of good black metal. You can throw in all the blast beats all the technically proficiency you want, you're not going to have a decent bm album if it has no atmosphere. The biggest atrocity is these albums are selling. Look at fucking Dimmu Borgir, listen to their first album, now listen to their new shit, tell me which is better but look at what sells. It fucking retarded.

Now BM has reached the point mainstream people are paying attention to it and are suddenly saying, change the vocals, fix the production etc etc etc, same thing happen to thrash in the 80's (people started saying, slow down, less riffs, more melody, better production) and what did you get fucking Metallica. Now look at the "popular" Black Metal bands today and tell me the same fucking thing isn't happening to Black Metal at the moment.

I don't want to sound like one of those Jaded "Black Metal is dead" people cause its not. Theres a lot of good underground Black Metals bands out there today, hell many of them have been mentioned in this thread and a lot of them even use "modern" production, but their still innovative, intense and passionate. But all this thing about preocupations over a bands ideology and what people are and aren't prepared to listen to has pissed me off.

Now I agree National Socialism is a fucking joke. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop listening to Wagner because he was a racist and an Anti-semite and I'm not going to stop listening to Graveland for preciesly the same reason. Theres a difference between "the man" and the music.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: T3hKiwi on 27 Oct 2006, 13:39
Sleater-Fucking-Kinney


Oh yes. Call The Doctor or Dig Me Out maybe.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: grrraham on 27 Oct 2006, 14:35
Reinventing Axl Rose by Against Me! is basically the only punk worth listening to.
Or maybe the punk most worth listening too.

Black Flag is pretty good, but whenever I listen to it I cannot help but visualize Henry Rollins screaming motivational things and tearing his shirt off, bearing his massive muscled chest. I basically can't think about anything else and cannot continue with my day until I drop everything and masturbate.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Thrillho on 27 Oct 2006, 17:26
The Knife is my current squeeze music-wise right now, and they are a wonderful indie-electronic band.

 Also, The Arcade Fire is an obvious suggestion.

Uh, is that really indie pop?
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Slick on 27 Oct 2006, 18:04
The Knife is my current squeeze music-wise right now, and they are a wonderful indie-electronic band.

 Also, The Arcade Fire is an obvious suggestion.


Uh, is that really indie pop?


Curious point! The first thing I think of when I think of indie pop is Stars or BSS, although that's probably my arts & crafts bias showing through. Thinking of the definition of popular indie bands, The Arcade Fire are probably one of the most popular indie bands of recent years. They've got catchy, poppy parts in their songs, but the edge on the vocals would make me think that they're not quite indie pop.
I feel like I'm wasting my breath even trying to talk about the definition of indie pop, though, so I'm going to stop right here.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 27 Oct 2006, 18:40
Are you kidding?  John K. Samson made them a NOFX clone, and that can never be a good thing. 

Mad props to the guy who recommended The Thermals though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Oct 2006, 19:00
Are you kidding?? John K. Samson made them a NOFX clone, and that can never be a good thing.?

If I had to chose between that and a Dillinger Escape Plan clone I know what I'd choose.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 27 Oct 2006, 20:25
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Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: edgyswingsetacid on 27 Oct 2006, 20:49
well, i don't know the meanings of the words "riff-based," and "upbeat," and i think the hellacopters suck besides.

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Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Oct 2006, 21:03
Reinventing Axl Rose by Against Me! is basically the only punk worth listening to.

I like As the Eternal Cowboy better.  As well as a lot of other punk albums not by Against Me!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: edgyswingsetacid on 27 Oct 2006, 21:09
Reinventing Axl Rose by Against Me! is basically the only punk worth listening to.

I like As the Eternal Cowboy better.  As well as a lot of other punk albums not by Against Me!

man, i really don't wanna have this conversation again, but everything against me! released after disco before the breakdown is wholly unlistenable. their 12" ep, though the mastering was fucked, is genius.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Oct 2006, 21:26
Oh, my sincerest apologies, effendi.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 27 Oct 2006, 22:11
Most of my faves were already recomended... The Hummingbirds and The Crayon Fields are great, but they might be hard to find if youi're not in Sydney (and even if you are). Saturday Looks Good To Me are also good.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 27 Oct 2006, 22:16
So... my indie pop addiction has gotten out of hand. Yesterday I spent $40 on CDs that included Saturday Looks Good To Me and a local band with a song about Angie Hart, the lead singer of Frente!
I hear alot of this 'hip-hop' and 'metal' stuff, but I kinda afraid to dip my toe into the water... is there any of it that'll appeal to someone raised on classic rock, 50s pop, and twee/indie/power-pop?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: thepugs on 27 Oct 2006, 22:37
If you like classic rock, you could hop in chronologically to metal...start with the classic NWOBHM bands - Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc. (look on www.allmusic.com (http://www.allmusic.com) for info).  Then maybe get into some thrash (Metallica, Slayer) or power (Kamelot, Sonata Arctica)- something with less edge than death or black metal.

I don't know at all about how to get someone interested in metal, I'm sure there are other people here that will be able to help you much better.

Additionally, I only listen to a few hip-hop artists, mostly just the catchy ones and a few underground bands.  I like trip-hop better.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 27 Oct 2006, 23:06
madvillian
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Jimmy Balls-O-Steel on 27 Oct 2006, 23:17
As far as hip-hop goes, the one man I'd point anyone to at any time is Whitby, Ontario's K-OS. The thing I like about him (other than writing great songs) is his ability to assimilate various other styles into his sound. One person on another board describing him as "everything ive ever wanted from hip hop the outkast couldnt give me."

If you want to ease yourself into metal from your classic-rock upbringings, I say start yourself off with some Black Sabbath and Uriah Heap, if you haven't already. I wouldn't call Uriah Heap "heavy metal," per se, but it sure as hell sounds to me like the grandfather to power-metal.

And just for shits, check out King Crimson's In The Court of the Crimson King and/or The Power To Believe. Then start checking out Yes's pre-1980s material ("Owner of a Lonely Heart" can kiss my ass, but albums such as Close to the Edge, The Yes Album and their s/t 1969 debut, among others, are nothing short of pure aural awesome). Frank Zappa is also rather good, but despite how great he could be on one album, he could be rather shitty on another. I'd say allmusic.com is actually pretty accurate in their ratings of his albums.

If everyone else here insists on suggesting Slint's Spiderland to anyone and everyone asking for recomendations, then I'll have to insist on suggesting the Ramones' first album to anyone and everyone. In fact, check out bothe albums.

If you're a fan of power-pop and you have yet to hear either Milk 'n Cookies or The Pillows, then stop wasting your time here and search those bands out! (The Pillows might be kinds tricky, seeing as they're from Japan. Check out some torrent sites, and be forewarned that everything before Please Mr. Lostman has a certain balls-lessness that was solved once the guitarist found himself a distortion pedal.)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 27 Oct 2006, 23:39
Get Paranoid by Black Sabbath.  It has a lot in common with the classic rock of the time period it was released, but it features a much darker tone and more powerful guitar.  Given your background, I think that is the best place for you to be introduced to metal in general.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 27 Oct 2006, 23:45

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If I had to chose between that and a Dillinger Escape Plan clone I know what I'd choose.
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Yeah, because Propagandhi now sounds anything like Dillinger Escape Plan.  News flash, their sound went more metal-ish than hardcore-ish.  Ja-eeeez.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: nickyandthefuture on 27 Oct 2006, 23:49
You should listen to Hum!  Spacy, loud and oblique!


If you want to stop listening to indiepop cold turkey, I recommend It's Good to be Alive by Busytoby.  That record made me hate indiepop for about six months.  It might turn you off of music all together, though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Slick on 27 Oct 2006, 23:55
Dipping your toe? I've been listening to the go! team a lot (non-stop) recently, it's some energetic indie-pop-rock with hints of hip-hop. Might ease the transition.

If you're going for K-os, Joyful Rebellion is the album to go with (though I think he has a new one I haven't heard yet?). Jurassic 5 is also good hip-hop (and they come right before K-os on my mp3 list by artist!). I'm not sure which album to recommend, but I think I have Power In Numbers.


And remember, the difference between hip-hop and rap is that hip-hop doesn't suck! At least that's how I define it in my head; if it's ambiguous and I like it, it's hip-hop.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Slick on 27 Oct 2006, 23:56
So tommy, is that the shirt for which you had to sleep with a girl to protect?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Nosh on 27 Oct 2006, 23:58
madvillian
Yesh.

Or Dangerdoom - The Mouse and the Mask. Collaberation between Dangermouse (from Gnarls Barkley, and his brilliant Grey Album) and MF Doom.
And since we mentioned MF Doom, try to find his other alias: King Geedorah - Take me to your leader. Quite brilliant, horribly overlooked.

Oh. And Deltron 3030, very laidback hiphop. You might know the rapper (Del the funky homosapien) from The Gorillaz too.

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And remember, the difference between hip-hop and rap is that hip-hop doesn't suck!

:D!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Nosh on 28 Oct 2006, 00:00
This thread is driving me literally insane.

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You mentioned Cocksparrer, in a 'recommend me' thread.

Have my lovebabies. Now. Please.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Oct 2006, 00:06
Heideroosjes.

That's the only punkband I sort of know. Enjoy.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: soak on 28 Oct 2006, 00:09
so we have 3 recomendations for spider land out of three replies...admitadly i probly picked the wrong forum to ask for punk recomendations on but oh well... i'll see what i can do to get the album imported to OZ

I bought spiderland of the shelf at JB (in QLD).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Oct 2006, 00:10
... Khar will sort you out.

But i bet that he'll include Skyclad as a recommendation. And I'd like to preemptively second that. For they are good. And folk-metal like this is easy on the ears, I find, for loads of people, even if they come from different musical backgrounds.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: soak on 28 Oct 2006, 00:18
Anything by Malajube. My new favourite band.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Oct 2006, 00:21
I think fascist pigs should be ignored in all possible ways. If that means that I will miss some awesome music so be it. I think I will survive. I'm just not willing to listen to lyrical garbage of the same sort that generated so much grief in the past.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Oct 2006, 00:22
Marillion.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 28 Oct 2006, 00:38
Has anyone mentioned Jawbreaker yet?  I want to say yes. . .
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2006, 00:40
i think if you played someone the arcade fire when they had requested 'indie pop' (i'm assuming this means 'popular music on an independent label', which it was at one point) i don't think they'd be disappointed.

Yes, but like it or lump it that is not the common definition. I would define 'pop' as 'popular music,' but by and large when people think pop they'll be thinking hooks these days, and I'd not put Arcade Fire into this category.

Of course, it's down to the thread starter to tell us which of these he was actually after.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Hammered on 28 Oct 2006, 01:39
I was going to mention Big Black and the Stooges, but neither of them are really upbeat. Still, they're both worth checking out.

Pretty obvious choices, of course, but it's all I've got for now.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2006, 01:47
So tommy, is that the shirt for which you had to sleep with a girl to protect?

yes! (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,11259.msg341903.html#msg341903)
good memory.

I remember that post!

Good times.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2006, 01:48
If no-one's mentioned them already, I say The Pariahs. Big, dumb, old punks from Kingston, Canada. Brilliant. Should be mentioned here partly because their self-titled album from last year is great, and partly because 1995's Mouthful of Headache is one of the greatest album titles ever.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 28 Oct 2006, 02:32
I think fascist pigs should be ignored in all possible ways. If that means that I will miss some awesome music so be it. I think I will survive. I'm just not willing to listen to lyrical garbage of the same sort that generated so much grief in the past.

You should ignore the BM genre altogether. There are many bands that support or write "lyrical garbage" and you might not even notice. So, just to be safe, steer clear of the entire genre.  :-D
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 28 Oct 2006, 02:56
Off of the top of my head, get your hands on the following releases:

Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia", "Stupid Dream", "Deadwing"
Anathama - "Judgement", "Eternity", "Alternative 4"
Antimatter - "Planetary Confinement"
Ancient Rites - "Fatherland"
Arcturus - "The Sham Mirrors"
Angel Corpse - "Exterminate"
Wolves In The Throne Room - "Diadem Of 12 Stars"
Iron Maiden - "Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son", "Powerslave", "Somewhere In Time", "Brave New World"
Brocas Helm - "Black Death", "Into Battle"
Areknames - "Love Hate Round Trip"
Aarni - "Baathos"
EyeHateGod - "Take As Needed For Pain", "Dopesick"
Jesu - "Silver", "Jesu"
Burning Witch - "Crippled Lucifer"
The Gault - "Even As All Before Us"
Cacophony - "Speed Metal Symphony"
Holy Terror - "Terror & Submission", "Mind Wars"
Sodom - "Agent Orange", "Tapping the Vein"
Coroner - "Punishment For Decadence", "No More Color"
Toxic Holocaust - "Evil  Never Dies"
Blood Axis - (anything and everything you can find)
Current 93 - (anything and everything you can find)
Fire + Ice - "Birdking", "Midnight Fires"
Forseti - "Erde", "Windzeit"
In Gowan Ring - (anything and everything you can find)
L'Orchestre Noir - "Cantos", "Eleven"
Of The Wand And the Moon - (anything and everything you can find)
Sol Invictus - (anything and everything you can find)
Ahvak - "Ahvak"
Anekdoten - "From Within", "Vemvoid", "Gravity"
Anglagard - "Buried Alive", "Hybris"
Comus - "First Utterance"
German Oak - "German Oak"
Paatos - "Kallocain", "Timeloss"
Univers Zero - "1313", "UZED", "Heresie"

I think that's enough for now.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Oct 2006, 03:31
Well, BM as a rule has some .. interesting ideas concerning the use of language. And that's mostly fine. I just don't like fascism or Rasism or National Socialism and will shun such bands like the plague that they are.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Slick on 28 Oct 2006, 03:35
It sticks out in my mind because I remember your logic and/or guilt amusing me at the time.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Oct 2006, 03:37
Buck 65. Any appreciation for talkin' blues and folk will combine with love for mad beatzzzz.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Felix_ on 28 Oct 2006, 04:05
Marillion.

Good call.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: BeoPuppy on 28 Oct 2006, 04:37
*bow*
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: El Opium on 28 Oct 2006, 05:19
Since it's been a while since Jeph's post is it alright if I semi-hijack the thread and ask for BM reccomendations for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: muffy on 28 Oct 2006, 05:38
Buck 65. Any appreciation for talkin' blues and folk will combine with love for mad beatzzzz.

Agreeeeeeeeed.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: amok on 28 Oct 2006, 05:49
i reccomend the little known 'spiderland' by kentucky-based beat combo slint.

here is an article (http://www.questionablewiki.com/index.php/Spiderland_Conspiracy) for more information.

of all the comedy gimmick recommendations, this one is by far the best. lovin' it.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 28 Oct 2006, 06:16
the nation blue - damnation
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: bff on 28 Oct 2006, 06:43
im not hip to all the cool labels music gets....is "muse" indie-pop?  if not i suggest "absolution"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 28 Oct 2006, 08:07
Since it's been a while since Jeph's post is it alright if I semi-hijack the thread and ask for BM reccomendations for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?

no that's called grindcore

recommendations for that genre however are

Fuck!...i'm dead
The Berzerker
Cattled Decapatation
Napalm Death
(you get the idea and i can't be bothered going on)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 28 Oct 2006, 10:28

If you're a fan of power-pop and you have yet to hear either Milk 'n Cookies or The Pillows, then stop wasting your time here and search those bands out! (The Pillows might be kinds tricky, seeing as they're from Japan. Check out some torrent sites, and be forewarned that everything before Please Mr. Lostman has a certain balls-lessness that was solved once the guitarist found himself a distortion pedal.)

If you searched for 'FLCL' or 'Furi Kuri' on file sharing sites 3 or so years ago you could find heaps of songs since they did the soundtrack for an amazing/cult anime that Jeph recently parodied in QC.
So 'way ahead of you', i guess
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 28 Oct 2006, 10:30
Get Paranoid by Black Sabbath.  It has a lot in common with the classic rock of the time period it was released, but it features a much darker tone and more powerful guitar.  Given your background, I think that is the best place for you to be introduced to metal in general.

I'm into that sort of stuff, but does all the 70s Zep/Sabbath count as metal? i've got friends who are into it.. and Guns N Roses and Crue and all that... but its much less heavy then the metal people are talking about now

Go! Team are fun.

Buck 65- 'Kennedy Killed the Hat' is one of my fave songs EVER. i also like Sage Francis. where can i find more like that?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Oct 2006, 10:42
(http://www.zero.co.nz/music/images/Stiff%20Little%20Fingers%20-%20Inflammable%20Material.jpg)

Damn! I was thinking about this thread earlier and I was going to mention SLF, but I got beaten to the stiff little punch.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Oct 2006, 10:46
To borrow from Ode:

The Knife is my current squeeze music-wise right now, and they are a wonderful indie-electronic band.

Uh, is that really indie pop?

Is that really indie pop?

indie pop?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 28 Oct 2006, 10:51
well techinically i started the thread (so i'm not sure how i'm recomending to myself)
but i just relized i forgot all about nomeansno
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 28 Oct 2006, 11:16
Get Paranoid by Black Sabbath.  It has a lot in common with the classic rock of the time period it was released, but it features a much darker tone and more powerful guitar.  Given your background, I think that is the best place for you to be introduced to metal in general.

I agree, and would also suggest Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind. They both have similarities to classic rock bands like Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin while definitely being metal in their own right. I can definitely attest that they're excellent 'gateway' bands, as I was actually once in the same position as the original poster.

From there I moved to thrash, and then on to the heavier stuff. It helped me to go in stages.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 28 Oct 2006, 12:01
So you know the really good indie record labels, and you know how you can find a label that has a bunch of bands you like, so you can pretty much tell that basically every band on that particular label is one that you will probably like, right?

I recommend Rhymesayers (http://www.rhymesayers.com/artists.php). Especially the artists Atmosphere (he introduced me to not-as-mainstream hip-hop), Brother Ali, MF DOOM, P.O.S. (equal parts hip-hop and punk. Try his cover of All Along the Watchtower), and Soul Position. Aesop Rock, Ghostface Killah, Heiruspecs, Mr. Lif and the Sneakerpimps are also pretty awesome. cLOUDDEAD is good, but Yoni Wolf's other project, Why? is way indie-pop.

Also: The grandpas of the genre, Public Enemy (but do NOT under any circumstances come anywhere close to their new stuff. It's all Flava Flave being really obnoxious), Run-DMC, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, The Sugarhill Gang (because I'm pretty sure Rapper's Delight is one of the greatest things ever written... but I think that's their only worthwhile contribution? Correct me if I'm wrong) and Kool Keith.

I'm an indie-popper too, and that is basically an ordered list of "How Brittany Got a Groove". Don't go for gangsta rap right away-but eventually you may want to look more into that.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 28 Oct 2006, 12:06
I assumed by indie-pop he meant "Dudes and ladies who have a huge boner over Phil Specter and probably Brian Wilson, as well, who release music that is not mainstream". Like pop music (bubblegum pop or otherwise) that is a little too weird for the top 40. I'm the sort of person who thinks of pop as it's own genre with a certain sound though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 28 Oct 2006, 12:16
I'm also obsessed with the Hold Steady, if that helps, but i think its covered under 'classic rock'
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Hat on 28 Oct 2006, 12:20
The Sugarhill Gang (because I'm pretty sure Rapper's Delight is one of the greatest things ever written... but I think that's their only worthwhile contribution?

I oughta slap you, boy!

Ok, so they aren't the most brilliantly consistant hip-hop group out there, but I would at least recommend picking up their best of, or at the very least, The Showdown: The Sugarhill Gang vs Grandmaster Flash, it is one of my favorite party albums of all time.

