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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Jillybean on 16 Nov 2006, 19:17
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You know how when you hear one or two songs off an album and you think it's going to be the best album ever so you rush out to buy it and when you listen to it you realise that the rest of the album is shit.
I hate that.
I think the last time I did that, it was Orson's album. 'No Tomorrow' and 'Bright Idea' really sold them for me, and I heard a lot of hype about their album. When I actually listened to it I was crushed at how forgettable the rest of it is. I maintain that those are two very good songs, but the album is awful.
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And thats how i justify getting near-whole albumns off p2p networks before buying them !
Hence, i've never done that myself.... YET.
But i'll end up doing in someday im sure... And i'll report.
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I have occasional flashes of conscience . . . which proves the p2p is the way to go!!!
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The new Dresden Dolls was kind of disappointing for me. I've talked about it on the "What Are You Listening To?" thread before; other than a couple gems, the songs just feel kind of sluggish. Amanda Palmer had SO much vitriol coming out of her music in the self-titled album, but in Yes, Virginia it just seems kind of tame. I still like the album overall, but it was nowhere near what I had expected it to be.
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St. Anger, obviously. Good god. I can't believe I paid monies for that.
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Oh, sush. St Anger is a good album.
I have done this. Notably Shivaree's " I Oughtta Give You A Shot In The Head For Making Me Live In This Dump". Everything is so right about them ... the look, the name of the singer, Ambrosia Parsley, THAT single, Goodnight moon ... but the rest of that album ... is ... not as good.
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Changed.
Thanks.
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St. Anger, obviously. Good god. I can't believe I paid monies for that.
slow learner :evil:
I always let myself get overly let-down when a bands sophmore effort isn't up to snuff. Intellectually I understand all the factors working against them, yet I let myself be drawn in everytime. Most recent example I can think of: "The New Romance" by Pretty Girls Make Graves.
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The Cure's "Disinigration", Joy Division's "Substance", Corkscrew's albums in general, Jasemine Star or whatever that was called.
As I can recall from flipping through my CD-collection.
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The Cure's "Disinigration", Joy Division's "Substance",
two albums I throughly enjoy.
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I heard "Fire It Up" by Black Label Society on Guitar Hero and thought "That song is kind of neat."
Bought the album with it. Whoops. That was a mistake.
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The Cure's "Disinigration", Joy Division's "Substance",
two albums I throughly enjoy.
Seconded.
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I'm split down the middle. I too love Disintegration, but I'm thoroughly unable to understand the appeal of Joy Division.
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Joy Division's "Substance".
I could go into a spiel about the fact that if this was your first Joy Division purchase that was unwise, as it's a collection of b-sides, twelve inches, EPs, etc. not an album and so isn't a good introduction to the band.
But, instead...fuck you, you're wrong. Fuck you.
As far as biggest disappointment, I'm going to say the most recent Mars Volta album. Frances The Mute was a masterpiece. I didn't expect it to be as good as that, or anywhere near. But I expected it to be worth listening to, for fuck's sake.
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I'll agree with you that it's not as good as Frances The Mute was, but I wasn't so disappointed in it that it was unlistenable. Probably not going to be making my year-end top 10 list though...
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I'll agree with you that it's not as good as Frances The Mute was, but I wasn't so disappointed in it that it was unlistenable.? Probably not going to be making my year-end top 10 list though...
I didn't say it was unlistenable, I said it wasn't worth listening to.
Also, I'm going to add Left by Hope of the States to this list. Their first album is one of my favourite albums ever. The second one is wank.
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'Tim' by the Replacements.
I cannot think of a single way in which a band's magnum opus could be mightier than this one. It is a superb record, and as such I'm just going to say Dig Me Out by Sleater-Kinney to see what you're going to do about it.
Huh?
HUH
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Saves The Day - Stay What You Are
I heard 'Say You'll Never Leave', thought it was awesome and got given this album instead, which is utter gash. But I didn't part with money for it.
Also, Tapes n' Tapes. Insistor is one of my favourite songs of this year, and yet the rest of the album is so very very dead. Even Cowbell isn't that great...but again, I didn't pay for it, so can't feel too ripped off.
And Bright Eyes - A collection of songs...
The guy in my local record shop actually refused to order it in on the basis of its inherent terribleness, but being the occasional completist I am, insisted on buying it at a later date. And then sold it a fortnight later.
But then, for every bit of crap I've got, I've found something brilliant enough to negate it.