Also, while we are just recommending things that aren't Indie Pop willy Nilly:


TISM - Great Trucking Songs of the Renaissance (if you are more prone to punk) or alternativly
TISM - Machiavelli and the Four Seasons or www.tism.wanker.com (if you are more prone to electronica, except it is also kind of punk except they aren't really punk at all, look its hard to explain, they are pretty dang good)

Tism is kind of my Skyclad.

As for metal, I would recommend

Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Dio - Holy Diver
Devin Townsend - Infinity


These are all pretty good albums.

It is also pretty fantastic that in both this thread and the Indie Pop recommendation thread, someone has recommended Spiderland. I endorse this event.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Oct 2006, 12:48

Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia", "Stupid Dream", "Deadwing"


Hell yes
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Splunkle on 28 Oct 2006, 13:25
My introduction to Iron Maiden was Live at the Rock in Rio - that might offend the purists, but its still one of favorite Maiden albums. So if you are into live albums, thats preety awesome.

So I'm thinking we need to reccomend some electronica, but I'm not really sure where to start. Early stuff is usually a good bet though, so I'm going to reccomend Kraftwerk's album The Mix. At least, I think thats the one. Actually, its all preety damn good, and you probably see where some of the indie-pop dudes get their ideas from. Because almost all forms of electronica has been influenced by Kraftwerk, you see.

I will also second the Pillows reccomendation.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 28 Oct 2006, 13:52
I second or is it third now, the Iron Maiden reccomendations, Powerslave is the album that got me hooked on metal.

Other good metal recs. All this stuff should be pretty accessible for a non metal fan.

Prog Metal:
Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
Dream Theatre - Awake
Fates Warning - Awaken the Gaurdian
Green Carnation - A Blessing in Disguise

Power Metal:
Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out in Space
Kamelot - Seige Perilous
Demons and Wizards - Self tittled

Speed Metal:
Helloween - Walls of Jericho
Blind Gaurdian - Battallions of Fear
Accept - Restless and Wild

Traditonal/heavy:
Iced Earth - Something Wicked This Way Comes
Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World
Jag Panzer - Mechanized Warfare
Judas Priest - Painkiller

Doom:
Candlemass - Nightfall
Black Sabbath - Volume 4
Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium


Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 28 Oct 2006, 13:59
I recommend Rhymesayers (http://www.rhymesayers.com/artists.php). Especially ... Atmosphere (he introduced me to not-as-mainstream hip-hop)...

What's a good record of Atmosphere's to get into?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 28 Oct 2006, 14:05
Also, if you haven't heard Slint's Spiderland then you should get right on that.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Oct 2006, 14:28
I recommend Rhymesayers (http://www.rhymesayers.com/artists.php). Especially ... Atmosphere (he introduced me to not-as-mainstream hip-hop)...

What's a good record of Atmosphere's to get into?

Try Seven's Travels or God Loves Ugly.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: muffy on 28 Oct 2006, 16:13
Actress Hands are kind of Indie Poppy in a pavementy sort of way with blurry bits too. And they're generally worth checking out, for they are awesome.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 29 Oct 2006, 00:23
I like Lucy Ford the best.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 29 Oct 2006, 01:15
Gogol Bordello!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 29 Oct 2006, 01:47
Has anyone mentioned Jawbreaker yet?  I want to say yes. . .

NO BECAUSE THEY SUCK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Title: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Joseph on 29 Oct 2006, 03:03
I really really would like some help.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: öde on 29 Oct 2006, 03:07
Anal Cunt.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Oct 2006, 03:10
To borrow from Ode:

The Knife is my current squeeze music-wise right now, and they are a wonderful indie-electronic band.

Uh, is that really indie pop?

Is that really indie pop?

indie pop?

I wasn't referring to The Knife.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Kai on 29 Oct 2006, 04:17
(http://www.rockantenne.de/red@eck/images/milestones/l/bonjovi_slipperywhen.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Kai on 29 Oct 2006, 04:57
(except that someone totally actually mentioned Jawbreaker. Like 8 posts above him. But wut eva)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: timehat on 29 Oct 2006, 05:41
Off of the top of my head, get your hands on the following releases:

Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia", "Stupid Dream", "Deadwing"
Anathama - "Judgement", "Eternity", "Alternative 4"
Antimatter - "Planetary Confinement"
Ancient Rites - "Fatherland"
Arcturus - "The Sham Mirrors"
Angel Corpse - "Exterminate"
Wolves In The Throne Room - "Diadem Of 12 Stars"
Iron Maiden - "Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son", "Powerslave", "Somewhere In Time", "Brave New World"
Brocas Helm - "Black Death", "Into Battle"
Areknames - "Love Hate Round Trip"
Aarni - "Baathos"
EyeHateGod - "Take As Needed For Pain", "Dopesick"
Jesu - "Silver", "Jesu"
Burning Witch - "Crippled Lucifer"
The Gault - "Even As All Before Us"
Cacophony - "Speed Metal Symphony"
Holy Terror - "Terror & Submission", "Mind Wars"
Sodom - "Agent Orange", "Tapping the Vein"
Coroner - "Punishment For Decadence", "No More Color"
Toxic Holocaust - "Evil? Never Dies"
Blood Axis - (anything and everything you can find)
Current 93 - (anything and everything you can find)
Fire + Ice - "Birdking", "Midnight Fires"
Forseti - "Erde", "Windzeit"
In Gowan Ring - (anything and everything you can find)
L'Orchestre Noir - "Cantos", "Eleven"
Of The Wand And the Moon - (anything and everything you can find)
Sol Invictus - (anything and everything you can find)
Ahvak - "Ahvak"
Anekdoten - "From Within", "Vemvoid", "Gravity"
Anglagard - "Buried Alive", "Hybris"
Comus - "First Utterance"
German Oak - "German Oak"
Paatos - "Kallocain", "Timeloss"
Univers Zero - "1313", "UZED", "Heresie"

I think that's enough for now.
This a good fucking list, seriously. My main gripe is that you didn't list "Mental Vortex" from Coroner. I love that album.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Rubby on 29 Oct 2006, 05:47
I say Misfits. Either of the collections (1 or 2) or static age should do you nicely.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 29 Oct 2006, 06:36
MY POINT IS EVERYBODY FOCUSED ON THE WRONG PART OF THAT POST

THE KNIFE ARE NOT INDIE POP

THE ARCADE FIRE ARE CLOSE ENOUGH

IN THE LATTER INSTANCE I WOULD SAY "GET OVER IT"

BUT SHEESH GUYS

THE KNIFE


GRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Skibas_clavicle on 29 Oct 2006, 06:50
BEULAH. Really fun, great band. It also appears that most of the people in this thread and I have a different opinion what "indie pop" means.

And Barenaked Ladies, DynamineKid? They're like what my friends' hoser parents listen to.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 29 Oct 2006, 08:48
clever lyrics? neat hooks and melodies? got me into indie pop? check
hell, lets throw in Fountains of Wayen for 'mainstream pop'
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 29 Oct 2006, 08:55
I saw them live on the strenght of two songs (Last Caress and Dig Up Her Bones) and a free ticket. Didn't really like them, but i'm guessing what i liked in those songs was Danzig, and if i listened to Danzig era Misfits i'd love it? like the choruses and the song structure combined with the roughness and the darkness, if that makes sense
man moshing to Last Caress and Dig Up Her Bones is awesome
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 29 Oct 2006, 09:40
According to the Grade 5 girl I was talking to this afternoon, a good band for you would be Simple Plan.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Storm Rider on 29 Oct 2006, 10:36
Goddammit Kai, I already made the Slippery When Wet joke.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 29 Oct 2006, 12:31
Has anyone mentioned Jawbreaker yet?? I want to say yes. . .

NO BECAUSE THEY SUCK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00000G6PJ.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Chesire Cat on 29 Oct 2006, 13:53
Islands, Sloan, Wilco, Hot Hot Heat's first record. There.

YES!

Barenaked Ladies - Barenaked Ladies Are Me

Im going to go out on a limb and say you arent Canadian are you?
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 29 Oct 2006, 14:09
Get their first album, Gordon. "And i'm lying in bed/just like Brian Wilson did"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 29 Oct 2006, 15:26
According to the Grade 5 girl I was talking to this afternoon, a good band for you would be Simple Plan.
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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


(now just imagined if i hadn't calmed myself...of course i could have just been using the medatative breathing to beable to scream porperly...your decision)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: öde on 29 Oct 2006, 16:22
Oh those silly kids. I overheard some kid refer to CHildren of Bodom as "scary" and "fucking hardcore"


It made me giggle a little bit.

Moar liek Children Of Boredom mirite?

Sleater-Kinney and Fugazi are the best bands ever.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Inlander on 29 Oct 2006, 16:29
You see?  You see?!  This is the kind of specificity we need to encourage around here.  Not "recommend me some indie" or "recommend me some metal" - but "recommend me some damn early 90s damn math-rock on damn Touch & Go."  I mean, a record label and everything!  YES.  No room for doubt, no room for confusion - Dark Flame, I applaud you and your tracer-bullet-like approach to the standard, tired, music recommendation thread.

That said, I barely even understand what that thread subject means, so, uh, I got nothin'.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: TheCourtJester on 29 Oct 2006, 16:30
As long as Bad Religion, The Queers, and the Sex Pistols are mentioned, I don't need to destroy anyone.

Arrrghhguil4ewa...I'm too drunk for this. Here's my contribution if I can manage:

(http://cover09.cduniverse.com/PhantomArt/158922.jpg)

(http://cover09.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/530/530241.jpg)

(http://cover09.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/350/359564.jpg)

(http://cover09.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/520/524374.jpg)

(http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00000I9VT.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

And here's where I've known people to get pissed:
(http://cover09.cduniverse.com/muzeaudioart/100/106843.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 29 Oct 2006, 16:50
Kerplunk isn't a bad album, but Pennywise, dude?  And THE F-UPS?!?

I am especially pissed at The F-Ups.  That band was pure shit, and a complete cash-in on the punk aesthetic.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 29 Oct 2006, 16:58
here are some bands that haven't been mentioned yet and have upbeat riffs:
guitar wolf
born against
(young) pioneers
teenage bottlerocket
angry samoans
fifteen
avail
lawrence arms

i think that propagandhi kind of sucked after less talk more rock.
ps listening to pennywise makes you a jerk...sorry but its been scientifically proven.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 29 Oct 2006, 17:32
Since it's been a while since Jeph's post is it alright if I semi-hijack the thread and ask for BM reccomendations for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?

abruptum
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 29 Oct 2006, 18:03
Has anyone mentioned Jawbreaker yet?? I want to say yes. . .

NO BECAUSE THEY SUCK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00000G6PJ.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)


You quote my opinion on a boring, over-rated band, a band moreover which does not really sound punk at all, and then you quote a very good, widely liked album of huge importance to the history of rock that I have recommended, that everyone can agree on is punk.

I don't see where you're coming from.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: SpacemanSpiff on 29 Oct 2006, 18:54
Kai already mentioned the most important band.

If you define 1994 and 1995 still as early (well, it was the first half, technically), then:
Rodan and June of 44. Also Shellac (duh).

Polvo are also well worth checking out.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Levi! on 29 Oct 2006, 19:06
What about Death Cab for Cutie? Or Snow Patrol?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 29 Oct 2006, 19:18
White Mice

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/WhiteMice.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 29 Oct 2006, 19:31
Basically, I'm saying that listening to The Sex Pistols, for me, would be a less enjoyable experience than simply having Johnny Rotten shit directly into my ear, and that Jawbreaker is one of my favorite bands. In short, I disagree with you.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 29 Oct 2006, 20:19
We've been through this before, and we have come to the conclusion that some people think that forming as a vehicle to sell merchandise (much like the Monkees) and signing to EMI, Virgin and Warner Brothers for a #1 record would disqualify them from being punk. While others would think that pins and ripped shirts are like, the punkest thing ever.

So, there is really no reason to go over this again.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: *Sights* on 29 Oct 2006, 21:46
Is Snow Patrol indie pop? I think they sound more like mainstream rock-pop stuff. I once saw...was told by someone their videos get airplay in MTV.

Please could someone knowledgeable enough try and define just what indie pop means? I agree with AIH and Belle and Sebastian, but, good god, Built to Spill and Animall Collective? Broken Social Scene never sounded really pop to me either.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Johnny C on 29 Oct 2006, 22:57
Whatever you do, DF, don't get Slint's Spiderland. It's awful.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 29 Oct 2006, 22:58
Has anyone mentioned Jawbreaker yet?  I want to say yes. . .

NO BECAUSE THEY SUCK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Ha.  You listen to black metal.  I don't care what you think.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 29 Oct 2006, 23:43
Sid Vicious' drug consumption easily qualifies the Sex Pistols as punks in the truest sense of the term.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 29 Oct 2006, 23:48
Meh... I don't really like the Sex Pistols. The Clash were far better.

Also, I am recommending Brigada Flores Magon (http://www.brigadafloresmagon.org) They are a French redskin band, and are pretty cool. Also they have their last three albums on their website free to download, which is rather cool.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Misereatur on 29 Oct 2006, 23:58
don caballero! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Caballero)

they formed in 1991.
so there.

YES.

Also
Quote from: SpacemanSpiff
Kai already mentioned the most important band.

If you define 1994 and 1995 still as early (well, it was the first half, technically), then:
Rodan and June of 44. Also Shellac (duh).
Try Shipping New too, I love them. With members from June of 44 and Rodan.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Slick on 30 Oct 2006, 01:50
See, that's why I'm studying math instead of something in the arts. If we have an argument over definitions or classifications, I will go back to first principals and try some proofs and examine functions and see what I can make out of it.
Debating meanings and purposes can be a whole lot of fun, but I can get sick of it when we've got no common measures or standards. In my theoretical world, things are easier to define.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: Cartilage Head on 30 Oct 2006, 03:35
 I just figured that The Knife could be considered indie pop because A. They are indie, and B. They define themselves as, and I quote, "Emotional Electronic POP."
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: bff on 30 Oct 2006, 03:45
Sid Vicious' drug consumption easily qualifies the Sex Pistols as punks in the truest sense of the term.

replacing your bass player with a fan who can't play does not make a band "punk". 
I stand by my previous suggestions as an excellent punk starter kit, although it is missing representation from the early '80s American hardcore scene.  I know many people swear by the Minor Threat discopraphy, but it has never done anything for me.

*edit* If I were picking one Pennywise cd to represent them, I would probably go "About Time" or "Unknown Road".  My personal fav by them is "Wildcard/A Word From the Wise"
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: Inlander on 30 Oct 2006, 03:52
inlander, you are becoming senile and easily confused.

Bah!  You kids and your "trends".

(wanders off to think about buying Spiderland)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Kai on 30 Oct 2006, 04:01
I've been listening to waaaayyyy too much music that does not have Iggy Pop in it and I want something more in the vein of Iggy Pop right now.   I'd like something with pop-minded musical arrangemens but nothing obnoxiously twee or lyrically saccharine.  Recommend away and I'll put BitTorrent to work!  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Recommend me some early 90s Math-Rock on Touch & Go
Post by: El Opium on 30 Oct 2006, 04:18
I agree with Polvo and reccomend that you avoid Tar.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: devils_daughter on 30 Oct 2006, 04:19
Iggy Pop is the only gig I've seen where I agreed with the people throwing bottles at him!

Hence I would say, find something else to listen to!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Hammered on 30 Oct 2006, 04:29
This reminds me that I've wanted to get the T.V. Eye album for a while; does anyone here who has it want to comment?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 30 Oct 2006, 05:07
ok let's try and settle a few arugments (by which i mean start a few more)

personally i think punk is based on lyrical content
question: do antiflag count as punk? are they still punk since they moved to sony?

to whoever said the opinion of the person who listens to black metal dosn't count is wrong i listen to black metal as well that person's opinon dosn't count because he can't articulate himself and instead wrote AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

the sex pistols are to the ramones what the monkees were to the beatles.

and at this point i have to drop a noel gallagher quote (referring to blur)

Quote
we are the beatles and the stones, THEY are the monkeys
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 30 Oct 2006, 05:17
And how exactly would punk be defined by lyrical content?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Beautiful Maladies on 30 Oct 2006, 06:01
Iggy Pop is the only gig I've seen where I agreed with the people throwing bottles at him!

Hence I would say, find something else to listen to!

i'm willing to bet that, if these bottles were glass, they were less throwing them "at" him than "for" him.

you see, he has a habit of rolling around in broken glass (and possibly peanut butter) live.

this, alone, makes being an iggy pop fan worth it.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: devils_daughter on 30 Oct 2006, 06:06
Considering it went like this:

*bottles*
Iggy "you think can do better?"
Crowd "Hell yeh!"
Iggy "then get the fuck up here then"


I would assume mebbe not!
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 30 Oct 2006, 06:33
i'd say it is supposed to be music on an independent label that is popular.

these days it seems to mean 'music that is influenced by/ similar to music on an independent label that is popular/ has blatent hooks and melody etc'.
in other news, music categorisation continues to be stupid.

I think thats actually what it originally meant. Its "in a perfect world, this would be a hit". Sometimes it is- Aussie Augie March has a top 10 hit here now, but usually that dosen't happen. There's also a guy named Bob Evans, who's really the dude from Jebediah. he's got a Top 10 hit with something that sounds like it was written by Burt Bacharach
For me its music that pretends pop songs are still written like they were in the 60s, with a sweet melody and hooks and lyrics... not so much electronic production or booty shaking, though you can get a bit of that.
Lyrics tend to be either clever or really cute... sometimes sarcastic, often 'aggressivly innocent'- like I said to dad, i don't need Soul. i need Scottish people writing songs about reading books. its an escape

er.. fan wankishness aside, it can simply mean "music that would have sold a million copies in 1960, but is now indie". thats why i include bands like Fountains of Wayne
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 06:42
Punk is defined by ethos and intent.

We've been over what I've said before as well: that comparing the Sex Pistols (formed as something like a performance art project) with the Monkees (formed for a package TV series/merchandising deal) is completely ridiculous; that the cultural impact of the Sex Pistols, in as far as actually getting punk out there, making the entire British establishment shit their pants and having a life performance that pretty much led to the formation of bands including Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees, and in completely overturning notions of what could actually make it as a '#1' record, did far more for cultural life and for music in general than ten perhaps more proficient and prolific lesser known artists. Also, that Anarchy in the UK, God Save the Queen, (I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone, are great songs. Despite their morals, intentions, whatever, The Sex Pistols accomplished more than any other punk band in history.

I will also point out now that Jawbreaker are bland rock that does not deserve a place in a thread about punk.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Slick on 30 Oct 2006, 06:47
So is this genre defined as music made by iggys that is popular, or is it music made by iggys that has 'pop sensibilities'?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: John Butler Train on 30 Oct 2006, 06:48
The Sex Pistols were a band of Hairdressers.
Their music was inconsequential in every sense of the word.

Now Johnny Ramone, he was more worthy of our attention. He was much more politically minded.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: John Butler Train on 30 Oct 2006, 06:57
Iggy Pop is an amusing homosexual.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 07:02
Since it's been a while since Jeph's post is it alright if I semi-hijack the thread and ask for BM reccomendations for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?

Misanthropy, Belketre, Vargshelske, Enbilulugugal, Crossodomiser, Sarnath, Cumming Jehovah, Schizoid, Abyss Angel, Wolfsburg, ...Aaaarrghh..., Chainsaw Gutsfuck, Graven, Profanatica, Gosforth, Total Genocide, Varnacht, Woods of Fallen, Ixtab

Some at least should suit.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 07:03
If there had been no sex pistols, there would be no Joy Division.

Inconsequential?
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: John Butler Train on 30 Oct 2006, 07:03
What of the bands that do have 'a hit'?

The Arcade Fire for example.
They have easily surpassed the million mark.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: John Butler Train on 30 Oct 2006, 07:05
Just think, that young man might still be alive now were it not for the Sex Pistols.