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When I think of the two albums that I was more disappointed than any others, they would have to be:
The Third Album - Big Star
Pressure Chief - Cake
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But then, for every bit of crap I've got, I've found something brilliant enough to negate it.
The advantage of having a large collection :) Actually, another one that I was really disappointed in (I don't expect anyone to know this one) was MacUmba. I'd borrowed it from someone who loves them, they're a celtic/reggae band, and she'd let me listen to one track which was brilliant. The album itself was just more of the same. I'd wanted a lot more originality from it. In saying that, the Feeling's album is a huge grower on me, I just listened to it all when I was exercising and it impressed me. I hadn't really liked it that much the first time I listened to it.
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The Cure's "Disinigration", Joy Division's "Substance",
two albums I throughly enjoy.
Seconded.
You know what's disappointing? That no one bothered the spell Disintegration correctly. And I cannot think of one thing that was disappointing this album. On another note, Black Cherry by Goldfrapp, So, How's Your Girl by Handsome Boy Modeling School, Death Cab's Plans, Rilo Kiley's More Adventurous, Tortoise's TNT & Talib Kweli's The Beautiful Struggle all kind of let me down. There have been more, but I can't really think of them right now...
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I loved Plans!
But agreed on Rilo Kiley - that album was terrible in comparison to their other stuff - I blame the move from an independant label to a major, which kind of said - 'ok, twee's cute, but your singer's cuter, lets create an indie Christina Aguilera so that the boys will rush out, buy the album and a box of tissues'...
I'm not normally a fascist about major labels, I tend to think it benefits more bands than it hinders, but
a) I'm a saddle creek fetishist and
b) they took all the personality out of that album.
Another disappointing album was Mansun's Little Kix - they did Six, which was all brilliant proggy goodness and shat over the dying embers of Britpop, and then created a follow up consisting of MOR, radio friendly bilge that would make even Richard Ashcroft yawn.
It was a long time ago, but I still feel cheated, damnit!
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Oh, sush. St Anger is a good album.
St. Anger is mediocre-good, but better than Reload which is mediocre.
Like many peoples have said I p2p albums before I buy so Im yet to be dissapointed. :)
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St. Anger is fucking terrible guys, I dunno where the hell this is coming from.
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St. Anger is good, for a record that sounds like it was written and recorded entirely up Metallica's collective asshole.
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I don't get the hate for Plans, especially those who go on about how the switch to a major ruined Death Cab. Sure, it's not as good as Something About Airplanes or Transatlanticism, but it really sounds like standard Death Cab.
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() by Sigur R?s.
I bought ?g?tis Byrjun totally on a whim without ever hearing a song and it was the most awe inspiring music I had heard since a similar experience with GY!BE. After that I guess that () couldn't help but be a let down but the album itself is depressing.
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() is one massive fucking downer, but that doesn't mean it's bad necessarily.
I know most people will think I'm some pop-loving moron for saying it, but I still prefer Takk... to any Sigur Ros I've heard.
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The guy in my local record shop actually refused to order it in on the basis of its inherent terribleness, but being the occasional completist I am, insisted on buying it at a later date. And then sold it a fortnight later.
What kind of shit-cunt wanker would refuse to order you a record just because he thought it was bad? Never shop there again, he and his whole damn family deserve to starve, the cunt.
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The guy in my local record shop actually refused to order it in on the basis of its inherent terribleness, but being the occasional completist I am, insisted on buying it at a later date.? And then sold it a fortnight later.
What kind of shit-cunt wanker would refuse to order you a record just because he thought it was bad? Never shop there again, he and his whole damn family deserve to starve, the cunt.
Indeed.
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Apoptygma Berzerk - You And Me Against The World
What the fuck did they smoke that convinced them that dropped their tried-and-tested genre-defining synthpop sound in favour of some shitty Stereophonies/Killers-lite bullshit and hiring the guirarist from Korn were good ideas? :cry:
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The guy in my local record shop actually refused to order it in on the basis of its inherent terribleness, but being the occasional completist I am, insisted on buying it at a later date.? And then sold it a fortnight later.
What kind of shit-cunt wanker would refuse to order you a record just because he thought it was bad? Never shop there again, he and his whole damn family deserve to starve, the cunt.
I forgave him when he recommended me an Azure Ray gig as a better alternative for my money...
And then accidentally slated his shop for being full of muso snobs for an NME article.
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Sometimes I buy a record think its really shit and then fall in love with it years later, Anathema's "A Fine Day TO Exit" was like that.
As for most recent disspointing album:
"Operation Mindcrime 2" by Queensryche. I love the original Op Mindcrime and I was hoping so much the sequel would live up to the originals legacy. There are a couple of good songs on there, I like the first 4 or 5 tracks a lot, but it's missing the huge songs the original had to close it off theres no "I Don't Believe in Love" or "Eyes of a Stranger". It's still the best thing Queensryche have put out in about 10 years though :lol:
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Hmm...I thought the new Arcturus was one of the more disappointing records in a long long time.
On "St. Anger", I just heard 3/4th's of the record the other day, and I have to say it was easily one of the worst records I've ever heard in my life.
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However bad Mindcrime 2 might or might not be ... it's still Mindcrime 2. And therefore awesome. I'll stick to that.
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St. Anger is fucking terrible guys, I dunno where the hell this is coming from.
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Oh, sush. St Anger is a good album.
Or, you know ... we could let it go.
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However bad Mindcrime 2 might or might not be ... it's still Mindcrime 2. And therefor awesome. I'll stick to that.
i'm going to go with beo for once on this mindcrime 2 is brilliant and once they cut out all the crap stuff (and they do do this live) it works alot better
also i have to say there's nothing like the feeling of 40,000 people simultaneously shouting live s+m song to set the mood
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I listened to St. Anger ONCE.
NEVER AGAIN.
This is saying something, because I have sat through countless spinnings of each Godsmack record and I can't sit through that.
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I was talking about this on Gabbly last night
but, basically, after all the hubub about St. Anger, I realized I couldn't even remember what it sounded like. So I went and downloaded it.
BIGGEST MISTAKE EVAR
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Hey, don't worry. I'll come visit your mangled ears in the hospital.
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are the ears all that remained after his brain liquified?
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St. Anger is fucking terrible guys, I dunno where the hell this is coming from.
Also, the Shout Out Louds album, was pretty bad. I heard The Comeback and expected gold, and found out that the only song above mediocre was in fact The Comeback.
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Never Ever and Please Please Please weren't that bad, even if the latter was a total Smiths rip...
but yeah, the rest was a bit weak.
It even made it onto the O.C soundtrack...
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I'm downloading St. Anger. Expect a track-by-track review.
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Johnny, because of you, Lars Ulrich is going to have to sell his house. You should be ashamed.
NAPSTER BAD! MONEY GOOD!
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You know what disappointed me? Fucking Sufjan Stevens. Everyone I know went on and on about how awesome he was, and how much I'd like him...and he seemed the type that generally I might like....but so not true. Boring as all hell. Best album of 2005 my ass.
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Amputechture by The Mars Volta is pretty much a one trick pony, and the last song is hardly worthy of being an album ender.
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I'm downloading St. Anger. Expect a track-by-track review.
you miserable bastard.
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I'm only miserable in that I listened to it all the way through, wrote the review and watched this damn forumbox eat my post.
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I'm gonna go with Cradle of Filth's new album. I love this band and have most of their albums and I even didn't mind Nymphetamine. I mean it wasn't their best album but it was ok. But the new one? I haven't even heard that many songs off it and I know to avoid it like the plague. I mean guest vocals by the jerk from HIM? How far they have fallen...
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I'm only miserable in that I listened to it all the way through, wrote the review and watched this damn forumbox eat my post.
Internet Superhero Protip: Write out long posts in Notepad first :wink:
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Or use firefox.
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I was extremely dissapointed in The Killer's new album, Sam's Town. Not really a song I like on the whole thing, and I seriously enjoyed Hot Fuss.
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Apoptygma Berzerk - You And Me Against The World
What the fuck did they smoke that convinced them that dropped their tried-and-tested genre-defining synthpop sound in favour of some shitty Stereophonies/Killers-lite bullshit and hiring the guirarist from Korn were good ideas?? :cry:
Cool avatar. Ghibli = cool.
Anyway, Kid A or Amnesia. What. The. Fuck.
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Amputechture by The Mars Volta is pretty much a one trick pony, and the last song is hardly worthy of being an album ender.
The last song is hardly worth of anything. There's maybe two tracks on there which are worth listening to in places.
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prize fighter inferno.
theres a few good tracks, but that dance electronic drum machine bullshit gives me an aneurysm
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Amputechture by The Mars Volta is pretty much a one trick pony, and the last song is hardly worthy of being an album ender.
The last song is hardly worth of anything. There's maybe two tracks on there which are worth listening to in places.
As much as I wanted to like it, I couldn't. It's just not that good. There are certainly parts of songs that I like, but I usually can't listen to any of the songs on that album all the way through. I mean, if you're completely blazed the album probably sounds alright, but otherwise, nah.