What a terrible shame.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: bff on 30 Oct 2006, 07:16
Punk is defined by ethos and intent.

We've been over what I've said before as well: that comparing the Sex Pistols (formed as something like a performance art project) with the Monkees (formed for a package TV series/merchandising deal) is completely ridiculous; that the cultural impact of the Sex Pistols, in as far as actually getting punk out there, making the entire British establishment shit their pants and having a life performance that pretty much led to the formation of bands including Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees, and in completely overturning notions of what could actually make it as a '#1' record, did far more for cultural life and for music in general than ten perhaps more proficient and prolific lesser known artists. Also, that Anarchy in the UK, God Save the Queen, (I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone, are great songs. Despite their morals, intentions, whatever, The Sex Pistols accomplished more than any other punk band in history.

Much like the Stones vs. Beatles arguments, the Clash vs. Sex Pistols is something few people seem to be able to refrain from picking sides. I am a Clash man myself and think Johnny Rotten is a complete and utter ass.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 07:21
Just think, that young man might still be alive now were it not for the Sex Pistols.

What a terrible shame.

Are you talking about Ian Curtis?

Because that makes literally no sense.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: twilightcreep on 30 Oct 2006, 07:37
Hot Snakes, Rocket From the Crypt, Marked Men, Ghost Mice, Defiance Ohio, This Bike is a Pipebomb, Ted Leo, Small Brown Bike, Nation of Ulysses, Murder City Devils, International Noise Conspiracy, and ummm.... gob...
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: *Sights* on 30 Oct 2006, 07:38
This thread is missing something...
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: El Opium on 30 Oct 2006, 07:46
According to the physics used on this board it's probably anal cunt, though bold new theories could soon prove that it's actually Slint's "Spiderland".
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Oct 2006, 07:52
Actually, it's Jets to Brazil. Sorry El Opium, but you were close.
Title: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Gryff on 30 Oct 2006, 07:58
I'm kind of thirsty right now, and since I've been drinking quite a bit of cola recently, I want to try something new. Can you guys recommend me a drink that is similar to cola but different?
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Gridgm on 30 Oct 2006, 08:09
well if you can get hold of a bottle of coke from the 1920's that'd probably taste different...apparantly that actually had coke in it
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 30 Oct 2006, 08:26
Now there is officially no shortage of threads in which I can recommend the purchase of Please Kill Me: An Oral History Of Punk by Legs McNeil and someone else. Full of great stories about Iggy, and really about punk in general. It's great. Read it. Seriously. Dammit.

Anyways, I recommend his stupendous collaboration with Sum 41, "Little Know-It-All"!
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 30 Oct 2006, 08:32
(http://www.flakmag.com/misc/images/chubby.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: SciWed on 30 Oct 2006, 08:34
Come on...an obvious one.  The Misfits.  Oldies but goodies.  I mean, punk music with the most unpunk lyrics...that, my good sirs and ma'ams, is punk. 
By the way, I mean Misfits '77-'83.  Not the new crappy incarnation, '95 - now.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 30 Oct 2006, 08:41
I will also point out now that Jawbreaker are bland rock that does not deserve a place in a thread about punk.

You know what?  You're right.  In fact, here's an open invitation to viciously savage my taste in music: www.last.fm/user/happybivouac
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 30 Oct 2006, 09:06
If there had been no sex pistols, there would be no Joy Division.

Inconsequential?

If there had been no New York Dolls, there would have been no Sex Pistols. Don't make this into a pissing match, guys.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 09:44
But Joy Division were literally formed because of the members attending a Sex Pistols concert. As were goodness knows how many other bands: people saw the Sex Pistols, they started bands.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 30 Oct 2006, 09:52
No offense, but most of those bands are absolute garbage. Especially Enbilulugugal. I should get a recorder and tape static and hit a coffee can over and over again so I can be like Izedis (Dusty).
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: *Sights* on 30 Oct 2006, 09:54
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_soda
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Slick on 30 Oct 2006, 10:13
(http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6910/imagecm8.jpg)

I recommend Jones' Soda, they make some pretty awesome cream soda & dark cherry.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: FreshJive787 on 30 Oct 2006, 10:19
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/frog80/soapbutt.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Dayuse on 30 Oct 2006, 10:30
The Acrobrats (http://www.theacrobrats.com/)?
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Scytale on 30 Oct 2006, 10:32
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola

Clearly open coal is the only soda you can trust, who knows what those proprietery soda companies are putting in there source code, umm I mean in there recipe.
Title: Re: Recommend Me Some Indie Pop
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 30 Oct 2006, 10:36
What of the bands that do have 'a hit'?

The Arcade Fire for example.
They have easily surpassed the million mark.

Yeah... sometimes bands do break. Augie March are probably the biggest example around here- literate lyrics that'd make Colin Meloy blush, melencholy melodies, playing tiny clubs for 4 nights in a row... and then 'One Crowded Hour' drops and they're featured in every TV ad everywhere. And I met a gal from Glasgow who reckons Stuart Murdoch is a celebrity and acts like it.

Its still indie pop if it gets big, since its in the aesthetic, I think.  Belle & Sebastian and Fountains of Wayne have had hits, but if you say 'recomend me some indie pop' i'll still be okay with them, 'cause alot of their  albums weren't hits and they had hits with literate songwriting craft
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 30 Oct 2006, 10:47
to be fair that's not all he listens too.

i'd be prepared to bet kharbevnor listens to a much broader range of music than 95% of this forum.

I never said it was all he listens to.  But black metal is, at best, a novelty, much like much gangsta rap. 

@kharbevnor- Jawbreaker is not bland.  I don't know what makes you say that.  Oh, and Joy Division is not better than Nirvana.  Yeah, I know that's from an old thread, but I can't believe you think that.  Nothing against you personally, of course.  I'm not aiming to start a flame war.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Ernest on 30 Oct 2006, 10:50
I drank a nine-year-old Mr. Pibb.  It tasted okay, but it was a bit different.  I wonder if the recipe has been modified over the years.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 30 Oct 2006, 10:57
to be fair that's not all he listens too.

i'd be prepared to bet kharbevnor listens to a much broader range of music than 95% of this forum.

I never said it was all he listens to. But black metal is, at best, a novelty, much like much gangsta rap.

the difference being that black metal started in the early 80's and is still going (i'm referenceing lyrical theme's rather than sound at the momnet ie. venom, mercyful fate and the like)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 30 Oct 2006, 11:01
No offense, but most of those bands are absolute garbage. Especially Enbilulugugal. I should get a recorder and tape static and hit a coffee can over and over again so I can be like Izedis (Dusty).

note the for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 30 Oct 2006, 11:03
You mean gangsta rap isn't still going?  Hmmm. . . then I wonder what all this stuff I've been listening to is.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 11:05
Indeed.

Also, Enbilulugugal is worth it simply for the titles. And that song with the futurama sample.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 11:28
@kharbevnor- Jawbreaker is not bland.  I don't know what makes you say that.  Oh, and Joy Division is not better than Nirvana.  Yeah, I know that's from an old thread, but I can't believe you think that.  Nothing against you personally, of course.  I'm not aiming to start a flame war.

Grunge is, at best, a novelty, much like the hair metal it replaced.

Only with less musicianship and cocaine and more heroin and plaid.

As to Jawbreaker: all I have to go by is a song from the forced listening thread, and what I could find on youtube. Their one video 'Fireman' is just about tolerable until the soul-less singing kicks in alongside the most mind-numbingly generic 90's pop-punk riff I've ever heard outside of Green Day. The live stuff is better, if only because they seem to possibly have a different singer, or at least their singer has smoked about ten kilos of hash before the show, judging by his more gravelly voice. Still, it's nothing that I haven't heard about a hundred times before. I think this band must be something like Deftones: one arbitrary band from a completely worthless form of music that everyone has decided to love.

As for Nirvana: Kurt Cobain would have agreed with me. Hell, Kurt Cobain would have agreed The Field Mice were better than Nirvana. There is nothing special about Nirvana. They wrote some pretty good grunge songs, some stuff thats just objectively not bad, then Kurt gave his shotgun a blowjob. Nada.  Though, I can't trash Nirvanas legacy completely: if not for them, fifteen year old stoners world wide would ALL wear that one Led Zeppelin shirt, instead of half of them wearing that one Nirvana shirt instead.

Also, I'm going to seriously question the purpose in criticising me for listening to black metal (a genre I would be surprised if you knew jack shit about), if you equate it to gangster rap and then say yourself that you listen to gangster rap
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Oct 2006, 11:50
Grunge is, at best, a novelty, much like the hair metal it replaced.

Only with less musicianship and cocaine and more heroin and plaid.

This is pretty much the best line ever.

Quote
Though, I can't trash Nirvanas legacy completely: if not for them, fifteen year old stoners world wide would ALL wear that one Led Zeppelin shirt, instead of half of them wearing that one Nirvana shirt instead.

I don't see how tis is a good thing
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 30 Oct 2006, 12:22
Indeed.

Also, Enbilulugugal is worth it simply for the titles. And that song with the futurama sample.

I'm an acquaintence with the guy behind Enbilulugugal and Chernobog, he has issues and far too much time on his hands. He sent me a demo tape of Enbilulugugal once back in '98 and it was limited too like 13 copies and he numbered them in blood.

 :roll:
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: salada on 30 Oct 2006, 12:26
you need mecca cola (http://www.mecca-cola.com/en/index.php)!

(http://www.mecca-cola.com/images/cola_06.jpg)

no more stupid drinking! drink with comittment!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 30 Oct 2006, 12:28
@kharbevnor- Jawbreaker is not bland.  I don't know what makes you say that.  Oh, and Joy Division is not better than Nirvana.  Yeah, I know that's from an old thread, but I can't believe you think that.  Nothing against you personally, of course.  I'm not aiming to start a flame war.

Oh, subjective opinions presented as fact.
Yes, rational debate is totally wack.
You like this band? You must be on crack!
It's subjective opinions presented as fact!
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Felix_ on 30 Oct 2006, 12:29
Tab.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Gryff on 30 Oct 2006, 12:31
Have you tried Spiderland by Slint? It's refreshing and it tastes so good!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 12:33
Who doesn't limit all their releases and hand number them in blood :?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 30 Oct 2006, 12:36
Who doesn't limit all their releases and hand number them in blood :?

Blondie.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Jed on 30 Oct 2006, 13:17
Subs http://www.chaile.org/subs/
I've seen them live and they're chinese, that's why.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 30 Oct 2006, 14:16
Their one video 'Fireman' is just about tolerable until the soul-less singing kicks in alongside the most mind-numbingly generic 90's pop-punk riff I've ever heard outside of Green Day. The live stuff is better, if only because they seem to possibly have a different singer, or at least their singer has smoked about ten kilos of hash before the show, judging by his more gravelly voice.

Actually, the reason his voice is softer on "Fireman" is because just prior to recording the album it's on (Dear You) he'd had throat surgery (his second or third, actually) because he'd fucked up his throat to the point where there were polyps on his vocal cords, and thus he had to take it easy.  If you were to hear a live version of that song, from after his throat healed, he'd probably be singing it all loud and gravelly like usual.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 14:38
Sob story or no, it sounds like shit.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 30 Oct 2006, 15:24
I never said it was all he listens to.  But black metal is, at best, a novelty, much like much gangsta rap. 


If you wanted to make me bang my head against the keyboard you have suceeded, congrats...

I'm not even going to atempt a reply to this as I assume it was some pathetic attempt at instigating a flame war.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 30 Oct 2006, 15:36
Velvet Cacoon is probably the most amusing BM band I've come across.

I'm not usually a fan of all that discordant atonal stuff, but El opium, I think you'll like  Blut Aus Nord's "The Work Which Transforms God". It has structure in it and I guess you could say it has melody but it's weird and atonal enough to please you out I'm sure.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Oct 2006, 16:06
Anal ColaCunt
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Spinless on 30 Oct 2006, 17:32
I was at a party that played a Sum 41 album all the way through THREE TIMES a few days ago.
It had poppy punk, metal and a saxaphone solo.
Sum 41 are just embarassing. Except for 'Does this look infected' which had  a bonus track about world war 7 or something which was basically a story about the war between man and machine told in the Terminator. I liked the Terminator, so I have to think that song is pretty cool, however much it sounds exactly like every other track on the album.
I secretly liked a pretty big chunk of the Skull Ring album. It's all pretty much all just shallow filler if I can remember correctly, but it's easy to enjoy it.
I must have listenned to that album about 3 whole times before I deleted it.

It's really weird that a lot of Iggy's more recent material has been on par with something like Sum 41. Next he'll make a punk album with Saxophones or something lame.*

I have NEVER met anybody in person who claims to like punk AND likes Iggy Pop. Actually, every time I try to talk to somebody about Iggy Pop, they say 'He's old and shit'. I mention the Stooges and they ask 'What, you mean like, the three stooges?'. I ask what the best punk band of all time is. THREE people have given me this EXACT WORD FOR WORD answer. Granted, they live together so they'd have probably discussed it with eachother in the past.
"It's either the Sex Pistols or the Dead Kennedys. Probably the Pistols because they came first."

I nearly died.

The only people I have ever met who say they like Iggy Pop are my dad, and some other dude. The other dude likes the Libertines though, so he must have heard some cool kids saying 'Yeah, I love Iggy Pop. I play funhouse everyday'.

*Yes. I know. I like it too.Of COURSE I was joking.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Mark7 on 30 Oct 2006, 17:46
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Mark761/300px-Irnbrubottleregular.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Chesire Cat on 30 Oct 2006, 20:19
Have you tried Spiderland by Slint? It's refreshing and it tastes so good!


Saw it coming
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: cTony on 30 Oct 2006, 21:15

Quote
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Mark761/300px-Irnbrubottleregular.jpg)
hmhmh...

Drinking that triggered an allergic reaction to its over abundant preservative that left my face several times its size for three of the more crucial years of my high school social development.
Now i am limited to a small set of food and drink, and i can't just eat anything etc; Total embarressment at restraunts because they dont have a clue what the stuff i'm mentioning is - Its not a straight forward thing to ask about.
The volume of the stuff in things like lagers, cokes, cakes etc was never enough to triggor the reaction; But now that Irn Bru caused that to begin, i can't drink or eat any of that stuff, eg: Pizza, Dried fruit, lager etc.

Theres a reason America doesn't allow it over there.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 21:18
Black metal can be some of the most emotionally charged music certainly I've ever heard. In fact, at it's best I would say the genre is all about a 'pure' expression of emotion. It's about catharsis more than empathy maybe, but the feelings of artists such as Burzum, Xasthur and Abyssic Hate are abundantly clear.

As far as empathy meaning 'relate to the singer' (rather than just experience his or her emotions)...well,  FUCKING SKYCLAD.

Seriously, I've never heard anyone bare all like Martin Walkyier does, not in such style anyway. Except perhaps Douglas Pearce, now I come to think of it. Both musical idols of mine anyway. Normally, however, metal isn't about everyday issues in such a straightforward way as Skyclad. This is not to say metal is meaningless, or that there is no way of relating with the singer, but rather that the relationship is normally on a different level, ie imagination/intellectual. Metal is also vastly emotionally stimulating in over ways: it's elatory, energetic, fun, and when it actually clicks, the 'brothers and sisters in metal!' thing, in a crowd or at a festival or something, is just the greatest thing ever.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: amok on 30 Oct 2006, 21:20
(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/3270/leninadebigad0.jpg)

Leninade (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=leninade&btnG=Search+Froogle)
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 30 Oct 2006, 21:35
This is my favorite music thread ever.  I have nothing to contribute, so I'll say Jones as well.  Just not those damn holiday flavors.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Skibas_clavicle on 30 Oct 2006, 21:55
I'm going to recommend some of my favourite bands right now and NOT be a stereotypical forum goer and argue what and what doesn't classify as a) good b)punk. These might deviate from the label "punk", all at their own respective degrees, but they've all got punk elements in them and are generally enjoyed by punk fans.

Jawbreaker, Jawbox, The Lawrence Arms, Misfits, Closet Monster, At The Drive-In, Cap'n Jazz, The Methadones, The Jam, Alkaline Trio, Turbonegro, Sleater-Kinney, Bratmobile, Hot Water Music, Small Brown Bike, Blood Brothers, Iggy & The Stooges, Adolescents, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Propagandhi, Shellac, Shiner & Television.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 00:13
So, I've been listening to Tweez a lot lately.

Are there any other Slint albums that are good?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2006, 00:15
Spider...spider something or other, I can't remember the name of it. Spiderman?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 00:17
I think it's Batman. But doesn't everyone here hate it?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 00:20
I've been making a lot of Trogdor the Burninator jokes whilst I listen to a certain Slint album recently but it isn't cutting it. I need something more forum based, maybe a bit ironic, and definitely REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.

Anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 00:23
I've been making a lot of Trogdor the Burninator jokes whilst I listen to a certain Slint album recently but it isn't cutting it. I need something more forum based, maybe a bit ironic, and definitely REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.

Anyone got any ideas?

I need something more forum based, maybe a bit ironic, and definitely REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.

Anyone got any ideas?


definitely REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.

Anyone got any ideas?



definitely REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.


REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING.


Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2006, 00:23
Darryl, everyone knows the best punk band ever is like, fucking Blink 182. Do you even have to ask?




(ouch, I think my mind just went KERPOOF)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: salada on 31 Oct 2006, 00:24
is there an echo in here?

maybe a reccomendations thread (or, gasp, subforum?) would keep all this stuff contained?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 00:25
Also, maybe something in a Chuch Norris would suit the gentleman?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: SpacemanSpiff on 31 Oct 2006, 00:27
Spiderland is the album you're looking for, and I really recommend it. I think it's one of the seminal black metal albums out there. You should really check out songs like "Grim And Frostbitten Demons Of Sathanis Sacrifcing Impaled Jesus On The Unholy Altar Of Don (A Man)", "Infernal Greetings And Salutations, Necrocaptain" and of course ... er ... "Nosferatu Man".
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 00:30
No, I don't think that's it.

Splinterhand?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Spinless on 31 Oct 2006, 00:37
You gotta admit, when Gryff and Kai did it, it was hilarious.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Kyros on 31 Oct 2006, 00:41
If  everyone is going to continue reccomending Spiderland i'm going to have to emplore someone to YSI or something, because i've sadly never heard this apparant masterpiece and everyone bringing it up is driving me nuts!  :lol:
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: öde on 31 Oct 2006, 00:53
Spydoorhand?
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Gryff on 31 Oct 2006, 00:53
This thread is now about songs that reference soda pop.

Let's start with 'Bone Machine' by the Pixies.

"I was talking to preachy-preach about kissy-kiss
He bought me a soda
He bought me a soda
He bought me a soda and he tried to molest me in the parking lot
Yep, yep yep yep!"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: öde on 31 Oct 2006, 00:54
What.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 31 Oct 2006, 01:20
Sob story or no, it sounds like shit.

"Sob story"?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 01:31
The Dark Side of the Moon?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: thepugs on 31 Oct 2006, 01:47
Guys, I'm pretty sure it's Arachnid Acres.  Or something.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 31 Oct 2006, 01:49
Crocodile World?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2006, 02:13
No, that album got stung by a fucking sting ray.

Or..something.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 31 Oct 2006, 02:15
Seriously now, Spiderland is an amazing album. Please stop using it as a meme like that. Really. It's fucking annoying.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 31 Oct 2006, 02:24
I'd reccomend Tara by the band Absu. It is possibly my favourite black metal album of the month.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: E. Spaceman on 31 Oct 2006, 02:29
from Ashes of American Flags by Wilco

"The cash machine is blue and green
For a hundred in twenties and a small service fee
I could spend three dollars and sixty-three cents
On Diet Coca-Cola and unlit cigarettes"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 31 Oct 2006, 02:30
I did not see that coming.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Gryff on 31 Oct 2006, 02:34
Sonic Youth -- 'Washing Machine'

"Yeah, I take my baby down to the street and I buy him a soda-pop
He's so sweet"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 31 Oct 2006, 02:39
I quite like The Idiot and Lust for Life, i also once listened to that really weird album he made, Avenue B, which has spoken word monologues on being old and shit. I thought it was amusing but not something i'd listen to more than once.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: rynne on 31 Oct 2006, 02:40
Could someone recommend me some "recommend me some..." threads?? I'm looking for something like the thread I want to read, but a bit more not like it.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 31 Oct 2006, 02:40
Eagles of Death Metal - "Cherry Cola"

"I can be your daddy, be your rock-and-roll-ah /
You can be my sugar, be my cherry cola /
Ooooh, Cherry Cola!"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 31 Oct 2006, 02:49
Try this one (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,13243.0.html).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: timehat on 31 Oct 2006, 02:54
It is great, but are you sure that said activity isn't being done out of respect/admiration? Not to say that it is, because it's the fucking internet and I haven no idea when sarcasm is being employed.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 31 Oct 2006, 02:57
There is no queston that we love Spiderland. In fact, this little recommendation joke has actually convinced a few people to seek the album out. Which is nice.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 31 Oct 2006, 03:09
i think i'd have to recommend there self titled album
also spiderland's second album slint is quite good
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 31 Oct 2006, 03:12
no i can't...i'm deaf
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: salada on 31 Oct 2006, 03:32
(http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/f/f5/Howdoishotweb.jpg/120px-Howdoishotweb.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: *Sights* on 31 Oct 2006, 04:26
If this Spiderland thing is done again, the universe will collapse.

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the universe will collapse
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the universe will collapse
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the universe will collapse
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the universe will collapse
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the universe will collapse
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the universe will collapse
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the universe will collapse
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COLLAPSE
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 31 Oct 2006, 05:44
Robbie Williams > Slint
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 31 Oct 2006, 05:48
I think it's funny that they sold most of their musical equipment on eBay after their reunion shows.

 :-D
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Rizzo on 31 Oct 2006, 05:56
"I'm in your noun, verbing your different noun"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Slick on 31 Oct 2006, 06:19
Man I hate the internet, just because of the word meme.

A single unit of cultural information. Such an awesome word. I liked to use it when a good reason came up, it's a good concept. But that is not what a meme is viewed as now. A meme is chuck norris' anal prolapse. A meme is motherfucking snakes on a motherfucking plane.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Inlander on 31 Oct 2006, 06:22
I'd recommend some Sodastream (http://www.sodastream.net.au/).
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 31 Oct 2006, 06:37
in my mind, the most famous soda reference:

Anytime I need to see your face
I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place where your crystal mind and
Magenta feelings take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chic-a-cherry cola

-Savage Garden, I Want You.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 31 Oct 2006, 06:37
Memes are in your internet, soiling your denotations.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Gryff on 31 Oct 2006, 06:40
"I met her in a club down in old soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola
C-o-l-a cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said lola
L-o-l-a lola lo-lo-lo-lo Lola"

The Kinks, dudes.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 06:46
YO MAMMAS a neologism sociology boy!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 07:13
Haaang on, why did you go and choose a band with notoriously bad lyrics? Pure chance?

Anyway, what your saying is, you have no imagination? that, say you could derive no satisfaction whatsoever from, say, reading a Dickens novel, because you have not experienced life in the 19th century? You have no ability whatsoever to extrapolate emotional responses from aesthetics and imagery? You're saying that basically you are trapped in a sort of hellish now, with no real conception of the world outside what you've experienced? What you're saying is that music must somehow apply directly to the audience, so that you can only listen to Bob Dylans pre-electric albums if you were around in the sixties folk scene? After all, you know, I've never experienced the conditions as they were at that time, so none of that stuff really has any applicability to me, you know? I only listen to music about being middle class and white and going to a private school.

Could it perhaps not be that any fantastical imagery, into which emotions are projected, easily has the potential to give more to a far wider range of people than any song about an extremely specific incident ever could? Could it not be that the use of mythic archetypes is based around visceral stimulation of our folk-culture memory? Could it not be that some lyrics in fact disguise very serious messages under a thin veil of fantasism? Could it not be that some people have aspirations beyond a drab reflexive eternal now and, rightly dissatisfied with the state of the world, seek out music and artforms which lets them imagine other realities that might inspire them to set and reach their goals in this world? Could it not be that the use of imagined real world and historical settings also allows us to reflect on the human condition, even if the main purpose is only for visceral entertainment.

Also, you must reflect, if you quote lyrics and shit and talk about authenticity or how it speaks or anything, on the most entirely succint and meaningful lyric of any song. One second long.

Napalm Death - You Suffer

You suffer, but why?
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 07:29
"They're making the last film
They say that it's the best
And we all helped make it
It's called "The Death of the West"
The kids from Fame will all be there
Free Coca-Cola for you
And Eurodisney is here
Just for me and you"

Sol Invictus - Death of the West
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Johnny C on 31 Oct 2006, 07:32
Okay, but mine wins for sheer rocking.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Kai on 31 Oct 2006, 07:40
Yeah, THe Idiot and Lust for Life are all I have.


Stooges were better.



Fun House = love.

Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: Slick on 31 Oct 2006, 07:49
Standing on the corner you see her cutting a deal
Windows rolled down you can't believe she's for real
She's the one, she ain't no joke,
She's got lips, lips, just like cherry coke

Here comes Annalee


Annalee - Nerfherder
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 31 Oct 2006, 08:20
I was at a party that played a Sum 41 album all the way through THREE TIMES a few days ago.
It had poppy punk, metal and a saxaphone solo.

The first album, Half Hour Of Power, has a song with a superbly executed horn section in it. As well it was easily their most diverse album and certainly their best. Is this what you are referring to? Three times may be too much but I am unashamed of that record being a collection of my anthems when I was thirteen. Does This Look Infected and Chuck are pretty much totally awful, though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 31 Oct 2006, 08:26
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I've been listening to waaaayyyy too much music that does not have Iggy Pop in it and I want something more in the vein of Iggy Pop right now.   I'd like something with pop-minded musical arrangemens but nothing obnoxiously twee or lyrically saccharine.  Recommend away and I'll put BitTorrent to work!  Thanks in advance.

Hahahahahhahaha...... die.
Title: Re: Recommend me some Soda Pop
Post by: The Hammered on 31 Oct 2006, 08:53
"I met her at the Burger King
Fell in love by the soda machine"

- The Ramones, "Oh Oh I Love Her So"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Hammered on 31 Oct 2006, 08:55
There is no queston that we love Spiderland. In fact, this little recommendation joke has actually convinced a few people to seek the album out. Which is nice.

I will probably doing this some time soon, in case any of you need some more justification.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 31 Oct 2006, 09:23
I think it's funny that they sold most of their musical equipment on eBay after their reunion shows.

 :-D

I thought it was a really good gesture. Pretty much saying 'that's all folks, Slint its done'
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: edgyswingsetacid on 31 Oct 2006, 09:45
how the fuck did jawbreaker end up taking on the entire black metal genre? and based on what? personal tastes, and the song fireman? fireman? that is a terrible song from a shit record. talk about unfun, or bivouac, or 24 hour revenge therapy, but dont let fucking dear you represent jawbreaker's entire body of work. besides, it doesn't really seem to me that tommy was aiming to discredit black metal at all, but i'll refrain from attempting to speak for him. . .

as well, everyone knows that the sex pistols' place in punk history is solid, just as jawbreaker's is. hey, it's not the fucking 70's anymore. as everything everywhere does all the time, punk has grown and changed, and just because jawbreaker isn't a band from the 1970's uk does not make them any less such. i just got back from a three day fest where i personally saw over 40 punk bands out of the 100+ featured, with only a small fraction sounding remotely like the sex pistols. according to the logic used up to this point, this would make them really really not punk, but im sure the thousands of people that listen to that shit would disagree. as well, i think you'd be hard pressed to find an anarcho punk who thinks that the sex pistols were anything more than a joke or a crock of shit.

like i said, three day punk fest. . . im very hungover and in great pain, so ive gotta cut outta here and hit the sack.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 31 Oct 2006, 09:52
you could derive no satisfaction whatsoever from, say, reading a Dickens novel?

Napalm Death - You Suffer

You suffer, but why?

I could derive no satisfaction from Dickens because I think Dickens is shit.

Also, I prefer the sentiment in Brakes' ten-second "Cheney":

Cheney, stop being such a dick.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 31 Oct 2006, 09:58
POSTING IN A LEGENDARY MEME
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 31 Oct 2006, 09:59
Sorry. That was weak boarding.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 31 Oct 2006, 10:05
I think the amusing thing is Mayhem's lyrics started to get better and the music got a whole lot worse, look at Grand Declaration of War.

Since when do you need lyrics to develop an emotional connection to the music.  The record that affects me the most when I listen to it is "Geliebte Des Regens" the entire thing thing is in German, I don't give two shits what he's singing about because the music is so charged. same thing with Burzum, ironically I think Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is one of the best lyrics I've read.


If The Light Takes Us:

A glade in the wood
Where the sun shines
Between the trees we are imprisoned
In this God's glade It burns it scorches
When the light licks our flesh
Goes toward the sky a smoke
A cloud of our form
Prisoners of the burials
Tormented by God's goodness
No flame no hate
They were right we have come to Hell


Obviously this is the English translation of the lyrics.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 31 Oct 2006, 10:07
@Kharbevnor- You realize you threw the first stone here, don't you?  One thing you must realize about me is that I'm very sarcastic.  If it seems I'm insulting you or your tastes, I probably don't mean it.  I'm sorry if I didn't communicate that, as the internet only allows for a very limited range of inflections and emphasis.  You're right, I don't know jack shit about black metal.  I know I dont like it, but I don't fault you for listening to it.  The only reason I said "You listen to black metal, so I don't care what you think," is because you insulted my taste.  Yeah, some of Jawbreaker's stuff is standard punk fare, but some of it is simply divine.  I ran across some really good Jawbreaker on Last fm.  I can't make you like them, and since you listen to about a gazillion more bands than I do, you can probably claim superior musical taste.  In fact, Jawbreaker isn't even one of my favorite bands, but I do like them.  I shouldn't have even brought up Nirvana, as they're so easy to insult.  All I can say about Joy Divison is that Ian Curtis was even worse at singing than Kurt Cobain.  And yeah, I listen to gangsta rap.  I'm a white suburban teenager who entertains fantasies of becoming a wealthy drug mogul who rides with 24 inch rims. 
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Slick on 31 Oct 2006, 10:41
POSTING IN A LEGENDARY MEME
POSTING IN A LEGENDARY MEME
A LEGENDARY MEME
MEME
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 31 Oct 2006, 10:54
OK I know I'm a little late on this but Joy Division is FAR better than Nirvana.

Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 31 Oct 2006, 10:56
oh and gangsta rap is often rather delightful in a completely non-novelty way.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 31 Oct 2006, 11:18
OK seriously, everyone stop fucking doing that. It wasn't funny the first time, now it's just irritating.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 31 Oct 2006, 12:02
but what is gangsta rap?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 31 Oct 2006, 12:05
...burninating the country side, burninating the peasants. burninating the villages...AND THEIR THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 31 Oct 2006, 12:43
(http://allyourbase.planettribes.gamespy.com/zerowing.gif)

HEY GUYS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 31 Oct 2006, 12:50
(http://home.zonnet.nl/cozijn24/Yes%20-%20Close%20to%20the%20edge%20-%20Front.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 31 Oct 2006, 13:03
but what is gangsta rap?

slaps head in disgust but still leaves it for khar to explain
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 31 Oct 2006, 13:04
i just got back from a three day fest where i personally saw over 40 punk bands out of the 100+ featured, with only a small fraction sounding remotely like the sex pistols.

Man, you went to The Fest V. I am envying you so hard right now.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jeph on 31 Oct 2006, 13:47
Spiderland is the post-rock equivalent to Sgt. Pepper's.

If you don't learn it by heart you are a failure at indie rock.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jeph on 31 Oct 2006, 13:49
Hey guess what guys, this isn't some(inion) other(inion) shitty(inion) forum(inion)!

Stop being retards or I'll wipe the whole thing clean.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 15:04
as well, everyone knows that the sex pistols' place in punk history is solid, just as jawbreaker's is. hey, it's not the fucking 70's anymore. as everything everywhere does all the time, punk has grown and changed, and just because jawbreaker isn't a band from the 1970's uk does not make them any less such. i just got back from a three day fest where i personally saw over 40 punk bands out of the 100+ featured, with only a small fraction sounding remotely like the sex pistols. according to the logic used up to this point, this would make them really really not punk, but im sure the thousands of people that listen to that shit would disagree. as well, i think you'd be hard pressed to find an anarcho punk who thinks that the sex pistols were anything more than a joke or a crock of shit.

It's not really the point. At no time did I claim Jawbreaker weren't punk because they specifically don't sound like the Sex Pistols. I made two seperate claims: one, that the Sex Pistols really are an important and legitimate punk band, despite what 'anarcho punks' may think (seriously, what the fuck is an anarcho punk? I have anarchist politics and I listen to punk. The fact that The Sex Pistols don't have legitimate anarchist politics doesn't really bother me: neither do 99% of every band in history). And two, that Jawbreaker are boring and lacking in the balls department. If you want to listen to new punk listen to Leftover Crack or something.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 31 Oct 2006, 15:39
And look at the bands that are 'anarchist' punk - Against Me! anyone? "Baby I'm An Anarchist" is about as anarchist as my trousers, even if it is a funny song to listen to. Music doesn't need to be political to be good. I still don't really like the Sex Pistols that much, though, although I will admit that they a) have some brilliant songs and b) they did spark off a huge movement in England.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: TrueNeutral on 31 Oct 2006, 15:57
I think the most annoying meme would probably be the whole ORLY thing.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 16:42
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 {o,o}
 |)__)
 -"-"-
O RLY?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: TrueNeutral on 31 Oct 2006, 17:22
more like
(http://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/0o_blaarggag.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: arcturus on 31 Oct 2006, 20:27
Arcturus in their early days did some black metal. Diabolical Masquerade is black metal but has experimented with some other styles. 
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 31 Oct 2006, 21:38
Everyone recommends Slint for everything.  You can't visit this board and not listen to Slint.  I'm gonna recommend Clann Zu because they are not Slint.  I like Slint, but everyone likes Slint.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 22:17
I don't like Slint. I don't hate them, but I don't really like them.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 31 Oct 2006, 22:20
Dig Up Her Bones isn't a Danzig-era track.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 31 Oct 2006, 23:31
Who the fuck are Slint?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 31 Oct 2006, 23:47
I'm just saying that using an album like Spiderland as a meme, on any board, diminishes the value of the album.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 01 Nov 2006, 00:23
You can't visit this board and not listen to Slint.

So what, do I have to pay a toll or some shit?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 01 Nov 2006, 01:08
Swallow The Sun. THAT is depressing.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 01 Nov 2006, 01:10
How exactly is the "value" of the album diminished?

Four or five people on a message board making a joke about reccomending an album... Yeah, that'll just destroy the record for everyone. Is it really that serious? Is this music forum really that painfully, tiresomely serious?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: amok on 01 Nov 2006, 01:37
Yeah, I picked up a copy after it replaced the loveable Anal Cunt as the token answer in recommendations threads from people who can't be arsed to think and it's actually really good. :mrgreen:

There is no queston that we love Spiderland. In fact, this little recommendation joke has actually convinced a few people to seek the album out. Which is nice.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: amok on 01 Nov 2006, 01:37
While Heaven Wept. They're not 'goth' in the slightest but they're metal and unhappy, and all the other good answers were taken.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: tacroy on 01 Nov 2006, 01:38
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Memes are in your internet, soiling your denotations.

I'M IN UR FORUMS, STEALING UR WOW REFERENCES
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 01 Nov 2006, 02:40
I guess I just dont like using my favorite albums as punch lines.

Or maybe I should shut up more often.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Soidanae on 01 Nov 2006, 02:41

I bet Arsis would destroy their minds.

Please tell me you don't mean the handbell group.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 01 Nov 2006, 03:22
I don't really see how this stuff is destroying that album, in fact I think if anything it's making people curious enough to want to hear it. I know it worked on me. I had never heard that record even though I walked past it about a million times when I worked at a record store. Anyways, so I picked up the record finally and I thought it was ok, but not really anything to get excited about.

Point being, I probably would've never sought it out to begin with if it wasn't for these punchlines.  :-D
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 01 Nov 2006, 03:26
I'd reccomend Tara by the band Absu. It is possibly my favourite black metal album of the month.

Agreed. 8-)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: El Opium on 01 Nov 2006, 05:12
I fart in the internets general direction-when I get ma' voodoo chainsaw.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gryff on 01 Nov 2006, 05:30
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c278/gazmund/applause.gif)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Spartan Pho3nix on 01 Nov 2006, 05:48
"aranei terra"
is the name of the album
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Nov 2006, 07:06
Is there some way I can trade listening to Slint for maybe listening to 2 other forum favourite bands? What if I listen to Skyclad and Broken Social Scene? Will that do?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Cartilage Head on 01 Nov 2006, 07:09
El Opium,
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 01 Nov 2006, 07:14
Is there some way I can trade listening to Slint for maybe listening to 2 other forum favourite bands? What if I listen to Skyclad and Broken Social Scene? Will that do?

I'd assume so, especially since both are vastly superior to Slint.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 01 Nov 2006, 07:38
I'd reccomend Tara by the band Absu. It is possibly my favourite black metal album of the month.

Agreed. 8-)



It is pretty great, isn't it?


PILLARS OF MERCY!!!!


but... I prefer Spiderland, by a lot.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: rynne on 01 Nov 2006, 07:57
Sir, you sound like you may enjoy the band Squirrel Bait. They were a totally awesome punk band from Louisville in the 80s. Great, great stuff.

Unfortunately, they broke up after their second album and none of the band members have done anything noteworthy since.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: edgyswingsetacid on 01 Nov 2006, 08:33
khar: well, from what i can gather, you pretty much banned jawbreaker from punx, which was a move based solely on your opinion on jawbreakers sound, and the sound that a punk band should have, and judging from your punk recommendations, which consist mostly (seven out of eight) of punk bands from the 1970's uk, a punk band should sound like one of those from the 1970's uk. it's a bit of a stretch, i'll admit, but it's a point that i wanted to make. as well, the illegitimacy of the sex pistols' message and all, though somewhat irrelevant and extraneous, was another. And i realize that most bands do not have legitimate politics, but some do. those are the ones i listen to. also, most bands do not gain a fanbase by preaching about the counter culture and anarchy, only to sell it out. this brings us to against me, supersheep.

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And look at the bands that are 'anarchist' punk - Against Me! anyone?

they are not an anarcho punk band. sure, they garnered shitloads of support from the d.i.y. punk scene and got to where they are now by writing songs about anarchy and all things associated, but they quickly killed that good thing and signed to one of the major labels they once fought against. thus, and for the same reason why i don't listen to the sex pistols, i don't listen to against me. and yeah, you're right in thinking that music does not have to be political to be good. half the bands i listed in this thread alone don't say shit about it. but, if a band decides to have their politics define their music, then i would prefer them to actually believe in those politics.

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If you want to listen to new punk listen to Leftover Crack or something.

i do listen to leftover crack. besides, jawbreaker isn't even new, they broke up ten years ago.

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seriously, what the fuck is an anarcho punk?

when i say anarcho punk, i mean people who don't believe in the system and therefore do not allow their lives to be used to further it. drifters, squatters, people who don't eat processed and artificial foods and don't buy from harmful corporations, don't watch t.v., who eat from dumpsters and hitch rides. people who believe in and practice the politics they preach. the band crass as opposed to the sex pistols.