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Amputechture by The Mars Volta is pretty much a one trick pony, and the last song is hardly worthy of being an album ender.
The last song is hardly worth of anything. There's maybe two tracks on there which are worth listening to in places.
As much as I wanted to like it, I couldn't.? It's just not that good.? There are certainly parts of songs that I like, but I usually can't listen to any of the songs on that album all the way through.? I mean, if you're completely blazed the album probably sounds alright, but otherwise, nah.
That's the thing. None of the songs are great all the way through. Even the songs with wanky bits on before, the wanky bits were far outweighed by the proper music. Here is' about a 9:1 ratio of shit to good.
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I can see why Jon Theodore left them.
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Oh yeah, because he left after playing on that album didn't he? Bahaha. 'Cedric, you've gone bullshit wacko.'
Have you read the uncyclopedia entry on them? It's pretty funny.
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Well, Jon's a nice guy.
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I'm gonna go with Cradle of Filth's new album. I love this band and have most of their albums and I even didn't mind Nymphetamine. I mean it wasn't their best album but it was ok. But the new one? I haven't even heard that many songs off it and I know to avoid it like the plague. I mean guest vocals by the jerk from HIM? How far they have fallen...
Disagree strongly.
The Foetus of a new day kicking alone is worth the effort of the purchase. But there's much more on there worthy of note. Really. Trust me.
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Oh, sush. St Anger is a good album.
No, I don't I will trust you, thanks.
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I was extremely dissapointed in The Killer's new album, Sam's Town. Not really a song I like on the whole thing, and I seriously enjoyed Hot Fuss.
I lost hope in the notion that the follow up would be half decent after listening to Brandon Flowers going on about Bruce Springsteen (why the hell do bands have to 'do a springsteen'? It's like some benchmark of faux maturity or something and it's quite frankly tedious), but even then, when I listened to it, I felt a resounding 'meh' tremble through my entire being.
And I did like Hot Fuss, in parts.
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Sam's Town is terrible. Flowers can claim he is going for Springsteen but it comes of like bad (worse) Meatloaf. Has anyone listened to the chorus of Bones?
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Didn't he say something retarded to the effect that their new album was one of the best in the last 20 years or something? I think I recall hearing something to that effect.
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Didn't he say something retarded to the effect that their new album was one of the best in the last 20 years or something? I think I recall hearing something to that effect.
That's nothing. The guitarist from Kasabian said something like 'I think we've truly made a classic album that people are going to be talking about for the next 50 years.'
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Sam's Town is terrible. Flowers can claim he is going for Springsteen but it comes of like bad (worse) Meatloaf. Has anyone listened to the chorus of Bones?
I don't think anyone should even be talking about The Killers like they have ever released quality material.
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Man whatever the hell happened to modesty? It did get assaulted and left dismembered by a ditch?
Dig Me Out is definitely not the best Sleater-Kinney album, but I still dig the heck out of it (punpun :P). Sigh. Words and Guitar!
I totally agree with whoever said that The Dresden Doll's Yes, Virgina was disappointing. I think I only listened to it twice and didn't bother with it again. Oh well, sophomore slump!
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Four Cornered Night by Jets to Brazil
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... The guitarist from Kasabian said something like 'I think we've truly made a classic album that people are going to be talking about for the next 50 years.'
A snippet of converation from 50 years into the future:
"Oh my god - I was just looking through my dad's record collection, and found this record by a band called Kasabian, so I played it, thinking my dad had quite cool music taste, and seriously man, it's fucking terrible. Those must have been hard times for music if a band like that could sell records. Plus, I think I must have been adopted."
Maybe Kasabian dude had a point.
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I'm gonna go with Cradle of Filth's new album. I love this band and have most of their albums and I even didn't mind Nymphetamine. I mean it wasn't their best album but it was ok. But the new one? I haven't even heard that many songs off it and I know to avoid it like the plague. I mean guest vocals by the jerk from HIM? How far they have fallen...
Disagree strongly.
The Foetus of a new day kicking alone is worth the effort of the purchase. But there's much more on there worthy of note. Really. Trust me.
Well tiny puppy, chances are because I love Cradle so damn much I'm probably gonna buy it anyway, praying all the while that I'm wrong and it is actually good. And if it isn't, I'm coming after you. Like a fucking pottery wheel, you dig?
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Shudder To Think - Funeral At the Movies/Ten Spot. Why, Dischord, why? Why unleash such bland mediocrity under your usually so excellent name?