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Man, you went to The Fest V. I am envying you so hard right now.

yeah, it was fucking nuts. its the one time of the year when it pays to live in florida. you should go to the next one, dude, totally fucking worth it. i had a friend fly in from arizona, and i met kids from north carolina, indiana, new york . . . . myself and a few friends drove 5 hours for the thing.

i think we've just shown why no one should ever try to discuss punk music. it always dissolves into senseless arguing.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 01 Nov 2006, 09:35
http://www.myspace.com/moroseros

I figured this would be good enough for a laugh for some of you.  Basically take Q and Not U and any bad Victoy pop-rock/pop-punk act and you'd get these guys.

(and, christ no, this isn't spam. Just thought I may want to clarify that)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ielerol on 01 Nov 2006, 10:21
BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER





MUSHROOM MUSHROOM
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: crotch rot on 01 Nov 2006, 10:57
i wish victory was still a good label.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 01 Nov 2006, 10:58

I bet Arsis would destroy their minds.

Please tell me you don't mean the handbell group.


No, I mean the death metal band.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Nov 2006, 11:27
AH SNAKE AH SNAKE

SNAAAAAAAKE OH SNAKE OOOHHHHH IT'S A SNAKE
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 01 Nov 2006, 11:55
Hmm. The song in the video isn't really that bad, but it's nothing I'd listen to normally. It reminded me a bit of Sonic Youth for some reason, but not as interesting.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Craig on 01 Nov 2006, 14:30
Hey guys, I was just wondering if anybody knew of any other music around like Belle and Sebastian's "Night Walk".

It's really good music when I want to have an afternoon nap or for when I'm studying, and it just kinda makes me sit back and go "Wow...Everything is right with the world".

I have alot of George Winston, however you can't just listen to the same piano pieces all of the time!

So, any ideas?

(Oh, another good one is "Sunshine And Clouds And Everything Proud" By CYHSY)

Augie March's "Sunset Studies" is a nice, quiet album that helps you relax. For actually going to sleep, I recommend Lisa Miller's "Car Tape." Can't really help with the studying thing. I was one of those annoying smegheads that could just sit in class, absorb the information, and then walk into the exam, do it, walk out, and end up getting a much better than average mark. However, for "Gee, the world is pretty ace, isn't it?" music, I recommend "This Beautiful Life" by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, or pretty much anything by Even (http://www.even.com.au). Or "The New Transistor Heroes" by the now sadly defunct Bis...
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 01 Nov 2006, 14:47
I've gotta say that seeing the continual Spiderland references has made me want to track down the album - I am actually doing so at the moment. So that is a good thing, yeah?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 01 Nov 2006, 14:53
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seriously, what the fuck is an anarcho punk?
when i say anarcho punk, i mean people who don't believe in the system and therefore do not allow their lives to be used to further it. drifters, squatters, people who don't eat processed and artificial foods and don't buy from harmful corporations, don't watch t.v., who eat from dumpsters and hitch rides. people who believe in and practice the politics they preach. the band crass as opposed to the sex pistols.
OK, I'm pretty sure that Khar will agree with me here - that is NOT what makes you an anarchist. Anarchism is about your politics, not your lifestyle. Of course there are a lot of anarchists within the whole crusty/freegan/squatter movement, but you can be an anarchist and still buy stuff - the most important part of anarchism (IMO) is building communities inside the system. There's no point preaching to the converted. The reason I think Against Me! aren't anarchist is because of "Baby I'm An Anarchist" - the culmination of 150 years of struggle is not a broken window in a coffee shop.
I don't wanna derail this thread and turn it into POLITICS EET FUCK though, so I will refrain from commenting further upon this.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: öde on 01 Nov 2006, 15:08
Do not eat, drink or sleep until you have a copy of Spiderland.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 01 Nov 2006, 16:09
^ Full agree. I believe in evolution not revolution. To be frank, though I admit it may be a much freer way of living in some ways, the full 'opt out' never really made sense to me politically or in any other way. By placing yourself completely outside the system, you lose any ability you have to change it, but you don't really affect the systems ability to censure you via the agency of the police. And it isn't really freedom, because you're still allowing the system to define your existence: just by omission. It does seem awfully attractive sometimes though.

Tommy: if you don't understand the theory of property within anarchy (which it seems you do not) then do not comment on that.

Yeah, only teenagers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR7dNntU5oI)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 01 Nov 2006, 16:29
I am no longer a teenager, and I am an anarchist. So there Tommy. Now you must revise your statement HAHA! Thpppt bleah. Also, possessions /= property. (Anarchist definition of property is means of production, not personal belongings.)

Also, kudos to Khar for putting the problem with "opting out" much better than I did.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 01 Nov 2006, 16:33
You have met me via the intertubes, so ha! Also, if I lived with my parents it would mean a sixty mile commute to college everyday in hella traffic, so no.
Just as a matter of interest, what would you think would be give someone a credible claim to be an anarchist?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 01 Nov 2006, 16:50
FIGHTING THE MAN SINGLE HANDED AND WINNING!!1!1!

I don't quite get your 'credible claim' thing. Anarchy is a political position, a spectrum of beliefs on the political compass. Lets imagine some other terms put there: 'I've never met anyone with a credible claim to being a conservative', 'I've never met anyone with a credible claim to being a vegetarian', 'I've never met anyone with a credible claim to being a fascist', 'I've never met anyone with a credible claim to being a christian', 'I've never met anyone with a credible claim to being a cat lover'.

It's a facetious statement. You can't evaluate someone elses belief in a cause or ideal, and you can't judge via peoples actions either. Especially if, as I suspect, you do not have a clear or exact concept of  the system of thought you are referring to. Like if you thought vegetarians couldn't eat bread. It's like the people who tell me I'm not a pagan because I don't wear a toga and worship at a temple of Diana, or some bollocks like that. The worst thing about such people is that, in a large amount of cases, they hold themselves to have a greater insight into the ideas and philosophies than the people who actually hold them, who are of course self-delusional idiots because they believe something that the person does not believe or understand.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 01 Nov 2006, 17:05
Man, Games Workshop employees as anarchists? Seriously? Cos, like, the Imperium is soooo anarchist...
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 01 Nov 2006, 17:09
i wish victory was still a good label.

Victory was never a good label. It's had one or two good bands over the years I'll give you that, but come on, One Life Crew? The only change is that these days Victory's nothing but crap without the occasional Deadguy record to break things up. Sadly unlike Revelation, which used to be awesome but is now utter drivel.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 01 Nov 2006, 19:01
its not like no one saw this coming.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 01 Nov 2006, 19:02
They probably play orc.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 01 Nov 2006, 19:08
Hmm. The song in the video isn't really that bad, but it's nothing I'd listen to normally. It reminded me a bit of Sonic Youth for some reason, but not as interesting.

Yeah, a friend that works there gave me a promo CD.  I found 2 of the songs tolerable.  That's of the whole 10 track CD.... which, I guess now that I think about it, is usually the average amount of tracks I can stomach from your basic "indie rock" band (see: the Boy Least Likely To)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 01 Nov 2006, 19:13
but what is gangsta rap?

slaps head in disgust but still leaves it for khar to explain

dude, seriously.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 01 Nov 2006, 19:23
This is my absolute favorite Victory Records-related news item ever. (http://www.punknews.org/article/16951)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: schimmy on 01 Nov 2006, 21:12
Do not eat, drink or sleep when you have a copy of Spiderland. Just listen to it until the death hits you.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2006, 23:41
Isn't Straylight Run like the only non shit-core band on Victory?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: kablaaamo on 02 Nov 2006, 00:13
Add me to the legions who are now seeking out some Slint.

......if only so I can make the joke without feeling like a poseur.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 02 Nov 2006, 00:57
No.  Victory actually has a more diverse roster than most people give them credit for.  However, the man who runs the label, Tony Brummel, is a total assbag, and their bands are treated like shit (especially the ones who take issue with Tony's business practices, who are punished by having any promotional support cut out from under them).
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: robert g on 02 Nov 2006, 01:45
I reccomend The Dicks. They were signed to both SST and Alternative Tentacles in their hey-day. I suggest you try to find their first single, and then go after the albums.

(http://homepages.nyu.edu/~alr237/dicks_hatethepolice.jpg)


their album on SST:

(http://homepages.nyu.edu/~alr237/dicks_killfromtheheart.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 02 Nov 2006, 01:54
Do sleep until you have a copy of Spiderland.

I know one thing, once you do have a copy, you'll have no problem getting any sleep whatsoever after listening to the record.

*yawn*
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 02 Nov 2006, 01:56
I've never heard one single band on the Victory label.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 02 Nov 2006, 02:28
Most are crap.  The only one I really listen to is Streetlight Manifesto.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 02 Nov 2006, 02:42
I've never heard one single band on the Victory label.

In the case of Deadguy, this is a mistake. Even the best of the rest are pretty unessential.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 02 Nov 2006, 02:46
Tommy: answers are as follows: yes; yes, but it was annulled; the one with the harelip; and yes, but joke's on them, as one of the quarters was Peruvian.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 02 Nov 2006, 02:50
but what is gangsta rap?

slaps head in disgust but still leaves it for khar to explain

dude, seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangsta_rap
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: raf on 02 Nov 2006, 03:10
Doomraiser from Italy, as classy as St. Vitus, as heavy as Electric Wizard, with the voice similar to.......Glen Danzig.
live they are awsome!!!!! pure doom some would say......but doom is a metal sub gennre and we all know that metal aint narrow minded so u dont have to b that PURE to b DOOM as FUCK !!!!!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Felix_ on 02 Nov 2006, 03:20
Doomraiser from Italy, as classy as St. Vitus, as heavy as Electric Wizard, with the voice similar to.......Glen Danzig.
live they are awsome!!!!! pure doom some would say......but doom is a metal sub gennre and we all know that metal aint narrow minded so u dont have to b that PURE to b DOOM as FUCK !!!!!

Doomraiser kick ass.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Spinless on 02 Nov 2006, 03:32
saw 3?
HD:GS:GHSDPCVJNCOSVNLKXCNF:L

Whatsamatter? First two not shitty enough? AOIRHSEOID MY BRAIN
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: edgyswingsetacid on 02 Nov 2006, 03:38
OK, I'm pretty sure that Khar will agree with me here - that is NOT what makes you an anarchist. Anarchism is about your politics, not your lifestyle. Of course there are a lot of anarchists within the whole crusty/freegan/squatter movement, but you can be an anarchist and still buy stuff - the most important part of anarchism (IMO) is building communities inside the system. There's no point preaching to the converted. The reason I think Against Me! aren't anarchist is because of "Baby I'm An Anarchist" - the culmination of 150 years of struggle is not a broken window in a coffee shop.

i wasn't trying to say that that is the only way to be an anarchist, i was describing my view of, based on my encounters of, anarcho punks. of course you can be an anarchist and still buy things. with the way things currently are, its very hard to live without doing that. but beyond that, i feel that ones lifestyle should reflect their beliefs or politics. i just think it's sort of silly for a punk to talk about their anarchist beliefs and then go buy a shirt from wal mart. i suppose it's a personal thing. i don't feel comfortable buying from harmful corporations, just as a vegetarian doesn't feel comfortable eating meat, regardless of the fact that their refusal of it will do absolutely no harm to the trade.

and about against me, have you ever heard any of their other songs? preferably pre-reinventing? like, crime, vivada vis, the ep? i dont think you should let that song define them for you. i dont think it was intended to be taken seriously. i don't even think that he was implying that the whole of the anarchist system of thought could be summarized by a brick in a starbucks window. im pretty sure that when he wrote the song, he had in mind that almost anyone who was going to hear it already knew whatever he could say on the subject, so instead, he talked about some right-on things that are fun to sing along to. i dont think tom gabel is an idiot.

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I don't wanna derail this thread and turn it into POLITICS EET FUCK though, so I will refrain from commenting further upon this.

yeah, i agree with that, so in the interests of the topic, i further recommend that everyone here listens to the pink lincolns.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: raf on 02 Nov 2006, 04:23
check out old hungarian band called MOOD !!!!!     nowdays Streochrist and Wall of Sleep
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 02 Nov 2006, 04:34
I'm amazed that nobody's mentioned OM yet.  Basically, it's Sleep's bassist and drummer picking up where they left off back when they made "Dopesmoker."  "Variations on a Theme" and "Conference of the Birds" aren't "doom" per se, but people who like doom will probably enjoy them.

Seconds to Boris, SUNN0))), Sleep, Orange Goblin, Grand Magus, Bongzilla, Ufomammut, and Witchcraft.

Also, look into Witch (J. Mascis's new project) and Bardo Pond (which isn't really doom at all, but again, is very easily accessible to doom fans).

Clearly, I am a bit more into the stoner side of doom.  That said, I fully expect to be referring back to this thread for recommendations for quite some time.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 02 Nov 2006, 04:53
Most are crap.? The only one I really listen to is Streetlight Manifesto.

Not bad... but Darkest Hour is not quite crap, at least in my opinion. 
(But Aiden is!  God, I cannot stand that group.)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 02 Nov 2006, 05:39
STEVE VS. TONY: ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN (http://www.punknews.org/article/16951)

"Victory Apples"
A Play In One Act


ACT I:[/b]

[Lights up on Tony and Steve on computers at opposite sides of the stage. Moros Eros plays in the distant background.]

TONY: (typing and speaking) PLEASE FOR TO THE PARTNERING OF OUR COMPANIES. I AM NUMBER ONE BIGGEST INDEPENDENT RECORDING AGENCY COMPANY, THE MAKING OF YOU AND ME TOGETHER "BIG MONIES" COMMENCING SOON I HOPE?

STEVE: (pause. Then, typing and speaking.) No.

[curtain]
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 02 Nov 2006, 06:00
It's spelled "EET FUK," guys. Get it right.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 02 Nov 2006, 06:02
Bugger. I knew there was something wrong.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: B0bduh on 02 Nov 2006, 06:29
Khar, you are not dismissing Jawbreaker, you are dismissing Fireman. Please listen to one of their (universally lauded) previous albums before you call them generic pop-punk. I don't know why anyone is bothering to argue with you, if that's your only perception of Jawbreaker.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 02 Nov 2006, 06:30
i liked earth crisis. i think they had heaps of cool bands but yeah now they're just jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: crotch rot on 02 Nov 2006, 06:43
i wish victory was still a good label.

Victory was never a good label. It's had one or two good bands over the years I'll give you that, but come on, One Life Crew? The only change is that these days Victory's nothing but crap without the occasional Deadguy record to break things up. Sadly unlike Revelation, which used to be awesome but is now utter drivel.

one life crew ruled.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Nov 2006, 06:47
This is my absolute favorite Victory Records-related news item ever. (http://www.punknews.org/article/16951)

That was truly wonderful.

P.S; I love Between The Buried and Me and Darkest Hour but other than that most of the bands on Victory Records (I'd like to single out Hawthorne Heights and Aiden in particular) sure could stand to suck a lot less.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Nov 2006, 07:06
There's actually a music store around my part of the Earth which has a section just for "Post-Rock," so I though that'd be the place to find "Spiderland." They didn't have it  :-( I felt like going up to the counter and lecturing them.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 02 Nov 2006, 07:07
one life crew ruled.

What, seriously? I know a few people who listen to them as a joke, but they're not even good tough guy. They're just bad racism.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 02 Nov 2006, 07:10
Because I watched, like, five live vids as well. Edgier, better, but still no good.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: crotch rot on 02 Nov 2006, 08:23


What, seriously? I know a few people who listen to them as a joke, but they're not even good tough guy. They're just bad racism.

yea, they arent really anything to take seriously, but some of the shit they talked was pertty funny.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 02 Nov 2006, 09:26
Are we still recommending punk?  I was gonna suggest Bear Vs Shark.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 02 Nov 2006, 10:02
how can you go past the obsessed, wino started the genre for god's sake
also
memory garden
electric wizard (before they got female members)
rameseses (ex-electric wizard)
sleep (As mentioned)
sunn 0)))   }check out altar a collaboration these two did
boris          }
orange goblin
bongzilla
black sabbath
nothing else comes to mind immediatly (can you tell i like the stoner side)

Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 02 Nov 2006, 14:42
although i'm not going to press the remove topic button down the bottom do you think if i said that i've had enough recomendations anyone would listen?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: supersheep on 02 Nov 2006, 16:16
Nope. There's still time for someone to recommend Spiderland again, there will probably be a discussion of some other political thing (especially if someone brings up Rock the Vote or something), there will be another recommendation, and people will still be arguing about Jawbreaker, cos that is the way of forums!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: raf on 02 Nov 2006, 17:13
everyones mentions great bands!!!! enough to get into genre easly!!!!!!
from the stoner side u can not miss KYUSS or Acrimony
and if u mention pelican or Cult of luna dont forget NEUROSIS or later Isis both dark slow and heavy in places...doom related....mayb...but cant ignore them.
going back to pure form.... REVELATION
glad u mention Obiat too.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: raf on 02 Nov 2006, 17:22
Spiderland its a must have  and then  THE FOR CARNATION with member of Slint  even more post rock more beautiful..and ...slow.........after that go to Torococoroc, Tortoise and more minimal....drone.....and u end up in Recomend me some doom section !!!!!!! beautiful!!!!!!!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 02 Nov 2006, 18:15
Oh.
Um... recomend me things that sound like that song? Or Last Caress? or is that alot of metal?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 02 Nov 2006, 18:33
can't forget warzone. raybeez r.i.p.......... heh....silly name, cool band though.
also strife and grade. victory was actually pretty cool come to think of it, then oh how that all changed.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Misereatur on 02 Nov 2006, 19:06
This a good fucking list, seriously.

Yeah, that is a great list. It even has some bands and albums I dont know and should check out. Thanks Felix.

Also, props for getting an Israeli band in there;)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 02 Nov 2006, 20:03
I kind of wish I could forget Warzone and Strife. Grade had their moments, but the only record they did that I ever feel the desire to dig out wasn't on Victory.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Slick on 02 Nov 2006, 20:05
The system works, but I have resolved to never ever ever listen to that album now.
Just like how I refused to listen to dashboard confessional so that I could make sweeping arrogant unjustified comments about them.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 02 Nov 2006, 20:09
They probably play orc.

Chaos, surely.

Is that Dicks album in print these days? All I've ever managed to track down is the retrospective Alternative Tentacles put out, which is amazing but I never saw why they didn't just make it a discography. They really ought to be up there with the greats of 80s hardcore, but for some reason they've always been regarded as secondary.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 02 Nov 2006, 22:14
. . . do you think if i said that i've had enough recomendations anyone would listen?

Lol.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 03 Nov 2006, 01:00


"Victory Apples"
A Play In One Act


ACT I:[/b]

[Lights up on Tony and Steve on computers at opposite sides of the stage. Moros Eros plays in the distant background.]

TONY: (typing and speaking) PLEASE FOR TO THE PARTNERING OF OUR COMPANIES. I AM NUMBER ONE BIGGEST INDEPENDENT RECORDING AGENCY COMPANY, THE MAKING OF YOU AND ME TOGETHER "BIG MONIES" COMMENCING SOON I HOPE?

STEVE: (pause. Then, typing and speaking.) No.

[curtain]

thunderous applause
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Ernest on 03 Nov 2006, 01:09
Well, I mean, I don't make the rules here. . .
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 03 Nov 2006, 01:44
Is there some way I can trade listening to Slint for maybe listening to 2 other forum favourite bands? What if I listen to Skyclad and Broken Social Scene? Will that do?

Just listen to Skyclad and you are absolved.

It's my cure for everything.

Do, however, limit yourself to Skyclad with Martin Walkyier.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 03 Nov 2006, 02:43

That was truly wonderful.

P.S; I love Between The Buried and Me and Darkest Hour but other than that most of the bands on Victory Records (I'd like to single out Hawthorne Heights and Aiden in particular) sure could stand to suck a lot less.

 :wink:
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 03 Nov 2006, 03:19
do you like 60s/70s singer-songwriters? (try saying that four times very quickly...)

why not try bob dylan, phil ochs, neil young, gram parsons, van morrison, tim buckley or john cale?

yeah, sure. i hardly have any Dylan stuff.... its only 4? 5? gigs of my music collection. And i'm not even wearing my Dylan shirt today, so i'm hardly a fan
er, one of my Dylan shirts
and i lost my large Dylan's sheriff badge
And i only own one book on him (a collection of academic writing) though i've read a few more
i think my point is that if there was a fight for biggest Dylan fan on this board I might be in the running

er
so those are all great guys and great bands and Van Morrison's 'Astral Weeks' makes me weep openly, and if anyone else needs non-indie pop recomendations I can make a whole list of guys like that
but its kinda something i know about
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 03 Nov 2006, 03:37
Thanks.
(Sarcasm? Compliiment? Insult? I dunno)

I will start downloading/buying as soon as I get home from work
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Anna Banana on 03 Nov 2006, 03:46
I doubt you'll like my music, but ah well.

No Doubt-ska/punk/newwave/pop/rock (and their latest album has influences of reggae and dancehall)
Red Hot Chili Peppers-hardcore funk/nu metal/punk funk/newwave
Sublime-ska/punk/reggae/hiphop/gangsta rap/surf/folk
Garbage-electric pop with an oftentimes harder sound..
Blondie-newwave/punk with oftentimes pop/rock disco influenced songs
Incubus-alternative/nu metal
Dance Hall Crashers-third wave/ska pop
Horrorpops-pop punk/rockbabilly/surf
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Anna Banana on 03 Nov 2006, 03:51
I'm really into Metric right now.... Poster of a Girl & Live It Out are good... Garbage songs like Run Baby Run, Why Do You Love Me?, Supervixen.... No Doubt-Spiderwebs, Total Hate, Sunday Morning..

Red Hot Chili Peppers-Fight Like A Brave, On Mercury, Give It Away, Around the World
Sublime-Saw Red feat. Gwen Stefani, What I Got, Doin' Time, Santeria (oftentimes heralded as the "Nirvana of ska")

Blondie-Sunday Girl, Maria

Toots and the Maytals-Monkey Man. feat Gwen Stefani, Reggae Got Soul (its rumored toots and the maytals were the first band to ever use the word "reggae")

Oh and I'm really into Queen right now too, I'm sure everyone knows who they are =P
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 03 Nov 2006, 03:54
One of the conditions of my last relationship was that I didn't like RHCP

An Aussie sketch comedy show ran a skit about how they always play the same songs. I saw a rerun from 2 years ago, and its even more relevant now!
They do have some good songs, but most of the bands on your list are hard to avoid... and with Incubus I've tried. Note: Don't recomend me nu-metal, because it is not music. Its not even anti-music. Its just wrong.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 03 Nov 2006, 03:59
hmmm...i just relized no ones recomended spiderland by slint yet
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Nov 2006, 06:34
Tommy once made a dead on speculation that Kings of Leon are accidentally RHCP.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 03 Nov 2006, 07:33
Kings of Leon are good

RHCP are like white funk. I'm not a funk fan, but i want or wanted funk, i might look into funk made by actual black people, or very talented white people
I don't know if thats racist, but it makes a certian sense
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: crotch rot on 03 Nov 2006, 07:37
INTEGRITY
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: takemeaway on 03 Nov 2006, 07:39
To answer the original question, since some of this musicry is too over my head to be able to form a reasonable response: I actually just recently made this transition. A freind of mine who i carpooled with for about six months listens predominately to hardcore and metal, and over time he managed to get me into those genres by slowly easing me from the lighter, more melodically driven stuff i liked or could stand to some of his more ridiculous favorites.

I remember at the beginning he was playing for me things like Against Me!, Bear vs shark, and Black Flag. Every once in a while he'd play something by Dillinger Escape Plan or Converge just to mess with me. Then he discovered i liked Explosions In The Sky, so he showed me Pelican and Isis. At some point, i suddenly took a liking to Minor Threat, and he spent a lil while showing me various 80's hardcore and 90's power violence bands. Some elapsed time later, an i'm liking The Locust and An Albatross. Even more elapsed time later, i went to my first Converge concert. Was teh GVIM. Most fun part is avoiding the madmen(& women) running around flinging their arms about wildly. They gotta keep the crowd in line.

Zo, if that helps. Right now my tastes are largely in the realm of post-rock, with an appreciation for pop(indie or otherwise) and hardcore/metal.

Short of having a freind with opposing musical tastes to spend a lot of time with, i'd just download like mad. Give everything a listen. Keep stuff you hate in your library, so you can check back later. Or make fun of it.

I recently discovered A Tribe Called Quest. That may help you with th hip-hop. Thas about as far as i am into that realm.

I gunna havta check out some o you people's lists, though. Clearly i got a lot to learn. : P

Thaz it fer moi.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 03 Nov 2006, 08:39
I recommend this group:

BLACKALICIOUS
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 03 Nov 2006, 08:42
I realize this is a double post, but my God that looks superb.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 03 Nov 2006, 08:57

And just for shits, check out King Crimson's In The Court of the Crimson King and/or The Power To Believe. Then start checking out Yes's pre-1980s material ("Owner of a Lonely Heart" can kiss my ass, but albums such as Close to the Edge, The Yes Album and their s/t 1969 debut, among others, are nothing short of pure aural awesome). Frank Zappa is also rather good, but despite how great he could be on one album, he could be rather shitty on another. I'd say allmusic.com is actually pretty accurate in their ratings of his albums.

I'm going to be a horrible nerd and wonder if Stephen King's Crimson King was inspired by the band. Knowning him i'm guessing 'yes'. Or Yes.
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If everyone else here insists on suggesting Slint's Spiderland to anyone and everyone asking for recomendations, then I'll have to insist on suggesting the Ramones' first album to anyone and everyone. In fact, check out bothe albums.

Thanks to the magic of the internet, i've got more Ramones then i know what to do with, including great weird shit like them doing My Back Pages. Giant files with evverything an artist has ever done = fun.

I've got a friend who knows of metal and MOR and Zappa, but i don't have THE TRUE METAL SPIRIT or whatever. And he's been promising me Iron Maiden for ages

The Hold Steady name drop the Dillinger 4/D4 alot. Are they worth it? I'll do anything the Hold Steady tells me to, so i might buy an album

If you're a fan of power-pop and you have yet to hear either Milk 'n Cookies or The Pillows, then stop wasting your time here and search those bands out! (The Pillows might be kinds tricky, seeing as they're from Japan. Check out some torrent sites, and be forewarned that everything before Please Mr. Lostman has a certain balls-lessness that was solved once the guitarist found himself a distortion pedal.)
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Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Hat on 03 Nov 2006, 09:26
I am not a metalhead by any stretch of the imagination, but getting into Iron Maiden was pretty much the best thing I ever did, musically speaking. Mostly because when I mentioned to my friends that I didn't really know much Maiden, they would beat me and make me recite all the lyrics for Rime of the Ancient Mariner hanging upside down.


Which was totally worth it.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 03 Nov 2006, 09:27
What's that?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/TheHusseinSkank/tonyvictory.jpg)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 03 Nov 2006, 09:40
Did you just insinuate that Zappa's metal?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 03 Nov 2006, 10:55
I think I'm the only person on the planet that thinks that BTBAM became the most laughable thing imaginable. 
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: crotch rot on 03 Nov 2006, 12:44
agnostic front
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: quietnow on 03 Nov 2006, 12:53
i am super diggin lady sovereign
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: timehat on 03 Nov 2006, 13:42
The system works, but I have resolved to never ever ever listen to that album now.
Just like how I refused to listen to dashboard confessional so that I could make sweeping arrogant unjustified comments about them.
Comparing Slint to Dashboard Confessional is generally a bad idea.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 03 Nov 2006, 16:50
It's lucky he's not then
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 03 Nov 2006, 16:57
Well, I doubt you're the only person who thinks that they're laughable, but your phrasing implies that they weren't always this. I'd have to say that my experience leads me to believe that this IS a solitary viewpoint. Care to expound on the matter?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 03 Nov 2006, 17:12
Did you just insinuate that Zappa's metal?

No. I mean he's snobbish about them both.
I can understand saying 'you must study to enter the land of Zappa' but not going that nuts with the land of metal
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 03 Nov 2006, 20:19
Okay, Spiderland is now officially an old joke, unfunny, not lol-worthy, defunct, an ex-meme.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 03 Nov 2006, 21:44
I think that their first album was really excellent (as generic of a statement as that is...).  The way they infused "math"-y metal with "emo"-ish influences was done really well, or at least very much to my liking, and I think the way they executed it was somewhat original. Starting with the Silent Circus (I believe that's their their second album), their stuff just started becoming boring experiments in technicality, and all of their softer breakdowns just started becoming really cheesy, poorly executed, and somewhat reminded me of any given sensitive Creed song.  It got worse from there on later albums, and now I'm pretty sure they're just a joke.

So basically, used to like them, then they became the Mars Volta of metal (over indulgent, boring, and frustrating, because they could probably do better)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Cartilage Head on 04 Nov 2006, 00:41
 I have never seen so many generic , silly bands on one list.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 04 Nov 2006, 01:11
What?  Since when are the Smoking Popes on Victory?  Victory released their live album, but that's it.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 04 Nov 2006, 01:18
(http://www.punknews.org/images/bands/nightslikethese.jpg)

Holy crap.  Those dudes all look like bad clones of each other.
Title: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Redmage913 on 04 Nov 2006, 01:29
Hey,

Could anybody suggest me some new CD's?  I just started school and have exhausted my music collection.  My favorite classic rock bands are Boston, the Doobies, Creedence, Electric Light Orchestra, George Harrison, some Grand Funk Railroad, pretty much classic rock bands with great rock instrumentals (or instrumental parts).

Can anybody help me out?

--Redmage
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: bff on 04 Nov 2006, 01:56
off the top of my head I'd go with ZZ Top and  Bon Scott era AC/DC.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Redmage913 on 04 Nov 2006, 01:59
<looks through music library> Awesome, I actually do have some ZZ Top in my library....dunno how I got it, but I'll try it out and get back to you on it.

Thanks!
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Nov 2006, 02:02
Thin Lizzy? Led Zeppeling you surely have, Deep Purple too .... Golden Earring? Saxon?
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Redmage913 on 04 Nov 2006, 02:06
got led zeppelin's 'early years' cd, played it to death.  I haven't heard of Thin Lizzy, Golder Earring, or Saxon, so I might check them out next I'm at the mall.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 04 Nov 2006, 02:10
Toto.  And Europe.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Redmage913 on 04 Nov 2006, 02:17
Also, are there any decent Electric Light Orchestra-type bands out there?  I don't care what era, I'll listen to just about anything (other than country, my roomate plays that constantly and gives me a migrane.  Top 40 country I can't stand).

Thanks in advance,
Redmage
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 02:30
I'm helping to put together a soundtrack for a shack party coming up in a few weeks, and a theme has been chosen. Rave music! That or the most danceable electronic music you can find, singing is A! OK! So recommend me some of the classic stuff.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 03:39
Some dance music maybe? Maybe some house? Or maybe even some 8-bit? Anyone?
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Nov 2006, 03:46
Uriah Heep! Nazareth! VanDenBerg?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Nov 2006, 03:47
I get the impresson that people are getting really tired of recommendation threads ...
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 03:59
As did I, but I don't know too much about this genre, and sadly, this is the only place that I can think of to look for dance music and stuff.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Nov 2006, 04:09
I wish you good luck. I can't help you, unfortunately. I don't listen to such devil music.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Gridgm on 04 Nov 2006, 04:30
i recomend anything off the album spiderland by slint
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Gridgm on 04 Nov 2006, 04:34
I haven't heard of Thin Lizzy


that is unforgivable
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Nov 2006, 04:48
The Spiderland thing is getting old, quick.

As for a good track, get the full ten minute version of 'Born Slippy' by Underworld. Ten minutes' worth of the best song rave spawned.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Nov 2006, 04:55
Steve Miller Band. Early Aerosmith, i.e. Toys In The Attic.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Nov 2006, 04:59
The Spiderland thing is getting old, quick.

.... anal cunt?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 05:01
That was one I knew I would be using, but thanks for suggesting it anyway. Maybe I should've posted what I'll already be using...
Well, so far I have Underworld, The Crystal Method, Daft Punk, some M83, and some Avalanches, but I need some more rave stuff, say for instance, Zombie Nation.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 04 Nov 2006, 05:49
Steve Miller Band
The Cars
The Who
Led Zeppelin
Deep Purple
Steeler's Wheel
The Doors
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: amok on 04 Nov 2006, 06:01
aight, first and foremost under the label of 'rave music', you need psytrance and lots of it

Man With No Name - (best album: Earth Moving The Sun)
Infected Mushroom - (The Gathering)
1200 Mics - any album
Gataka
Hallucinogen
Juno Reactor
Protoculture
Sesto Sento
Commercial Hippies
S.U.N. Project
Psytekk (the most recent stuff has the most accessible/dancy tunes on, I love it)
Astral Projection
Aphid Moon
pretty much anything off Iboga or Phonokol labels is a safe bet
also try and find the song 'final fantasy' by DNA (edit: or click right here (http://download.yousendit.com/4CAB7296657EE4CE))

if people don't mind a bit of cheese, a bit of classic 80s style synthpop might be good too, try the albums:

Rational Youth - Cold War Night Life
Elegant Machinery - A Decade Of Thoughts (pretty sure it's a best-of but it's a good un)
Lavantgarde - Inside Out
The Nine - Dreamland has a few decent tunes on it (tracks 6, 9 & 10 are personal favourites)
then anything by Anything Box, Cause & Effect, De/Vision, N.Ever.Endless, Neuropa, Tycho Brahe

or some more Futurepop-y tunes along the lines of Seize - Unbreakable; Epsilon Minus - 80s Boy; Apoptygma Berzerk - Eclipse; Code 64 - Leaving Earth; Covenant - Bullet; VNV Nation - Epicentre; Syrian - 'Vision' or 'She Is The Dark'; Nevarakka - Desire; Neuroticfish - The Bomb

sorry for typing a fuckin' essay, I'm drunk and gay for synthpop. post/pm if you want anything uploaded
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 06:20
Wow, that's a wealth of material I need to check out. Thanks amok. In response, any singles off those albums I should definately use? I might not have time to listen to all of that. By singles I mean the most danceable tracks, as I'm catering to an audience of not-very-diverse tastes. Thanks.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 06:24
Oh, and Tycho Brahe? The cartoon character from Penny Arcade has his own band? His own electronic band?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: amok on 04 Nov 2006, 06:34
Aight, I'll go back through and do single tracks :D shoulda thought of that really. Haha.

Everyone thinks of the Penny Arcade guy when I pimp Tycho Brahe :( he was a really cool astronomer too! Band unrelated to both. Fortunately, since one is dead and the other's artistic merit is questionable :D

psytrance:

Man With No Name - Vavoom; Seratonin Sunrise
Infected Mushroom - Cities Of The Future
1200 Mics - Ecstacy; Mescaline; Acid For Nothing (9-minute trance remix of 'Money For Nothing' by Dire Straits, what :D)
Gataka - Blast From The Past
Hallucinogen - LSD
Juno Reactor - Navras (made famous by the rave scene in the Matrix)
Protoculture - Silicon Sunrise
Sesto Sento - Dive To Drive
Commercial Hippies - If You Can't Stand The Heat
S.U.N. Project - don't know many by name, get anything really
Psytekk - Space Syndrome
Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy
Aphid Moon - K-9
pretty much anything off Iboga or Phonokol labels is a safe bet
also try and find the song 'final fantasy' by DNA (edit: or click right here (http://download.yousendit.com/4CAB7296657EE4CE))

synthpop:

Rational Youth - City Of Light
Elegant Machinery - To Live
Lavantgarde - Not Enough
The Nine - Breeze; I Won't (Album Version)
Tycho Brahe - Sanctity
De/Vision - Subtronic
N.Ever.Endless - Never Endless
Anything Box - Soul On Fire
Neuropa - New Faith

or some more Futurepop-y tunes along the lines of Seize - Unbreakable; Epsilon Minus - 80s Boy; Apoptygma Berzerk - Eclipse; Code 64 - Leaving Earth; Covenant - Bullet; VNV Nation - Epicentre; Syrian - 'Vision' or 'She Is The Dark'; Nevarakka - Desire; Neuroticfish - The Bomb

Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: MusicScribbles on 04 Nov 2006, 06:49
Can anyone upload Sandstorm by Darude? And any 8-bit recommendations?
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 04 Nov 2006, 07:33
Journey, Forigener, Meat Loaf (or is it Meatloaf?), Blue Oyster Cult, Van Morrison, SPRINGSTEEN
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Splunkle on 04 Nov 2006, 09:49
For 8 bit stuff, one of your stopping places should be 8bitpeoples (http://www.8bitpeoples.com/).? I haven't listened to much of their stuff, so I'm don't know all the dance the dancey stuff, but PICOPICODISCO (http://www.8bitpeoples.com/discography_gfx.php?artist=USK#8BP062) by USK is preety damn awesome.

Ummmmmmmm... if you want rave music, shouldn't you have some, Happy Hardcore or Eurobeat or something similarly silly? I'm not down with the scene, so I don't know anything to reccomend, but it just seems to be a necessity.  You may also find Ishkur's Guide to EDM (http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html) to be handy.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 04 Nov 2006, 10:02
I think the best rave music is BOOMTSCHIKABOOMTSCHIKABOMBOMBOMBABABOMBOMBOMBABA
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Johnny C on 04 Nov 2006, 10:05
No later Springsteen than Born In The U.S.A., though.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 04 Nov 2006, 11:14
Ha, whatever. I grabbed a copy of Sheik Yerbouti after listening to one song in a class that's not even on that album. I think it rocks. I don't get people who are pretentious about music... and especially his music. Basically, it's good if you have a sense of humor.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 04 Nov 2006, 11:43
What i've heard I love, and i've got a greatest hits
i mean... i'm obsessed with Dylan, but i'm tottally ok with telling people 'pick up a Greatest Hits or Blonde on Blonde and you'll understand' and not YOU WILL NOT APPREICATE THE TRUE GENIUS

then again, it is Zappa
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 04 Nov 2006, 11:45
If you have Born To Run, you won't need any album for a while

I know i'm reaching Slint levels with this, but once you've listened to alot of classic rock get into The Hold Steady, who do interesting things with classic rock (give it better lyrics basically)

back to real classic rock.... Kansas, Eric Clapton, 'Derek and the Dominos' (which is the band Eric put together that did the album iwth 'Layla' on it, which was written to seduce George Harrison's wife... and succeeded), The Eagles, Steve Miller, Warren Zevon, Aerosmith....
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 04 Nov 2006, 12:15
Introducing people with a Greatest Hits really isn't a bad idea, especially if the artist in question is as prolific as those two are. It's nice going "Okay, I like these songs the best, and they are from this later period of work" so then you can get albums from that time and maybe work backward or something if you really like them too.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: pat101 on 04 Nov 2006, 12:55
I was listening to the two DFA remix albums I could see them translating to a rave-like-setting quite well.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: TynansAnger on 04 Nov 2006, 14:19
For Iggy Pop solo albums, Lust for Life and The Idiot are the essentials. I'd also recommend Soldier, even though that does not compare to the first two. One that often slips through the cracks which I would highly recommend is the Kill City Soundtrack. Officially listed as an album by Iggy Pop and James Williamson (the guitarist of Raw Power-era Stooges), it was Iggy in between the Stooges, his solo career and rehab, but it finds him experimenting with keyboards, weird melodies, and other new styles that would come in his late 70s solo albums.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: elcapitan on 04 Nov 2006, 15:53
It's a sad state of affairs that rave makes me think "candy raver" not "summer of love." But in any case, you absolutely cannot have a "rave party" without copious quantities of music by Underworld, The Prodigy and Orbital.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 04 Nov 2006, 17:40
just put on the "homework" record by daft punk really loud and on repeat. it may not be rave but its very fun and will make people happy. and in the end, isn't that what we all want?

also, seeing as this is the music thread bit of the forum, isn't it ok for people to ask for recommendations on various types of music? though, i can understand that it gets annoying when someone starts slagging off bands and then their fans defend them to the death and it keeps going on and on in circles-the jawbreaker debate for example. but i think its nice to help people out if they want to get into something different. oh well, whatever.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 04 Nov 2006, 17:59
I have never seen so many generic , silly bands on one list.

there were a few good ones there, er the older ones i mean. the newer bands being signed are just fucking hopeless.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: a pack of wolves on 04 Nov 2006, 18:12
How could I have forgotten about Path of Resistance? So bad, yet so so good.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Nov 2006, 18:18
Why does it have to be rave? There's plenty of indie-dance stuff that's great for dancing to even if it's not rave. 'Step On' by the Happy Mondays, the 12-inch version of 'Fool's Gold' by Stone Roses, 'Loaded' by Primal Scream...