The Get Up Kids - On A Wire. What a good idea, to replace amazing pop songs with bland MOR shite. Morons.
Bilge Pump - Let Me Breathe. This should be amazing, but somehow they managed to make it just average. I think it's mostly the production but I still wonder how that manages to have such a profound effect on what really are fantastic songs live.
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I'm gonna go with Cradle of Filth's new album. I love this band and have most of their albums and I even didn't mind Nymphetamine. I mean it wasn't their best album but it was ok. But the new one? I haven't even heard that many songs off it and I know to avoid it like the plague. I mean guest vocals by the jerk from HIM? How far they have fallen...
Disagree strongly.
The Foetus of a new day kicking alone is worth the effort of the purchase. But there's much more on there worthy of note. Really. Trust me.
Well tiny puppy, chances are because I love Cradle so damn much I'm probably gonna buy it anyway, praying all the while that I'm wrong and it is actually good. And if it isn't, I'm coming after you. Like a fucking pottery wheel, you dig?
.... like a pottery wheel ...
Meant to be kicked round? Squidy? Dressed in mud? As a prop in 'ghost'?
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Bloc Party- Silent Alarm. 99% of the time I listen to an album that gets ridiculous hype and THEN I go buy it, but for whatever reason I took a gamble on this one. I don't hate it, but yet I don't really like it. I realize they added some tracks unto the American version, but it feels overlong and mediocre to me.
Boards of Canada- The Campfire Headphase. I love love love BOC, and had high hopes that they might change up the formula on this one and still be as great as ever. It's not saying much when I admit that this is my least favorite BOC album since I still like it, but it's just sort of 'meh' compared to everything else they've done.
Pixies- Bossanova. I know one or two people who swear by Bossanova, but it's always struck me as their weakest album by far. Yes, I even like Trompe Le Monde more.
Sigur Ros- (). I know this has been mentioned before, but I heartily agree. I was riding on a wave of Sigur Ros exhilaration when I bought this album a day after it came out. I like it more nowadays, but for the past however many years it's been out, I've hardly listened to it. It's way too long and repetitive, and almost singlehandedly killed my desire to want to buy any of their other stuff. Turns out I just picked the wrong album to get into them with...
Sleater-Kinney- One Beat. Not a bad album by any means, but I like all their other stuff so much better. The Hot Rock is so powerful to me that it makes me smile and cry at the same time.
Wire- Chairs Missing. I think I am a freak because I do not love this album. I love Pink Flag, but this one just doesn't do it for me. I feel like broken record, but: not bad, I just like their other stuff better.
Yo La Tengo- Summer Sun. If you took And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out, made it *feel* longer, mellowed out all of Yo La Tengo's noisy edges, and released it between two vastly superior albums (And Then Nothing and I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass), then you'd have Summer Sun. Granted I haven't heard anything pre-Painful, but it's my least favorite Yo La Tengo album.
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Bloc Party- Silent Alarm. 99% of the time I listen to an album that gets ridiculous hype and THEN I go buy it, but for whatever reason I took a gamble on this one. I don't hate it, but yet I don't really like it. I realize they added some tracks unto the American version, but it feels overlong and mediocre to me.
That album has classic pop-record syndrome; a handful of great singles, maybe a couple of good album tracks, the rest utter filler and wank.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank.
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Four Cornered Night by Jets to Brazil
Don't think I've listened to this the whole way through but the first track is awesome.
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Do you remember the songs that Rowlf sang on the Muppet show?
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Joy Division's "Substance".
I could go into a spiel about the fact that if this was your first Joy Division purchase that was unwise, as it's a collection of b-sides, twelve inches, EPs, etc. not an album and so isn't a good introduction to the band.
But, instead...fuck you, you're wrong. Fuck you.
As far as biggest disappointment, I'm going to say the most recent Mars Volta album. Frances The Mute was a masterpiece. I didn't expect it to be as good as that, or anywhere near. But I expected it to be worth listening to, for fuck's sake.
I know, I know. I'm willing the band another try (and there WERE goods songs on it, but the majority was boring) but it's not on the top of my agenda right now.
And seriously, most everyone gets pissed off when I say Disintegration was seriously fucking boring? It had a few good songs on it, but I can't listen to it all the way through. And cripies, it's not like I can't take depressing music.
And since someone mentioned Kasabian: yeah, their first album is pretty damned disappointing. I was actually LESS disappointed by their second album (yes, I bought it. What are you going to do about it) because I was expecting it to be total crap. I never said that anything I did made sense.