And if you don't have all ten minutes of 'Born Slippy,' you suck!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Nov 2006, 18:21
Not to nitpick, tommy, but Hawthorne Heights aren't on Victory anymore. Actually, they're suing them!

I'd hope one can file a suit against a label for "making us sound like complete shit, even though to be honest, we are".
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 04 Nov 2006, 21:16
Honestly, that is one thing I've always noticed about Victory.   I don't know what they use in the recording studio, but everything, production wise, always sounds like complete ass compared to earlier recordings.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: TrueNeutral on 04 Nov 2006, 21:51
I dunno, I'm not really clear on what is 'classic rock'... Neil Young count?
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 04 Nov 2006, 23:33
Wishbone Ash !!!
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Jimmy Balls-O-Steel on 05 Nov 2006, 01:13
These following Yes albums have my seal of approval:

Close to the Edge (a.k.a. one of the best goddamn albums EVER!!!!)
The Yes Album
Going For The One
Fragile
Relayer
(a.k.a. the album that got me into Yes)
s/t 1969 debut

And for the record, fuck "Owner of a Lonely Heart." Why? 'Cause the 80's suck. The albums I listed date from 1969 to 1977. And if you like any/all of them, maybe then will you be ready for the onslaught of pretense known as Tales From Topographic Oceans.

Also, Black Sabbath's first six records are pure guitar-driven kick-ass! (That's right, I just used "kick-ass" as a noun.)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Nov 2006, 02:29
Between the Buried and Me aren't metal. Not even something you can have a 'what is emo?' argument about. Not metal. Nuh. Nuh-uh-uh. Elements of metal? Yes. Metal? No.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Nov 2006, 02:54
There are a few good reasons to get greatest hits albums. One is if you are going to see a band you're unfamiliar with live (say you're going for the support act) and wish to enjoy the set: the best-of is likely to contain a goodly number of songs that might be included in their set: live albums also are good (ideally better) for this, but sometimes the live albums are out of date, and in a lot of cases, except for famous live albums, they're much scarcer. For example: say you've never heard any motorhead songs except Ace of Spades, but you're going to a festival where they'll be playing. You want to get an intro to them and learn some songs without splashing out on their whole discography: you could get the fantastic 'No Sleep Till Hammersmith', but that only has songs they wrote up till '81. You'd be better off getting 'The Best of Motorhead'. I own that same album, for the second good reason to buy best-ofs: completeness. I got it because it has all three tracks from the St. Valentines Day Massacre EP (which goes for about ?20 as a vinyl 7"...superior yes and I will one day own it) and four otherwise unreleased live tracks. Plus it was like four quid. Same goes for Hawkwind: their discographies complete fucking huge and incomprehensible, and some of the (numerous) compilations/best-ofs contain otherwise extremely hard to locate material. It's like with tribute albums. I don't have a burned copy (no money to nazis lol) of Visions...A Tribute to Burzum because I like Burzum, I have it because I love Ewigkeit and it's the only place their cover of Ea, Lord of the Depths has ever appeared, to my knowledge anyway.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Nov 2006, 04:06
Well, the greatest hits thing worked the only time I ever did it (Pitchshifter), so meh. Also, with live set/best-of match-up, it probably heavily depends on the band and how the compilations been put together. If the band selected their own favourite for the best of, it's likely to match the live set more closely. Similiarly, the more obscure a band is (ie the less bona-fide 'hits' they have) the more likely a match is as well. For example, my favourite band, Skyclad: if one takes their live album (Another Fine Mess) and their first compilation/retrospective (Old Rope), you'll see 9 out of 12 songs on the first are on the second. Which is certainly a good comprimise on basically buying their entire discography, had you been new to them at one of the shows on the tour on which AFM was recorded. Good point on the latest album thing: depends on the recency of the compilation I suppose. Also, I'm mainly thinking of bands with pretty large back catalogues (8-10 albums or more). They tend to include a smaller proportion of new material because they accumulate more and more songs they pretty much have to play or the crowd kills them.  Looking at that Motorhead best-of again, I think in the times I've seen them they've probably only played six or seven tracks not on here. It is a two CD however. There's probably a core of nine or ten songs that Motorhead plays every single time they perform, which are all on this compilation, compared to newer bands that might have only one or two 'essential' tracks (to keep it on metal, for example, 3 Inches of Blood fans will only expect two songs as definites at their shows).

By the way, eye guy, you should probably listen to Motorhead, Hawkwind and 3 Inches of Blood.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Joseph on 05 Nov 2006, 04:43
No later Springsteen than Born In The U.S.A., though.

Not true at all.  I much prefer Tunnel Of Love to Born In The U.S.A., and his next few albums were very good as well, though they usually failed to live up to his earlier work.  In the new millenium, he's created amazing material.  I've yet to hear The Rising, but I've heard magnificent things.  Devils and Dust was a fantastic folky album, and his latest, The Seeger Sessions has easily been my favorite album of the year.  It is simply stunning.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jcknbl on 05 Nov 2006, 04:45
I'm pretty sure anyone who went to actual raves before they became a delapidated party cliche would be really annoyed by this thread.

Luckily that isn't me. I recomend The Best of Italo Disco Vol. II. This 80's Synth Pop trend in recomendations is going to make for a much better party too.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: End If Kris on 05 Nov 2006, 06:30
Suggestions? Track list? Post them here please. If you need to know what I am looking for It would be something classic rockish with alot of "go" in it. Something to warm up to and get pumped for a game with. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 05 Nov 2006, 07:32
in my experience, people who recommend 'greatest hits' albums are clueless.

as are people who buy them.

well... it depends on the context. For alot of classic rock/50s/60s stuff a cheap Greatest Hits is enough. I don't need every single Animals album- i need We Gotta Get Out Of This Place and House of the Rising Sun, and for $10 i get that and 25 other songs so i'm good. Same with The Monkees, the Turtles, Hermann's Hermits, etc

for Dylan, i do try to recomend albums.... but the Greatest Hits can help me figure out which era of Dylan the person is most likely to like. For tom waits i just use Rain Dogs, since it transitions between his two periods

my metalhead friend says stuff like 'you cannot appreciate metal unless you study it your whole life and know everything about every band', which i think is a bit silly
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2006, 09:47
I go to a lot of AHL games, and it seems that the music they play during warmups and between periods is just generic nu-metal and top-40 hip hop. Blech. I know that wouldn't get me pumped up, aside from wanting to kill whoever's blasting the shit over the PA.

Newish Motorhead. Fuck it, any Motorhead, ever.

3 Inches of Blood? I'd recommend them for almost any situation ever.

Ummm, pretty much any thrash band ever would help, I'd think. Maybe newer bands like Unearth and Lamb of God, as well.

As for the more classic stuff, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Sabbath, Anthrax.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Nov 2006, 10:01
I say this more or less every time a 'pump up/fight music' thread comes up:

Testament - Into the Pit

Also, Megadeth - Take No Prisoners.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 05 Nov 2006, 10:12
Just got back from MFTB, saw a couple of doom bands.

Pod People played some tracks off there forth ocmming album, sounds like it's going to be pretty good.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jcknbl on 05 Nov 2006, 10:13
Making generalizations about greatest hits collections doesn't makes sense. There are a lot of acts (usually pop or electronic ones) that aren't really about albums; they're about singles. For example, I'm a big fan of the stuff Holland-Dozier-Holland did for Motown but I'm not gonna go track down every Supremes, Four Tops, Martha and the Vandellas and Marvin Gaye record. I'm just gonna get one of the 8 hundred Motown comps.  Or take Hank Williams. All his recording was done before the idea of "the album" had really been popularized. If you're interested in his stuff you get a 40 Greatest Hits and unless you want to track down everything he's ever done you can probably stop there. I don't know if it'd be considered a greatest hits record but the Field Mice record that gets recomended (and they only one you'll ever be able to find since the initial recording weren't widely distributed and and a lot of their best stuff was on 7''s) is a compilation.

And then there are always artists who were musically important but whom you might not love enough to go buy every album they made. If that band didn't have a seminal album it makes sense to just buy a comp. Theres a huge list of artists for whom a complilation is a good recomendation.

But I totally don't think Dylan is one of them. Besides, isn't the guy just going to download what you recomend? If no one is spending money theres no reason not to recomend three albums.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: jcknbl on 05 Nov 2006, 10:17
Which is less a genre: Indie vs. Classic Rock
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 05 Nov 2006, 10:23
Yeah If you want to get pumped up thrash metal is what you are after.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Scytale on 05 Nov 2006, 10:27
If you like ELO, you'll love "Yes" and "Uriah Heep"

You'll probably also like "Rush"

If you like Deep Purple also check out the first couple of "Rainbow" albums, Richie Blackmoor with Ronnie James Dio, classic stuff.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: TheCourtJester on 05 Nov 2006, 10:45
I know this thread is old...but I OPENED for Count Basie in my hometown, Folsom, and there's no band I'd recommend before themn./

I also opened for the Chick Corea trio in North texas...their new recording are SUPERB. Their newest album is on Strech Record's label now, and it is neeeaaaaat.

I'd also recommend Digable Planets...more as sort of a fusion jazz than anything. It was really my intro into decent hip-hop. Some good artists that are pretty close would be Madlib, Beat Junkies, or Bahamadia.

And on teh more obscure list...R?yksopp. Particularly the track Psychedelish.
Yes my firends...that ever lovely and obscure genre known as ACID JAZZ. For that particular niche, I would also recommend "The Quiet Boys - Everybody Loves the Sunshine," and for the fan of John Coltrane and for a more...eh...smooth experience, "Pharoah Sanders - Astral Traveling" (you might want to get really stoned for that one, though) is eeeeexcellent.




...This is all, of course, overlooking the obvious Rat Pack members (if your don't know who they were, Google is your goddamn friend you lazy ass) and the classics whi9ch have been mentioned before this here post.

I also find New York Voices to be an easily accessible jazz group...they oerforn many songs that span across african-based jazz to big-bang style....and an awesome album of jazz compositions of songs written by Paul Simon....veeery aweome, IMO.

I am too drunk to coninue. Acarry on.


EDITR: As much as I like to get into punk, ska, indfie, whatever...Jazz is always my standard by whichb I judge all other tyhpes of music. Dunno if thatsb god or not. HE he
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 05 Nov 2006, 10:58
I can agree with that, I suppose.  I'd edit the earlier post but I don't actually care that much.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Johnny C on 05 Nov 2006, 11:58
Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong and Nat King Cole were all jazz, right?

I like them.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 05 Nov 2006, 12:20
Recommending and introducing are not the same thing. I stand by my statement stating that they're a good way to get a feel for the different sort of sounds from different eras, so long as the artist in question is prolific enough. Like Mr. Eyeball Kid said, "but the Greatest Hits can help me figure out which era of Dylan the person is most likely to like."

An example is an artist like Tom Waits, who released a bunch of albums throughout many years-Blood Money is not the same as Rain Dogs which is not the same as Closing Time. I won't (generally, there are exceptions) download songs or albums unless it's from a label or artist official site, so the "why recommend one when you can just download all of them" point is moot.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Johnny C on 05 Nov 2006, 12:41
I much prefer Tunnel Of Love to Born In The U.S.A.

I am sorry but I had trouble reading past this. It was like the "I" was a stake driven into the ground and my eyes were magnetically drawn from it, struggling to get away but only being able to get as far as "U.S.A." before being drawn back to the start again. In fact, I'm pretty sure these words are burned into my retinas just from sheer repetition.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 05 Nov 2006, 12:59
The best umm best of cd (how's that for repetition) I've seen is Gamma Ray's "Blast from the Past". I think they did it because they got fucked over by their label or something and didn't own the rights to their back catalogue. They basically re-recorded all the good songs from their early albums and released them on a double cd pack.  It's really good to hear a track like "Heading for Tommorow" with decent production and Kai Hansen on vocals. Iced Earth did a similar thing with "Days of Purgatory" (a lot of their old demo era stuff, from when the band was called 'purgatory').
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 05 Nov 2006, 16:40
Most of the stuff off Days of Purgatory is far, far better with Barlow on vocals and better sound quality. The Days of Purgatory version of Stormrider (coincidentally) is one of my favorite songs ever.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: AlexAttack on 05 Nov 2006, 16:55
some other cool stuff i'd recommend would be the directions in music record. its a live record celebrating miles davis and john coltrane. the band is herbie hancock, michael brecker, roy hargrove, john pattituci and brian blade.
john pattituci's record "now" is really cool too.
the keith jarret trio, with jack de jonet and gary peacock have some really great recordings
wayne shorter live at the vanguard is totally awesome and has scott la faro on bass.
basically i think that live jazz records are where its at.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: AlexAttack on 05 Nov 2006, 18:12
 journey, boston and kansas all rock out.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 05 Nov 2006, 18:14
don't stop believing by journey
glory of love by peter cetera
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: TrueNeutral on 05 Nov 2006, 18:20
Pearl Jam - Go works pretty well for me. Soundgarden - Ty Cobb too.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Joseph on 05 Nov 2006, 19:52
I much prefer Tunnel Of Love to Born In The U.S.A.

I am sorry but I had trouble reading past this. It was like the "I" was a stake driven into the ground and my eyes were magnetically drawn from it, struggling to get away but only being able to get as far as "U.S.A." before being drawn back to the start again. In fact, I'm pretty sure these words are burned into my retinas just from sheer repetition.

I suppose it is fairly weird to see something on these here music boards be stated as an opinion as opposed to fact.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Joseph on 05 Nov 2006, 19:57
Any recommended starting place for Sun Ra?  I've been meaning to check him out for some time, but his discography is just to extensive and intimidating.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Kai on 05 Nov 2006, 20:13
I dunno. I first was introduced to Sun Ra from a copy of Other Planes of There I found out behind a CD store in a dumpster with a bunch of other CDs. It's kinda neat.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 05 Nov 2006, 20:50
Sex Bomb - Flipper



glory of love by peter cetera


YES!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Kai on 05 Nov 2006, 20:58
I reccomend just taking Storm's and Emilio's and putting The Stooges' I Wanna Be Your Dog on repeat.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: E. Spaceman on 05 Nov 2006, 21:09
Last time we went through this we were bogged down on an argument concerning whether classic rock was defined by sound or era. Reading through this thread, it seems that it is defined by era (which is to say: Classic Rock = Dad Rock), so i guess i'll have a crack at this.

The Beatles - I think this goes without saying, but i've often ran into peoplewho haven't listened to them, or only some of the singles. My favourite on (and favourite album of ever) is Abbey Road, but Sgt Pepper's is probably a better starting point.
Led Zeppelin - All of their albums (except maybe In Through the Out Door) are realy good. I am very partial to the first two albums (I and II) from their more Bluesy era, but if you like T-shirts with dragons, then IV might be more your thing.
The Beach Boys - They were quite good, but their albums often lacked consistency, a singles compliation would be ideal to start, aloong with Pet Sounds.
The Rolling Stones - Pretty much everything they released up to and including Exile on Main Street is superb. That last album is my favourite one by them.
Cream - Another band with a superbly consistent discography, very blues influenced (actually, it's just blues), Eric Clapton with an afro and a ginger for a drummer. I am partial to Disraeli Gears, but any will probably do.
The Velvet Underground - Released 4 albums (some people insist that there is a fifth, but these people are just stupid), all superb. My favourite one is the third one "The Velvet Underground", but this isn't a very popular opinion, so i'd suggest you get them in chronological order: "The Velvet Underground and Nico"---->"White Light/White Heat"---->"The Velvet Underground"---->"Loaded" adn then the outtakes compilation "VU". Possibly one of the most important bands in the history of the 20th century.
Derek and The Dominos - Another band with Eric Clapton, released one studio album and one live one. The Studio album "Layla and other assorted love songs" is Clapton's finest in? my opinion,thanks in not a small part by Duane Allman's superb slide guitar playing. Layla is the big hit, but i think i like Bell Bottom Blues best.


I was going to do some other bands but i forgot which


Quote from: Jimmy Balls-O-Steel
And for the record, fuck "Owner of a Lonely Heart." Why? 'Cause the 80's suck.


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Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: AlexAttack on 05 Nov 2006, 21:23
well you could have the power ballads, which do get you pretty pumped-i listen to boston,journey,etc at the gym, or you could also go with some really fast uptempo hardcore like ds-13, strife, artimus pyle,fucked up,etc. i guess you have to choose between stuff thats really inspirational or stuff that will get you hyped up and a little bit agressive. its like how my mix tape starts off with boston and journey and peter cetera when i'm doing the cardio to keep me going and then when i'm doing the weights its usually hardcore stuff especially stuff with chunky breakdowns like earth crisis or avail or born against.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 05 Nov 2006, 22:09
The Aquabats!- "Look at Me (I'm a Winner!)"
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: IronOxide on 05 Nov 2006, 22:47
Guys, I have to do a Jazz solo sometime next month.  And yes.  I listen to a bit of jazz, but not enough to pick out a quality solo out of the mess.

I'd have to hear your range, but "My Funny Valentine" might be a good song for an old standard with not too bad of a range.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Nov 2006, 23:17
Cannibal Corpse - Kill.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jeph on 06 Nov 2006, 00:40
I just got the remastered Brave Murder Day by Katatonia and it is severely good!

YOB and Jesu are both extremely excellent to my ears.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: jeph on 06 Nov 2006, 01:37
You should listen to Hum!

qft
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2006, 02:17
Looking at that Motorhead best-of again

Which one? I've seen two or three different Motorhead "best ofs" in stores. I picked up "The Very Best Of...", which I think was mostly pre-1983 or so.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 06 Nov 2006, 03:10
Ensiferum- "Battle Song"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Brian Majestic on 06 Nov 2006, 03:24
Europe's "The Final Countdown". Grand fun, and not just because it popped up on Arrested Development
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 06 Nov 2006, 03:30


An example is an artist like Tom Waits, who released a bunch of albums throughout many years-Blood Money is not the same as Rain Dogs which is not the same as Closing Time. I won't (generally, there are exceptions) download songs or albums unless it's from a label or artist official site, so the "why recommend one when you can just download all of them" point is moot.

Er... i used Waits as a counter-example, since Rain Dogs runs the gamut from 'grim reapers' (Singapore) to 'grand weepers' (Downtown Train, Time).... its a perfect midpoint album.
But with stuff like Motown or Hank Williams, i'd rather pick up a cheap compilation (how can you go wrong with 40 Tempatations songs for $10?) then a non-existant 'album'

Are there any good record label compilations for stuff like metal and good hip-hop?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Brian Majestic on 06 Nov 2006, 03:31
Now when you say you like 50s pop, what do you mean by that? Pat Boone, Buddy Holly?

If it's the latter, I would heartily recommend Kaiser George and the Hi-Risers. If this is true, I will make a much more detailed list later.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 06 Nov 2006, 03:33
As for downloading... with stuff like bargain bin country and Motown and 'oldies' comps, the time i'd spend downloading 18 songs and getting some sort of context is worth more then the $2 or $10 it costs
Alot of the greatest hits have detailed linear notes... i've got one for Midnight Oil with a great bit by some famous Aussie novelist
also Greatest Hits help select the songs that are presumably the best/most well known
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Brian Majestic on 06 Nov 2006, 03:40

I have NEVER met anybody in person who claims to like punk AND likes Iggy Pop. Actually, every time I try to talk to somebody about Iggy Pop, they say 'He's old and shit'. I mention the Stooges and they ask 'What, you mean like, the three stooges?'. I ask what the best punk band of all time is. THREE people have given me this EXACT WORD FOR WORD answer. Granted, they live together so they'd have probably discussed it with eachother in the past.
"It's either the Sex Pistols or the Dead Kennedys. Probably the Pistols because they came first."

I nearly died.

Weird. Around these parts, pretty much every punk I ever met loves Iggy Pop, and finds the Sex Pistols dull and Dead Kennedys to be tops!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 06 Nov 2006, 03:43
"Sabotage" by The Beastie Boys! If you do the "WOOOOOAH" as a group it would be rad.

"Money City Maniacs" by Sloan! If you clap along with the bridge and rock out during the solo it'll work.

Pretty much anything by The Waking Eyes, but "Watch Your Money," "Move On," and "Takin' The Hard Way" especially!

Something by The New Pornographers, like "Electric Version" or "Letter From An Occupant" or "The Slow Descent Into Alcoholism" or "Sing Me Spanish Techno"!

"Cheer It On" by Tokyo Police Club! If not that, "Nature Of The Experiment!"

"Habit Over Heart" by Novillero!

Some Springsteen? "Glory Days" perhaps?

Virtually anything off of the new album by Eagles Of Death Metal, Death By Sexy. I mean this suggestion the most. This is perfect.

"Sister Jack" by Spoon!

"Heard About Your Band" by Brakes!

"E-Pro" by Beck!

"You Really Got Me" by the Kinks!

"Dugout" by Ladyhawk!

"Working Fulltime" by The Constantines!

"99 Problems" by Jay-Z! I especially suggest the Grey Album version!

"Cowbell" or "Insistor" by Tapes'n'Tapes!

"Animals Jump" by Wax Mannequin, which is conveniently available for download in the LISTEN OR DIE thread, I believe!

"Entertain" or "Rollercoaster" by Sleater-Kinney!

"Prom Night At Hater High" or "New Girl" by The Long Winters!



I hope my list helps you!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: salada on 06 Nov 2006, 04:11
Yeah.

I'm pretty sure you have to have "Sabotage" on there.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: IronOxide on 06 Nov 2006, 04:16
HEY EMILIO, I'M IN UR THREAD, REPLYING TO UR POSTS!
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: öde on 06 Nov 2006, 04:17
fuck off emilio
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Nov 2006, 05:18
These following Yes albums have my seal of approval:

Close to the Edge (a.k.a. one of the best goddamn albums EVER!!!!)
The Yes Album
Going For The One
Fragile
Relayer
(a.k.a. the album that got me into Yes)
s/t 1969 debut

And for the record, fuck "Owner of a Lonely Heart." Why? 'Cause the 80's suck. The albums I listed date from 1969 to 1977. And if you like any/all of them, maybe then will you be ready for the onslaught of pretense known as Tales From Topographic Oceans.

Also, Black Sabbath's first six records are pure guitar-driven kick-ass! (That's right, I just used "kick-ass" as a noun.)

I fully endorse this post
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Storm Rider on 06 Nov 2006, 05:42
You can tell Johnny is totally pumped up because he used a billion exclamation points.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: End If Kris on 06 Nov 2006, 05:47
Thanks guys, keep 'em comin'.

Oh, and I thought that "The FInal Countdown" by Europe and "TNT" and "Thunderstruck" (AC/DC) were required by law to be on mix cd's like this.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: AlexAttack on 06 Nov 2006, 06:36
OH! ?Good thing this was here!

Guys, I have to do a Jazz solo sometime next month. ?And yes. ?I listen to a bit of jazz, but not enough to pick out a quality solo out of the mess.

I need some sort of jazz ballad I can sing without much difficulty. ?I'm a Contralto with a relatively limited range. ?Any help would be appreciated greatly!

why don't do sing goodbye porkpie hat by charlie mingus? its a really cool ballad, quite dark. its on his ah um record. it doesn't have words on the record but there are words for it, and if you have to solo over the changes you can pretty much stay in Fm blues and maybe quote the melody a bit (i only suggest this because the changes are really all over the place and it would be too hard to keep changing for each bar).
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: lady on 06 Nov 2006, 07:05
Styx
Boston
Aerosmith
Led Zeppelin
:D
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: Johnny C on 06 Nov 2006, 07:24
'Cause the 80's suck.

Um.

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I can't emphasize it enough, people.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: *Sights* on 06 Nov 2006, 07:34
Can anyone recomend something along the lines of Jaga Jazzist? I don't know exactly what to call it...Experimental? Nu-Jazz?
You know, instrumental jazz of that sort. Not necessarily with electronic stuff or an hour of improvisation, but you get my drift...right?

Also, I know it's not the best thread to ask for this, but is there a name for that kind of music (always striked as some kind of jazz) that gets played when the plan is explained/during the stealing on heist and crime films? That soft, sly, "oh we are so cool" kind of music.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Nov 2006, 08:25
Are there any good record label compilations for stuff like metal and good hip-hop?

Most labels have samplers of some sort (Nuclear Blast have fucking tonnes of them), but I'm not sure whether I'd really recommend any of them. There's a few 'classic' metal comps, mainly for their historical value: the first 'Death...Is Just the Beginning' and 'Scandinavian Metal Attack' instantly spring to mind, but they mainly concentrate on promoting newer artists, and, to be honest, I can't really think of many metal labels that have a stable strong enough to fill a whole CD with great tracks. Some of Nuclear Blasts comps are OK, but I wouldn't really recommend any of them. Spinefarm/Spikefarm have a few decent samplers. A lot of compilations labels release are cover albums though: a tribute to this, that or the other (In Black Marks case, on 'A Black Mark Tribute' vols 1 and 2 a tribute to whatever the fuck the bands wanted, with some pretty interesting results: Depeche Mode, The Police, Cream, The Beatles, Autopsy, Twisted Sister and the Sex Pistols all make appearances, some of them several times). Some of these compilations are pure dreck, some of them are pretty good (A Tribute to the Beast is quite fab), but they're not really that good for finding out what bands actually sound like, because they're not playing their own songs. Fenriz has released a rather good intro to true BM: 'Fenriz Presents...The Best of Old School Black Metal' on Peaceville, and I believe he's threatening to release a thrash compilation at some point as well. I'd actually recommend that for two reasons: one, it's got some quite unusual tracks (both in terms of obscurity and seeing them on a compilation. Fenriz is probably the only man alive who could have got permission to include Burzum's 'Ea, Lord of the Depths') and two, the liner notes are fucking hilarious. Fenriz spends half the time unnecessarily bolding words like this and the rest of the time bragging about how he got this demo of off Euronymus three days after Dead shot himself or that he actually rehearsed this track with Varg Vikernes one time etc. etc.

Really though, what you need to get you in to metal is just some good albums. What sort of stuff were you thinking of? You want something more listenable, or something more interesting?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 06 Nov 2006, 09:20
I'm thinking listenable.
Bonus points for music that convinces me to go back to playing Dungeons and Dragons. Seriously.
So... listenable (like i said, i like Led Zep and Black Sabbath, so i'm not allergic to guitars) or hilarious/interesting songs about pirates and vikings.
The Decemberists and the Fiery Furnaces sing about pirates, but they are not metal

i've been reading that book about the metal church burnings and i'm confused... how do you go from "i'm going to name myself after the Orcish word for 'darkness' to 'and then kill my friend?'"
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Nov 2006, 11:51
Varg called himself Grishnack and named his band Burzum as a gesture to his own interpretation of Lord of the Rings, which is a slight twist on the 'misunderstood Mordor' idea, and ties in with his Nazi beliefs. Basically, Varg thinks the orcs drew from the idea of Scandinavian pagans and that Tolkien was writing about the victory of Christianity over heathenism. So, he used orcish as a little reference to that idea. Plus, there's the nice element of a 'secret', if you get what it means. Finally, it's a fucking cool word and it somehow greatly increases the profoundity of the statement: calling a band 'Darkness', as we all by now know, is ridiculous. It's too naive. 'Burzum' has a darker, more powerful ring to it as a word, and the act of translation somehow distances it from being silly. Because it is a profound mission statement if you actually go and try and do it. Nothing to do with Varg was a joke.

The idea of Sauron and co as maybe the good guys isn't unique to Burzum incidentally, there's a fantastic Running Wild song with a similiar idea and lots of killer broken English:

"A shoal of the knights of torture
Are hunting a witch to the dell
Sullen shades are raiding their squad
Church's minions fell
A black knight leads through the mire
And in Mordor she finds a new life
A life without pain and torment
No murder, no lies

Rancour, against all raiders
Beware, if you're renegade's hunter
Watch out in slough's haze
Vigilance, 'cause death waits
Recourse, to the traced
Be calm, they'll give you shelter
Restless, they fight for freedom
Never, they don't let you fall

Mordor"

(Running Wild-Mordor)

Running Wild might be a good place to start. Roughly 95% of their songs are about pirates. You'll probably want to start with the albums 'Under Jolly Roger' and 'Death or Glory', possibly the live 'Ready for Boarding' as well. I also can't see you getting away without getting 'Advance and Vanquish' by 3 Inches of Blood: it pushes serious metal as close to the descent into Spinal Tap as possible without actually crossing over, and it is simply a bitch of an album: I don't see how it is possible to dislike tracks like 'Axes of Evil', 'Deadly Sinners', 'Destroy the Orcs' and 'Fear on the Bridge'.  Other things you may want to check out:

Candlemass - 'Epicus Doomicus Metallicus'
Cathedral - 'The Carnival Bizarre'
Danzig - 'Danzig' and 'Danzig II: Lucifuge'
Iron Maiden - 'Number of the Beast',  'Powerslave', 'Seventh Son of a Seventh Son' (probably the poppiest metal album that is really any good)
Judas Priest - 'British Steel' and 'Painkiller'
King Diamond - 'Abigail', 'The Graveyard', 'House of God'
Mercyful Fate - 'Melissa' and 'Don't Break the Oath' (these are often called Black Metal, but thats really only for the image and subject matter)
Nightwish - 'Angels Fall First'
Skyclad - 'The Answer Machine?', 'Folkemon', 'Irrational Anthems'
Therion - 'Theli', 'Lemuria', 'Vovin'

Nice varied selection completely off the top of my head. Should keep you going for a bit.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 06 Nov 2006, 12:10
If you want Poppy metal how can you forget Helloween. The first two parts of Keeper of the Seven Keys pretty much defined poppy metal.

As for Black Metal Compilations, I owned a copy of "Nordic Metal: A tribute to Eurynomous". I lost it a while ago... It had some really good tracks on it too. Dissection's cover  of "Elizabeth Bathori" is one of the best songs they ever did IMO. The Thorn's song "Aerie Descent" is an absolute classic. Even the Mayhem tracks on it are half descent. I'd reccomend it if you were going t o buy a compilation album.

Incidently enough Varg's first band was called "Uruk Hai", also from LOTR.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Eyeball Kid on 06 Nov 2006, 13:05
Varg called himself Grishnack and named his band Burzum as a gesture to his own interpretation of Lord of the Rings, which is a slight twist on the 'misunderstood Mordor' idea, and ties in with his Nazi beliefs. Basically, Varg thinks the orcs drew from the idea of Scandinavian pagans and that Tolkien was writing about the victory of Christianity over heathenism. So, he used orcish as a little reference to that idea. Plus, there's the nice element of a 'secret', if you get what it means. Finally, it's a fucking cool word and it somehow greatly increases the profoundity of the statement: calling a band 'Darkness', as we all by now know, is ridiculous. It's too naive. 'Burzum' has a darker, more powerful ring to it as a word, and the act of translation somehow distances it from being silly. Because it is a profound mission statement if you actually go and try and do it. Nothing to do with Varg was a joke.

http://www.davidbrin.com/tolkienarticle1.html - overlly serious, much forwarded essay on the same topic
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 06 Nov 2006, 16:21
In my teenage interpretation I pretty much saw the Hobbits as children or simply boring. The dwarves reminded me too much of greedy capitalist-pigs and they too were pretty boring. Their runes were cool and Moria was a wonderful place, but I disliked their greed vehemently - and who wants to be short anyhow? The elves were fascinating, beautiful and especially their immortality and closeness to nature was cool, but they were kind of dull and they fought for the wrong side. Instead I felt a natural attraction to Sauron, who was the person who gave the world adventure, adversity and challenges in the first place. His One Eye, the One Ring and the tower of Barad-Dur are all attributes similar to those of ??inn. The One Eye was like ??inn's eye, the One Ring was like ??inn's ring, Draupnir ("Dripper"), and Barad-Dur was like the tower or throne of ??inn, called Hli?skj?lf ("Secret Ritual-Site"). His Uruk-Hai and Olog-Hai ("Troll-Race") were like Viking berserkers, the Warges were like ??innic werewolves, and so forth. I could easily identify with the fury of the "dark forces", and enjoyed their existence very much because they were making a boring and peaceful world dangerous and exciting.

Varg's words on LOTR, the whole "Burzum story" is quite an interesting read, regardless of wether you think Varg is a dick or not...
http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/a_burzum_story01.shtml
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: muffy on 06 Nov 2006, 16:35
Prodigy, Underworld and Orbital seconded, and for newer stuff...
Klaxons
Datarock
Shitdisco

and most DFA stuff.
And Felix Da Housecat.

Though this is starting to move away from Rave and more into electro...
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Misereatur on 06 Nov 2006, 17:09
I think you should get Miles Davis - Bithch's Brew and In a Silent Way.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: öde on 06 Nov 2006, 17:45
Astral Projection and Holymen would help. Maybe some Cosmic Gate.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 06 Nov 2006, 17:55
Also, I know it's not the best thread to ask for this, but is there a name for that kind of music (always striked as some kind of jazz) that gets played when the plan is explained/during the stealing on heist and crime films? That soft, sly, "oh we are so cool" kind of music.

I'm pretty sure it's just slow swing and jazz type stuff, I suggest Charlie Mingus' Ah Um record if you want that kind of spy music. It probably isn't anything significant, just sounds good for plotting. The Alastair Spence Trio has some stuff like that too
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: The Mighty Mopdecai on 06 Nov 2006, 18:30
Well I believe that the guys who said that buying greatest hits collections is an idiot I bought the best of The Smiths yesterday and it is a superb CD.
I recommend some good new British rock - Nine Black Alps and Brigade
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Nov 2006, 20:33
http://www.davidbrin.com/tolkienarticle1.html - overlly serious, much forwarded essay on the same topic

Read it. I don't agree with Brin or Varg, for quite crucial reasons. Brin I don't agree with mainly because of his very simplistic, linear-progressive view of history. MOAR SCIENCE LOL.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: Misereatur on 07 Nov 2006, 00:14
I second Mingus Ah Um.
Title: Re: Jazz - Help?
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 07 Nov 2006, 03:14
I don't know who exactly this is going out to... but check out Modern Jazz Quartet... they are killer.
Title: Re: I need some new Classic Rock (or similar music)
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 07 Nov 2006, 03:16
Jefferson Airplaaaaaaaaane.
Or maybe not...

P.S. Zep is a great place to start.  The drums in Moby Dick are killer-- primarily because the song is mostly a drum solo.  Yeah!
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Yossarian on 07 Nov 2006, 03:18
Re: Pregame-pumpup-music (started by End of Kris)

"Firestarter" by Prodigy works pretty well for me... and "Ready to go" by Republica (does anybody remember them?)... and "Breakout" by the Foo Fighters is fun.
About ten years ago we used to listen to a lot of H-Blockx in order to get pumped up for a game (though not of hockey actually), esp. "Revolution", "Fight the Force", "Time to Fight", "Move"(!) and "Risin' High"(!!) all from their '94 d?but "Time to Move" - anybody an idea, of whom I'm talking? :| (maybe some grown-up snowboarders since, like the "Guano Apes", they were for some time pretty huge in that scene)

Yoss
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: strawberry_gashes on 07 Nov 2006, 03:19
Between the Buried and Me aren't metal. Not even something you can have a 'what is emo?' argument about. Not metal. Nuh. Nuh-uh-uh. Elements of metal? Yes. Metal? No.

That works.

P.S. Tommydski, why do you not like DH?  Just wondering.
(Every other one od those bands really should not be allowed to play, however.)
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: raf on 07 Nov 2006, 04:05
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Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Nov 2006, 02:39
Go wank a fish.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Nov 2006, 20:42
Okay recommending people. I've recently got into Refused and Black Flag - the obvious albums, that is, i.e. Shape Of Punk... and Damaged.

Are the other albums by these bands any good, and worth buying?

And furthermore, is there any good hardcore that you can recommend me along similar lines?
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: the-artful-dodger-rodger on 12 Nov 2006, 01:41
hey recommend some rockabilly? thanks
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 13 Nov 2006, 02:40
I want an album to get me started wth dark ambient.  Have at it Khar.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 13 Nov 2006, 02:53
This thread has become infinitely harder to follow.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 13 Nov 2006, 05:20
I want an album to get me started wth dark ambient.  Have at it Khar.

Blood Axis - The Gospel of Inhumanity
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: Scytale on 14 Nov 2006, 11:39
I don't know what Dark Ambient is, is it different to Darkwave?

If not then I like a lot of Protector's side projects, stuff like "Ice Ages" and especially "Die Verbannten Kinder Evas", The new album "Dusk and Void Became Alive" is supposed to be very good, it a bastard to get a hold of though.

Mortiis's "Crypt of the Wizard" is really good as well, don't know if it counts as electronica or ambient.

Reverend Kris Hades' two albums "Wind of Orion" and "Paganini, Bloodlust, Static Age" are worth a listen if you can track them down. A lot of people call it Post BM, but soundit sounds very ambient to me, mostly loops, feedback and weird effects,  with blastbeats and tremello riffs burried a fair way into the background, the atmosphere is absolutely frightening, when he plays live he has a giant projector displaying all this really disturbing images to go with the music, one of the most intense live performances I've seen.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: !!!CPAOI!!! on 15 Nov 2006, 09:43
Hey Khar, I heard that the latest Ulver albums are experimental electronic stuff in the vein of dark ambient music.  Is the stuff any good?  I like Ulver but I only know their BM.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: amok on 15 Nov 2006, 18:56
I don't know what Dark Ambient is, is it different to Darkwave?

Darkwave is a catch-all term for anything electronic and also kinda gothic these days. If it used to have a more concrete definition it got lost along the way.

Cruxshadows are pretty much the most famous example of 'Darkwave' around. Mortiis would also fit in there. And The Frozen Autumn are worth a listen.

Dark Ambient is, well, Ambient music that's dark. I'm quite partial to 'Epiphany/Fortunate' by Caul.
Title: Re: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 16 Nov 2006, 03:52
if you want darkwave its gotta be Sopor Aeternus and Lacrimoda